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PoliticsRe: Ahmad Sani Yerima Disgraces Nigeria -BBC Report (example child bride pic posted) by illusion2: 6:30pm On May 02, 2010
[quote author=Me_Aboki link=topic=438382.msg5985968#msg5985968 date=1272797902]If you can't see the connection then I am really sorry for you ( and he talks of the aboki way of thinking - what arrogance).
Well, let me make it simpler for you.
No, I am not justifying Yarima's action but merely pointing out to those who attacked him (naija-doll, Bongo-man, Purest Boy et al) based on his religion that their religion too is not any better on the issue.

Think hard,don't let babaric,pre-historic arab practices delude you.

And by the way,  Lets stop justifying nonsense in the name of religion/arab culture.

Again, are you not being just as myopic and religiously biased  as the people I have already mentioned?
Pre-historic/barbaric , ? I guess you have not been deluded by the christian value system that permits such babaric act in the Vatican City in this modern day and age.

Kindly ask the Pope to be responsible enough to expunge such babaric Christian law from his rule book , if you will please. After that you can feel free to stand on the moral high ground to criticise other religion and culture.[/quote]Me_Aboki (by the way the 'aboki thinking ' statement is just a joke) you are making some false assumptions.

1. All the mentioned are not necessarily catholics or christians

2. How the vatican has an age of consent beats me ,since majority of the inhabitants are bound by the oath of celibacy ,probably its for the saudi embassy there  tongue

3. Marrying off young girls follows the example of the holy prophet Mohammed(hence islamic & arabic connotations),adequate mention of the outset of menstruation being the rite of passage to womanhood is well documented in the Koran & Hadiths.

However,despite your reference to the vatican,no such laws exist in the Christian Bible.

4. You posted earlier that its better Alhaji Yerima marries the 13 year-old rather than the girl having boyfriends,getting pregnant & having abortion. . . .another false choice,because people can have accidents in cars doesn't mean we should all stick to walking to our destinations. Girls can grow up to become women and marry as virgins w/out the inherent danger of being forced to marry to dirty grandfathers.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 9:09am On May 02, 2010
RuuDie:
Pls b4 una crucify Rafa finish. . . . jus give d man small allowance 2 fall chelsea hand dis afternoon abegi - pls, biko. . . we need all of u 2 support him, if only jus 4 dis afternoon grin grin grin
sorry to disappoint you. . .we are losing this game 0-1 ,so MANURe can be denied the title. Simple as ABC

On the new signing from Charlton,it seems the backroom guys at Anfield are just coming to their senses,now they are trying to prop-up the English/british talent at the club.

This is probably being spearheaded by Daglish,I don't know .bu that is the case,cos. . . the spanish players are largely more loyal to Rafa than the club. Further indication IMO that he's leaving at the end of this season.

@bgees,the club is greater than any individual,expectations are high ,belief exisits. . . . anyone that can't deliver should go. . . .
PoliticsRe: Ahmad Sani Yerima Disgraces Nigeria -BBC Report (example child bride pic posted) by illusion2: 8:35am On May 02, 2010
@Me_Aboki,you are really thinking like an aboki,what has age of consent in Vatican got to do with an irresponsible senator marrying a 13 year-old ? undecided

Are you trying to justify his action? Can you give away your own 13 year old daughter to a 50 somethng year old man who recently divorced his previous teeenage daughter & has 3 other 'mature' wives? Can you reason at all?

Luqhas:
@frosbel, you are an ignoramus. You and your supporters as well as the so human right activist go to cranies of this country to see the rate at which illegal pregnancy is prevalent among the teens. A married you are all ranting and raving about it.
[size=15pt]If your fear is to prevent your muslim girls from having boyfriends & getting pregnant outside marriage/having abortions- whatever happened to parental responsibility and proper home training. Why adopt the easy way out?[/size]

Every parent prays and works towards their daughters keeping themselves from engaging in illicit intimacy,but marrying her off to old men is not the solution my friend.

As in the recently divorced (imagine a teenager already divorced)wife of Sani Yerima (he married her when she was 15 in 2006),is her life better of now? She's 19,with a baby,divorced & probably has VVF,  . . is this better for her?

Think hard,don't let babaric,pre-historic arab practices delude you.

And by the way,if he's intimacy starved,what happened to his other wives?  Lets stop justifying nonsense in the name of religion/arab culture.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Have To Take A Break After Six Days Of Actively Creating The World? by illusion2: 8:17pm On May 01, 2010
suleiman16:
Don't mind that religion called chirstianity, they always give human attribute to God, is he like us whose after long working hour we need to rest, i just pray it wont be too late when the truth will come.
Sule,what does the religion Islam say about this day of rest. . . undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 7:53pm On May 01, 2010
dayokanu:
Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez looks to be on the verge of confirming his switch to Juventus

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=779894&sec=england&cc=5901
Good riddance to bad rubbish. . . at least we won't have to give him severence pay cheesy

Its best he moves now so we can plan for next season. . . . we are a great club with deep history.

One fat spainard won't change that fact.
PoliticsRe: Customs Seizes Crate Of Army Uniform At Lagos Airport. by illusion2: 7:22pm On May 01, 2010
Nothing will come out of this. . . . . .this is Nigeria sad
PoliticsRe: Soyinka And Tinubu Shun Oshiomhole's One-Man-One-Vote Rally In Benin City! by illusion2: 9:19am On May 01, 2010
I'm really surprised people can even criticise Adams. . . tell me who would you prefer -Anenih or Igbinedion?
Christianity EtcRe: They Should Heal The Sick In Hospitals by illusion2: 11:25pm On Apr 30, 2010
Joagbaje:
@ poster,
some people do go to hospitals and prisons to minister there, are you not aware. But a pastor's primary call is his sheep. A person must have faith to recieve healing. Jesus often ask if people believe he could heal them.
Mar 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things [are] possible to him that believeth
.
Those who believe in God will go to the house of God.People go to hospital because their faith is there.but many atimes they go to God when doctors have failed them.
Jesus never went to hospitals , but when the hospital people get tired and dissapointed, they go to God.
Luk 8:43
And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any, Came behind [him], and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched.

so read your bible well before attacking the church.
I feel we are always prepared with an answer for things we do not know !

If a pastor decides to go to a hospital tomorrow & everyone gets healed,you will come up with another explanation.

Whatever happened to - I DON'T KNOW !

Many things that have to do with the spiritual cannot be explained,so we shouldn't even try . . . . . . . . .
PoliticsRe: Soyinka And Tinubu Shun Oshiomhole's One-Man-One-Vote Rally In Benin City! by illusion2: 11:02pm On Apr 30, 2010
SeXyBoNE:
lol
I knew Oshiomole was going to fail woefuly. upon all the mouth wey im don make. rubbish
This is the problem with Nigerians. . . ,  . . . . .perennial cynics. angry

No one wants to put their neck on the line, but complain they can .

Call a demonstration to protest the situation in the country,they'll excuse themselves. 

Oshiomole has put his neck on the line  in the past ,when he could have conveniently stayed away. He should be prayed for and supported . . not crass cynicism from people who have absolutely nothing to offer.
PoliticsRe: Soyinka And Tinubu Shun Oshiomhole's One-Man-One-Vote Rally In Benin City! by illusion2: 7:25pm On Apr 30, 2010
PapaBrowne:
^^^^^
Sorry to disappoint you, but Oshiomole might not be the man you think he is.
If he really is a man of the people why did he fight vehemently to prevent Jonathan form being declared as acting president.
Supply proof. Right now its just hearsay. . . . To assume one minority gov from a minority party would/can influence who becomes president of Nigeria may be stretching the imagination.
PoliticsRe: Soyinka And Tinubu Shun Oshiomhole's One-Man-One-Vote Rally In Benin City! by illusion2: 6:43pm On Apr 30, 2010
Another conspiracy theory gone sour.

So were Kenyamo & other PDP govs there to declare for IBB as well ?  undecided

Goodluck Jonathan & David Mark were equally invited ,so what is AC's stress? The rally was about one-man ,one-vote. . .the more high profile people there ,the more attention the event would receive.

IMO,Kenyamo did what everyone else should have done -use the opportunity to embarass the 'evil genius'.

[size=18pt]Oshiomole will always be a hero of the masses. People know this & will always remember,lets not fall for cheap blackmail. . . . the man's antecedents definitely precedes him.[/size]
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 4:28pm On Apr 30, 2010
bgees:
illusion2, u are sounding like a scummie.
Honestly nothing matters anymore. . . . .the guy has screwed the club from all entry points & I can't see him in any good light.
PoliticsRe: Ahmad Sani Yerima Disgraces Nigeria -BBC Report (example child bride pic posted) by illusion2: 12:22pm On Apr 30, 2010
He married a 15 year old in 2006, divorced her in 2010 to marry the new '13 year old' Egyptian. shocked shocked shocked

Its a shame on our country.

Arabs have updated their laws to reflect modern ways of doing things ,but horrible people like Yerima ,who by the way has 3 other Nigerian wives aged between 35-45 one of whom is a medical doctor ,will always try to take us back.

In a state with 60% poverty,all the greedy man desires in life is to sleep with young girls every few years. . . .

I'm sorry for Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Babangida Will Become President Again - Prophet by illusion2: 11:58am On Apr 30, 2010
The prophet is on the payroll of imo gov-ikedi Ohakim. . ,

When OBJ was brought into the fray in 1999,we all felt he would use all the experience as a former head of State to set us back on the right path,but that never happened.

So this above reason- being touted the 'evil genius' really holds no water.

He(IBB) obviously underestimates the mood of the country,but he'll be shocked.

The recent embarrassment in Edo state is only the beginning.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 11:35am On Apr 30, 2010
Chelsea needs to win this game by just 1 goal to deny MANURE their 19th title & so it'll be tongue


[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=94662.msg5974100#msg5974100 date=1272577592]No disrespect to Spaniards. . . .
Benitez's moniker in England is FSW(Fat Spanish Waiter).[/quote]More like Fat Spanish Wan.ker ! lol!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fabregas Has Dracula Dentition by illusion2(op): 12:21am On Apr 30, 2010
undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 10:40pm On Apr 29, 2010
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=94662.msg5974029#msg5974029 date=1272577071]Liverpool are SHYTE!!!!
About fuckin time they sack Rafa Beneath-Us.
The Fat Spanish waiter cannot even get to the Europa Final. . . . . .What a disgrace!!![/quote]don't worry. . .we are sending him to MANURE grin grin grin


dayokanu:
Now Pathetico Madrid makes the final

What a season for Liverpool
Really unbelievable play ! We couldn't seal the win against a pathetic side cry cry
PoliticsRe: Yarima: My Wife Is Not 13, He Strives Hard To Be Guided By The Holy Qur'an by illusion2: 9:36pm On Apr 29, 2010
[quote author=Me_Aboki link=topic=438601.msg5973319#msg5973319 date=1272568997]FYI, if Yerima were a christian and was at the Vatican, the reknown nation and head quarter of christianity, he would most probably have had the blessing of the Pope for his actions; considering the fact that the age of sexual consent is only 12 at the Vatican(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe ).

Accordingly, Yerima's alleged bride at 13 is even over aged for the Vatican.
As for child abuse, need I have to say catholic priests and the Pope (for covering up for them)?[/quote]What has age of consent at the vatican got to do with a senator of the Nigerian federation marrying a 13 year old egyptian. ? undecided

The fact that he can even open his mouth & say "my wife". . . is absolutely disgusting !!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 9:13pm On Apr 29, 2010
51 minutes:
Yes ! We need 2 more goals to make it safe however
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by illusion2: 9:06pm On Apr 29, 2010
ifyalways:
@Illusion so whats happening in your ends?u a convert yet or u still have doubts and questions?
Conversion is not possible,like I have said . . .I have my doubts on the foundation of Islamic theology.

However,I am much more open/understanding & respectful of genuine muslims & I can now largely differentiate from actual Islamic obligations and cultural inferences(e.g Zamfara senator marrying a 13 year old ).

What about you? Are you getting married to an Alhaji? undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Barca's Dirty Tricks ! by illusion2(op): 4:55pm On Apr 29, 2010
Yea !
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Barca's Dirty Tricks ! by illusion2(op): 7:28am On Apr 29, 2010
Did they really need to go this far ? undecided

Spraying the pitch while the Inter players were still on it as well as Victor Valdes manhandling of the 'Special One' lives much more to be desired . . . .


[center]Wednesday, April 28, 2010
Jubilant Mourinho salutes his team of heroes [/center]


A triumphant Jose Mourinho blasted Barcelona for a "lack of fair play, on or off the pitch" after he guided Inter Milan to their first European Cup final since 1972.

Barca won the game 1-0 but it wasn't enough to overturn Inter's 3-1 advantage from the first leg. Mourinho galloped onto the pitch at full time to celebrate with Inter's fans and was involved in a fracas with Barca goalkeeper Victor Valdes, but after leaving the field he accused Barcelona of unfair play.

"Leo Messi is Messi. An incredible talent, from another galaxy, but like all the others he didn't play to his strengths. That should be quality and fair play, but I saw none of it on or off the pitch," Mourinho told RAI. "At 4am we couldn't sleep, as there were fireworks outside the hotel door. We called the police at 11pm and they arrived at 3.30am. A player like Samuel Eto'o who comes back here every few days was harassed by police today when told he had to pay taxes not paid in 2005."

Mourinho also expressed his displeasure at Thiago Motta's red card in the first half. "I can make a guarantee, that next year I'll be back. I always seem to end up being paired with Barcelona and every time something happens,'' he said. "Thiago Motta's card was the same as that for Didier Drogba. Unfortunately Motta lost his cool for a second. I said nothing to him at half-time. I spoke to the rest of the team to explain how they should play and adapt.
Foreign AffairsRe: Nick Clegg Does Not Believe In God ! by illusion2(op): 7:06am On Apr 29, 2010
ElRazur:
Also, tell me if am wrong, ain't you one of those folks who post conspiracy theory-like threads?
Now I know you really have nothing to say on my posting history and ideas. . . . . . I'm always at the forefront of debunking conspiracies . . . ask ROSSIKE & his ilk tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: Nick Clegg Does Not Believe In God ! by illusion2(op): 5:36pm On Apr 28, 2010
ElRazur:
@illusion 2. Your main purpose of making this thread is for what reason. smiley

Answer that and we may start from there. smiley
Reason: To have an intellectual discussion among reasonable NLers on the relevance of belief in God on an aspiring political leader's outlook on life.  smiley

snowdrops:
Well i am not sure about that.
Well I Am sure about this. . . kiss
Foreign AffairsRe: Nick Clegg Does Not Believe In God ! by illusion2(op): 5:57am On Apr 28, 2010
oyb:
insert chimaroke nnamani quote - "to God be the glory - enugu is working "
Lol !

@ElRazur. . . . .I'm waiting for your response. . .
Foreign AffairsRe: Nick Clegg Does Not Believe In God ! by illusion2(op): 1:14pm On Apr 27, 2010
ElRazur:
Sorry, but given your posting history and ideas, I refuse to take you serious. Lib dem gets my vote. Thanks. smiley
Eh ?  undecided What in my posting history & ideas has got you worked up ? Please expantiate  smiley

snowdrops:
Apart from Gordon Brown who is a catholic i believe the other two main candidates are men of "little or no [religiuos] faith".
Brown isn't catholic. . .he's presbyterian (Church of Scotland)
Foreign AffairsRe: Nick Clegg Does Not Believe In God ! by illusion2(op): 7:39am On Apr 27, 2010
A vote for Libs or Greens is an indirect vote for Labour. . . cos the neo-Conserves will come up short in a hung parliament.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Rafa Benitez to Succeed Sir Alex Chapman Ferguson? by illusion2(op): 8:08pm On Apr 26, 2010
dayokanu:
Bliss? They are our LovePeddler, we always screw them everytime save for 2 mins in 1999
Yepa ! Sauron mustn't read this. . .
Foreign AffairsRe: Nick Clegg Does Not Believe In God ! by illusion2(op): 4:12pm On Apr 26, 2010
Its kinda scary coming from a 'christian' country undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Rafa Benitez to Succeed Sir Alex Chapman Ferguson? by illusion2(op): 4:12pm On Apr 26, 2010
^^^Sad indeed cheesy

I'm sure you had many days of absolute bliss when Munich beat MANURE grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 6:13am On Apr 26, 2010
^^I say we dash Chelski this game. . . . .our legacy's at stake here ,not just some ego trip.

0-1 to Chelsea is enough,they clinch the title,MANURE should be satisfied with their carling cup tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 6:53pm On Apr 25, 2010
Yes,we need to beat ATH on Thursday !

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