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livingchrist:
The explicitly said that Jesus kingdom will have no end. Luke 1:33

rottennaija:
Yes. Like the Vow of Obedience and Poverty?

Emusan:
And the Son through whom are ALL THINGS



You haven't show me where I said they are the same Person.

Same being means same nature!

No one can share God's nature.

To have God nature is to be God Himself.



You're the one wrong here!

because the Greek word for source were used in those verses.


So you can craw back to your father the first liar.

Mr LIENUS been shouting upanda "Jesus is Jehovah" on NL
Him memory loss?


2 Peter 1:4, the disciples who are "sharers of divine nature na Your Almighty God".
Na so your SENSE reach

Emusan:
And the Son through whom are ALL THINGS



You haven't show me where I said they are the same Person.

Same being means same nature!

No one can share God's nature.

To have God nature is to be God Himself.



You're the one wrong here!

because the Greek word for source were used in those verses.


So you can craw back to your father the first liar.

Mr LIENUS been shouting upanda "Jesus is Jehovah" on NL
Him memory loss?


2 Peter 1:4, "sharers of divine nature na Your Almighty God".
Na so your SENSE reach

Emusan:
And the Son through whom are ALL THINGS



You haven't show me where I said they are the same Person.

Same being means same nature!

No one can share God's nature.

To have God nature is to be God Himself.



You're the one wrong here!

because the Greek word for source were used in those verses.


So you can craw back to your father the first liar.

Barristter07:
Jesus is a creature, existing in his Creators image. He is not the source of creation. But the beginning of it.

All things doesn't come through them at the same time , You this dubious man, Because when the Father made his son Jesus, Jesus doesn't exist . He did through his own agency .




They would have been twins , not Father and son. U lie too much



Thank God it didn't say from whom all things came. We know the Father is the source of all things.

jesusjnr2020:
You have been dodging the simple question for obvious reasons because it trashes all your lies.

What is THE TRUTH I ask you again? Is it the Word of God or God's speech or both?

All those texts you're telling me to read already align with who the THE TRUTH is!

It's only that you're too blind to see it.

John 8:26
"What I heard from my Father I tell the world"

John17:8
" For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them"

John 17:8, Bros, is the "words" referring to Jesus?
Jnr Dullard says Jesus is "Words"


Jnr Dullard can't tell the difference between "the Word", (A spirit person in John 1:1) & "your Words" - (doctrines, commands John 3:34. John 17:8. John 8:26) "What I heard from my Father I tell the world" .

Bros ,STAY your lane.
You have ZERO interest in the truth.

jesusjnr2020:
You've not shown me a single place that proves that God's spoken WORD was not "THE WORD", but just using your own deficient (lack of) understanding and interpretation to denounce my position.

So tell me, if I'm the one taking things out of context, what Word is THE TRUTH that Jesus asked God to sanctify His disciples with in its right context, God's spoken WORD or THE WORD (of God) or both?

John 17:17

Sanctify them through THY TRUTH: THY WORD IS TRUTH.

John 17:19

And for their sakes I sanctify MYSELF, that they also might be sanctified through THE TRUTH.

And why Jesus, THE WORD, sanctified Himself, THE TRUTH, so that they may be sanctified by Himself, THE TRUTH?

Because Jesus is also THE TRUTH.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 3:34
"For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God,...."

John 7:16
Jesus answered, "What I teach is not my own teaching, but it comes from God, who sent me."

For Jesus to teach, he must speak. What did he speak?

Jesusjnr has seen & read John 17:6,8, but his pride and vain ego won't let him admit the biblical truth of John 17:6,8 is referenced at John 17:17.

Bros, Carry your pointless claims to the dustbin

osuulola:
If you consider Jehovah witnesses and Mormons to be Christians, they get them own Bible but apart from those, I know not!

rottennaija:
You know what I see? Hundreds of happy faces below

luvmijeje:
What's the evidence that it is sexual harassment? Are you sure it's not the girls fighting over who wants to be Pastor's wife?

livingchrist:
Jesus is the life himself, tell me something, Jesus said everything him papa get na him own, so what is his father given him that is not his own?
Receive sense

Jesus received from the Source- his Father and God.
Jesus owes his God and Father. John 20:17. Ephesians 3:14-15
.
Without his Father's generousity , Jesus has nothing.
Bros, na your need to receive SENSE

livingchrist:
Jesus received everything Jehovah has that means Jehovah has shared his glory na

livingchrist:
Jehovah gives people authority but has he ever given anyone his position before? Only Jehovah is called the king of kings and the Lord of lords.

Jesus shared the glory of The father with him.
that the father has belongs to Jesus what part of it is not clear.
All the positions/glory/honor of the father also belongs to him.

Emusan:
One thing you've not been able to do is to counter these scriptures.

The same scripture says:

1. Jesus is the source of life/The life/That eternal life.
2. Jesus is the source of creation.
3. Jesus is the source of Salvation
4. Jesus is the source of Faith.

All these put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

livingchrist:
1)
you are yet to provide it was written that all things came through the father, hide your head on shame.
Dont bother with, 'Jesus was given blablabal' because all that Jesus was given are his.

2)
John 16:15
[b]All things that the Father hath are mine[/b]therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

So there is nothing the father has that doesnt belong to Jesus, even if Jesus was given anything or Jesus gave the father anything both of them own it equally.

livingchrist:
I am not the one that wrote John 1vv1.
Yes ooo God gave to Jesus what belongs to him.

John 16:15
All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

And going by logic since men give God thanks, it must not include God
Acts 27:35
And when he had thus spoken, he took bread, and gave thanks to God in presence of them all: and when he had broken it, he began to eat.







same way all that belongs to the father also belongs to the son

John 16:15
All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.


yesoo,
The word Theos occurs 1,315 times in the Greek NT primarily as a title for God the Father.
(Hebrews 12:29, Luke 1:16)
Jesus is also called The God ho theos

Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Jesus is called the true God Ho theos

1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, [/b]and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

I know you will try to say the true God here is talking about the father, but one thing has burst your lies and that is eternal life

1 John 1:2
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us

John identify who the eternal life is, he is the one that was manifested and seen.

On the other hand no man has seen the father.

Jesus is the eternal life that was manifested and he is called the true God Ho theos

LYING clown
John 17:3 and 1 John 5:20 is referencing the Father as the One true God.
"[b]Know Him that is true" - the Almighty Father of Jesus.

John 5:26 . Matthew 28:18, Jesus confessed he Received life, power and authority in the spiritual realm and earthly realm from the Source, his Father.
Bros, nothing you know more than Jesus.


Mathew 27:46 Your own true God begging another Superior Being to rescue him from death.
Na so your SENSE reach
3 pagan spirits devotees always get their "High" from LYING against Jesus

jesusjnr2020:
You must be wiser than Jesus who called both the bolded and Himself "the Truth".

So you should argue with Jesus who said He was both not me!

I'm just repeating what He said.

livingchrist:
then how come Jesus was there in the beginning of creation.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

jesusjnr2020:
Bro go home and sleep. Church don already close.

See how long it took you to reply me to show that your lies against Jesus has been exposed.

If you had any sense of reason, you'd have had a rethink about the false claims you make about Jesus, but of course you're completely blind to the Truth which is the Word of God!

Except the spoken Word is not the Truth but if it is, that's is who Jesus is!

And there's nothing your lies can do about it.

Jesusjnr resorts to lazy Straw man attack

Jesusjnr dullard LYING
John 17:8 "For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them."

John 17:8,17 needs no explaining.

For your mind Jesus is "words you gave me and they accepted them"
LYING dullard.

achorladey:
JWs don't pray like your Pastorpreneurs


CORNER the story enter PASTORPRENEUR. Na PASTORPRENEUR Op dey talk about?

Freshboi87:
Jesus own nothing and yet he is KING of kings and LORD of lords

Rev 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

livingchrist:
sorry, Jesus is the beginning of God's creation means Jesus is the source or of God's creation.
God didnt create satan with stones, what you see in ezekiel is figurative not literally.
Satan was and angel, and all Angels are spirits.

livingchrist:
see how you are all over the thread tormented with the truth, your torment will continue until you one day surrender to Jesus.

livingchrist:
according to watch tower Jehovah can choose to know something's and choose not to know, so can we also say a part of Jehovah knows and a part does not know?
They think we dont know their satanic deep secret
see hypocrisy, tell that to barrister, so God can choose to know or not know something but yet barrister pretends not to know it. Keep exposing yourselves

You & Emusan LIENUS FALSELY claimed Jehovah never select what he foreknows..
Genesis 22:9,12 says you are LYING .
Psalms 115:3 says you are LYING,
Deuteronomy 30:19,20 says you are LYING .
Bros , confirm with your Bible

jonextee:
Good evening Everyone..

I just had an unending series of arguments with both my Religious and Atheist friends about having a relationship with God.

Some claim it's impossible without going to church and Mosques or serving God the religious ways, while the other side claims following and adhering to the basic principles of life is enough to set and maintain a relationship with God.

I have brought this issue to nairaland for experienced and knowledgeable people to have their says.

Please let's keep the ball rolling...

rottennaija:
Which part is false?

livingchrist:
Going by your logic since paul said Jesus is our only Lord then it means the father is not Lord, right?
The use of 'no one' 'only' is limited and can only be understand withing a given context .
Only the father does not exclude the holy Spirit and certainly does not mean the holy spirit is not a person.

MightySparrow:
We are told that God created all things by Jesus, and the scripture says about vthe creation of Satan with ten precious stones. It is equally written Jesus is the beginning of God's creation, what is the raw material God use to create Jesus?

Barristter07:
Father is a person

Holy spirit another person

If both persons knows , Jesus saying ONLY the Father ( a single person ) knows means He lied ? I want an honest answer .

Emusan:
Here is my point again:

Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute.

Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know.

We can as well say Jehovah is lying.

But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus!

Hypocrite!