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realmindz:
How do u know all these things. ?...truly, the religious ones are the wisest ones, they know by what they ve been told then images of their thoughts begin appearing in their minds. From there they establish an everlasting belief.

Young man, you are as foolish as any other person with a contrary religious belief. You are nothing special

The Bible said so, how do you not know these things?
You forgot to ask Ranchhoddas when he was asking questions about the devil and his activities? His questions get answered and you come up with an emotional outburst. Watch that bp.

Ranchhoddas:
Demons are afraid of atheists -Plaetton, (NL 2016).

You believe Plaetton based on?

bejeiodus:
Sahara reporters have provided enough clues to
prompt the EFCC into action. Buratai occupied a
strategic position when the arms money
was being pilfered by senior military officers. He
needs to tell the nation his role in the infamous
saga....He ordered the retirement of some
officers based on their alleged roles in the arms
scandal, he must not be spared if investigations
established that he helped himself with some of
the money too. This a call for equity and fairness
in the fight against corruption. There must be no
sacred cow.

Nothing criminal has been established in the OP. It is not a crime to own property, or international passports, or thriving business.

Ranchhoddas:
Mine doesn't tell me to kill anyone. So it's good enough for me.What powers were the bogeyman deposed of since he can still apparently go on sprees.

Exactly why i said Your source of morality is very poor. Nothing makes yours better than the fellow that i know. As for the devil, he was said to be formerly an angel of light, with riches, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty, anointed, free, perfect and bright. nowadays, he's just the liar devil, under my feet and knowing his level(he know where him limit dey to spree, like your side), and waiting to go to hell fire.

AnalyticEngine:
Its one of my bad habits. I really need to stop over-rating myself.

Work on it, put in some hardwork for a change. At least, you don't pray, do you?

Great point you have here. I have been the noise maker.

Well, we would not call this confession time, would we?

Ahhh, I surrender! You really shut me up with your very intelligent and sound proofs/evidences. I just couldn't find a way around them. Why disgrace me like this now?

Don't flatter me, i'm not the devil.

Baba, I agree with you. How could I have been this silly. Instead of me to echo to u that I edited your quote so you could avoid basing your analysis on an assumed premise, I misled you into thinking you wrote what you actually did not write even though it seemed to you like you wrote it, because you had read it before. Excellent line of defence. As you have said, it is really too bad for me because my brain faculties can't process such things. When my brain develops into a more advanced state as yours I will begin to reason as smart as u do.

You missed it yet again, even while trying hard to agree with me. My analysis wasn't based on an assumed premise(that i already quoted the verse), my analysis was based on several scriptures, ESPECIALLY verses after the said verse i.e the TRANSFIGURATION event that followed. Read it again, you seem to suffer memory lapses, would you appreciate laying hands on you and praying for that brain? It's free, paid for by the blood of the Lamb.
It is not an assumption that i had previously read the verse, it is a FACT. Your question/confusion on the verse is not new, it is something i have been answering people with the same answer for many years. Your childish hope that you introduced me to the verse before is unfortunate, you should outgrow it. [size=14pt]You misled me into thinking that i quoted a Bible verse[/size], take it to the bank, or make a plaque stating that and hang it in your bedroom, seeing you see it as a huge lifetime accomplishment. You totally left the point made as there was nothing you could do against it than whine, wail and gnash teeth. you're not the first though, see your fellows here.
Act 6:10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake.

I have edited my post, replacing 'think' with 'know'. I trust that would solve this paragraph.

This is good, you are learning. This is how things are done. When you edit even your own post, you should try to state so. Not to talk of quoting someone else and changing their post. i put in some verses, you deleted them and put another. Then you come feeling fulfilled and an achiever. That is not right.

Have fun man.

Sure thing. i wish you would as well.

GeneralShepherd:
The net is a figure of speech but you know already even though you are grilling me about it.

Okay let's not squabble over semantics, I'll rephrase.

' it is not yet scientifically possible to regenerate a lost limb'.

So, are you promising that when it becomes scientifically possible, you would stop asking for God to heal one with a lost limb?

I actually thought it is pretty obvious to anyone why atheists always clamour for regeneration as proof of miracles because it is impossible to fake. Yes, I honestly believe that most so called miracles are not what they are portrayed to be.

Blimey!! Most of the miracles i have seen are not fake, there was no need to fake them. When my eyes were going blind, who was i faking it for for crying out loud? When i got my miracle, it was clear to me and still remains clear till date. When my close relative walked about with a leg shorter than the other, who on earth was she faking it for? It was an eyesore, a challenge and a reproach to her and her family. We all knew it, we all pitied her for years. When she got her healing, it was also clear to everyone the change that happened. At that time, we used to live together, no story, no dem say, no maybe when i travelled or whatever. It was live and unforgettable. And so many more that i could talk of, both of myself and others. Nobody needs to prove miracles to you or anybody. For what exactly again?

Lilbrown007:
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion. This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion.

Good definition.

Yes They Existed But Is No Record Of Anyone Named Jesus His Name Might Be Something Else
Yes Paul Existed But From Ur Bible We Could See That He Contradict Jesus A Lot So Anything Coming From Him Cannot Be Trusted Given The Fact That He Also Has A Hand In The Gosple

Okay, if i can get you right, Paul and Jesus existed, but Jesus did not exist? No, that cannot be right, that makes no sense. Lemme try again.
Paul and Jesus existed, but the Jesus personality MIGHT have used another name not the name Jesus. i guess this colored is your position. If yes, how do you come to the conclusion that Paul existed, or that this nameless fellow who you seem to have his record existed?

Lilbrown007:
The Bible Is Simply False

You would not just want me to just quote one Bible verse and leave it at that, or just declare that you are Simply Wrong. Answer my questions intelligently please. Here they are again.
1). What is tangible proof?
2). What makes it intangible or unacceptable to you?
3). Give examples of tangible proof of events with similar date?

ivandragon:
on one hand, this is a good move which helps get the pulse of the 'real' people & to understand market trends & prices, it helps know where the people hurt & dymistifies the aura around political power. on the other hand, I doubt if he properly applies this interactions in a positive way. if he was more sensitive, better resource manager & less vulgar... he would have been one of the most down to earth governors ever...

No hand at all, the reaction is called eye service. No ordinary citizen will call a rich influential person names to their face. It's done all the time with staff grumbling about oga and management. And not with Fayose that even kings in his state fear his craziness. You saw Zenith bank MDs and PhD holder Aluko all afraid of him. The poor masses best bet is to hail him and get some money dashed them. It's not an indication that they enjoy his government.

Lilbrown007:
Tangible Proof Will Be OK Na

I've modified the post. What is tangible proof? Is the Bible tangible proof for instance? If no, what makes it intangible? Give examples of tangible proof of events with similar date.

Lilbrown007:
Common Evidence U Guys Cant Even Bring One So Now Who Is Misguided? Me Or U??

What is your definition of evidence, anything that supports your ignorant stance? Did Paul exist? Was Jesus a political dissident? Did Jesus exist?
Answer the simple questions above and get on the road to sanity and recovery.

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Kundagarten:
Money don come na, see her shop.

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Zahra is an Arabian name just like Jonathan is a Jewish name, be healed in Jesus' mighty name.

Anyone doubting the existence of Jesus Christ in this age is gullible, delusional,not well read and misguided.

Being without understanding is unrighteousness, therefore very dangerous according to Romans 1.

Omooba77:
Thanks sir. That was along time ago,he was supposed to be my best man. It was a trying period,my dad just died few years back;you can see the agony of my mum,but thank God she stronger now in faith in God.

Death is inevitable, it is never a reason to believe or disbelieve God. Jesus Himself died, so did James, Stephen, and all the early church. If Jesus tarries, we're all going to die, ouch. It's painful in our perspective, but in God's perspective, it's an exit door, for the believer into His literal arms. The sting of death is sin.

No atom or inkling of safety in Ekiti, what exactly is wrong with this place. No guard rails, no covered drainage, everybody just stand for edge of gutter pose with governor. What is this, secondary school party or what?

i seriously refuse to believe this, i need to hear Adeosun say this live by myself. Many hungry journalists don't understand her phonetics.

This has nothing to do with oil, Buhari or militants. Macmahon is an engineering çompany in contract with Lafarge cement i.e Unicem in calabar. It's likely a community issue, or misunderstanding with management.

DeSepiero:
Who says Hell exists?
If hell must exist, then Africa is a branch of hell.

Oh that, thank you for convincing me.

AnalyticEngine:
Regenerating a limb is even too much. Don't go too far. They should present a documented evidence of a broken bone or spine that was fixed instantly and that will do. When ever you ask for evidence, they will evade you by quoting what Jesus said "a wicked and perverted generation seek for signs." My own issue is, isn't the same great power capable of healing HIV also able to regenerate a new limb? Is its potency restricted? Ask them for evidence of stomach ache or cancer healing, they'll be swift to provide you-tube videos of testimonies. We now ask for testimonies or at least a reputable documentation of an amputee's testimony and they keep hurling torrents at us saying that we should change our line of argument.

Duh, i gave evidence of four testimonies in the OP. Did you care to believe them? Did you not immediately disregard them? Do not change your line of argument, simply present sensible arguments.

GeneralShepherd:
Is scientifically possible the same as a miracle? So by your logic that Airplanes can fly after years of research is a miracle.

Do I need to know all the amputees in the world? Well if you have documented evidence of a regenerated limb please share with me. I'll gladly drop my net and follow Jesus

You said that "The reason atheists continually demand regeneration of an amputee's limb as the ultimate proof of divine healing, is simply because it is scientifically impossible. " This implies that once something is scientifically possible, you may not disbelieve that God did it(a miracle). Your position is that all the healings and miracles of headache, stomachache, blindness etc are scientifically possible. Correct me if i am wrong, i often try to make some sense out of the senselessness.
When you assume naively that God has never healed ANY out of the plethora of amputees across the world, i thought you knew some of them. i did not know that you were talking by faith. Are you a fisherman, what do you mean by dropping your net?

Ranchhoddas:
If he has been deposed of his powers why then are you and your ilk always tormented by demons? What is the point of your endless night vigils? What are you always binding and casting? Your story does not add up. The source of my morality by the way is my conscience.

i said deposed of powers, i did not say deposed of ALL his powers. i am not tormented by demons. i do not have endless night vigils, but people have the right to. Your source of morality is very poor BTW. i know someone whose conscience thinks it is okay to kill homosexuals.

AnalyticEngine:
You see, Mr Image, don't misconstrue my silence as inability to find serious loopholes in your spiritual theories. I stopped responding to your mentions the moment I discovered you are an arrogant fanatic but u're still hell bent on mentioning me. For instance, even when I pointed to you clearly from one of your posts that you erroneously made some claims that were wrong (something about you mentioning a verse or so...can't recall exactly) instead of you to politely admit your mistake like an educated scholar would, you still tried to adjust the error just to feel good about yourself. I don't dialogue with people like this. This is the same reason you won't find me seriously dialoguing with intelligent parrots like Anas09

You overrate yourself really. i did not complain about your silence or garrulity. The post i responded to was written by you almost a month ago, May 26. If anyone was silent, it was me. And it's because i did not really have the time, neither was i noting faces or monikers in answering. You probably stopped answering me because i shut you up, which is the point BTW.
1Pe 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

About "erroneously made some claims that were wrong", don't be ridiculous. One would think i blasphemed the Holy Ghost or said some big deal thing. If you cannot recollect, go back and read, at least it was your post. You QUOTED me and edited it without informing me properly. On NL and generally, if you quote someone, it is assumed that that is what the person said. In fact, if you edit your own post, it is normal to state it. But you did not state that you have edited my post, unlike here where you did the right thing by informing at the end that you edited/truncated. What was the deal that you are carrying on your head like world cup. You said i did not read a Bible verse, i said i have read it earlier, and showed you even quoting me in the verse. You made the mistake, you should have put your verse in your post, not in my quote. i do recall reading the verse, and i recall quoting a couple of verses. You exchanged the verses in my post/quote. What is the big deal about that, you missed the point which was that i was aware of the verse and had read it. If you cannot process that, too bad.

If you think christianity is working for you, continue to be a christian. If it makes u prosper, continue. If the name of God or Jesus saves you from any oppression, depression or sickness, do what works for you. As for me when I fall sick, I will go to the hospital. If I want to get riches, I will work hard. I passed my exams in my undergraduate days because I studied hard. Reality works very well for me. I have seen as much people who don't believe in God do exploits as much as I have seen those who do attribute their exploits to God.

What biblical principles have you applied and worked? I would rather prefer that you stay off my mention

i do not just think christianity is working, i know it works. Christianity never stopped you or me from going to the hospital, or working hard, or studying, or reality. It did not stop unbelievers from being rich/whatever you call exploits either. in fact, the Bible mentions and affirms ALL these things. All the biblical principles i applied worked, from that of healing, to salvation, to peace, to relationship, to good health, to long life, to success, to emotions. On your mention, i cannot really guarantee you that. Reasons being that i do not stalk or pester you, and it is not against forum rules to mention anyone. Also, i cannot go and keep/register your name under unmentionables in my brain or anywhere, i do not have such space for pettiness. If you see my mention, you are free to exercise your right of IGNORING, i do it all the time.

Ranchhoddas:
Both. The morality especially.

Well as you can see, it happens here on earth, so nothing strange about the reality. About the morality, i'm not in charge of that one. Who is the source of your morality, God is my own source. So your guess is as good as mine, whatever He does is lovely.
Also, satan is a spirit, already deposed of powers and judged, just that he is yet to start his sentence. Man is man, and his own judgement time starts after death. Is it moral for man to be pregnant for 9months, while some other animal is pregnant for 30months? They are not the same class, i think.

lordkhalifa:
obong victor attah is now a northerner or one of his relatives gave birth To Aisha buhari Charlie let use our common sense here, you knew bull-hari is dirtier than entire PDP members come together, why is he the one to defend her wife Why do the wife have to react so fast In any lie there is atom of truth... We need Aisha to visit America and clear his name, charity should start from home... Can ordinary Director of a beauty parlor in abuja afford 800million worth of drugs and relieve material distributed during her husband campaign to IDP, plus 10million naire watch she wore during bull-hari inauguration , its means Aisha has cockroach in her cupboard,

Attah is fondly referred to by Aisha as her uncle, did you not read it here? Just before her picture in the article link if you are too lazy to read through. "

he was impressed by the easy rapport between Mr. Attah and Ms. Buhari.

“She has a lot of affection for him,” Mr. Ondeck says. “She kept calling him ‘Uncle.

"

Common sense says the entire PDP members are dirtier than President Buhari, no intelligent person will claim otherwise openly. i do not know what you use to measure time of reaction, or it's correlation to innocence. Care to share? We are not all the same, and the First Lady has a will of her own, not bound by the President. That the President is not openly enraged by foolishness doesn't mean that others cannot be. Fayose's wife for instance is not as garrulous as Fayose if you have met her before. When you say that "In any lie there is atom of truth", you arrive at this based on what? If i go on to lie that you are a thief that stole my car, is there an atom of truth there?
Aisha does not need to visit America, even if she did, she is not being investigated or pursued there. i do not recall her following the President to any of his numerous foreign trips to the different continents, even Mecca.
i do not know where you saw or estimated 800million worth of drugs and relief material distributed, do not believe every foolish thing on the internet. BTW, in politics, people do things and appoint their leaders and heads to commission them. It is not out of place or extraordinary for any political party to sponsor things and give them out through their candidates/wives. For instance, when Fayose shares rice and money, it is not from his account, hope you know that. It is campaign money but he is the one to share it, even others sharing will share on his behalf putting his picture etc. Also, we do not know how much the first lady's clothing and accessories cost, except you have the receipt of course. But it is not wrong or uncommon for her to be given gifts by very affluent people. Even common parish pastor and alfa are receiving jeep gift, how much more the first lady.

DeSepiero:
Seriously?
You need to start reasoning.

You that assumes you have started reasoning, what did you reason? Who created hell?

Ranchhoddas:
How come the fellow is in hell and Satan and his demons who caused the whole problem are still roaming about?

Na so we see am oh, no be me put am there. Are you confused with the reality or the morality? Jefferson is in Prison, Atiku is enjoying, lol. Is it real, is it moral?

lordkhalifa:
then let her go to US and prove her innocence the guilty are afraid

so Fayose is the one to direct her life or what? The said Aisha is not wanted in the US for any crime BTW. Try and read and stop allowing thugs like Fayose and dropout like Lere think for you. You went to school bro. Obong Victor Attah, former governor of AkwaIbom state is the Aisha's uncle. He's in Nigeria, maybe you can ask him to confirm.

lordkhalifa:
then if she not the one, why is she panicking



Bull-hari is dirtier more than entire PDP members come together

Not everyone ignores false accusations. Why does NOI write stories about them wanting to spoil her name anytime she is accused. Do you think she's panicking

idensko:
U re laying an ambush for some1 u re yet 2 c,

While Atiku and co are roaming freely.

Hiah!!!!

9ja we we dey.

Duh, the case was thrown away by the corrupt PDP as it involved big wigs, it is not currently under investigation. One step at a time, let's face the arms probe own that is open and very fresh.

opius:
U ve not done anything

(1) Aisa Buhari said she is 45 and not 47 as ur investigation reveal

(2) The so Call Aisha buhari is wanted in US so she did not testify otherwise she would ve been arrested

Wanted for what if I may ask?