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Logicboy03: lol....you don turn TB Joshua wey dey heal "spiritual" problems abi?

Kennedyiheme: Dnt ask me why but i am tired of christianity,we claim to be highly spiritual, but nothing in our country is workin..im frustrated...this churches jst collect our money....if God created humans, then pls explain why the asians look alike nd we dnt, physics took its course abeg

Logicboy03: You suppose understand.......the cowardice of atheism.......shey I go come give u my personal details?

Logicboy03: Bros, wetin enter you today? You just dey fire me!



The bible made me an atheist....take it or leave it.

Logicboy03: E be like say Obadiah don put some fire in your bones.....


You! Ijawkid? You dey tackle me?


Anyways, it was the bible and slavery that made me an atheist. Evolition just came later and cemented me in atheism (not that belief in evolution makes one an atheist)

kambo: the book i read said "in the beginning God made the heavens and the earth", Gen1 vs 1.
you want to grab those hogwashes that try to tell me , nothing ,after a lot of scientific jargon,
and postulations and theorizing , produced something!!!
.
fact is none of the sceintists who makes these assumptions was there.
at a point , they have to base their theories on unfounded conclusions - on faith. faith
that excludes God.

There's nothing to teach.
nothing CANNOT create something.

ooman: this one no be fight, devil

carry your negative energy to hell

Logicboy03: Satan is afraid to work in London?

Logicboy03: See the puny brain? He thinks of atheism as a religion needing people to preach it to spread. It is natural...a natural state of mind


Nobody told me of atheism. I read the bible and became an atheist. Atheism can not be foreign to a society or country.

See how you christians keep insulting your ancestors like cursed fools? To say that there was no doubter of the oracles and the local gods among your ancestors is to actaully claim that your ancestors were very foolish in total.

bolaino: I wish u guys luck.

musKeeto: Bb group won't be bad.. The facebook groups I'm a part of are quite dull...

Meeting at people's houses? Hmm... That's a step too far... Unless there's someone willing to shoulder the security challenges amongst other implications...


I still don't know what to call myself. I hate tags.

Pygru: I chased him out of Nairaland!
Next:Ijawkid!

Billyonaire: You do not even have to punch for me to roll on the floor. There are esoteric items like ring that I understand when worn in the finger, one can slap an opponent and he/she will fall on the floor and faints.I do not doubt that. But I do not even need to get a ring to get you on the floor, I will simply use a secret word and you will be totally disarmed. I want to reiterate that I believe totally in Supra-natural Powers BUT Money Ritual is a SCAM and a MYTH from the PIT of LIES.

mazaje: Because there is evidence for nebulae, picture evidence taken by very powerful space telescopes. . .There is no no evidence to show that man was created from dust. . .You keep insisting the universe was created by a being, how did you came to that conclusion, where is that being located?. . .Why not many beings?. . .Why not a being that created ran away or is dead?. . .Why not chance?. . .

mazaje: Borther why do you keep talking like this?. . .The debris could NOT have been transported from another solar system because of the distance between them. . .We can see other solar systems as well, so we make conclusions based on that. . .

mazaje: Where were humans before the super nova explosion that give birth to our star?. . .Is that really a question?. . .na wah ohh. . .Ijawkid. . .

mazaje: There are evidence, crater made by asteriods are still found here on earth and the remnants of the asterods are still there around the deep crater that were formed. . .

mazaje: You keep insisting without providing any evidence. . .You sure say you no be the guy wey ezme say him see dey threaten aother woman dey speak ijaw any how. . .Don't insist provide evidence pls. . .

mazaje: Crater dey, video clip no dey. . .

mazaje: Shifting the goal post as usual. . .

mazaje: Hope you know that the human eye is not well formed , the way images are formed is not well organized, images are formed at the back of the retina, a rather poor process, as a result many can not even read what i am typing here on nairaland without their glasses. . .

mazaje: Its not a wish. it is happening, a meteorite(small astroid) hit Russia last month and killed some people, no be so? If a big one hits earth today all human life will end. . .Scientist are now trying to land on the big one that serve as a threat so that they can change their direction. . .

mazaje: This is what you call DNA?. . .You don go drink that ogogoro abi?. . .

mazaje: I am not going to talk about the ancient jews and their mythical narratives. . .

mazaje: You don't know this do you?. . .

mazaje: You keep saying it without givin any evidence, scientist are explaning with evidence how everything came about naturally. you keep insisting that everything has a super natural origin but have failed to provide any evidence. . .

Logicboy03: Well said....every minute they waste in prayer, nigeria gets worse


If you want change, be the change.


I will do my best to make nigeria a better place for my children

mazaje: I am not programmed to believe anything , that is why i said i do not believe in it, it sounds more plausible to me than accpeting that a man made god idea created men from sand and women from the ribs of a man. . .

mazaje: Seems you didn't understand what i was getting at, i was asking you a question. . .How can there be debris and obvious result of an explosion in our solar system yet our solar syatem isn't a result of an explosion as you claim?. . .The asteroids in our solar system are the left over materials from the super nova explaosion that gave birth to our solar system. . .The asteroids are just moving around aimlessly. . .

mazaje: Asteroids kill all the dinosours and can kill all humans on earth today if a sizeable one hits the earth. . .

mazaje: I don't know. . .I don't know why there is life on earth as I trold you but I believe that there is also life on other planets, since life exist here on earth which is also a planet. . .It is impossible to know as it stands now. . .

mazaje: We haven';t agreed on any point, I still maintain that our solar system is a result of an explosion , the left over materials from the explosion as still there all over the solar system. . .So your god wants to use asteroids to end the world, eh?. . .What wickedness was in the world when the asteroids, hit and killed off all the dinosours?. . .

mazaje: Now you have jumped into the realm of mythology, Adam and Eve? What am i to do with that jewish mythology?. . .How were the eyes of the mythical Adam and Eve operating before they ate of the fruit?. .Where were the imaged formed in their eyes before they ate the fruit?. . .Humans now live much longer than their ancestors, thanks to mordern science and how it has helped us to elongate our lives. . .Try studying about natural selection as well and see the explanation it offers for the things you have mentioed. . .I don't hold any position, but saying god means nothing, how did your god create the human brain, what process did he use and when exactly did he create the first humans?. . .

mazaje: The human body is not well designed, if humans have the ability to design other humans, they will do a much better job. . .So many of our ody parts are poorly designed, ut as usual you will come with the adam and eve mythical defence. . .

mazaje: The sun it self will eventually kill us all, with our without the ozone layer. . .The sun is growing big and will continue to grow. . .As it grows it will become hotter until it fries everything on earth. . .

mazaje: Why should i believe that it is a being, why not beings, what if the being created and is already dead or the beings created and ran away?. . .Why are you quoting the bible?. . .I can quote from better books that explain the universe much more than the bible. . .You talked about the DNA do the writers of the bible know anyting about DNA?. . .

mazaje: Brother , i said i don't know but i won't go about making things up as a result of my ignorance. . .

mazaje: How do you know that it is not as a result of chance?. . .

mazaje1: The first humans evolved from ape like creates. . .I don't believe in the theory of evolution but it makes some sense. . .Especially human evolution. . .It makes some sense to me. . .

mazaje1: What are you saying?. . .The cluster up to form new planets. . .There are many dwarf planets in our solar system that came about as a result of their collision. . .Our solar systen isn't a resuit of an explosion but there are debris that are as a result of an explosion all over our solar system?.. .What are you saying?. . .I asked you how the asteroid and comets that are just moving aimlessly all over our sloar system came about?. . .

mazaje1: Seas oceans and rivers?. . .What about diseases, earth quakes, asteroid falling into the earth etc that are always destrying life and the earth planet it self?. . .Who created those and for what purpose?. . .

mazaje1: Sure we can, as long as the distance of the planet is enough from the sun to support life. . .There is a very high possibility of life out there, it just impossible for us here on earth to know. . .

mazaje1: Intelligent designer?. . .Why not designers?. . . .The human body isn't intelligently designed because it has a lot of errors and faults. . .If human beings are to design a human they will do a better job. . .Our eyes for example are made so poorly that images are formed at the back of the retina as a result billions of us are born with some form of natural eye defect(long or shortsightedness) because of such poor design, an intelligent designer will not design the human eyes so poorly that images will be formed at the back of the retina. . .Our backs are poorly formed in such a way that most of us will have natural back pains because of the way or spinal disc are formed. . .If humans are to design the body they will do a much better job. . .Take a look at the universe, colliding asteroids, exploding stars. . .Even the universe is out to kill us as it stands, the sun supports life but it also destroys life, over time it will destroy all life on the planet. . .We can not live in space. . .Even the planet is just trying to kill us all the time. . .natural disasters all the time, an asteriod can hit the earth and all life will end. . .One came a lil close to the earth sometime last year. . .The universe doesn't look intelligently designed too many flaws and errors every where. . .We don't design our houses and cars to self explode by themselves. . .

mazaje1: the earth is a planet and it supports life. . .We know only about 5 percent of the universe. . .There are trillions of billions of planets in the universe, and only the ones in our solar system we can study and know if they have life on them, the rest are impossible for us to study and know. . .We can only see them with very powerful space telescopes like Kepler. . .We actually discovered that other planets orbit the stars about 12 years ago. . .before then we didn't even know that most of the stars are solar systems like our own. . .

mazaje1: We can see other solar system forming and we have not seen any creator guiding or using his hands to control anything. . .We just see natural forces at work. . .

mazaje1: They look random, because when we take a look at them we see mindless forces just doing their thing. . .Is a hurricane the product of intelligent design?. . .What about an earth quake?. . .Are asteroids intelligently designed?. . .

Logicboy03: lol...I am an atheist...


"The biggest mistake some christians make is that they truly believe that athests do not understand the bible"

Logicboy03: Jesus gave his life for me? Someone that died in the middle east 2000 years ago?

Did Jesus ever mention west Africa? Did Jesus heal anyone from West Africa when he was healing his middle eastern brothers?

When he died on the cross, did he say "Akpos, your oil bunkering is forgiven and you will receive amnesty"?

manmustwac: I remember there being a story in nairaland about a pastor who boko haram beheaded for refusing to accept islam

https://www.nairaland.com/307020/how-boko-haram-leader-beheaded

But as for me if faced in similar situation i can deny any religon, any faith i can even deny that am an atheist if i have to, life is more important and denying is survival instinct life to me is more important than wanting to die for what to be me are imaginary Gods.

musKeeto: Thank God I have no God.

Boss..

mazaje1: I don't believe in evolution, i said some how agree with evolution because it has provided some evidence that humans evolved. . It might be tenous but all the same it makes some sense. . .DNA sequencing, has done that already. . .It is actually the reason why many theist accept evolution in Europe and America. . . .If all humans came from one man and one woman, DNA can be used to trace it. . . .

mazaje1: Then how do you explain the debris scattered all over the solar system?. . .Asteriods and comets and other floating bodies that are scattered all over the solar system orbiting the sun aimlessly and causing destruction came about because of what?. . .What accounts for the debris all over our solar system?. . .Its very clear that they are left over materials from the explaosion that gave birth to our solar system. . .Comets have water in theÉm. and they brought water to the planet. In fact, they are just rock, dust, water ice, and frozen gases. . .They have landed into the earth and have been studied. . .

mazaje1: Because many solar systems have just one sun. . .many solar systems created after a super nova have only one sun. . .There pictures from hubble and other space observatories are all over the net showing these things. . .

mazaje1: They said we evolved. . .They have been able to provide some evidence even though i do not find it convincing. ..Where is the evidence that some god spoke birds into life using the hebrew language?. . .

mazaje1: I just believe and it is possible that my belief is false, but based on the fact that we have billions of trillions of planets its possible that life will exist on some of them since life exist on earth which is also a planet. . .It is impossible for humans to know if other planets have life in them..they are too far away. . .We can only see them through very powerful telescopes that are in placed space. . .We can never know cos its impossible to know

mazaje1: I don't know but its possible that chance created them. . .Just as chance and mindless forces creater hurricanes, rainbow and heavy storms. . .

mazaje1: By humans, who else?. . .I think I some what agree with evolution here. . .that humans evolved gradually over time because DNA sequencing agrees with that, it shows that morden day humans can trace their ancestry to a group of humans that lived in africa about 200,000 thousand years ago. . .

mazaje1: False, our own solar system came about as a result of an explosion, the resulting left over from the explosion still remain and are orbiting the sun. . .The asteriods and coments are the left over materials from the super nova explosion, that gave birth to our solar system, they are just orbiting aimlessly round the sun, colliding with earth other and forming dwarf planets, many are also colliding with other planets as well. . .

mazaje1: really?. . .Why not for the dinosours that lived for millions of years before us?. . .

mazaje1: I don't know. . .

mazaje1: There are billions of trillions of planets out there in the universe, so its VERY possible that there is life out there, we just can not know because it is impossible for us to know. . .if life is out there which i believe there is, then why are they also there?. . .

mazaje1: What is this? shifting the goal post again. . .I just wanted to show you that comparing the earth and what happens inside it with a very different environment like space is just ludacrious. . .They are not the same. . .if explosions destroy things here on earth it doesn't mean it will destroy things outside in speace so the environment and conditions are very different..they are not the same. . .Grains of salt behave very differently here on earth and in space. . .life does the same to. .It survies here but will not survive there. . .

mazaje1: The first humans that existed were given birth to . . .Sure, not all stars were formed by explosive process, but many stars were formed that way. . .I was just trying to counter Freksy's point that explosion can not result to order . . .

mazaje1: How do you know this?. . .There could be life on other planets out there from other stars that were born from explosive processes, we just do not have the ability to know if there is life on other planets that orbit other distant stars out there for now. . . .

mazaje1: The earth is very different from space, the conditions here on earth allows you to walk and not to be in a weightless condition. . .Here on earth when you throw something up it must come down, but out there is space it will keep going up and never come down. . .The envirments are vert different, life can survive here on earth but life can not survive out there is space for more than 120 seconds on average . . .Your entire body will just disintegrate . . .The conditions here on earth are very different from what is out there in space. . .I told you about a NASA scientist that put some grains of salt together in a glass bottle out there in space in the international space center and the grains of salt clumped together and formed a round like ball . ..Here on earth when you put salt in a glass bottle you particles act very differently. . .Out there in space is not a the earth and as such comparing events that happen here on earth to what happens out there is a dumb thing to do. . .

mazaje1: Na so

mazaje1: Brother no be scam, if you are serious and not LYING as usual, take up the challange you will win a million dollars, if you can bring any body that will be shot at without the bullet penetrating into his body . . .I will come to naija and will shot who ever you bring. . .If the bullet does not penetrate I PROMISE to give 10,000 euros and be shot at as well. . .I am NOT kidding. . .The only condition I will place is that I will use my own gun . . . .

mazaje1: Sure, it doesn't matter what evidence you have been given, the need to believe is there so you must satisfy it because you have built your views round it and you are truly convicted. . .Here is one of my post on another thread where we had a similar discussion. I actually wasted my time and money on this juju nonsense with a friend here that believes in it but after it failed he still refused to believe that juju does not work. Here it is. . . .

I have this friend here that completely believes in juju. . .The guy seriously dislikes me for my unbelief, you know how it is when you were a believer and someone tells you things like god does not exist or that satan and juju do not exist, you know the kind of feeling you will get, the kind of feeling of great surprise and disgust, the kind of feeling that goes like this " why should some one talk like this" or "what is this fool saying about god not existing or Satan is not real and juju is a myth"? I bet you all know the kind of feeling, cos we were once all there before . . .It will sound completely stupidddd and senseless to you when some one tells you he does not believe in god or some of the many things you strongly believe in. things you have been condition and indoctrinated to believe are real. . .I didn't tell the guy that I do not believe in god, just told him that I do not believe in juju, because he is so ignorantly blind and TOO superstitious. We had a deal, he told me that I have not meet the right juju that is why i am blabbing and he vowed to go to Nigeria and get a very good juju for me that will work, he was SO CONFIDENT. He told me the usual stories about how he saw people doing this and that and how he used juju as a cultist in the university to do so many things in Nigeria. He told me that he has used juju himself and told me how his father and his grand father were great juju men, told me how he gave his friends and relatives juju to use, according to him some even took the juju to Europe and US, he said they did so many things with the juju, got riches. got women, got favors bla bla bla . . . .Told me that yahoo boys come to him and he takes them to the baba who gives them the "do as I say juju" so that what ever they tell their mugu the mugu will obey without complains bla bla bla. . .

We had a deal, I bought a return ticket for him. The deal was for him to go and bring the otomopkoh(juju) as he calls it(He is yoruba). We will go to one of the casinos and use it because he claimed his relatives in italy have used it to make big money through gambling there(he has always wanted to go to naija get the juju and raid all the casinos ), he also claimed he will come with the "do as I say juju" as well, he will tell people to give him money and they will obey without question, he was so CONFIDENT. He vowed to enter a bank, meet the cashier or manager and tell them to give him money, he vowed that who ever he meets in the bank will give him money without questioning him once he uses the do as I say juju. . .He swore heaven and earth that his juju is 100%, he claimed it belongs to their village bla bla bla and cost only 50 thousand naira. . .It was so serious that I just had to engage him out of anger and give him the money. . .He went to Nigeria came back with the juju and showed me. We went to the casino in Aalborg. As usual it failed. . .He placed 20 euros and lost, placed another 20 and lost. He tired 5 times in total and lost 100 euros. . .He was genuinely shocked. The next day we went and tried again, he won 180 euros initially but still lost all the money after a few tries. . .

He tried the do as I say on one woman and received the embarrassment of his life. . .But he STILL believes in juju. . .He still does NOT want to believe that juju does NOT work. . .I am VERY serious. . .He still believes that juju is real. . .After wasting my money. . .The stupidddd fooooool still holds unto his mythical juju belief. . .I am still fixated on this juju nonsense. . .Belief is actually stronger than I thought it was. . .You can HARDLY make some one change his/her beliefs. . .This guy saw his juju fail him despite his TOTAL confidence and belief in juju but still find ways to either blame himself or the juju man that gave him the juju, forgetting that he swore heaven and earth to me of how the man's juju has been tried and tested by him before which actually is not true. . .He just heard stories but was telling me that he saw it, he took people there and it worked for them, he said it worked for him too bla bla bla. . .Belief is a very strong thing. . .I am way past all these endless stories, if you make a claim just prove it else shut up. . .

Logicboy03: [size=18pt]Abeg ooo


Majaze, Holla at me when you are in Naija.



I would personally love to shoot Ijawkid in the forehead. The end result will be the death of the nonsense supernatural belief and the useless brainwashed believer. [/size]

All these goats claiming bulletproof jazz, yet are not ready to prove it in real life

mazaje1: We don't have the image of how our solar system came about but we can see how other solar systems are forming. . .We can also make calculated deductions from what we see around. . .Take a look at our solar system. . .Where do you take all the asteriods and comets came from?. . .they are obviously a result of the left over materials from super nova explosion that formed our solar system. . .

mazaje1: Who told you that the universe must behave like the human society?. . .

mazaje1: WHO?

mazaje1: What is this?. . .Google the images of nebulae taken by the hubble space telescope, you will see that is is obviously an explosion. . .Dust every where, and new stars every where as well. . .You can ever see it from their brighness that they are not so bright. . .The images speak for themselves. . .How the supanova explosion gives rise to new stars is not yet know, even though so many theories are being floated around, but we know that new stars arise after a super nova explaosion, there are way to many pictures taken by hubble. . .

mazaje1: Stars are formed after a super nova explosion. . .The debris and dust come together after many many years to form planets. . .Through collision under the force of gravity. . .An american scietist tried the experiment with grains of salt in outer space, in the international space center. . .he put many gains of salt in a glass bottle, and they all came together and formed a round ball. . .The videos are on youtube

mazaje1: Who is talking about the origin of the universe, you keep shifting the goal post. . .I was just trying to show Freksy,that explosions do bring about order, since our own solar system came about as a result of the explosion of another star. . .

mazaje1: What is this?. . .Scientist have shown images, what have you guys shown?. . .Writings of primitive men that thought the earth was made before the sun?. . .