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buzugee: The KJV was commisioned when there was not an agenda of racial superiority. as such it is the closest to the source which is hebrew and greek manuscripts. when the agenda of racial superiority ( daniel 8 vs 25 ) took a center stage, other versions came out to neutralize the percieved error in the KJV. lets look at this verse for example.

LAMENTATIONS 5 VS 10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine. ( describing the color of the jews in kjv )

LAMENTATIONS 5 VS 10 Our skin has become as hot as an oven, Because of the burning heat of famine (same verse in newer editions )

notice how they try to remove the black color of the jews ?

You and skin color.......
Lol

Frosbel just said something very important that we all nid to look @.............

B4 the kjv came were all other translations useless??


If No,then why claim kjv is d best and truest translation while others are false??

That's why I always ask did d KJV fall from heaven..............

And please buzugee I know ur good with bible history........
Can u kindly tell me where and how did d rendering in 1john 5:7 come about in the KJV

Isaac newton who lived close to that time saw that error too u know.....

buzugee: The KJV was commisioned when there was not an agenda of racial superiority. as such it is the closest to the source which is hebrew and greek manuscripts. when the agenda of racial superiority ( daniel 8 vs 25 ) took a center stage, other versions came out to neutralize the percieved error in the KJV. lets look at this verse for example.

LAMENTATIONS 5 VS 10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine. ( describing the color of the jews in kjv )

LAMENTATIONS 5 VS 10 Our skin has become as hot as an oven, Because of the burning heat of famine (same verse in newer editions )

notice how they try to remove the black color of the jews ?

I just knew skin color would be your 1st point....

Lol

E be like u black well well....
Lol

buzugee: sometimes love is brutal. what can i tell ya how they say PROVERBS 13 VS 24 He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even Jesus whipping those rogues outta d temple was even part of a prophecy about him he had to fulfill.............


Oyedepo fans quote that incident to support d devil slap that lil girl received from OGA..........
Lol

Goshen360: ^
You seems to have issues with trinity and i suggest you dont have to FIGHT the word of God because you dont understand trinity.....God can be One billion if he chooses to, God is NOT man my brother.

Where did kjv get its 1john 5:7 from?


Answer me goshen..........

U dnt come out here putting kjv high on a pedastal when it was infact men who did d translation...............


Did it fall from heaven?

Or did d apostles pass it over...?


B4 the kjv was formed were all other bible translations false??


Dnt give me that kjv crap..........

Fine its a good translation but not perfect.........


Got it??

It got its own errors because humans did d renderings................


If God decides to be 1billion then I'll just go join d buddist or d hindus in idol worship..............

God is not man but he wants us to know him not to be confused about him...............

PAGAN 9JA:
[size=32pt]there is NOTHING wrong with idol worship![/size]

It is not the wood or stone that we worship, but what it represents. The abrahamists r just intent upon spreading lies about us. Let it be known that there is no true devotion involved in worshipping 'thin air'. We humans are materialistic in nature. We need to touch, sense, smell or see something b4 we entertain any feelings towards it. Even the sly and crafty roman catholics, though involved in man worship (unlyk us Pagans who worship God), still keep an idol of jesus in their place of worship, though they shamelessly deny idolatory outside.
AGikuyu Pagan traditionalists from Kenya on the other hand, though monotheists, worship 'God'/Ngai by worshipping him through his creations by worshiping nature. This is also a form of idolatory and it is good.
even the most fanatic of muslims sees an 'image' of God while praying. It is just in our nature and how it was meant to be..

https://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/007/cache/african-smallpox-idol_796_600x450.jpg

Hahahahahaha..............

Pagan boy I trust you..............................

Idol worshiper per excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

solidbroda: if i dont have any evidence, i wontsay.d starof david is hidden.the star of davidis not associated with cheistianity. Also,there are building with dollar signs. another name for dollar is peso, and i think you should go on look for dollar sign history. Another is a Doric sign. used in ancient greek world. Used is the olympus era mythology, and so many more hidden signs

All there in cannan land?


This is serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can other winners member confirm this

Did the KJV fall down from heaven?



It was tampered with as well...........


Easter,ghost and d rest are all spurious words found in d bible..........



Where did KJV get there own 1john 5:7 from


Where?

Latin vulgate aint it

KJV my foot.....

Ubenedictus: i think you misunderstood my point, catholic member have supported some war and im sure that there are protestants in the army, but the church hasnt expressed support for wars in recent times.
i have no problem with logic boy it seems you misunderstood my point.

how can a christain group preach that its member should not participate in politic Is that right The church does not preach any particular party so i consider it neutral.
the crusades happened many centuries ago and im talking about recent time. The marines in the US are both catholics, protestant and atheist.
didnt protestants get involved? The catholic church was neutral to the biafra war. Cant you show me one letter from the vatican that supported the war?? No?? The church didnt support that war.
i thought protestants got it from the bible, the papacy in recent times has been political neutral. It teach the christain should be good leader just like the bible preaches but the church is not and does not support a political party

Abi na lie good post ijawguy it is true that many catholic support some war as it is sometime necessary to use limited violence to rescue the oppressed from the hands of an unjust oppressor, just open your bible and you will find instance. The catholic church hasnt as a body supported any war for about 100years. Please provide proof that the catholic church support the 2 world wars

U can keep on denying my bro.....

Keep on!!!!!!!


If nigeria goes to war today won't ur fellow catholics join in fighting for nigeria?

Won't u urself pick up a gun all in d name of defending ur nation?

Haven't we watched ur Fathers and priests pray for d army to go to war?

Oboy if u want proof go and read ur history,,,............

The catholic church has always been in d fore front of this worlds politics and wars......


Soon u'll start denying what u guys did with d crusade.......


I said as a group and as individual catholics u guys have supported wars....

My relatives who were stunch catholics took part in d biafra war....I know ur relations did too....
Stop denying bro

Am I wrong??

Joagbaje: maybe they were Nairalanding. I have found myself Nairaland inside church because of guy frosbel

Roflmao..

So frosbel lure u so tay u nairaland inside church
Lol

@poster....

Don't u still celebrate christmas if I may ask


But I think d catholic church has to do a lot of reformation and adjusting of there tenets.....

This whole pagan thing is just too glaring....

They can cÀn just adjust...

There's nothin wrong in adjusting to agree with d bible......

Image worship and all is just too false for christianity...

Can u tell us some of d signs that are in canaan land or u just want to bash d guy....

buzugee: amongst other things

oh yeah they should have been black. ( lamentations 4 vs 8 ) ( lamentations 5 vs 10 )

Then mayb next time u hold a black crayon to paint those pix black.....
Lol

Ubenedictus: what scale are u using? Where did u get the idea that catholic practice idolatry? So you are happy that witness believe there is no hell fire right? And for ur information the CC is not in politic and war is all about the right principle but the CC for a long time hasnt supported war. I have witnesses in my family and they dont practice anything. It is really a bad idea to compare the two and you did a really bad job trying to compare.

Oboy so ur telling me no cathoic member goes to war or has supported tribal wars or nationalistic wars in this our recent times?

Who are u telling that to
Me?

Don't let logic boy meet u here to give u some hi§tory........


As iÑdividuals and as a group d catholics have supported wars and d worlds poilitics.....


Jehovahs witnesses are totally neutral both as individuals and as a group.....


U forget how ya popes spare headed d crusades.got involved in the both world wars.....
Who are some of d soldiers in the U.S marines that have gone to fight wars for there country


What
About thÉ biafra war?
Didn't catholic members get involved??

As a group and as individuals catholics will always support wars.........
Its a fact......

Where do u think d other christian denominations got d thinking that christians shuld engage in d politics of this world if it was nt d papacy who started it

Or have u thrown away ur history books??

I compare because of what I see d witnesses believe and do.....


Abi na lie

buzugee: interesting. you know there was a point in time when i found the book extremely scary. all these things about beasts with 7 heads and 10 horns etc etc etc freaked me out seriously. the book terrified me. once upon a time, of course

Reading revelation rili helped me knw where this satan ruled world is heading to.....

Ofcus it gets scary sometimes.....especially that wild beast....
Thank Yah its symbolic not some literal dragons in merlin

logicboy: Revelations is nonsense

You be yeye boy......

Frosbel e be like u be serious anti-catholic o....
Lol



Well all I can say to catholics is """NA WA""

All of the above my bro....

D truth about revelations is that we will continue to learn it and align our understandings to that book until d world ends and after.....

Its a book of judgement(armageddon),and happy everlasting times to come...

buzugee: ill sooner eat a bowl of cyanide than pick a choice from the options. you have to look at logicboy to see how the catholic church can make you a deranged individual lol. and i aint feeling jehovahs wickedness with their pamphlets containing white jesus and white moses and all that foolishness

Hahahahahahahahahaha



So d white Jesus and moses is d problem u got with them

Lmao......

They kinda arabians if u ask me.....

Shuld they have been black?


Lol

Jesus i§ son of himself.....

According to some teaching.....

buzugee: Ijawkid, you are going to have to get comfortable with the fact that you (your body ) will not live forever. i know you had this dream and desire of immortality

My final point is ressurection and re-incarnation cannot all be biblical...

One has to stay and d other refuted...

They are not compatible.....

If we are to be re-incarnating then d ressurection theory is useless....

I asked u when lazarus was resurrected what happend?


How was he resurrected??

If he had already started re-incarnating then Jesus would have just left him to continue jumping from one body to another in between time lines........

D disciples of Jesus too definitly were confused as to to what ressurection is.....
Some also must have held on to d re-incarnation theory,but were corrected after they watched Jesus ressurect lazarus right in front of there eyes....


But Jesus who is our perfect teacher gave d right answer to d questions of d apostle as to if that blind guy re-incarnated.......

I follow Jesus reply not d disciples thinking...

They were jejune that's why they needed there master to clarify issues.....
Of which Jesus did....


U claim ressurection is for d saints alone?

What did lazarus,jarius daugter,tabitha and d rest all experience.....

I have asked u who now are d re-incarnated patriachs of old


Mayb enoch of old must have re-incarnated to pastor enoch adeboye of reedem church today....lol

Or mayb david,solomon all must have re-incarnated to some persons we see today...

Mayb logic boy is d re-incarnated darwin who knows....lol



The fact is Jesus would be crazy to have talked about ressurection when re-incarnation was possible....

Remember there will be a ressurection of both righteous and d un-righteous when d end comes......

Ressurection and re-incarnation can never be compatible...
Never!!!

@buzugeee....

U also quoted john 9:1 $ 2......to prove ya point on re-incarnation...

But mayb u failed to realy analyze Jesus's answer to his disciples as to who sinned that led to mans been born blind....

What was Jesus reply?

John 9:3:::::: ""neither this man sinned nor his parents"""""

Jesus's reply contradicts d principles of re-incarnation,which implies that disabilities depend on sins from a former life.......

Nobody can sin before being born....

Read romans9:11

buzugee: reincarnation is a fact of life. reincarnation is all over the bible. john the baptist will reincarnate as elijah in the last days. its in the bible. MATTHEW 11 VS 14[b] And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come[/b]

i just read those two verses you gave. Brother you commit a great infarction. you always read the bible literally. this is why you get confused. quick question ? have you ever read the old testament ? i suspect you havent. you can never, and i repeat never fully understand the new testament if you havent read the old testament ( especially from job to malachi )

I have reÀd d old testament ofcus...

Ofcus I'm a bible §tudent......

But my questions and my points are pertinent...

You can't tell me that things pertaining to d earth are nt physical....


Soon u might start telling me that we are not physical but spirit persons on earth......

D bible says persons will live on earth forever and does mention d earthly conditions that would surround that new world but u say we'll live forever in d spirit....

That's absurd.....

We will talk about this re-incarnation issue....

Let me arrange my scriptures and my points correctly........


Like I asked u earlier if we'll be re-incarnating then why do we need to be ressurected


Jesus shulda left lazarus to live on in what ever place he'll be re-incarnated to.......


Ressurection and re-incarnation are 2 words that will everly contradict itself as far as d bible is concerned....

I understand d bible,I weight many possible factors b4 I reach a conclusion.........

If I know I'll keep re-incarnating(ur own explanation of ressurection),then why do many still have to wait in there memorial tombs for Yahweh thru his son Jesus to ressurect them when the end comes??


Abel,noah,isaiah,deborah,abraham,job where have they all re-incarnated to

Can u answer buzu buzu.............


Oya let's analyze johns case.....


U said John d baptizer was elijah reborned...
Right??

But @ john 1:21 who did John himself say he was??

John himself told his inquisitors whom he was....


Was he lying??


Altho it had been fortold that John d baptizer would precede the messiah "with elijahs spirit and power" ,it never mÉant John would be elijah in d re-incarnated form....


It only meant John d baptizer was elijah in d sense that he carried out a work comparable to that of Elijah.....

buzugee: there will be eternal life on earth for those who make it. however eternal life means the eternal life of your spirit not your body. whether you choose to believe it or not, the spirit is reincarnated back onto the earth in a different body every third or fourth generation. as such you have eternal life. your spirit lives forever and returns back to the spirit world and back to earth alternatively like a yoyo. up and down. up and down. up and down. that is eternal life. you dont stay on earth in the same body forever. that is biologically impossible

Buzugeee this ur idealogy fit kill me for laugh,,,,....hehehehehehehe.....

"Yoyo".
Lol...

Frm ur explanation it means u believe so much in re-incarnation.....
Right??

In essense ur saying no need for ressurection??

If we'll keep re-incarnating ,then wahala go dey ooooo...

Meanwhile hw will isaiah's prophecy fulfill if we'll be living forever in d spirit

Prophecies like build houses and have occupancy,a young boy leading wild animals,planting and eating,animals living in peace,lion eating straw just like bull....


Even Jesus re-emphasized these truth @ matthew 5:5....

In verse 3 he talked about those who will live as spirit in heaven,and also those who spend eternity on earth as humans..

buzugee: you have to be mindful what bible you read. do you read the KJV ? because hades and hell and grave are used interchangeably in some bibles. take for example http://bible.cc/acts/2-27.htm look at all the interpretations in that verse, some bible call it hades, some hell, some grave.

grave will not go away, suffering ( hell ) will go away. you will still die but after you have lived to the age of a tree ( methuselah type age ) ISAIAH 65 VS 22 "They will not build and another inhabit, They will not plant and another eat; For as the lifetime of a tree, so will be the days of My people, And My chosen ones will wear out the work of their hands. SO IF YOU MAKE IT TO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ON EARTH, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO. A LONG LIFE.

NO YOU WILL NOT LIVE FOREVER IN GODS KINGDOM -ISAIAH 65 VS 20[b] “Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days,or an old man who does not live out his years; the one who fails to reach[a] a hundred will be considered accursed.[/b] ( THIS IS DESCRIBING LIFE ON EARTH ( HEAVEN ) WHEN CHRIST IS RULING FROM JERUSALEM. NOBODY LIVES FOREVER. BUT THERE WILL NO LONGER BE INFANT DEATHS OR OLD MEN NOT LIVING OUT THEIR YEARS. YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIVE FOREVER ?

THE DEATH THAT WILL BE THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE IS SPIRITUAL DEATH NOT PHYSICAL DEATH. YOU HAVE A LOT OF SPIRITUALLY DEAD PEOPLE WALKING AROUND CALLING THEMSELVES ATHEISTS. THESE PEOPLE WILL NOT EXIST WHEN CHRIST RETURNS. THEY WILL BE DESTROYED OR RENEWED. ( THIS IS A SYMBOLIC STATEMENT. ANYTIME YOU SEE LAKE OF FIRE USED IT MEANS WHATEVER IS ASSOCIATED WITH IT WILL BE TOTALLY ERADICATED AND DESTROYED )

REVELATION 21 VS 4 ; YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO INTERPRET THE BIBLE LITERALLY. THAT VERSE SAYS GOD WILL WIPE AWAY THEIR TEARS AND THEIR SHALL BE NO MORE DEATH AND PAIN AND SORROW. THIS IS SPIRITUAL DEATH NOT PHYSICAL DEATH. ALL THESE EMOTIONS ARE SPIRITUAL EMOTIONS. GOD ONLY DEALS WITH THE SPIRIT. MAN DEALS WITH THE BODY. YOUR SPIRIT IS THE ONE THAT SORROWS AND MOURNS AND PAINS AND DIES. WHEN YOUR SPIRIT DIES, IT MEANS IT IS ISOLATED FROM GOD AND LEFT IN DARKNESS. GOD HAS REJECTED YOUR SPIRIT AND AS SUCH YOU ARE IN SPIRITUAL DARKNESS, SPIRITUAL DEATH. WELL ALL THAT WILL STOP IN THE KINGDOM. YOU WILL FOREVER BE SPIRITUALLY CONNECTED TO GOD. ( IF THAT WAS PHYSICAL DEATH, THE BIBLE ALWAYS SPECIFIES THAT. IT SAYS STUFF LIKE, YOU WILL NO LONGER LIVE ETC ETC. BIBLE DOES NOT REFER TO PHYSICAL DEMISE AS DEATH BECAUSE PHYSICAL DEMISE IS NOT DEATH. YOUR SPIRIT STILL LIVES )

DEATH WILL BE THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE ( LIKE I SAID INITIALLY IT IS A SYMBOLIC STATEMENT ) IT MEANS SPIRITUAL DEATH WILL BE DESTROYED.

GEHENNA IS A GARBAGE COLLECTION POINT IN ANCIENT ISRAEL WHERE GARBAGE IS BURNED. THIS IS WHERE THE NAME 'HELLFIRE' CAME FROM. THIS IS THE MYTH OF HELL FIRE. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HELLFIRE. HOWEVER THERE IS A LAKE OF FIRE THAT WILL CONSUME BABYLON.

THIS IS WHAT SPIRITUAL DEATH IS ALL ABOUT GENESIS 2 VS 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. ( SPIRITUAL DEATH NOT PHYSICAL )

So u indirectly just cancelled d hope of eternal life here on earth....

Abi??

Please how would u explain psalms 37:29?


If we live like methuselah and then die then why did Jesus die in d 1st place?

I thought d reason was for us to gain eternal life...........

Oboy physical death will not be heard of in Gods kingdom....
Not @ alll....

logicboy: 1) The catholic church compiled the bible you use. You are a catholic in denial because all modern churches broke away from catholic church. Can you trace your church to the 1st century? No. Catholics can

2) Who said that I am happy with what the Bishop said? I am just showing everyone how schizophrenic christianity is.

They compiled a bible they can't still stick to...
Right??

They compiled a bible that refutes many of the doctrines they hold on to....

Abeg throw way that matter for gutter.....!!!!!!!!


Catholics dnt own d bible.....
Its nt there property.....

If it was we wouldn't be using it today,I'll rather use a quaran........

If we are to weight them on a scale I think d witnesses are better.....

They dnt engage in idolatry.......

They dnt believe in an inferno,

They are neutral in politics and war...

and as a group collectively and as individuals they practice what they learn

I so like that about them......

buzugee: hades is another name for GRAVE.

Physical death will remain but you will live to be as old as trees ( i am guessing a tree lives to a thousand years like it was in the beginning like methuselah and them ) instead of the 120 years maximum we have now ( genesis 6 vs 3 ) ( isaiah 65 vs 22 )

satan is not a seperate entity. satan resides in every man. everyman has a satanic and a holy spirit. this is how you can indulge your freewill. when Jesus was being tempted by satan do you think some man named satan walked up to him and started talking to him and tempting him ? that was him fighting temptations within himself. christ was fighting his own satanic side and he prospered.

america is a special place because it is the light bearer of the world. it is lucifer. it controls and runs the world. over 200 million native americans and over 100 million negros were slaughtered to establish the place. scripture says america is the home to every vile and hateful spirit in the world. this is why america has a special date with destruction and extinction. read the book of jeremiah, isaiah and revelation. you will get a proper insight

and let me complete that your last statement. it goes like this ' death and hell will be thrown in the lake of fire when christ kingdom is established on earth ' this translates symbolically to ' spiritual death and suffering will be eliminated when christ rules the earth ' basically hell will be transformed to heaven. no more pain and suffering. pain and suffering make conditions on earth a hellish existence. this will stop when christ establishes his kingdom. so in essence hell will be cast into the lake of fire. hell is a condition on earth that will be eradicated when christ reign on earth. as well as spiritual death ( death) cuz as explained earlier, faith will no longer be a requirement because you will see him. this will eradicate lack of faith which causes spiritual death.

Grave will go away but physical death will remain??v?

How come?

If there are no graves,then there should be no death....

Or do u hope some1 would die in Gods kingdom
Lol


Yes in Gods kingdom our life span would be like that of a tree in that we will love forever....

The only thing hindering us from living forver is death and it is that death that will be thrown into d lake of fire....

Meaning death will be swallowed up forever,meaning there will be no more death(rev 21:3 $ 4)........

Like I asked u na for america too wey death either spiritual or physical would be thrown into??
Lol....


Abi america na gehenna?
Lol

I agree wit ur point to an extent but the america as d location is where I dis agree....

Everlasting destruction is what d lake of fire symbolizes....

Because america too will be thrown into d lake of fire too....

alexleo: Hell is the same thing as what we sometimes call hell fire in the sense that if you read the story of the rich man lazarus in the book of john 16: 22-31 you ll see that-
1. Hell is real.
2. Its a place of torment.
3. The rich man in hell said he was tormented by the flame
4. The man in hell also requested Abraham to send one from among the dead to go and preach to His 5 brothers that are still alive.
My brother dont allow the enemy to deceive you about this thing. There is no death that is worse than the spirit man being in everlasting torment of the lake of fire.
Lake of fire is the final place for both satan and sinners where they will burn forever after the final judgment. Even death will be cast there too.
All this flimsy explanations you people are here giving about hell is the devil' deceit. Why dont you keep yourself pure at all times thru the blood of Jesus and free yourself from the fear of hell which is probably why you are trying to paint an easy picture of hell.
Or you think that God will change things because you dont see it the way it is?

Was d story about d rich man and lazarus a true story or an illustration?


What was d rich mans offense that took him to hell fire??


From that illustraion if we are to look @ it literally d way ur viewing it then it means all rich persons will go to hell fire.....

Isn't it?


Because that rich man did nothing to deserve going to d hell fire......

Also abraham is or was not in heaven when Jesus gave this story....

So back to d main discussion:::::

Is hell fire symbolic or literal??


For ur information if u shuld knw d lake of fire and hell fire are not d same things....

So also hell and hell fire are not d same things too.....


Jesus went to hell......
Do you agree


Hell is d common grave of man(hades,sheol)
Jesus stayed in hell for 3days....


Hell fire is a dogma that came after d 1st century.......

Like I said earlier with d quoting of revelations lake of fire symbolizes total destruction,2nd death...

Death itself will be thrown into d lake of fire,so how can that fire be a real one?

Death death death!!!!!!
Not literally burning up somewhere like as if its an oven....

musKeeto: He's crazy because he's preaching something.. by this definition all other churches that broke away from the Catholic church are also crazy...


If everyone going to heaven is going to rule, who the 4k are they going to rule over?


I don't know about the hating and cursing something you don't believe in part. But if there's a heaven, some atheists would make it..


Hmm...

Not every1 will go to heaven to rule,because they must rule over subjects.....


Those on earth my bro...........


U can't actually go to heaven when u never got ready here on earth to take up that responsibility......

AnÐ again I stress that bishop must be crazy....

U know why


Because d catholic church isn't d bible........

I have a bible,I follow what it says,not what some bishop says......

These are d kinda bishops that sanction gay marraiges too......

Soon he might tell u gays will go to heaven.......


Those who are going to heaven will rule with christ for a thousand years over those who are on earth when satan will be locked in d abyss.......


An atheist can't fit into that arrangement.....(Sorry))...


But I thought u guys love d earth so much...

Ur suppose to be hating what d bishop said....
Lol

@unebedictus......

So Joseph was just a guardian,a fool who just followed mary up and down with having s*x with her(his own wife) till he grew old and died

Please open d scriptures to proof that....


Enough is enough......


We have opened scriptu®es to show mary later gave birth to other children bt Ð catholic dogma won't let u see it.....


So since it wouldn't open d scriptures to show me that joseph also died a virgin since he was a robot that God married to mary


Open open open!!!!!!!

Why won't d protestants break away from u guys with such crazy dogma.......

That is why d catholic church hid d bible from many,burnt them on a stake if they ever owned one......


Show me from d scriptures where it says mary remained a virgin for allll eternity??


If we can't use d scriptures to convince u,then use ur bible to convince us...........


If mary stayed a virgin till death,then it means Joseph too died a virgin....

Or mayb he commited adultery to cope with d fact that he had a wife bt culdnt sleep with her again becos she carried Jesus........


These dogma is whhy u guys worship mary,engage in idolatry.......


Rubbish!!!!!!

He mite just be 1 crazy bishop that side tracked....
These are d kinda bishops that also sanction gay marraige in d church....


1st of all d persons going to heaven have an assignment to carry out...

To rule as kings and priests in heaven alongside Jesus....

These are persons who r ®eady take up responsibilty,who already know there's a great task ahead of them.....

These r persons who are ready to follow Jesus where ever he goes....

How can an atheist who hates God,curses him, go to heaven??

To do what


When he or she to start with barely knows why d heavens was made and why persons will go there....


That bishop is sick...