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obadiah777: i been saying this shytt for ages folks said i was mad. soon as a white man says something similar, idiots like CRAZYMAN start praising him. thats that inferiority complex.

Ubenedictus: i dont celebrate the day, i celebrate his birth. im celebrating that my savior is born, im telling the world that im not a jew who is still expecting the messiah, nor a gentile who doesn't know the mesiah, the wall of partition has been broken in christ Jesus and im very happy that he was born. Imagine the marvel God unleashed on the world thru the birth of christ. The began a new creation, why cant a jehova witness celebrate that? Why?

her birth is celebrated on sept 8. ha! Jehova witness, i dont celebrate d day, i celebrate a reality. A simple reality that christ was born.

Ubenedictus: i dont celebrate the day, i celebrate his birth. im celebrating that my savior is born, im telling the world that im not a jew who is still expecting the messiah, nor a gentile who doesn't know the mesiah, the wall of partition has been broken in christ Jesus and im very happy that he was born. Imagine the marvel God unleashed on the world thru the birth of christ. The began a new creation, why cant a jehova witness celebrate that? Why?

her birth is celebrated on sept 8. ha! Jehova witness, i dont celebrate d day, i celebrate a reality. A simple reality that christ was born.

Goshen360: @ Ijawkid and truthislight,

I beg of you guys as my brothers in the Lord......what you don't know is beyond you. I will no longer be part of this argument if you guys are taking side with frosbel to say the Holy Spirit is NOT a distinct being BUT a force or enabling power to believers from God. If this is your conviction, it will be hard for me to deal with this since we are NOT on the same page. This is the whole essence of this argument - you guys believe like some Christian sect, that the Holy Spirit is NOT a distinct being but a FORCE.

I do not intend to do a repetitive job here as a brother had clearly dealt with this issue of Holy Spirit being a force or a distinct being. You can read here: https://www.nairaland.com/1038318/34-reasons-why-holy-spirit/2.

I intend to give you guys more scriptures to prove the Holy Spirit is also God BUT since I realize the contention is that you have believed and bent on the Holy Spirit being a FORCE or DIVINE POWER, not a distinct being, then I don't think I want to go further as I do not have more strength for this argument anymore.

MyJoe: @Image123
How is you doing?

The man has quoted many verses demonstrating new earth. Why are you dismissing them with one Corrinthians? What happens to the New Earth?

k2039: The problem is that most people are using the word God to refer to the Father which is wrong.That was what I said

Goshen360: You have asked this kweshion many times in the past. If you ask me, na who I go ask......You do not expect to see the Holy Spirit when it is written,

But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. John 16:7 NIV.

The Holy Spirit is operating in the lives of believers on earth today being possessed in their regenerated spirits. This is the Spirit that indwells a mortal man to show or reveal the visions you talked about. Now, if this Spirit indwells the above mentioned believers, do you expect the same Holy Spirit to show/reveal Himself while He indwells this believers

If you ask me na who I go ask.....O ya, ask the audience....

Goshen360: .....because I be Africa man, original....I no be gentle man at all o

Ubenedictus: Now you are funny, what a joke. The bible show people of God making images like the cherubim and it was put in their worship place and they bowed before the ark, you have no problem with that yet you go all red when catholic us image, hypocrisy.

Ubenedictus: that is becos your sole interest is in asking which day is the day? The important thing is remembering that the my savior is born. Go on and argue abt d day.

Ubenedictus: the israelite bow before, danced and prostrated before the ark of the covenant and the moulding of the cherubim with it. Did they worship the ark and the cherubim Go and study your bible and stop screaming idol worship.

Ubenedictus: yeah God the son has a birthday and so does his mother, today catholics celebrate the birth of mary.

holyvirgin: their are no 3 gods, bt 3 persons in one God. Let me introduce all of u 2 a book cald 'good morning holyspirit' by benny hinn. He explains d mystery of d trinity wit scriptural backings.

holyvirgin: y ar u contradictin u? U dn't blive that mary is d mother of 'God' bt u celebrate d birthday of d 'Almighty God' deliverd by who on earth? lol

Ubenedictus: it seem you will never learn, the fada son and spirit are 3 distinct persons but 1 God. So mary is not the moda of the holyspirit. She is the moda of God the son (GOD IN THE flesh)

k2039: The qualifications for a person are that they have

1. A mind - able to think and act upon their thinking
--The Holy Spirit has a mind (see Romans 8:27).
--The Holy Spirit helped to settle questions during the Church Council at Jerusalem (see Acts 15:28).
--The Holy Spirit dispenses gifts to different individuals according as He wills (see 1 Corinthians 12:8-11).
--The Holy Spirit forbade some from going to preach in certain places (see Acts 16:6-7).
2. their own will - self identity
--The Holy Spirit anointed Jesus and sent Him out to preach the gospel (see Luke 4:18-19); In fact, both the Father and the Holy Spirit sent Jesus (see Isaiah 48:16).
--The Holy Spirit testifies or witnesses of Jesus (see John 15:26).
--The Holy Spirit leads God’s people (see Romans 8:14).
--The Holy Spirit teaches and causes us to remember the truth (John 14:26).
--The Holy Spirit comforts us as does Christ (John 14:16).
--The Holy Spirit strives with us (see Genesis 6:3).
--The Holy Spirit reproves us of sin, righteousness, and judgment (see John 16:8-11).
--The Holy Spirit instructs us (see Nehemiah 9:20).
3. and emotions - able to react cognitively
The Holy Spirit also has emotions, can be grieved, vexed, or pleased. (Is. 63:10; Eph. 4:30; Acts 15:28)


The Holy Spirit is identified as a Person by John, using in the Greek the masculine ekeinos in Jn.16:13.
The main purpose of the Holy Spirit was to come alongside the believer, to do what Jesus did when he was here physically, but mainly from the inside of us. He is called the comforter, this would be a hard thing to do if the Holy Spirit is an impersonal force
[color=#000000]FROSBEL YOU WRONG THIS TIME[/color]
A lot of posters have given you references

Goshen360: If you ask me na who I go ask.......Abeg, I no want trouble this Saturday morning wey I just dey wake with my rapper and chewing stick for mouth.....Abeg make I finish my chewing stick find better amala chop and collect fresh air for body.....

Goshen360: Two of una dey joke abi? Me, I will not touch God's anointed o

Goshen360: Why y'all want your "cut". You think everything is all about "cut, cut"? Huh So will you debate me if I don't give you your "cut"? Seems it looks like everyone is fighting for their own cut now.......Well, there is MORE THAN ENOUGH to go round in the kingdom of God

Goshen360: My brother, not only do I want to start collecting tithe......it is the "kingdom privilege and biblical rights" for ministers of the Gospel in which I am......Abi you sef wan debate me ni?

naslinks: The Bible doesn't specify Mary by name. The book of Hebrews and Revelation have instances where the dead saints are said to be intercessors for the living. Because of the angel's address to Mary as "most blessed" when announcing Jesus' upcoming birth, We Catholics regards her as the highest saint, and thus ask her to intercede most often. We do not pray to her as if she were a goddess but rather request her intercessesion to God and presence in our times of need.
Those of you who are confused should seek the grace of God for wisdom and understanding of the scripture.

Ubenedictus: i very much doubt that you are confused, catholics believe the the son of God, Jesus christ, is God, im very sure you have heard it before it is called the trinity.

Ubenedictus: it is a write up, catholic celebrate universally 3 birthdays, the birth of the lord and savior Jesus christ and the 2 people God used in his mission, john the baptist his foreruner who told d world "behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world" and the virgin mary who God chose to be the mother of my savior, she accepted God's will for her in humble obedience when she said "be it done to me according to your words". Sept 8 is d day catholics, estern catholics and some orthodox christains celebrate the birth of mary.
Peace

holyvirgin: ask God 4 wisdom

holyvirgin: who is God? God d father, son and spirit ar bt one God. A person wit 3 diff xtics. He was right 2 say God. Now go read ur bible

obowunmi: Are you gay? Who are you calling dear??

You are basing your comment on subjectivity. No point arguing with you - keep twisting and creation your own interpretation of the bible.

obowunmi: You are making your subjective comment based upon your interpretation of the biblicl book. Nothing makes your statement true or correct.

naslinks: Many non-Catholics have been trained from childhood to believe that one of the clear proofs of the falsity of Catholicism is to be found in the honor that is paid to the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Catholic Church, and in the innumerable trusting prayers that are offered to her by Catholics. At the same time it is true that many non-Catholics, when they learn what are the genuine foundations of Catholic devotion to Mary , are drawn by it so irresistibly that. ultimately they become Catholics. For the truth is very simple and clear, and is all contained in the following two truths. 

1. Mary is the Mother of God. Catholics do not believe that God was bound by any compulsion to have a Mother; they believe that He chose to have a Mother and all that this implies. He chose to permit His human body to be formed in her womb. 

He chose to permit her to bring Him forth as a tiny baby into the world. He chose to let her feed Him at her breast, carry Him in her arms, guard Him from danger, and teach Him as any child would be taught, to walk and speak and pray. He thereby chose to grant Mary a power over Him that only love can bestow. Catholics believe that in choosing a mother, the Son of God chose to grant her the power over His will that the love of a good mother always wields over a good son. 

2. Mary is a mother to all men. Catholics believe that the Son of God chose to come into the world through a mother in order that that mother might accept as His brothers all the children of the sinful race of man. He set an example as to how she should be honored and loved. He prepared her for this motherhood of all by asking her to suffer every conceivable form of pain, thus teaching her sympathy for the sorrows of her children. Had she been His Mother alone, He would have spared her from pain, because He had the power to do so and because He loved her with an infinite love. He wrought His first public miracle at her request, and when He was dying He reminded her that she had been destined from the beginning to be a Mother to all. Catholics therefore believe that Mary will be as eager to help them, in troubles of soul and body, as every natural mother is eager to promote the welfare of her child. 

The rosaries that Catholics recite are but the expression of their belief in these two truths. They know that if Mary speaks to her Divine Son in their behalf, there can be no doubt about their receiving an answer to their prayers.

seriallink: Valley of the dry bones LWKMD brah~

MacDaddy01: Who ever said that the bible is the written by catholics?

The only compiled it. If they compiled it, they are the closest to know what is in it. The realest christians.

That is the point.

I am not a catholic and I do not like christianity very much. But the truth has to be said that catholicism is christianity