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 Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 6:27pm On Nov 19, 2012 |
Logicboy03: lol.....yes, what about the goat brother wanted to learn about tolerance with?does this quote make any sense of any quantity to anybody please? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 2:01pm On Nov 16, 2012 |
musKeeto: Did you find your goat brother?i didnt get the joke.can you answer any of my questions? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 10:52pm On Nov 15, 2012 |
musKeeto: Adam's ipad... I see ur working on your trolling skills.. Hats off to u and vedaxcool, u guys are really putting in some work..you didn't answer the question, i hope you take my advice though. What is really the meaning of 'troll' and 'trolling' by the way? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: @i.chuka & Others Lets Discuss D Revelation 12 Woman And The Marian Apparition. by Image123(m): 9:58pm On Nov 15, 2012 |
plappville: Hahahahaah..........do you even realize that you're insulting me? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 4:01pm On Nov 15, 2012 |
musKeeto: As usual, no original troll thoughts whatsoever...hope you now have a job as i advised ÿou to get one. i see you also need someone to love you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 2:45pm On Nov 15, 2012 |
wow, brethren. You're spoiling the unbelievabers' party na. They were close to having fellowship and whining in persecution, now you're making people laugh. Why are parents so unfair as to force their children to wake up early, bathe, brush, and do house chores. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Ihedinobi And Image 123 let's scripturally discuss the afterlife by Image123(m): 2:19pm On Nov 15, 2012 |
I'm tempted to reply italo and the other one, until i remember that they are not in this discussion, bunch of perveets. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: @i.chuka & Others Lets Discuss D Revelation 12 Woman And The Marian Apparition. by Image123(m): 2:15pm On Nov 15, 2012 |
plappville: bros.. you know you are frequently called olodo in this forum, does that truelly mean you are one? stop trying to prove u know too much. u tht understands, enlighten us plz!your English ALWAYS amuses me, take that as a compliment. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Should I Advice This Guy? by Image123(m): 7:02am On Nov 15, 2012 |
Life is a funny road. D wise depend on dia knees yl fools depend on dia |
| Christianity Etc › Re: @i.chuka & Others Lets Discuss D Revelation 12 Woman And The Marian Apparition. by Image123(m): 6:58am On Nov 15, 2012 |
understandest thou what thou readest? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 6:44am On Nov 15, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Must a child be taught christianity?yep, because true Christianity is a better option for the child and for the world, compared to those men of atheistic philosophies like Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 6:29am On Nov 15, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: Nothing new there. You practically exist under the influence.  Ihedinobi: Nothing new there. You practically exist under the influence. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Ihedinobi And Image 123 let's scripturally discuss the afterlife by Image123(m): 6:28am On Nov 15, 2012 |
okay oh, Mr_Anony, take the time sir. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 7:56pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
dunno about being born atheists, but I'm sure no one was born with an education or a language. These are essentials and every child deserves to be trained and moulded and mentored. Not abandoned to do what he likes. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Ladies Find It So Difficult To Cover Their Hair In Churches Today by Image123(m): 12:25pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
slimming: Stop going round with the issue of covering of hair, Heaven is about salvation.And who said heaven is not about salvation? Do you have more annointing or Holy Ghost or more holiness or more salvation than the write of 1Corinthians 11? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Ladies Find It So Difficult To Cover Their Hair In Churches Today by Image123(m): 12:24pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
emorse: 1 Corinthians 11:15What needs to be said has already been said from verses 1 to 14. Verse 15 is not a get away card from the other verses. 'for her hair is given her for a covering' is not exactly the same thing as 'for her hair is given her as a covering'. If her hair is given to her as a covering, to cover the man's glory, the same verse refutes that basis. The verse says that her hair is her glory. It's rubbish for her to use her glory(her hair) to cover the glory of the man(her head)[using the get away clause team's line of reasoning]. Why cover the glory of the man and leave your own glory uncovered? Her hair is given to her for her to cover it. If she does not want to cover it, let her shave it off. What will be shaven off, is it not the hair, is it the head? Why do people play smart with such simple statements. 1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. (BBE) For if a woman is not veiled, let her hair be cut off; but if it is a shame to a woman to have her hair cut off, let her be veiled. (CEV) A woman should wear something on her head. It is a disgrace for a woman to shave her head or cut her hair. But if she refuses to wear something on her head, let her cut off her hair. (GNB) If the woman does not cover her head, she might as well cut her hair. And since it is a shameful thing for a woman to shave her head or cut her hair, she should cover her head. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Ladies Find It So Difficult To Cover Their Hair In Churches Today by Image123(m): 12:10pm On Nov 14, 2012 |
@Jo The question here is "WHO IS HER HEAD ". Is it christ? Is it head head or husband ? If you check the context it's her husband she dishonor .The context well says what her head is, brother. Her head is her head. And she ought to cover it. Her covering her physical head is symbolic of her submission to divine order. Its usually a question of pride. If not, try asking some of them to cover their head. It is very hard, and a big deal for them, except they want to do it for vogue/fashion, and not out of the motive of obedience and submission. 1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. If you carry on the line of head=husband, what is to be shorn/shaven? Her husband? WHAT is her head is the question if there is need for such a question that has an obvious answer. She dishonours God when she uncovers her head when praying because her glory ought to be covered. "Because of the angels" has to with submission to husband. Angels will resist a woman who doesnt submit to husband authority. Because angels back up every Authority. Husband, parenth ,government etc.You may look it up in all the translations, its saying what i've said. that a woman ought to cover her head. That covering id a symbol, a token, like the translation you offered says, and like i earlier said. It is symbolic, like baptism and communion are symbolic of something more real and spiritual in God's eyes. The point is that angels are involves, therefore it is not just a cultural issue, or dispensational issue. Another question we might ask is. What of those who don't have husbands? Is there a different rule for them? God is not a partial God. Single ladies were not referred to as women, it's married omen that are called such so the matter is a marital issue remember Pail was dealing with DISSORDER . Women were becoming disrespectful in Corinth. Some tries to be domineering and usurping authority . Those were the things Paul was correcting.Wrong question. If it is only addressing the married, why are you not teaching married females to cover their head? You are the one placing this assumption that the verse is only for married folks. The scripture places no such assumption. A woman may be unmarried or married. You do not have to be married to be called a woman. Ever heard this phrase 'married woman' before? duh. The writer makes references to women in general, just men is used in general to mean all male, even sometimes its more general to mean all humans. Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. The woman which hath an husband. A woman may also have no husband. 1Co 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. A woman in this passage refers to both married or unmarried. It is not good for a man to touch a woman, whether married or unmarried. i wonder where you got this definition of a woman to be a married female. 1Co 7:34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. See that? THE UNMARRIED WOMAN, enough said ihope. Note that i've quoted from the same Paul and the same book. Single ladies can be referred to as women. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: All GO's & Religious Leaders Must Go To Prison — Pastor Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 11:36am On Nov 14, 2012 |
Image123: nonsense. This is what comes out of a man who has no message from God. i guess obasanjo and bode George and some of the criminal politicians that have been in prison all know what people are facing, and are acting accordingly. Empty barrels make such loud noise. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Ihedinobi And Image 123 let's scripturally discuss the afterlife by Image123(m): 11:35am On Nov 14, 2012 |
Anony? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 12:07am On Nov 14, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: Lwtmb. Dude, you work at Disney pictures? Or maybe help with Boondocks or some shyt like that? You got talent for satire, you know.the sly one even called it 1000000 to sound incredulous. liar accusing another of lying! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Deal With An Atheist Child by Image123(m): 12:04am On Nov 14, 2012 |
Logicboy03: ^^^^see the way you misread and misunderstood your fellow? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: All GO's & Religious Leaders Must Go To Prison — Pastor Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 10:08pm On Nov 13, 2012 |
nonsense. This is what comes out of a man who has no message from God. i guess obasanjo and bode George and some of the criminal politicians that have been in prison all know what people are facing, and are acting accordingly. Empty barrels make such loud noise. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Fine Example Of Religious Tolerance - *SARCASM* by Image123(m): 11:08pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christians - Do You Believe This? If Not Tell Me Why With Bible Support by Image123(m): 10:43pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
Psalms 119:30 I HAVE CHOSEN the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Fine Example Of Religious Tolerance - *SARCASM* by Image123(m): 10:41pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Image123, are you okay? Your bigotry has exceeded normal on this thread? Has Frosbel been teaching you?it appears you're familiarizing your self with some words? When you're free, do answer my 'simple' question on tolerance,thank you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Fine Example Of Religious Tolerance - *SARCASM* by Image123(m): 10:35pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christians - Do You Believe This? If Not Tell Me Why With Bible Support by Image123(m): 11:24am On Nov 12, 2012*. Modified: 5:56pm On Nov 12, 2012 |
Image123, you are almost blaspheming the Holy Ghost. Be careful! Check all the passages quoted here, the very word of God then tell me if you still think human still has a part to play. For the scriptures you have quoted,BigB, i do not just think that humans have a part to play in their salvation, i know it. i know it because the Bible severally says so. Salvation is conditional. I'm okay with the scriptures you have presented. Every good speaker knows their audience and how to communicate with each audience. It is now left to you the follower of the audience to seek to reconcile and understand the mind of the speaker, out of careful study and experience. i can simply throw back another set of verses showing you that salvation is conditional, but in the end it all depends on you. What do you want, are you willing to understand, or you just want to show us that you have no interest in knowing God or reconciling. The invitation is to all men, and it takes a deep study of scriptures with the aim of understanding to unearth the rich treasures of God's Word and promises.bible passages are not mutually exclusive to one another, but rather complementary. Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 1. 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.To ORDAIN simply means to choose or appoint. God wills and wishes that all men would qualify and be saved, but not all men are chosen or ordained. It's similar to a vacancy. In a vacancy, the position is available but on merit i.e there are conditions. Imagine a position/vacancy by a multinational, say chevron, and then applications are allowed from anybody and any country, man or woman, any religion, any tribe, any blood group etc. There is no discrimination as it were. But there is a laid down, pre-defined standard, even before the vacancy was announced. Candidate must be fluent in this, good with this computer package, not less than 18yrs, etc.. This is a predestination as it were. there is an elect already, a standard. those that do not meet that standard, elect, are not chosen/selected. It is also as a kind of graph. A vector or line with direction can be projected. We can foresee, as it were, and say that in forty years time on y-axis, this is where Quantity A will be on x-axis. Its a similar thing that God does with us. He knows us already, because He can see something we do not see. If you've seen fortune-tellers and palm readers, they can do something like seeing a week's time or even some years time. Its like seeing the graph of that person's life.Some bright minded fellow can be in your organisation, and you say stuff like "i see you becoming the head of this department in a few years". But thank God, we are not just lines, we have a will of our own. We are not helpless robots as it were. We can leave the point we are on, in this graph. Once you leave that point, the graph changes. There's a deviation. that's what we can do. Whether you have been ordained to death or life, it is because of something God saw that made Him to choose you. You can change your future. We are created with such power, created in the image of God. Judas Iscariot was also ordained, but He fell and another had to take his place. We can't talk of taking someone's place if he is still in his place. Judas left his path of 'ordaining' on the graph, and so also can anyone. Mar 3:14 And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach, Mar 3:19 And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into a house. Act 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishopric let another take. Act 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. Read 1 Peter 3:8 then read the below.2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 1Pe 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: Joh 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. Endeavour to read through the passage and get the context. The same passage says, Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. You can't say you truly believe God or have learned from God without accepting Jesus too, and vice versa. they are inseparable. Psa 139:16 You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed.These prove God's omniscience and omnipotence, not predestination as you understand it. That God has determined your time limit does not mean that He will write your exam answers. You still have to write those answers and pass. Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.This is a narration. Like in our analogy, saying "Those who were chosen passed" and " those who passed were chosen". They can have the same meaning, and do have the same meaning except we want to infer that they were not given a level playing ground in the test. Rom 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.Try to understand it in the light of the analogy i gave earlier about chevron and predefined. God gave them a predestination to be conformed to the image of His Son. Not everybody obeys that at the end of the day. It's not a by force thing. That is what God wants, but that's not what always happens as we know from experience and from the Bible as shown through Judas. He drew the graph and knows all the projections. He has set the path, but man can walk out of the path. Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Rom 9:10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac,Understand this in the light of the graph analogy. Rom 9:15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."If God will have mercy on who He will have mercy, it's only logically that you look for those set of people that God will have mercy on. The Bible gives the answer. Search the scriptures, the treasures are not on the surface. Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. Look at the set of people that God will have mercy on. Go and be merciful, or confess and forsake your sins first, and see if God will not have mercy on you first. Rom 9:19 You will say to me then, "Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?"Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. 2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. You may notice that i answered the question posed in your passage. People resist God eveyday. It is just that it has levels, and in the end, God's ultimate will will be fulfilled on earth. All the other passages are similar. take note of this, God invites all and sundry, but not all will be chosen. Many are called but few are chosen. The choosing is based on criteria. The criteria is grace and faith. Grace is what God does, faith is what you do. God has already done His part. Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. We are saved by grace through faith. Faith is for you to believe. And true faith involves repentance, a turning away from evil to good. He that comes to God MUST believe. Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. If there was no part for the individual, it would be most senseless for Jesus to send His disciples to preach the gospel. Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Ladies Find It So Difficult To Cover Their Hair In Churches Today by Image123(m): 12:45am On Nov 12, 2012 |
Joagbaje: Enlightened me na. I teach what I know . If you have contrary view pls explain. At least I quoted from holy bibeliThe covering of the head by the woman was not just a customary thing, but a biblical thing. A godly thing. 1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Head covering is BECAUSE OF THE ANGELS, not only/just because of custom/tradition. It is not limited. Angels are everywhere and in every generation. Head covering is symbolic of submission. There is nothing archaic about symbols. Water baptism is symbolic of something deeper, so also is Holy Communion. It becometh us to fulfill all righteousness. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Secret Of Methuselah's longevity And The Rapture by Image123(m): 12:20am On Nov 12, 2012 |
Joagbaje: Several scriptures indicates Paul was expecting the rapture in his days .No, on the contrary,Paul wrote of how he was about to die, and of how false people and wolves would come in when he left. He knew that no man knew the time of Christ's coming, save the Father. 2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. 2Ti 4:6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 2Ti 4:7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 2Ti 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. Peter also said a similar thing. Paul would not be in a strait/dilemma if he was expecting the rapture to be in his days. They all knew Jesus could come at any time, whether in their lifetime or after. i expect that with all the dust you normally raise on prophecy, you should be familiar with how the Bible writers frequently included themselves 'ín the same spirit of faith', as with the people in the events they were forth telling or even in past events.There is that habit of associating with, if i may use that word, even amongst us today as believers. Compare for instance Isaiah below, Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. They usually went in spirit into the time of the word. i'm hoping you understand these already and that it was just oversight from your part what you earlier said. The Psalms are replete with the writer even going more personal like the event is happening direct to him. So similarly are the words/prayers of Nehemiah and Daniel, e.g Dan 9:5 We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: Neh 1:7 We have dealt very corruptly against thee, and have not kept the commandments, nor the statutes, nor the judgments, which thou commandedst thy servant Moses. In the new testament also, observe some of the below, Heb 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake w[/b]e are killed all the day long; [b]we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Fine Example Of Religious Tolerance - *SARCASM* by Image123(m): 11:50pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
No, i'm not. You don't have to be like your brother, do you? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Fine Example Of Religious Tolerance - *SARCASM* by Image123(m): 8:11pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Point proventhat you cannot tolerate a goat as your family member? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Fine Example Of Religious Tolerance - *SARCASM* by Image123(m): 6:37pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Like I said Image123 and Frosbel are nutjob religious fundamentalist. They will ask the same silly and insulting questions towards atheists but never towards their own religion.is it insulting? sorry, i don't get you. Are you insinuating that you cannot tolerate a goat as a dear family member? |
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