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you're the self proclaimed hypocrite. i didn't understand all the lines about cnn and co. You assume you're a goat, I've never said that. Instead, I'm asking if YOU would tolerate a goat as a junior brother in the name of tolerance. would you?

and this is where the party's been?
i guess the most reasonable and logical thing to conclude when siblings are fighting is to doubt the existence of their Father or begin to insult their unreal Mother. Truly, wisdom is too high for a fool.

what can a 12 or 14 year old truly know about fashion. Not trying to be the killjoy but really, no wonder she's dynamic.

but come oh guys, can we be careful with these pharisaic crucifixions? Would these peeps be original prophets IF their predictions were right? Is tb an original for predicting football scores correctly or incorrectly? Are we in the new testament yet?

@op
the head tie is too heavy for them, or they don't believe it.

@Jo
not you again. that's so wrong na.

@op
no
a serious Christian is spirit led, not party led. A nominal Christian can be almost anything though. At the end of the day, God can use anybody and any party. He can even use the devil, so it depends on your priorities. A serious Christian or a nominal Christian. The choice is not a book of life determinant BTW but an eternal rewards determinant.

complicated, not a straight yes or no.

musKeeto: Heaven is not for 'good' people. Its for those who believe in Jesus Christ....

this part is correct, I'm happy for you. You seem to be learning at last. No one is good but God.

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oh you're now making assumed answers for me without answering the most important question in your life presently? you've already admitted to being an hypocrite, but it's pertinent you tell us so we don't assume on your behalf. Would you tolerate a goat as your sister, senior or junior sister, in the name of tolerance?
your thread op suggests that you value tolerance, I'm curious to know how true. Talk is usually cheap.

bigB, you believe in the mark of the beast thing, i thought you're muslim?

BTW, i didn't comprehend your first paragraph.

wiegraf: All this goat talk brings to mind an older thread in which that [s]cretinous, though he actually had a decent case so his suing me was justified[/s] alien that represents those chimps spotted god.

So I have a serious question for you as well, which is relevant to the topic as it's relevant to the question you claim is relevant to the topic.

Could you tolerate this dog's a$$ as your Lord Jesus Christ?

I'm not required to tolerate Jesus Christ, but required to believe on Him. You're the one preaching fine examples of tolerance. For example, would you tolerate a goat as your sister in the name of tolerance?

wiegraf: Can you tolerate being ignored till you have something reasonable to say?

And on a general note, do note I can be hypocritical as well. It's sometimes do as I say, not do as I do with me. Though in this case, what intolerance do you speak of? I did warn you beforehand, no?

you can be hypocritical too? Is that not atheistically wrong? Is it an atheist value to be hypocritical? i do not speak of intolerance, i speak of tolerance. Can you tolerate a goat to be your blood brother in the name of tolerance?

N.B I'm asking you something very reasonable and fundamental to the thread. You speak of a fine example of religious tolerance. Can you practice it, or you cannot tolerate that's why you've being dodging and forging? you can phone a friend too, you know?

Hmmm, you're sullllllllking, pele. Oya, lemme help out.
It is very plainly shown in the bible that the human being has a part to play in his/her salvation. I'll show you more than a dozen scriptures that plainly and clearly state and conclude that. In the light of these passages, there are two options for which you may believe otherwise from the skimpy number of passages you may present to support the otherwise. One option is that you have misunderstood the skimpy passages and need to update yourself. the second option is that the skimpy passages are contradictory to the plethora i'm about to present. If this is the case, i'd advice that you believe the plethora instead of believing the skimpy. Why believe skimpy saddenning passages, when you could believe a plethora of hope-giving passages? Okaaaey, enough on the s & p already.
God wants everybody to be saved, so why would He predestinate anybody to hell or to perish?
1. 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2. 1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
1Ti 2:4 Who WILL have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
3. Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
4. Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
Eze 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
5. Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
6. Luk 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
7. Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Above are 7 different passages showing us that God wants, wills, desires that everybody should be saved. Let me proceed to show you the invitation to all and sundry. The invitation to eternal life, salvation is for all and sundry, heaven is prepared for everybody.
1. Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
2. Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
3. Joh 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
4. Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
5. Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
6. Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
7. Rom 10:11 For the Scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
8. 1Jo 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
9. Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

From the above,we can conclude that the promise of salvation, forgiveness of sins, sonship and friendship with God is for whosoever. Salvation is not only for some sect, the offer is for every human. It is by grace that the Bible says we are saved, and that grace has been given to ALL men. Look at it below.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men,

I've given you more than a dozen scripture passages showing and inviting all human beings to taste of God's offer of salvation and forgiveness. The Bible says that the Word is ESTABLISHED in the mouth of many witnesses. I've given you many witnesses and passages from old and new testament.
If the word 'ordain' or any of its synonyms is what is bothering you, bother no more. To ordain simply/basically means to 'choose/appoint'. Many are called, but few are chosen. God has called all of us, but He chooses us based on the set standards of grace and faith. That one is chosen doesn't mean he cannot be sacked. Judas Iscariot was chosen and ordained. So don't feel bullied or discouraged thinking oh what if i'm not ordained. WHO TOLD YOU that you were not?
Mar 3:14 And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach,
Mar 3:19 And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into a house.

Jesus Christ in conjunction with God the Father ordained Judas Iscariot. Salvation is not limited or forced on the ordained that irrespective of what happens, they will get to Heaven, no. You too can be saved and chosen if you believe and receive Jesus as the Christ, your Christ.

dhtml: ^^^Weird is an understatement, bizzzare marrrriage will be better (for lack of better word).

Okay, bizzzare then.

wiegraf: Meeeeeehhhh
Meh, meeeeeh, mmmehhh, mmmeeehhhh

Closest goat I could find, that was his response when I explained this situation to him and asked it how it felt about you.

how it felt about me/ You're the one preaching tolerance, the joke is on you, as it were. Can you tolerate a goat for a sister in the name of tolerance?

wiegraf: I am?

That's biologically impossible.
Ask a silly question, don't complain if you get a silly reply

so you wouldn't? even if it was adopted?

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how far with your friend in the weird marriage?

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you're asking for the impossible oh. frosb don't discuss, he'd rather quote the whole post add some glib wish like "fail" or "debunked".

wiegraf: I wouldn't be unjustified in thinking you view atheists as goats, yes?

Btw, I'm a proud rational fella?

you're a proud rationalLY DISPOSED fella. Would you tolerate a goat as your elder brother in the name of tolerance?

wiegraf: I think you have some issues. Consider taking a holiday or getting laid (preferably not with this goat you're obsessed with).

i think you feel strongly that you're the goat in question, you're quite emotional for a proud rationally disposed fella. Would you tolerate a goat as sibling in the name of tolerance?

Logicboy03: You and Frosbel are the same. Intolerant bigots


Soon, you would be asking for blasphemy laws to hang atheists.


Commot for road.

so, will you tolerate a goat as family?

haha bigbash, he said you should have fun. How is that an attack na?

agreed apart from the Paul part sha. The rapture can come at anytime, Paul wasn't making people believe it would come before he died but anytime. He even wrote how he had finished his course and was to die. I'm not trying to take anything away from your wonderful op, but don't try introducing that Paul was wrong too thought, inevitably linking it with pat on the other thread later on.
God bless you.

Logicboy03: makes no difference

what makes no difference, a goat as your family member?

stop fighting over Obama oh, David and Ola. oya sorry ehn my brothers please for Christ sake.

Logicboy03: Your question doesnt make sense.


Why tolerate a foolish Frosbel in the name of tolerance.


Just as I am wrongly assuming that you are foolish, you are wrongly assuming that the atheist is a goat.


Wise up, old man.

I'm Image123 not frosbel, now please answer. Will you tolerate a goat as family?

Logicboy03: Who is the goat you are referring to? Is it the atheist? The atheist is now a goat for his disbelief?


Why should you disturb and be intolerant to people just because of disbelief? After I reconciled with my parents over my disbelief some of my cousins and uncles tried to be intolerant with me. After boycotting them and forbidding my parents to send funds to them, they came begging!


They couldnt not take the intolerance they were giving me.

mr.emotional, just answer this question rationally and stop all this guilt trip. why tolerate a goat as a family member in the name of tolerance? is it rational?

so many unnecessary words said already. I'm always intrigued on why people keep listening to those they don't think credible. Isn't that pharisaic? Seeking to catch them or what, are you voyeurs or something? Now we're all edified, thank you and good night.