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buzugee: when it says death is thrown into the lake of fire, it means when christ returns, spiritual death will be eradicated because you will all see the savior and will no longer need faith which is the barrier for a lot of people. a lot of people are in spiritual death because they have no faith. they cant believe what they cant see. that death will be thrown in the lake of fire. its a symbolic sentence

however there will be a physical lake of fire in babylon ( america )

Ptolomeus: Yes, many times it hurts someone who is a Christian allow the crimes he allows.
But it is a reality ... it is said Christian, attends church and the pastor not removing him, everyone knows he's a Christian ...
It really is a High class Christian ...
Christians should be proud to have a representative so famous.

Ptolomeus: Olaadegbu explained it clearly.
Only a blind man would not understand.
I've always said that Olaadegbu is one of the smartest people on the forum ...
Best wishes!

buzugee: you are in hell right now. you didnt know ? let me give you the transition of paradise ( heaven ) to hell. revelation 6 vs 4, job 9 vs 24 and romans 11 vs 11. those 3 chapters tell you when the changing of the guard from heaven to hell happened. so heaven and hell are conditions on earth. However the lake of fire is real. the lake of fire will only be in babylon ( america ). the cage of every vile and hateful bird in the world who made the whole world drunk with their philosophys ( democrazy ) and way of life ( anywhere you go in the world is americanized now ) and ruled the earth with terror ( you can ask libya and iraq and afghanistan they will tell ya how terrified they are ). everything i have written are biblical verses cuz i dont want to inundate this post with verses so i will write them out. so this is how america will be taken down according to the book of revelation and jeremiah and isaiah. the beast has 7 heads and 7 crowns on its 7 heads and 10 horns. the beast is the ancient roman empire which became the modern american empire ( this is their power base today. in ancient times the power base was in rome ) which which is in control of the world and has been in control of the world since the european rennaisance. their biblical names are really edomites. the 7 heads represent the 7 hills of rome. the 7 crowns means that the world will be ruled by edomites ( romans ) ( white people ) the 10 horns represent the offshoot of the roman empire which is the european countries that make up the european union. so if you read the book of revelation it says in that time, the 10 horns will turn on the beast and destroy it and will shoot arrows ( modern day missiles ) into babylon that will make peoples eyes melt in their socket, tongues melt in their mouth and skin disintegrate from their body ( this is thermonuclear missile heat ) and will turn babylon into a lake of fire. what this means is that americas destruction will come from the european countries all turning on america and destroying it with thermonuclear missiles. america is a land sorrounded by a body of water. when the land mass is engulfed in thermonuclear fire, if you take an aerial view of it, it looks like a lake of fire in the midst of waters. this is where the term LAKE OF FIRE is coined. so basically if you dont reside in america, you dont have to be worried about the lake of fire. the lake of fire is americas destruction in thermonuclear fire.

dorox: Though i am a christian, I personally do not believe hell is an everlasting place of fiery torture. One of the main attributes of the God i worship is justice, he is forever putting everything on a balanced scale, hence i cannot see how He will subject somebody to an eternity of torture for living an ungodly life of one lifetime. More so life is a gift that God gave to us without any precondition, it is eternal life that has a precondition (John3:16).
If you truly understand and believe in the existence of Hell fire, you will hate God for His injustice, detest your parents for bringing you to life and and refrain from having kids of your own.

alexleo: @Ijawkid,
there is nothing symbolic about hell. Hell is very real. Yes there is a realm called hell and that realm is in the spiritual thats why its a place for the spirit man just like heaven. If you say hell is symbolic it means heaven is also symbolic and God is symbolic and if that be the case why answer christians again. My brother dont be deceived by all these nonsense that the atheists has been posting here. Hell is real. Heaven is real. God is real and the creator of all human including the atheists and all things.

ea7: Why do pastor's only heal ilnesses that are not physical, why not a severed arm, a missing eye, using gods power to cause boko haram and al qaeda members to spontaneously combust. Why stop there, use god's power to shatter mount everest and use the debris to form the bible in the sky, who will doubt you? Why only undetectable miracles? something smells fishy here.

logicboy: He needs it to know which football team to support eg Chelsea FC for the champions league, while ignoring starving children in Africa

logicboy: God did not create anything. He just knows to take credit.

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Ptolomeus: I understand then, that everything is symbolic.
It is also symbolic hell, and satan is symbolic ... the Judeo-Christian god is also symbolic ...

italo: I'm not tryna convince d whole nairaland. I'm only doing dis for people who might b genuinely unsure, not for those who see d truth but deliberately refuse it.



Never! Why do you find it hard to believe that God didn't share a womb with any man?



You have to use logic sometimes because the Bible wasn't written in English and the historical and cultural context in which it was written is different from what we have here and now. We must take that into consideration sometimes.



Two of the so-called siblings of Jesus (James and Joseph)have been shown to be sons of another Mary. Did you miss that?



It does too... Stephen refered to members of the council as "brothers and fathers". Does it mean it was his brothers and fathers (in the literal sense) that stoned him to death?



Here goes the typical anti-Catholic lunacy. See how you interprete what we are doing.

Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

18 Mary Magdalene went to the disciples with the news: “I have seen the Lord!” And she told them that he had said these things to her.

Why did Mary go to the disciples when Jesus clearly said "brothers". Was she trying to say Jesus couldn't differentiate btw disciples and immediate siblings? That Jesus needed her help? Think!



What is there is that it didn't happen.



Unfortunately for you, even the Bible is part of Catholic doctrine. The Bible never said "Bible". It was the Catholic Church that created it and canonized it. Kill yourself if its too hard to take.

PAGAN 9JA:
shut up and look at the bigger picture. you know what does this show no matter how hard you try to christianize the people, they will still try to return to their old ways. it shows how spiritually dissatisfied the people are. ofcourse, the christians in this case are certainly going into extremes. .

Martian: Can you post the source? Master/slave is not the same as employer/employee.

musKeeto: Btw, u haven't replied this...

musKeeto: @Ijawkid: Having superiors is not the same as being a slave.... are you your dad's slave?

Martian: Wow. No, if you're employed, you get paid for your services and no one has any rights over you but if you are a slave, you belong to somebody. A slave is a piece of property with no rights.
I hope you're a teenager. I really do; because there is no way you are an adult with this kind of reasoning.

Martian: Wow. No, if you're employed, you get paid for your services and no one has any rights over you but if you are a slave, you belong to somebody. A slave is a piece of property with no rights.
I hope you're a teenager. I really do; because there is no way you are an adult with this kind of reasoning.

alexleo: shut up! You are not defending Jesus. From your reply above you sounded like a mumu who is just putting up a defence for someone he is not really convinced about but doing it out of compulsion You are just enjoying an argument. If you are not convinced of what you have been posting about Jesus then stop now. If also thats the case i hereby refer u to go and have a personal encounter with God just like i ve also refered the atheists here to do. I hope you are not among the people who are suffering from pastor-told-me syndrome because if you are, then you are a few steps to being an atheist if care is not taken.

Martian: Huh. No.

musKeeto: I didn't classify Jesus as a 'bigot'. I simply said that statement was derogatory. There's no way you can go round that.
Like I said earlier, if God was so 'accessible', there won't be any atheists... you do not give people freewill and expect them not to use them.

Martian: Your master.....some people were born to be slaves. Physically or mentally.

musKeeto: Whatever happened to that verse you guys love to quote? Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh right... why separate the statement from the action? If the woman hadn't pleaded, would Jesus have healed her? When a soldier tells you not to cross a blockade cus you're a 'bloody civilian', then lets to after you plead, would you call him a 'kind' man?

buzugee: Cornelius and the rest gentiles are now united to the jews under the law. so even though Jesus only died for the jews ? technically he only died for the gentiles because the jews already had the laws and his dying was so God can continue working through the jews to include the gentiles in the law and unite both jew and gentile. so it is a weird scenario in that even though he died for the jews, he really died for the gentiles.

the lost sheep of israel are today, the ten tribes that went to the americas after the assyrian captivity, whom were called the olmecs. these olmecs went on to produce the aztecs mayans native indians mexicans etc. anyone in south and central america with dark skin. then the remaining tribes journeyed into west africa and south africa to form the lemba, ashanti, igbo, yoruba, ewe, ga, fanti, and other tribes along the west coast of africa

well technically he was killed by the romans because they were in authority and rulership but sanctioned by the wicked pharisees and saducees who were israelites

not many of them listened to Jesus which is why they got cursed ( DEUTERONOMY 28 VS 15 -68 ) and lost custody and rulership of the earth to the gentiles ( romans 11 vs 11 ) ( lamentations 2 vs 1 )

the sameritan woman was an israelite

you are right, the lord now deals with the whole world both jew and gentiles ( THANKS TO jESUS SACRIFICE ON BEHALF OF THE GENTILES VIA THE JEWS )

yes through the Saviors blood the new convenant was instigated

the israel that is now bombing pakistani is the fake israel. they are written about in the bible ( revelation 2 vs 9 ) ( revelaation 3 vs 9 )

PHEW LOTS OF QUESTIONS

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