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Christianity EtcRe: Be In The World But Not Of The World. by ijawkid(m): 6:28pm On May 12, 2012
jmoore: Did Jesus ask us to go to hospitals?

keep avoiding questions

public schools setup by the government therefore christians should not go to government owned schools because satan is controlling the government?
Jesus drew d line my bro when it came to d worlds politics we all know that...

Jesus paid taxes that we know and true christians imitate that by paying back ceasers things to ceaser....

Jesus was partiÇularly neutral to worlds rulership...
U can't hide from that fact...

D apostles went to court,which was owned by d government but they also drew d line when it came to involvement in politics...

Neutrality to world rulership is one thing Jesus by his actions taught his followers...

Like I said earlier we've seen what d worlds politics has done to good christians...

It always changes them from been good christians to agents of satan...

Our country is an example....

Tribalism,nationalism,egotism.wars,assasinations, etc...

Those are d products of human rulership and when christians since d time of the papacy(because ofcus 1st century christians were no part of d world) got involved in d worlds politics spiritual chaos was d outcome...
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 6:14pm On May 12, 2012
Goodluck and our politricksians too dey speak in tongues too o...

I wonder how them take they speak am sef...

Hmmmm!!!!m


@buzugee....yoÙr eye don cleÀr now??

Or make I bring water Çome?
Christianity EtcRe: Be In The World But Not Of The World. by ijawkid(m): 1:39pm On May 12, 2012
U guys haven't still answered d question I've been asking??

Did Jesus do politics?

How did he react when d opportunity came for him to run into politicshuh

Whatever happened to us following Jesus's footsteps closely??


Obama has disgraced christians by accepting gay marraige and endorsing it...

More is coming!!!

How can u engage in d politics of this world and not ally with satan?

Ur all acting ignorant...

These political set up's are 1 of d major things Jesus himself will destroy when he comes back...

Be no part of d world!!!!

Heed d command and stop giving lame excuses just to be part of the world.....
Christianity EtcRe: Be In The World But Not Of The World. by ijawkid(m): 1:20pm On May 12, 2012
Was daniel a christian??

Was nicodemus a christianhuh

U better read ur bible...

I want u to mention 1 baptized christian in d 1st century who engaged in politics.??

Don't tell me about daniel who was in exile in babylon...

I want u to mention a christian...

Starting from our master Jesus...

I asked about pillars of christianity ur taking me back to nehemiah...

Is nehemiah d founder of christianity or Jesus??

Did Jesus engage or have any business with d political set up of his days??

Answer my questions,.....

I am a bible student........
Christianity EtcRe: Be In The World But Not Of The World. by ijawkid(m): 12:25pm On May 12, 2012
Question for u all...

Did Jesus engage in politicshuh

Did his apostles engage in politics??

Did d early christians engage in politicshuh


Why are u asking me if I'm a witnesshuh

Do I have to be 1 to understand d scriptureshuh


More christians will continue to embarass christianity by engaging in politics...

U think u can rule this world which satan is ruling already??

U think 1 of d reasons d holyspirit was sent was for us to be part of the worldhuh

Thru out history professed christians engaging in politics has brought nothing else bt shame to d name of christ...

Blood shed,nepotism, etc...just a few to mention..

If christians could heed Jesus. Warning we would have less sins to bear....


We can see how all d christians ruling 9ja has either joined ogboni,killed,stolen public funds etc

Jesus and early christians never engaged in politics and they still remained. Christlike...

U guys no what I mean ur just acting like ur ignorant of d world we live in
NYSCRe: 2011/2012 Corpers: Have You Received Your Allowance For April? by ijawkid(m): 11:54am On May 12, 2012
I hate nysc and nigeria...

When it was time for them to give us oat forms to fill they nver hesitated to do that,but now to pay allowee they r acting like pregnant snails...

Yeye!!
Christianity EtcRe: Church Leaders In Zimbabwe Blacklist T.B Joshua, Calling Him A Fake Prophet by ijawkid(m): 11:38am On May 12, 2012
Ebenezerk2: Are you really a bible reader? Jesus Christ said without signs and wonders, these people will not believe, and He also said, I have given you power to heal, to set captives free etc, without signs and wonders how would they believe.
And the same Jesus said he'll deny them....

What signs are u seeking in these last dayshuh
What other sign will men of god perform that Jesus didn't perform 100 times better...

None of them are ressurectiong dead people...
They are all useless to d society...

Planning crusades here and there meanwhile many are still getting sick...

Jesus moved from house to house curing d sick and raising d dead,..

These days pastors stay @ there comfort zones waiting for sick people to come beg them for a cure...they drive jets and phantoms,live there lives like politicians,proud bigots....

Why won't Jesus deny there arses!!!!!


Nigerians will look for a sign until they all enter into a pit!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Be In The World But Not Of The World. by ijawkid(m): 11:08am On May 12, 2012
Which politics is not dirtyhuh

Mention just 1....

Is it american,nigerian,chinese..??
Which 1??

Which 1 doesn't reveal d power behind it...SATAN!!!!

When its time to flee from d world u only mention immorality but forsake d worlds political system lying in the hands of satan d devil!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Adam The First Man Was A Blackman(evidence) by ijawkid(m): 10:51am On May 12, 2012
Hahahahaahahahahaha....funny post...

Who knows!!!!

Wether black,pink,white,yellow we are who we are today....Gods creations
Christianity EtcRe: Be In The World But Not Of The World. by ijawkid(m): 10:48am On May 12, 2012
So based on Jesus principles can and should christians engage in d worlds politicshuh
Christianity EtcRe: How To Pray Effectively By Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Phd by ijawkid(m): 10:11am On May 12, 2012
Why is d phd title clinged to his namehuh

Phd in whathuh

In Gods work??
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 10:06am On May 12, 2012
Goshen and buzugee ona go interprete bible so tay holy spirit go arrest ona enter prison..lol


@goshen.....so do u still pray/speak in tongues there in americahuh
Make them no gather u beat o...lol

@buzugee....stop drinking baileys...its bad for ya health.....lol
Christianity EtcRe: Church Leaders In Zimbabwe Blacklist T.B Joshua, Calling Him A Fake Prophet by ijawkid(m): 8:30am On May 12, 2012
If TB joshua is fake!!!

So also is:::
Oyedepo
Adeboye
Oritsejafor
Oyhakilome
Kicc general overseer(forgotton his name)


All of them....

The problem is some of the other G.O's are just jealous of TB joshua if u ask me....

My final advice to all christians:::: true christianity will never be marked by miracles in these last days.....
LOVE is what will show who true christians are...

That is d reason why Jesus himself will deny many who performed great works using his name.....

My people make we focus ooo!!
Christianity EtcRe: Reasons Why I Know Obama Is Not A Christian by ijawkid(m): 7:53pm On May 11, 2012
Obama is not a christian and never was!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: What Part Of A Car Will You Compare An Atheist To ? by ijawkid(m): 5:15pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: you right. the cross is simply an idol image. its like if Jesus lived today and he was killed by the electric chair. will people start idolizing electric chairs and wearing it around their necks ?
Exactly buzugee...

its also like if Jesus was killed with a lethal injection and people start wearing injections on there neck!!!

Pure idolatry...
Christianity EtcRe: What Part Of A Car Will You Compare An Atheist To ? by ijawkid(m): 4:21pm On May 11, 2012
Lmao @ buzugee...

I think an exhaust pipe best describes them....lol

I'm just joking too...

We are all brothers...
Christianity EtcRe: Yekini: A Lesson For All by ijawkid(m): 4:10pm On May 11, 2012
@omopastor...

Where is d location of ur hell firehuh
Where is it located??

In ur head or in nigeriahuh

Whereeeeeeeeeehuh?

Dilluminati is 100 percent right...

Grave is what it is....

And mind u not only born agains will enjoy Gods kingdom....

There r many righteous 1's who are and will not be born agains that will enjoy Gods kingdom...

Number 1:::::ABEL.....
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 11:56am On May 11, 2012
Enigma: I like to add one thing especially for the benefit of ijawkid.


When it says "if there be tongues, they shall cease" ---- it does not necessarily mean that the gift of tongues has ceased for the whole Christian church. It does not necessarily mean that God by the Spirit can still not give a particular person the gift and power of tongues today.

One way of looking at it is this: even if an individual is given the power or gift of tongues, it is temporary anyway and he will not always (continue to) speak in tongues.

So, "tongues shall cease" is not necessarily a dispensational thing; but can be seen as a realistic acceptance that the individual given the gift, at any time in history including today will not necessarily always have it. Even for the people in Acts, it is just recorded that they spoke in tongues the once, we don't know that they repeated it. The only hint we have that it could have been a repeated experience for some is Paul saying "I thank God I speak in tongues more than you all." However, even that does not suggest that it continued indefinitely for him.

One interesting thing so far on this thread is that the active participants seem to be agreed that the most prevalent practice today does not match what the Bible says.

cool
In all d truth is clear as to what we are seeing today....

I want 1 of them to come to my village or any other interior village and deliver Gods message in dialects they'v never spoken nor understood b4.....
Lol

Let them make d speaking in tongues useful as it was back then in d 1st century..
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Christians Amongst The Most Miserable On Earth by ijawkid(m): 5:49am On May 11, 2012
Many christians are not poverty stricken and miserable in 9ja because they are christians...

The country we live in is just pathetic...


a country where d political class steals everything ,u expect persons to be sane??


Christians,muslims,atheists(that's if they are not hiding inside there shells in 9ja),traditional worshipers all suffer from d hands of d country called nigeria...

Christianity is not d issue mr poster..

While christianity fosters a balanced view of life free from materialism,it doesn't encourage poverty....
It encourages contentment....

And guess whathuh

Your wrong to say real christians are miserable....

Whyhuh

In amidst all lifes wahala and troubles real christians are 1 of d happiest persons amongst others because we serve God and that makes us happy not miserable....

Because we know this life is not all there is and comfort is on the way....

Life eternal!!!!!!

What more can we ask for??
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 5:31am On May 11, 2012
So todays christianity has decided to discard 1 aspect of speaking in tongues(speaking in known earthly tongues) and chose to keep praying in unknown tongues?

Is that not so?

Because that is what you goshen is saying..

My point is even on d fact that it has ceased....

I would have loved to see d apostles speak in the real tongues back then in d 1st century,but not todays type...

1 corinthians 13 never told us that it would cease partially,it said all will cease...

Wether u want to classify them or not those abilities aren't needed anymore...theyr
Gone..

You Àgreed that mayb the main aspect of it has been done away with(d preaching with various tongues),but u still cling to d fact that praying in unknown tongues has not ceased...
That's not biblical.....paul said every every will cease...


The early patriachs of old didn't need to speak Ór pray in tongues...

Even Jesus who had d holy §pirit swimming in his system never needed to,I mentioned that earlier.....

Wa§ it that those servants of God were less spiritual or had less holy spirit because they never prayed in unknown tongueshuh

People have always prayed to God with there native tongue...

Why the introduction of speakin in tongues??


The ability or d gift of tongues was giving for a reason to a fledgling congregation and that reason was long established and so it has been done away with...

Simple!!!

Evidencehuh??

The rubbish people speak today..

Its .all acting,they are forcing it...


And I could remember some1 saying even satan can make many persons spit out utterances...
Even d demons can speak in various tongues...
We gotta be Çareful..

From the bible .we should know what will stand in these last days.....

I have relatives who all speak in tonguÉs and they are just all daft spiritually speaking...

Immoral,smokers,politicians that embessle public funds etc.....

My ex girl freind that also attends winners claims she speaks in tongues...

I just SMH and laugh....

Its all gone bro....

We don't need it,Love is what will remain...

I repeat it LOVE is what will remain..

And I aint seeing that love...

Which means something is wrong somewhere....
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 11:44pm On May 10, 2012
Ok let us for a second just believe that they weren't known languages,did the apostles repeat in-cohorent words when prayinghuh


Did they repeat words haphazardly over and over again just as we hear many today do??


Goshen for d last time just quietly confess to all of us that ur praying in tongues is not d same pattern with what we hear all over d churches in nigeriahuh


Tatatatatatatapapapapapapapapapaboboboobobobobobob

Its crazy man!!

I'm out of here
Christianity EtcRe: Reasons Why I Know Obama Is Not A Christian by ijawkid(m): 11:32pm On May 10, 2012
This is what happens when christians say they must get involved in politics...


U end up on satans side...

I was never surprised when I heard about obama's stand...

Any other professed christian will and must always be squeezed into satans mould when u decide to run for politics..


Satan rules d world!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Bishop Oyedepo Get The Cash To Build All His PRIVATE ESTABLISHMENTS?? by ijawkid(m): 11:11pm On May 10, 2012
But na true ona dey talk o....


Many call Jesus straight by his name...
We even call almighty God Yahweh by his name...

But this mere dust(humans) are called by d titles DADDY or PAPA even after Jesus said we shouldn't call any1 by that name under a religious context....


Can church goers just wake up and start calling that mortal man brother oyedepohuhhuh?

Because we all are brothers...
Christianity EtcRe: Obama, Another Important Christian, Supports Gay Marriage!! by ijawkid(m): 10:39pm On May 10, 2012
Obama isn't a christian....real christians don't engage in d politics of this world....

U no know beforehuh

Obama is in d hands of d ruler of this world,SATAN!!!!!!!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 2:14pm On May 10, 2012
@goshen....my bro they have all ceased...
Wether praying or speaking....all gifts of speaking in tongues have ceased...they'v been done away with..

Paul never distinguished tongues when he wrote those verses,I wonder where ur geting ur analogy from...

U guys have run away from d main reason why tongues we're giving as a gift and focusing on ur own presumpteous steps...

I can't believe u guys are now differentiating tongues.....
Where did u hear that??

Tongues is tongues....

The 1 all christians spoke @ pentecost is d same tongues paul was discussing in other parts of d scriptures....

They were all for a sign to unbelievers....

So d main focus was using those various tongues to spread d gospel,which d churches today can't do because d power is not there anymore..

And so u guys resort to speaking rubbish and call it tongue....


I won't argue this any further..

U can keep repeating in-cohorent words,blabbing over gibberish and then thinking its speaking in tongues....

The truth is clear....

Its all a scam....

Imagine people been taught how to speak in tongues!!!!

Some even have speaking in tongues classes!!!

Some have holy ghost classes!!!

Where in d bible were people taught hw to speak in tongueshuh

Scam scam scam!!!!!!!!!!..

I'm off...

BUZUGEE where are u??
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 11:58am On May 10, 2012
Image123: "Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away." (1 Corinthians 13:cool.
They shall cease is different from they have ceased. It's still a big world it seems.
It has ceased bro..

Because is absolute rubbish I hear people speak...
Its all gone bro...

Interprete

Tatatatatatatatapopopopopopopopogagagagagagagagagagarararaarararararararababababababababababkokookokokokokokkooktitititit


What's thathuh

This is what professed christians today utter and say they r speaking in tongues...

Always disgracing God!!!!!!!!

Absolute gibberish...

Repeating in-cohorent words that constitutes nuisance to d society....
Instead of benefiting unbelievers,they drive them away....


LOVE is what will mark true christianity in these last days...
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 11:37am On May 10, 2012
Joagbaje: @ ijawkid


There's is a difference between the gift of Diversity of tongues and and praying in Tongues. Diversity of tongues is ability to speak in earthly unlearned language. Thus is not prayer but to speak the word of God to people in their language or any unlearned language . Not every body has this gift. But praying in tongues is a communion with God in a heavenly language which also edify ones self . It's a necessity for every christian .

There's tongues of men and heavenly language or tongues of angels.

1 Corinthians 13:1
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal
.

Praying in tongues is also called praying in the spirit. Because its a heavenly language it doesn't have to be in earthly words . Heavely communication is different . Repetition may be there. God calls it stammering lips.

Isaiah 28:11
For with stammering lips and another tongue. will he speak to this people .
.

Because its a heavenly communication with God, one word could mean several things. The" rabaraba" means different things. Take for example someone "laughing " in the spirit yet in the spirit realm it means something. Some groan in the spirit ,like Jesus did at the grave of Lazarus ,yet each groan ,means different things.

Romans 8:26-27
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God
.

A groan is not a human language . When birds of animal communicate among themselves it seems they are saying thesame thing each time we hear their sound ,yet in their own realm they say different things.
So do u have d gifthuhto speak and pray and sing in tongueshuh

My brother I just gave u d example of how many now speak in tongues..

In winners chapel speaking in tongues is a prerequisite for baptism...
And guess what the gullible individuals are taught hw to speak in tongues...

Its all crazy my bro..
I believe u attend 1 of d prosperity churches and I knw and I'm convinced that that is how u learnt how to speak in tongues..

I know d recent tricks behind it...recent speakin in tongues is a scam my bro...

Have u asked urself why Jesus never spoke in tongues even when he had d holy spirit all over him...huh
Jesus had all d gifts in d world but speaking in tongues was never part of it...
Why?
Did he need ithuh

Why was that ability provided to d early christianshuh
did they need it and why?

It was for a reason and ur running away from that reason...

Until u concede. And know d reason u'll never understand why that power to speak in tongues has ceased!!!...

Gifts are for a reason and when that reason is met and accomplished what is d use of d gift??
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 11:31am On May 10, 2012
buzugee: well you have to remember now, logicboy was an altar boy and night vigil partner wink * wink * of the polish papal love-vendor for 22 years now. he knows his bible now. 22 years aint no joke bruh. he put in work for 22 years
Hahahahahaha....

D boy realy been sabi bible well well no be small....lol
Christianity EtcRe: Complete Good News! by ijawkid(m): 8:01pm On May 09, 2012
@ola ...u still dnt get it do uhuh

Please try telling me when d easter is celebrated and wether its not d same exact day wit when d pagans(catholics) instigated it,.....

when is easter celebratedhuh
on d very pagan date it has always been...

When was Jesus christ ressurected??
and did his apostles celebrate his ressurection??


Its all pagan my freind!!

Just concede and focus on real bible truths rather than tryin to defend what d catholics initiated,.....because Jesus had nothin to do wit easter
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 7:44pm On May 09, 2012
It baffles me how logic boy understands d bible so clearly than joe and d rest who claim they are speaking in tongues..


@joe....give me 1 reason why it shuldnt be a known or earthly language or tonguehuh

Can u please answer this question??

Why was d ability to speak in tongues bestowed on early christians in d 1st placehuhcan u tell me??

There was a sole reason why d apostles spoke in tongues...until u answer that question u can never get d sense of it.....

Simple things u guys always wanna make complicated....

If d apostles didn't speak in known languages then why was it called a tonguehuh??

It should have been called a vision or sometin mystical....
Christianity EtcRe: Here Is A List Of Churches That Has Derailed In The Message Of Holiness. by ijawkid(m): 4:38pm On May 09, 2012
Hehehehehehehe....

Like 1 boy on nairaland use to say

""Any1 who attends a church where d G.O's or pastors own private jets or drives a phantom or a limozeeen is a cretin!!!!!""""

And cretins they are sorry to say...
Lol
Christianity EtcRe: Next Time You See Someone Speaking In Tongues In Church, Slap Them by ijawkid(m): 4:09pm On May 09, 2012
@joe...so when people pray in tongues that's when we hear those in-cohorent words ba??

But when speaking in tongues takes place it has to be a known language that might need an interpretation in case some persons don't understand d language been spoken??

Is that what u guys are sayinghuh


So in a congregation everybody can pray in tongues is that what u mean my brother??

To what end??
To benefit whohuh

Please read this part of 1 corinthians 14:22...

Tongues are for a sign to unbelievers....

That ability to speak in various tongues was given to early christians for d sole purpose of spreading d kingdom news to many who needed to hear it in there own native dialect or language...

Even @ that in 1 corinthians 13:8-13 paul tells us that those powers will cease when they must have accomplished its purpose...
And ceased it did!!!

D early fledgling church needed these power to speak in tongues so as to spread d message as far as they could to the most distant part of d earth...how could they have accomplished this from Jerusalem if not for d gift of speaking in tongueshuh

With a complete bible existing in almost all d languages existing in d world,with all prophetic words written down for us in d bible ,what more do we needhuh

Do u still need to speak in tongueshuh?
Imagine speaking to a cong where evrybody understands english or pidgin english and then u still insist on speaking in tongues,would it make any sensehuh?

D apostles fulfilled and accomplished there ministry wit those gifts,what are recent professed christians accomplishing with there'shuh

Paul told us what will remain when all those powers are ceased...LOVE!!!!!

In a country like nigeria where love has gone down d drain,but many claim to speak in tongues will really tell u that the power to speak in tongues has indeed vanished...

I judge a genuine christian not by tongues speaking but by how much d individual shows self sacrificing love....

Tongues tongues tongues but nobody is ever benefiting from it.....
Neither d speaker nor d unbeliever...

Of what use is it then?

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