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BabaGnoni:
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Jokester... nothing gets past image123 because of the halo hanging over his head

It's capital letter I, lol.

Candour:
Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year to all of us

You should wish me your uncle separately, not together with everyone. I'm a man of God like pastor C.

frosbel:
Joseph was the biological father of Jesus. It's included in books that were rejected from inclusion into the present day bible we have with us. T

I suggest you follow my thread on the virgin birth and peruse the opening page to know my position and then you can ask questions.

Okokobiokooooooooooooo! I'm surprised that I'm surprised. Joseph was the biological father of Jesus ke? You supply sure proof of what I hear about you very easily.

WinsomeX:
This time last year, the greatest discussion on tithes Nairaland had ever known was ongoing. Refer:

www.nairaland.com/1548047/theological-discuss-tithing-rhymeyjohn-image123

You overrate yourself. BTW, i noticed you wishing yourself merry christmas in the other thread, what is the meaning of that one?

malvisguy212:
I believe, the more you open thread against this guy the more you evangelise is believe , let him be, it's a choice he made. There is one post someone made that really sadden me, he say ; ''if someone like frosbel beginning to question his belief,what will the ones with the little faith do ?'' You can't force him to change,all the atheists are behind him,when the unbelievers are in support of you, then you need to dust your garment and check your self again.

Who is someone like frosbel BTW, for all i know, he is and was just a zealot not a christian. I've told him before and i say it again.

frosbel:
The first step to freedom from religious brainwashing and fanaticism is bravery. Trust me it is not for the faint hearted. If you had been going to church for eons like I was, you could lose long term relationships especially those of the church and even sometimes your own family. This goes to show you the stranglehold religion has on the lives of people.

Duh, you expect them to rally round you and cuddle up with you, are you from Mars? Human nature is that of withdrawal from birds of different feather. It's not a thing of religion, or brainwashing, or even right or wrong. Christians don't 'love' the world and vice versa. People naturally withdraw from others with divergent opinions, and are also influenced by peer pressure, it's not a matter of right or wrong or religion.

maxism2:
President Goodluck Jonathan in his message to the nation, has prayed that this year’s celebration of the birth of Christ will rekindle, strengthen and reaffirm our faith in the nation’s ability to overcome all challenges.

He further wants you to note the following:

1. As we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ who the Prophet Isaiah heralded as the Prince of Peace and Wonderful Counselor, I believe it is very appropriate that we all, Christians and non-Christians alike, reflect more deeply on the virtues and ideals which the Messiah espoused during his earthly mission.

2. As we celebrate his birth, I urge all Nigerians to offer special prayers for a greater manifestation of divine peace in our country and the vanquishing of all demons of hatred, divisiveness and disunity in our midst.

3. As we celebrate Christmas, let us also remember and offer special prayers for all of our countrymen, women and children who have suffered and continue to suffer untold hardship, deprivation and death at the hands of terrorists and insurgents.

4. Let us also continue to pray for our gallant soldiers and security agents who remain at the forefront of the national effort to overcome terrorism and violent extremism, even as the rest of the nation celebrates Christmas and the coming New Year.

5. In this season of goodwill, I urge all patriotic Nigerians to rededicate themselves to doing all within their powers to support the brave men and women of our armed forces in the ongoing war against terrorism, and also support the Federal Government’s efforts to provide more succour to the hapless victims of terrorist atrocities.

6. The Victims’ Support Fund which we have established to raise additional funds to assist our compatriots who have been adversely affected by continuing insecurity in parts of our country remains active. I call on all individuals and corporate organisations who have not yet done so, to donate more generously to the Fund which is being efficaciously deployed to ease the sufferings of victims of terrorist violence in the country.

7. Dear Compatriots, we are also celebrating this Christmas against the background of preparations for next year’s general elections. I seize this opportunity to reassure the nation that my administration will give the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) all necessary support to ensure that it delivers very free, fair, credible and acceptable elections in 2015. I urge our political class to be law- abiding and place the greater interests of our nation above all personal or sectional interests in the countdown to the elections.



http://ynaija.com/pres-jonathan-wants-you-to-remember-these-7-things-as-you-celebrate-christmas-today/

Why the seven about boko haram and election, what kind of Christmas message is that?

malvisguy212:
The question of whether Christians should celebrate
Christmas seems like a foregone conclusion.
However, a number of Christians are strongly against celebrating Christmas. This thread will examine the question of celebrating Christmas from the scriptures. Are there good reasons for or against
celebrating Christmas? How should we celebrate?
Their are two answer to this question, YES and NO,let us take a look at the answers;

CELEBRATE,YES
Although there is no record of early Christians
celebrating Christmas in the Bible, there is a record
of God celebrating the first Christmas. According to
the gospel of Luke, God sent a multitude of angels
who were praising God and announced the birth of
Jesus to a number of shepherds. So, God Himself
doesn't seem opposed to celebrating Christmas.

Luke2:13-14 '' Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host
appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,
14
“Glory to God in the highest heaven,
and on earth peace to those on whom his favor
rests.”

This is enough prove that even the heavenly host celebrate the announcement of christ birth,it was God himself that approve it. Skeptic say jesus was not born in december, yes, no one know the exactly date but bible tell us how to celebrate a feast;

Romans 14.
5 One person considers one day more sacred than
another; another considers every day alike. Each of
them should be fully convinced in their own mind.6
Whoever regards one day as special does so to the
Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for
they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does
so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

CELEBRAITE NO
A history of the church shows that Christmas was not
celebrated for the first three centuries after Jesus'
resurrection. The first Christian Roman emperor,
Constantine, began the celebration of Christmas on
December 25 in 325 A.D. The December 25th date of
Christmas might have been selected to correspond
with the winter solstice or with the Roman solar
holiday Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, but was unlikely to
be the actual birthday of Jesus. For this reason alone,
many Christians have rejected the traditional
December 25th celebration of Jesus' birth.

WHAT TO CELEBRATE.
The Bible is clear that Christians should not be telling
other Christians what days to celebrate, as long as
they honor God and do it giving thanks to Him. So,
whether or not a Christian celebrates Christmas is up
to their own personal conscience. However, the
manner in which Christians celebrate Christmas is a
legitimate topic for discussion among Christians.
Certainly, entertaining family and friends and
celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ honors God and
fulfills the advice given by Paul in Romans 14.7
However, random "holiday" parties and endless gift
exchange just adds to the secularization of Christmas.

CONCLUSION;
Christmas should be a time to celebrate God's
greatest gift to us, the birth of Jesus Christ. Although
we do not know the day (or even the year) of Jesus'
birth, celebrating on December 25th is as good as
any. In fact, many of the feasts given in the Old
Testament were based upon a calendar that was not
365 days long, resulting in them being celebrated on different solar days each year. Even the Christian
celebration of Easter is based upon the Jewish
Passover, so is not celebrated on a specific day of the solar year. The Bible advises that Christians celebrate based upon their own consciences, "giving thanks to God." So, we advise celebrating as the Lord leads, but always giving thanks for God's great gift to humanity.

MARRY CHRISTMAS IN ADVANCE.

This is sweet. Thanks.

WinsomeX:
I wish all naira landers merry Christmas. Specifically:

Gombs, nlmediator, Alwaystrue, Bidam, Image123, mbaemeka and all others.

I also felicitate with shdemidemi, trustman, BabaGnoni, PastorKun, SirJohn, Candour, vooks, nannymcphee, Goshen360, frosbel and all the rest.

I trust God that theological discusses of 2015 will unveil greater knowledge of the person of Jesus Christ to us all.

Enjoy the season.

Season's greetings to you too. You still decided to divide us based on this your open secret criteria. More grace i pray.

CAPTIVATOR:
Yes .

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I really like ur honesty .
Ur question reveal that the op and his site are together confused .

Scripture say " solomon died!"

What happened next ?

" then SOLOMON lay down with his forefathers, and was Buried in the City of David his father" !! 1 King 11:43 ! Solomon was finally buried In d Grave ! Scripture shows the person called solomon was layed down in d grave !

Okay, i asked if you're a christian because i don't expect a christian to have a problem with the reality of the inner man. It is a view that the Bible agrees to and teaches.
Now, everyBODY goes to the grave when they die as it were. It's not only Solomon. But some people go to where the Bible refers to as Abraham's bo.som or paradise.

CAPTIVATOR:
See religious myths ...... What about the inside woman ;; ehn

According to the scriptures ..... Where did Solomon go when he died ??

1. Are you a christian?
2. Does the scripture tell where Solomon went when he died?

frosbel:
It's easy to de-convert as a Christian in Nigeria, here is what you need to do ;

1. Watch the hypocrisy and wickedness of their leaders most of whom are thieves , robbers and conmen.
2. Examine very carefully the live of the members with the word of God. The members live like the devil and claim Christ, who are they deceiving , lol.
3. Thoroughly research all their so called bible doctrines which are mostly Pagan.
4. If you don't leave after getting feedback from all these points, you are either brainwashed, part of the problem or making a profit out of it.


One key thing to have is boldness, because as soon as you turn your back on their madness they will chase you in packs like rabid dogs to tear you to pieces and further reinforce your decision to depart in the first place.

I can say thank you God for delivering me from this mother of all confusion called Nigerian Christianity.

How's london christianity abi where you dey again sef? I thought it was london christianity that you were in nah.

ife4luv21:
yes, I am a jw

Okay, you don't know the date of birth. I'd like to know, what exactly is pagan in christmas, is it the colour red or green, or decoration, or eating rice and chicken?
I'll give one Bible perspective though.
Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

lastmessenger:
Thanks guys for your criticisms so far but i still wanna hear from Frosbel. Frosbel where are you? Come to the defence of what you believe.

I'm here waiting with you but I'll say he doesn't believe in anything. He is just a rebel against everything at convenience.

CAPTIVATOR:
!!!
It clear that it all ends on earth !! " whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, Where you are going." Ecc 9:5,10 ..

Does it say in heaven where you are going ?? ,

give me proof from the bible dat solomon go to heaven ??

If solomon go to heaven when he dies, as uv been told .... Why did Jesus die,since pple are making heaven without him paying for our sins ??

If solomon go to heaven,why wuld Jesus say " NO MAN has ever ascend to heaven"joh3:13

Funny fellow, you asked me if Ecclesiastes was inspired by God and clarification on a verse there. What do i have to do with you, if you wanna ask questions, ask properly na.
Of course, every BODY goes to the grave as it were, but your inside man goes some other place. BTW, i don't think i said that Solomon went anywhere so I'm not getting into the argument.

ife4luv21:
jw.org .. frequently ask questions

What is jw's perspective? Are you jw?

seyisolu:
Christ lived for 33.5 years.
Let's say he was born in December. This means he reached his 33 years in December. Now let's count 6 months, we will land on June. Unfortunately, easter or the celebration of Christ's birth is not always done in June but April. Now let's count 6 months from October,we will definitely land in April. Therefore, christ was no born in December but October.
The God's Kingdom Society(GKS) has been preaching the truth about the date of Christ birth.
We do not know the exact day but the month is now known. Thank God for this revelation through Saint G.M.Urhobo, the instrument God Almighty used to found the GKS.

Interesting. Did the Bible give us this insight of Jesus living 33.5years?

Anybody who is not born again should not be celebrating anything, not even his own birthday.

Lol at asking sincere questions. The fellow is a frustrated soul who wanted to have the preeminence but wasn't given the opportunity. I pray he is saved some day.

italo:
Tell that to image123. He believes the Church can teach contradictory doctrines.

Duh, can is sure different from should. Face the reality, i don't have to be roman catholic to be a child of God.

Luk 4:43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.

I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also. This is good news. The gospel is not for one place or community or tribe. The gospel is for everybody. I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also, it is a MUST. Jesus saw it as a must. The kingdom of God, righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost is not for one particular city, age, dispensation or denomination. People talk about a church or denomination being "holiness church, deliverance church" and other such qualifications. Every church and city, commission and ministry should have the gospel of the kingdom. As the father has sent Christ, even so has He sent us. #the Good News.

thehomer:
And I've demonstrated your ignorance.

Next time, don't act like you are under a spell then, we are the two people discussing.

That's just it. He doesn't need a test if he is really a God. Unlike a lecturer, God doesn't need to test you in order to find out what you know. He already knows it so doesn't need to test anyone. What is it with you and selective thinking? Why would a serious God who knows it all be testing himself? That makes no sense.

What things could He have set up without the tree? You have conveniently skipped that twice now. You said He shouldn't use the tree as a test, so give us ideas nah of what He should have used. Okay, i figure you have taken my explanation in the first three sentences.
God doesn't need a test, it is man that needs a test. Who needs a test in the lecturer and the student? Tests are not just for assessment, duh i suppose all the brilliant guys should never be tested again since we know they are brilliant. Tests refine you and bring out the best in you. Imagine just studying continually all year and for four years, without tests or assignments or exams. We just present you your certificate or degree after a couple of years, since we trust you and know you are brilliant. Gold is good, so also is Crude Oil, but they have to be refined. Again, i showed you that the DEVIL tested Jesus, how many times do you have to be told before you assimilate?

As far as I'm concerned, it is a deficit and the sign of a corrupt mind to be willing to kill your own son because someone just tells you to do that. Merely claiming that I have some deficit doesn't make it the case.

It makes me laugh how you quote Ingersoll in revenge of any time i quote a Bible verse. When i say you worship Ingersoll now, or that Ingersoll is your Bible, you start denying. None of the men i mentioned would kill their son because someone just tells them to do that. God is not a man. Abraham did a most sensible thing because GOD told him to do what he was to do, and he knew very well that God gave him the child even when he had lost all hope of ever having him.
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
Heb 11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

The men i mentioned; Abraham, Paul, Job, Daniel, Peter were all able to live righteous lives despite being born with a sin nature. Your sin nature is not an excuse for you, this is the point you should stress yourself focusing on.

No your God does not meet my definition of love. It is not a sign that one loves a 6 month old baby by commanding that the baby should be killed. Well, the fear of hell is not a good reason for doing whatever your God wants.

God SO loved us that He gave His only Son. While we were yet enemies and sinners, He died for us. He made the first step even though we were the ones that offended Him. Adam went into hiding and blaming every other person, but God came looking for him and clothing him, and promising a solution, and sparing man from living forever in the fallen condition.
This meets your definition of love as "An intense feeling of affection and care towards another person." i take it the fear of hell is an incentive for many.

I was merely trying to express myself in ways that you would understand in order for you not to get confused. The fear of hell is not a good reason to do whatever injustice your God commands.

Funny fellow. Anyways, FIRSTLY God does not command you to do any injustice. i showed you some of His commands to you but you seem very shy to them. Here they are again.
1Pe 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
1Pe 3:9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
1Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
1Pe 3:11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.

Now, the fear of hell does not have to be your incentive to do good, it is not mine BTW. But whatever rocks your boat or makes you obey God, just do it. When i cross the road carefully or work hard at what i do, it is not because of fear of retrenchment or fear of a trailer crushing me or fear of my boss. If those are your motivations, i have absolutely no qualms but those are not mine. The negatives are realities that can happen, i agree, but they are not what drive me to do whatever i do.

And what your God did meets the definition of genocide. There is no denying that fact either. It is impossible and senseless to say that your God did not command genocide. Based on your own words, your God is a murderer and a criminal.

No it doesn't, i have explained why and i will again. Genocide is a CRIME. What God did is not a crime. i do not deny, neither am i ashamed of whatever God did or does, but labelling it wrongly is what i do not agree to.
When i take a knife and take the life of MY chicken, it is NOT A CRIME. But when i take a knife and unlawfully take the life of my fellow man, it is a crime. Why? Because he doesn't belong to me, and he is my fellow man. i can attempt to discuss and give reasons as to what God does or did, that doesn't take away anything from God. Love Him or hate Him, He will still be God and people will continue to follow Him forever, you cannot punish Him but yourself. If i took my baby or say my dog, and gave him/it a very painful vaccination for instance, i cannot explain to it why i did what i did, and it may not understand. It is not because i cannot explain myself, but because it lacks capacity to understand me at that time. Mine intellect is just a little bit greater than my baby's or dog's, compared to yours and God's. If you do not understand why or what God does, it doesn't mean He should not do what He did/does.

Can you demonstrate relativity to me? The fact that you don't understand it doesn't mean it is silly or unprovable.

Yes i can, i studied some physics. For your perusal
The point again is that gravity and relativity are not silly theories. You can also demonstrate them and see it in real and everyday scenarios. It is unlike saying that man evolved from apes as how man came to be. That is silly, empty and baseless. Of course i understand the stupidity of it, i actually wrote on it in school and passed(very well sef), duh.

How does what you've written above mean that your God actually loved the 6 month old babies that he commanded to be killed? Or that he loved the young women he commanded those soldiers to abduct? This is why I say you're either being dishonest or deeply confused. Note that I'm also talking about the actual immoral commands your God has given and used it to reveal his deep evil.

Your red herring fallacy is already being discussed in another paragraph, your obsession with 6 month old babies is becoming amusing. This paragraph is on love and its demonstration, focus. i showed you earlier how we could ignore your previous silliness and recklessness and childishness, and those of your nobel laureate heros and intelligently discuss their/your ideas of what good/morality is. When you present your humanist manifestos, we look at the manifesto and its content, not sidestepping issues and talking about how the authors behaved in secondary school or at age 3. When we are talking about love, focus and talk about it. In other paragraphs of the post, we will address your fantasies. God fits the context of your definition of love very well, face that fact.

Paul, Daniel, Moses, Joseph, David, Job and Luke are inferior to Ingersoll. You've not given any arguments or appropriate reasons and context. if genocide isn't a sign of love, why do you say it is love when your God does it?

One has to be using banned substances like marijuana to say this above quote, please stop using. You made the claims to superiority and i asked first that you give reasons and context in which you feel Ingersoll is superior, hopefully you don't resort to your God-Zeus irrationality. Job for instance was the greatest of all the men of the east. Ingersoll would die instantly of inferiority complex just standing next to him.
Job 1:3 His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east.

I know what I said. I'll answer if I know that you'll change your mind based on information. All you have to do is to say whether or not you'll accept that your God made it a crime to think if I show you evidence for that statement.

Hahahaha, see dodging. Hypocrite. You said that God made it a crime to think, and that God once ordered that people should be killed for having different ideas. Now, you are simply asked for proof, you are stammering.
-Who are the people that God once ordered to be killed for having different ideas, i'd like to discuss the context.
-Does God order that people be killed for having different ideas? You sidestepped the question again again again.

And Adam's father is God so he is the source of all failures. The Bible is a collection of stories by lots of people.

The root cause of your sin default state and you being the way you are is Adam your father. If Adam had not sinned, you would not have a sin default. It has also being shown you how your human mates are getting out of that sin default while you keep looking for who to blame, just like Adam your father. Stop blaming others for your failure and take responsibility. The Bible is a collection of stories by lots of people, but it is the Word and deeds of God when you think it shows you that God is evil, very convenient. Stop deceiving yourself even when the devil is not doing it.

This is just ridiculous. What is the point of saying he is like something he isn't like?

you've got to be kidding me. Scratch that completely, i learnt similes and metaphors as far back as when i was a kid. i said and made bold that HE IS NOT, HE ISN'T. i didn't say "he isn't like". Are you drunk? i said God is LIKE Rock, Water etc but He is not Rock, Water, Sun etc. Your educational background may need to be called to question if you still do not get this.

I want you to reject the ideas of your God's morality. Whether or not you end up sharing similar views to me isn't as important to me as whether or not you've bothered to think.

What? You want me to reject the Word of God and what He tells me to do?
1Pe 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
1Pe 3:9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
1Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
1Pe 3:11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.

You mean i should leave and reject all these? i should not be united with others, or have compassion, or love, or have pity? i should reject being courteous, i should stop doing good and ensuing peace? That is what you want me to do? you would need to perform many superior miracles to God's to stand a chance of me taking you serious. Of course, you don't even care whether or not i end up sharing similar views to you. i hope not to. We all know what the likes of your brothers Stalin and Pot did with their godless views of morality.

I didn't ask a question there, you did. And I gave the appropriate response. Simply looking up the meaning of that response would really help you.

Help to know mu? i don't need such help, i'm fine thank you.

Then you think those are good reasons for supporting genocide. I'm sorry but that is just evil. I think those are poor reasons because genocide isn't defensible.

You think otherwise, why? i think i've seen you defending the killing of babies in the womb

Still doesn't make genocide the right response. I refuse to follow a God who commands genocide.

You avoided my questions as is becoming customary of you. Do you also know that in the Old Testament, God created man, created the earth, divided the red sea, used His prophets to raise the dead and perform many miracles? Are you afraid to consider all that God did in the Old Testament? The fact remains that God is INCAPABLE of evil, meditate on that till it sinks. Some things are simply IMPOSSIBLE for God to do.
i refuse to follow a godless ideology like yours and your brothers- Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao Zedong. Their deeds due to inability to follow God and His ideology and morality not only shocked hyena hearts but killed hyenas at once. They made the poison of the cobra taste like milk, and made the dastardly acts of the religious crusades seem like a massage.

It is childish and an expression of gross ignorance of yourself to say that you don't know what you would do in a situation as clear as that. It also reveals your deep dishonesty. How about unknown technology? You see, your lack of imagination still doesn't save you from your evil thoughts.

i didn't say that i don't know what i would do in a situation, stop misstating me and putting words in my mouth dishonestly. i said YOUR QUESTION IS FOOLISH. Come out of your daydreams and face reality. There is no amount of money or known technology presently that can take me or anyone into the Old Testament era/age. Your desert analogy clearly failed, now you resort to dreams and visions of imagination, it really sucks to be used of the devil.

I don't accept that having more people supporting your claims makes you right. Do you think that having more people supporting you makes you right? I see that you find this simple question difficult to answer so you keep trying to dodge.

You are the one dodging the point and context of what is being discussed. The point and context is SUPERIORITY not being right or wrong. God is superior to every other God, take it or go and cry and gnash teeth or something.

Stop the pathetic and childish responses. You're permitted to think out of your comfort zone and reveal what you would do if commanded by God.

At your wit's end again ba? sorry.

You tried to defend genocide when you gave "reasons" for why God commanding a genocide was a good thing to do. All you've done is to clearly reveal how evil your God is.

God did not command or commit genocide. You may need to write that down repeatedly on foolscap papers until you get it.
The media reports to us that boko haram has killed about 14,000 people over the yearS as nauseating as they are. The people you are attempting to defend caused the death of 24,000 Israelites. God is the Judge of the earth, He rightly punished them.
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

If you refuse to know Him, we know Him and we are not ashamed of Him.

[/quote][quote]You only need to answer the actual question I asked which was whether or not your God gave the command to his believers to commit genocide. Do I need to paint it, bold it, italicize it? I've already quoted it but even that has you confused.

i have answered your question, whatever adjective you might use to qualify it. i would oblige you yet again. Watch the block letters. GOD DID NOT COMMAND BELIEVERS TO COMMIT GENOCIDE.

I'm still morally better than your God. I don't know if you know this, but people have done all those things for other people.

Lol, talk is cheap. You that supports and practices abortion, fornication, unforgiveness, indecency, hate etc.
Can you die for me? Can you heal me? Can you give me air to breathe in and out for free? Can you take me to heaven? Can you answer my prayers? Can you write a book? These were the questions i asked, you took to your heels yet again, reminiscent of satan the devil.

Okay. Now answer your question two since you're so hung up on tenses. Don't run from this one too.

Good of you. Master the english language better for future and better communication. Now, referring to this passage and question:
Num 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
Num 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
2. Explain what these commands askED people to do?

Very simple, in case you find the King James uneasy for you to process, i would explain these plain english sentences using contemporary words.
So now put every male child to death, and every woman who has had sex relations with a man. But all the female children who have had no sex relations with men, you may keep for yourselves.

You must put to death every boy and all the women who have ever had sex. But do not kill the young women who have never had sex. You may keep them for yourselves.

So now kill every boy and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse, but keep alive for yourselves all the girls and all the women who are virgins.

If you need further explanation or any of the words are giving you challenges, do let me know.

I've already put it to very good use.

Let's see it already.

The manifestation of which was genocide.

You are clearly out of ideas.

So was it right for people to have been enslaved in the past?

You did not tell us what command God has already given, and to whom. i hope you have learnt the lessons this tin=me around, and will not repeat your mistakes again.
Is ignorance the only slavery? Ingersoll thinks it is, what do you think?

I don't need saving. You're the one who needs saving from your evil God - Satan.

You do need saving from godless ideologies and immorality. We cannot afford to have the likes of Stalin, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot out on the loose waiting for opportunity to show the world their baseless moralities. My God saved me from sin, He made me the good person i am today. His Word guides me, instructs me, teaches me, and stabilizes/steadies me daily.
2Co 1:10 Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

CAPTIVATOR:
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From ur explanation .. U said " this doesnt mean there is no consciousness after death" !!
Back to the text !
THE LIVING = Know that they will die ( this clearly shows they are conscious coz dey know) !
THE DEAD = Know NOTHING at all ( this clearly shows they are conscious of Nothing at all ) !! .
Consider solomon : 1 king 11:43 says
" then Solomon was laid to REST with his forefathers and was buried in the city of David" !! NO ADDITIONAL HERESY OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN HEAVEN!

CAPTIVATOR:
Okay ........... What do u tink about Ecclesiastes 9:5 ?

i think it is the inspired Word of God.

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Joh 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

The context of Ecclesiastes is UNDER THE SUN. Under the Sun referring to this earth.

frosbel:
Look at the comment above this one. While one must go to school to learn different subjects, church is not a recipe for raising a godly child, indeed most children remain 'believers' either due to the fear of parents or financial dependence. Remove these factors and trust me they will rather stay at home.

God does not expect us to force free moral agents to like him, that's just nonsense. He wants us to use our godly lives to guide our children to the truth. Beating and screaming at children to attend church when they have not committed any sin is provoking them and child abuse.

What would you do if your child refused to go to school?

CAPTIVATOR:
Was the book of Ecclesiastes Inpired by God ??

Yes.

frosbel:
What if your son or daughter refuses to go to church with you one morning, what would you do , force him or her ?

Same thing I'd do if he refuses to go to school.

calaway:
Are you saying buhari did not say what i said he said? Am I telling Lies? Please make you point and stop using your imagination.

let me give you one more fact:
BUHARI IS THE PRESIDENT GENERAL OF MIYATTI Allah WEST AFRICA (THE FULANI COMMUNITY). And as we know this group of people have been shedding innocent blood and causing mayhem everywhere in this country(cos somebody is arming them). Now tell me is it that he cannot control his kinsmen or colud he be their sponsor? Do you think that this man can control larger Nigeria going by this fact?

I'll need good proof to whatever you claim Buhari said. Despite that, the present government has also been culpable in saying a lot of inciting and divisive statements. Buhari cannot foist Islam on us, i take that as an empty threat that holds no water. GEJ is president and commander in chief of Nigeria, paid heavily to be. He should do the needful if he knows the people shedding blood and causing mayhem. The current administration has not demonstrated control of larger Nigeria despite having so much money and aid, Nigerian army, police, Navy, airforce, sss, dss etc.

rufychuks:
To even suggest that the military is better is completely wrong. The military era put Nigeria in the situation it is today.

I don't suggest or say that the military is better. I stated historical facts and asked for what is meant by dividends of democracy. " we know that the military gave us better infrastructure in short time. The airports, federal universities, refineries, and many long roads and bridges were built by the military."

Longstride:
let me understand this.
So if a child is smart enough to scrutinize information before gulping, he's under demonic attack, or his parents did a bad job training him

I'm not interested.

calaway:
Are you talking/typing in your sleep? Your post is very abstract, uniformed and full of imagination. anyway let me give you some fact to Digest.
1. Buhari is a fanatic with desires to foist islam on all Nigeria (HIS PERSONALLY VOICED THE WISH FOR SHARIA ON ALL OF NIGERIA. FIND PIC OF STATMENT BELOW)

2.Buhari said Declaring war on BH is declaring war on Northern Nigeria just as muslim Northern elder statesman shettima ali mongunu said BOKO HARAM are our children GEJ must treat them with love. Serving Muslim Northern police commissioner ZAKARI BIU escorted an apprehended BH kingpin responsible for the death of 50 Christian worshipers (RIP) inccluding women and children Kabiru Sokoto out of of police custody to freedom serving Senator NDUME and senator BAMA are proven sponsors of Bokoharam, Kaduna State House of Reps member and youth leader of APC Hussein DEI DEI is exposed as sponsor of BH.
Many northern Muslim leaders and elites are sponsors of BH, only when they are caught do we get to know their identities so you see that the situation is not a random insurgence scenario but an organized calculated engine of destabilization and distraction against Govt. these people sponsor hide and shelter their children, brothers,sisters and friends who are active bh field agents so how will you an outsider single out a BH when they are all bh at heart cos they dont want GEJ immediately he won the 2011 elections you know what happened.
USE KADUNA STATE AS A CASE STUDY, WHEN PATRICK YAKOWA (CHRISTIAN) WAS THE GOVERNOR, THERE WHERE BOKO HARAM BOMBINGS EVERY WEEK BUT WHEN THE TOOK HIS LIFE AND A MUSLIM IS NOW THE GOVERNOR KADUNA STATE HAS BECOME VERY PEACEFUL(BOMBING HAVE STOPPED) use your head (dont be a mumu. place blame where it is supposed to be)
They cannot cross to the Christian south cos they will be like fish out of water & conspicuously different.

I bet you where one of the people shouting all the nonsense when Azazi RIP was NSA but Now that Dasuki is in that office you have forgotten about it.

IF to better our country entails voting in terrorist or giving to intimidation then you must be MAD in the head

You're getting needlessly emotional, please be objective and pass your points maturely. Buhari isn't a fanatic, neither can he foist Islam on Nigeria. He had that opportunity as a military man with a fellow muslim deputy Idiagbon. This is a democracy and that would be much harder.
I have heard GEJ call his cabinet members boko haram and given excuse that they are his brothers and how he needs to be careful in attacking them. What is GEJ waiting for if he knows the proven sponsors of boko haram? What about Sherif Modu that was indicted? What do all these have to do with the calumny on Buhari? Is it a crime to be a Northerners and not be pdp?