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LucemFerre:
Morality, spirituality... What is this one saying?
At least Google the definitions first before commenting

i did sir, they're not the same. i guess it is time to turn the barrel at yourself, what is this one saying?

What is the value of morality without spirituality? Who determines what is moral or not? Therein lies the answers to your question.

deomelo:
See nollywood boring story.


According to the NYSC, it's on record that she applied to be exempted.

i don't suggest otherwise. It's like applying for road worthiness certificate for your vehicle. You don't even need to appear, neither does your vehicle. Just bring money and details, you'd get it in 24hrs. Same way, she can have asked for exemption certificate and be given with one or two calls from one big person in government. In such case, it's not forged. it's nysc that didn't carry out their job properly and are now stalling.

HardMirror:
Prayers & Meditation: Big Advantage Religious folks have over Atheists

First note that I am an Atheist. I totally dont believe in God, but i was once a christian and even a church leader for several years.

I have been an atheist now for about 6years and i believe i have enough experience to know what is lacking in both.

It may shock my Atheist colleagues if i tell them they are at disadvantage because they do not pray and meditate
Yes! You read that right! Christians and muslims most especially have a big advantage in life over most other people if they pray and meditate regularly.

Why?
1. Prayers Works! I have seen people get better because of prayers. When i was a christian, i saw many people recover faster through prayers. I saw depressed people pull through because of prayers. Even scientists have conducted researches to understand why prayers work for ill people. That is works does not mean god answers prayers, it works because these people have a belief. Belief helps put you in a mental state that deals with stress and releases the hormones needed for quick healing. There is a strong link between your mental state and your physiological being. Why do i say it has nothing to do with god? Because all prayers regardless of religion has the same effect. And alternatives to prayers to God work as well.

2. Prayers strengthen relationships " the family that prays together stays together". This statement is true. Those who pray together and for one another tend to maintain a strong bond. When you have people who constantly pray for you, you can be sure you mean a lot to them. Unfortunately this has also been used to exploit a lot of emotional people especially women. Have you ever wondered why women are victims to religion based scams especially in the church?

3. Improves your outlook praying every morning can make you more productive. I realize that when i prayed in the morning i always go out with lots of energy and enthusiasm. This is a good thing for those who pray and believe God to go through the day with them.

it helps cultivate a disciplined life when you pray with sincerity and regularly about habits that makes you unproductive, you are very likely to cut such habits off.

Note: this thread is not to convert anyone or endorse religion. I am only stating facts. I am an atheist and i dont pray. So what should an atheist do?

All atheist should learn to meditate. Make meditation an habit. Learn to stay quiet or should i say have your 'Quiet time' everyday both early in the morning and late at night when no one would disturb you.

Secondly, you should learn to speak positive things about yourself, business, family and all. Speak those things called positive confessions, if you believe them, it wld improve your mental state and that of those you speak them to. Tell your children positive things. Call them and tell them they would be great. Words make a lot of difference.

Note! Christians who spend their time praying against enemies and demons dont enjoy these benefits. Their lives are usually dark and pitiable, they are never victorious. Prayers i am talking about is the type you see churches like believers love world pray.

Also note that prayers without works is dead. Prayers itself dont work, they only help position your mind correctly. So it is wisdom when you know even the bible says prayers without works is dead.


Thank you.

Hardmirror

Lol, see this confused fellow is preaching "New Age" to people. Well, to the devil, it's the same thing. All other ways are his, Jesus is the ONLY way.

Jointhemiltons2:
If they had exemption letter then fine but if they don’t then all of them are fraud

I think Adeosun may be suffering from the cost of due diligence. Trust Nigeria, when she was to become commissioner, someone must have helped her get a certificate of exemption at NYSC. It's just a call or two away. It's like getting driver's license or Road worthiness certificate. Just fill in the details on the certificate and collect money.

Hardlife:
i cant even tell anybody my situation. I cant stand The look of disappointment on their faces but i want to quit.

You must be genuinely born again, that's all.

i'm 95% sure he was an atheist, that's their way.

HardMirror:
what part of "how many of your ceremonies and parties do u invite only the poor" dont you understand

There you go again trying to mirror/mimic me without being original. i understand every part of your question and I have responded by stating that we don't(or for better simpler understanding), i don't do my alms to be seen by people like you.

HardMirror:
and then jesus must be stvpid to ask you to invite poor people to your birthdays, weddings, launcheons etc instead of gathering friends right?

What part of "we don't do our alms to be seen by confused people." don't you understand?

HardMirror:
Lol. So far have u answered my question?

Yes, you sure must have read me say "we don't do our alms to be seen by confused people."

CAPSLOCKED:
EXPLAIN: 1. JUNGLE JUSTICE. 2. RITUAL AND CULT KILLINGS.

Christians don't engage in such practices, stop derailing.

HardMirror:
i guess you are wiser than jesus that asks you to do this right? Lol.

I see you still can't read properly.

HardMirror:
Luke 14:12-14 New International Version (NIV)

12 Then Jesus said to his host, “When you give a luncheon or dinner, do not invite your friends, your brothers or sisters, your relatives, or your rich neighbors; if you do, they may invite you back and so you will be repaid. 13 But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, 14 and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”

This is an express command from Jesus christ himself, it is not a metaphor, this is clear and express. Jesus did not mix words here. Yet it is a commandment almost no christian practices. Why?

since i was born till date, i have Never seen a christian practice this

James 1:27 New International Version (NIV)

27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

These are obviously more important commandments than tithing that was never commanded in the new testament and yet christians have failed to practice this while donating to the building of mega churches, buying of unnecessary worldly possessions all with the excuse that jesus rode on a borrowed donkey and jesus was never poor.

It is time we question if we truely have a heart or just serving God for money

We don't do our alms to be seen by confused people.

GeeStaff:
From what I've gathered, it seems we're just gonna be singing and clapping.

Food won't be available... spirits don't eat.
No cars or luxurious homes. Spirits don't sleep neither do they need transportation.

From a logical perspective, what makes heaven so exciting?

Is earth boring?

There has to be repentance whether you are conscious or unconscious. Children of God don't commit sin.

Good to hear. However, questions should be asked too. This work was captured in 2017 budget. Captured yet again in 2018 and will now last 2.5years. Why can't it be done in 6months?

Goodness4525:
The most annoying pat of all this matter is that,there is nothing like religion or denomination in heaven All this religious issue are just man made inventory to control the mind of people of a given cultural background

It irritates me when some Christians religious bigot will utter crap like being Christians is the only means to access heaven. ,,,,, pls, God knows no shit about ur religious diversity,,, only interested in ur moral, so Isomeone should tell those religious fanatics out there to reason logically and not ignorantly

This is ignorance, only Jesus Christ can save. No other way, sorry. Be safe.

Where can it be received, let's go and bomb the place.

Trenton:
please if you claim to be in direct contact with jehovah as many pastors.prophets ，often reveal outcomes of their personal contact with jehovah，
i have one task for u. y not take advantage of this opportunity of speaking to the creator .by asking god vital info like his origin.where he was before creation.ask things that are not general.knowledge to.man. so that we can learn more about the creator

How is it vital information? What have you done with the little knowledge you already have of God? Have you repented?

Yeah, nothing like human being self, imagine.

dalaman:
To understand or reinterpretate what was written ? Despite all these meetings how many have solved the tithing problems that is causing confusion amines Christians? How have these meetings solved the problem of speaking in tongues and many other doctrinal and other misunderstanding that hashe plagues Christianity today? Ogbeni you have no faith that is why you are trying to reinvent what was stated.

Those that know know, while those who keep knocking their heads against the wall like you keep it up. My faith has made me whole. Yours has frustrated you for years. The disciples and apostles didn't "get it" like you, keep deceiving yourself or repent.

dalaman:
Jesus told him nothing will be impossible for him. He decided to exercise that believe. You lack that belief as such you keep trying to reinvent what was written because you know it's a lie.

Oh yeah that's why true believers meet every Sunday and more on others days of the week to understand what Jesus said and receive revelation. You would help yourself to be like them and have a chance at understanding and save a perishing soul.

dalaman:
The guy in the video did what Jesus told him he'll be able to do, which is false.

You know that Jesus lied and you are just trying to reinterpret and give meaning to his false promise. Biblical heros were are told even stopped the sun from moving and were able to part the sea using a rod among other incredible feat. Even Jesus did so many incredible wonders and promised those that believe in him the ability to do more than he did if only the believe in him. You know it's a lie that's why you are always go in shameless excuses.

Jesus didn't tell anyone to order people around, in fact, it is the other way round, what He preached. What your hero did has no biblical base or resemblance. Face the truth, stop being shy, you can repent. Jesus lied and blah blah blah but you spend years trying to convince yourself and others so gullible on that. You'd simply die if you stopped mentioning the name i suppose.

dalaman:
The guy in the video is whom you are berating. Jesus said if you believe in him nothing will be impossible for you. Was he telling lies? You know you are deluded that is why you mostly try to refine and redefine the nonsense written inside the bible.

The fellow in the video did what you(a sinner) wants, not what Jesus or any of the biblical heroes of faith did or would do. You are like a Chinese person insisting on the meaning of an Hausa proverb to an Hausa man. You don't know Jesus, you are not a believer, you don't follow the Bible. Listen to those that know. You waste your time trying to be more catholic than the Pope.

bellong:
The cost implications are outlined in all the links I added. If you read through, you will find it there.

Meanwhile, there is no POF required for subclass 189. However, for 190 some states require POF like Northern Territory and Queensland, others do not but will want you to declare what you have to support yourself.

thanks. 489?

@bellong and co.
Informative thread you've put up here. However i somehow missed the cost implications in all these? Is there no requirement of bank statement, proof of funds kind of? It will be good to have such idea from the first page.

dalaman:
You have no faith. If you do you won't be berating a person that is actually displaying his faith.

Who am I berating, you? The kind of faith seen in the Bible, like Peter had, like David had, like Hezekiah had, like Esther had, like Stephen had. And Paul, and Timothy, John, and the woman with the issue of blood. That's faith. Get real faith and stop moaning like a possessed fowl.

dalaman:
Why don't you actually show some faith instead of berating a Christian that truly believes and is showing it .

You have no idea, i don't blame you though. You need to repent.

dalaman:
You have no faith in what you believe. You know it's total nonsense that's why you keep making endless excuses for what was very clearly written.

An unbeliever is telling a believer that he doesn't believe, rubbish. Run along and find something useful to do with your time, like repentance.

dalaman:
He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

Mathew 17:20

Like i said, those that know know. You need repentance and conversion to deliver you from malinterpretation. Even Jesus or His first hand disciples don't expect a literal rearranging of the global landscape, neither did they practice such. It's utter folly and lack of vision to attempt being more catholic than the Pope.

Repentance is key not religion. However, a repentant person is submissive enough to fellowship with others on the day of worship. Have you repented?

hopefulLandlord:
Our Jesus made it clear in the holy book that we can use his name to move mount everest from Nepal to Lagos

I don't know why my fellow Christians think this guy using that powerful name to command his boss is something bad. Jesus commanded demons to move into pigs FFS so why can't we use his name to command ordinary humans?

The guy in the video was simply applying biblical principles as our Lord Jesus commanded but Christians of little faith are disowning him because they don't have the Guy's level of faith. its all jealousy

Those that know know, unlike you. Humans are created in God's image, not made for manipulation in whatever name. You need to be converted so as to stop malinterpretation of the scriptures like that fellow. Jesus loves you.