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eyinjuege:
Maximus69, while you're entitled to your beliefs, when it comes to children certain decisions is made in their best interests.
I'm not interested in arguments on blood transfusions as I know we can never agree on it, and I do respect your beliefs and opinions on it.
You do know it is standard practice worldwide what has just happened to that child. It's not going to be the first case in Nigeria, and it won't be the last. Such cases also occur a lot abroad where the Jehova witness assembly originated from and children that need blood are tranfused whether the parents agree or not..
Perhaps you could do a bit of research and let us know what your church does when such decisions are taken abroad?
What kind of support does your church offer to the families of children transfused? Are such children not allowed back into your fold and the parents have to leave your church? Are such families ostracised? What is usually the way forward for such families?
Pls kindly find out and let me know. Thanks

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In other climes, where the child,( legally termed a 'minor' ) is able to speak for him/herself, the Trial Judge allows the child to give testimony, which the Court takes into cognizance & often determines the judgment on the Court on the issue.


******@2.
Would you ostracise a family member who was violated ?
No child or JW family is ostracised when the court violates their Rights and enforce transfusions of blood.
We offer counsel spiritual and emotional support. JWs are very supportive to any JW family in such unfortunate circumstances..
Galatians 6:10.

When JWs refuse blood transfusions, we insist & desire our right to alternative blood transfusions treatment to be granted and implemented by medical practitioners.
If one hospital rejects our request , it's within our Rights to seek medical treatment elsewhere there in our request is granted.

opejulie10:
It’s past 1 am in the morning and I have been coughing out blood and I have the worst stomach ache and body pains,I am even so scared to close my eyes and sleep for the fear of been stabbed, I slept in my kids room ,the locks are spoilt

Rewind to what happened to the previous day.Yes we have been having issues but he has never lifted his hands to beat me,I called him I was pregnant again with our third child and I don’t know what to do,at the peak of my career,I am pregnant again.

I had my first child was I was 19,I was still in school
I had my second child and I almost lost my job as a temporary staff.
I am permanent staff now and was recently promoted,I am pregnant again, I told him I am confused,anytime I tend to move forward in my life,He doesn’t care about the withdrawal method anymore,He makes sure he cums in me just to ruin and burden me,can’t I be free too for once.
Instead of him to find a soothing words so we would find a solution to it,he walked away from the conversation to the sitting room,after waiting for an hour for him to come back,I decided to go the pharmacy to get drugs for my second child,I came back and the gate was locked,I banged the gate,no one answered,I called his line till from 10pm till 12 am ,he didn’t pick, it dawned on me he intentionally locked me out, I was wearing his boxers and a light top,I had to call my brothers to pick me up so I can sleep and go back home the next morning,I called my mom to report him and she told me, he has called him already to open the gate for me when I return home,I got home yesterday morning and he still didn’t open the gate,our neighbor came outside to get something and I used the opportunity to enter the gate.When I entered he wasn’t bothered,no questions,nothing,he just lied down there looking at me,I was so pained and I questioned him why will he treat me that way knowing my condition,he didn’t even answer,he just pick his incoming call and he was directing a lady to come to our house,I sparked and told him if he should bring any lady in this house he will regret his actions , he told me to repeat myself,out of anger I abused him and threw his phone away,the same phone I have been calling since yesterday and you didn’t pick and a lady called you just once in my presence,the phone didn’t ring twice and you want me to keep mute,I abused him and he punched me in my neck and my stomach,maybe I would have been dead if not for our neighbors,it’s midnight now and I have been coughing out blood and having bad dreams that he is chasing me with a knife, I am scared of staying alone with him at home,my parents said I should go and beg him for forgiveness and move on

But I don’t think I can move on from this,I am making plans quietly to leave this country with my children in the next five years,I can’t endure this anymore but for the main time I will pretend all his fine because of my kids

Coughing of blood is not healthy.
Call your family members NOW to come immediately and take you to the hospital for urgent medical attention.

What's the relationship between your spouse and the lady he spoke with on the phone?
You should have found out before losing your temper and raining abuses on him.
Your marriage has serious issues....

After your treatment , you may need to leave that toxic environment temporarily to recover your health and peace of mind before you plan your next option.
You & your spouse and both families must sit down and seek amicable resolution to douse this " dangerous fire" that's threatening your home and your life
Don't lose your life in the marriage, shuooo !!
Only a mother that is alive and healthy can take care of her kids.
God gave you brain, use it.

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Righteousness89:
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Stop Wasting your Time and Your Life..
Surrender to JESUS CHRIST and Have Peace

John14:1 Jesus said to his disciples, "Don't be worried! Have faith in God and have faith in me." John14:1 & John17:3 are not "wasting of time" I don't need your hypocritical advice.

CaveAdullam:
John 14:9-11
ESV:Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.”
9
ESV:Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
10
ESV:Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works.
11
ESV:Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.

If I may ask who is the Saviour of Christians, God or the Lord Jesus Christ?

Cc AntiChristian, FOLYKAZE, Janosky, MrZENographer, Muttleylaff.

John 17:21-23

21 THAT THEY MAY ALL BE ONE ,JUST AS
YOU, FATHER ARE IN ME, AND I IN YOU THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE IN US,
so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given to them,
THAT THEY MAY BE ONE EVEN AS WE ARE ONE ,
23 I IN THEM and YOU IN ME, THAT THEY MAY BECOME PERFECTLY ONE , so that the world may
know that you sent me and loved them even
as you loved me. "
John 17 :21-23, Jesus has given a perfect response to your twists of John14:9-11.
John14:9-11 not proof of Trinity.
Rather, John14:9-11= John17:20-23= Matt 10:40= 1 Cor 3:23.
Shikena !
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1 John 4:14,15
"We ourselves have seen and bear witness that the Father has sent His son as Saviour of the world"
You don't seem to believe the words of Jesus Christ in John 3:16.

mrZENographer:
@Antichristian

John 10:29 "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.

31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him."

Someone post a comparison of soul, spirit body of man to a Robot's trinity (Hardware, Software and Electricity)

Is the software greater than the hardware, vice versa or equal in power? Take a Stern look at your laptop/phone and answer me.


These three are one.

John14:28. "The Father is greater than I"
You're trying so hard to force your personal twists into the holy Scriptures ..

John 10:36, Jesus says "I am God's son" Christ is not equal to the Father ,Yahweh.
John10:30 = Matt19:5,6= 1Cor3:8=1Cor6:16
> 'One' simply means agreement, unity.
John 10:30 Jesus means he is in agreement with the Father, Yahweh.= John 17:20-23.
Stop twisting the holy Scriptures.

orunto27:
Read The Book of Hebrew Chapter one.

Hebrew 1:8,9 is a repeat of Psalm 45:6,7.
Psalm 45:6-7 The Message (MSG)
6-7
“Your throne is God’s throne,
ever and always;
The scepter of your royal rule
measures right living.
You love the right
and hate the wrong.
And that is why God, your very own God,
poured fragrant oil on your head,
Marking you out as king
from among your dear companions."
Compare 1 Chronicle 29:23. Rev 3:21. Lamentations 5:19. 2 Sam7:12-16.

Any rendition of Hebrew 1:8 radically different from Psalms 45:6,7 (MSG.NWT) is simply a FRAUD to back up the Trinity fraud.

mrZENographer:
You simply lack understanding like a one-celled organism. Ask God for wisdom, knowledge and understanding. He will give you. James 1:5

Revelation 3:5,12
5 He who overcomes shall
be clothed in white garments, and I will not
blot out his name from the Book of Life; but
I will confess his name before My Father and
before His angels.
12 He who overcomes, I will make
him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he
shall go out no more. I will write on him the
name of My God and the name of the city of
My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes
down out of heaven from My God. And I will
write on him My new name."
Compare John20:17,30,31.
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Revelation 3:5,12, Jesus Christ is telling you to apply your comments to yourself, & RECEIVE SENSE.

Righteousness89:
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Ok sir!

Surrender your Self to JESUS CHRIST..

Your advice reeks of hypocrisy, wayo man.
You cancelled out John 14:1 and John17:3 , the very words of Jesus Christ wey you say make I surrender to...

mrZENographer:
ANGEL MICHEAL IS NOT JESUS CHRIST.

1 John 5:7 " there are three that bear witness in Heaven. The Father, The Word, The Holy ghost. These three are one.

Stop quoting 1John5:7, that KJV FRAUD is NOT part of the holy Scriptures.
No dull yourself.
Malachi 3:1 ,Jesus is the foretold angel of the covenant.
Jesus Christ with an archangel's voice leads other sons of God in battle.
2 Thess1:7-9. 1Thess4:16. Mark8:38.

Jesus Christ is the Chief (Archangel) of angels.

mrZENographer:
ANGEL MICHEAL IS NOT JESUS CHRIST.

1 John 5:7 " there are three that bear witness in Heaven. The Father, The Word, The Holy ghost. These three are one.

Stop quoting 1John5:7, that KJV FRAUD is NOT part of the holy Scriptures.
Malachi 3:1 ,Jesus is the foretold angel of the covenant.
Jesus Christ with an archangel's voice leads other sons of God in battle.
2 Thess1:7-9. 1Thess4:16. Mark8:38.

Jesus Christ is the Chief (Archangel) of angels.

CaveAdullam:
Yes. A woman can be a Pastor/Apostle without having authority over men in the church. Her duty in that office is to minister Christ Jesus and His Gospel.

The office of a Pastor, Apostle, Evangelist, Teacher, Prophet is under the authority of an Elder/Bishop/General overseer.

Meanwhile, an Elder/Bishop/General overseer can also play a perfect role in any of the offices above.


If you say so solite3. But what about the question below

Is 1 Corinthians 12:28 and Ephesians 4:11 gender specific? Please don't invade this question this time around. 

1 Corinthians 12:28
KJV:And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Ephesians 4:11
KJV:And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

God fearing Women were followers of Christ
(John20:1-3,11-18.).
Women were evidently ministers of the gospel. Preaching and teaching knows no gender . Psalms 68:11. Acts5:42. Mark13:10. Matt 24:14. Matt 28:20
However, no woman was named in any position of authority among the apostles or in the early first century Christian congregation.
(Acts 13:1. Acts15:1-3. Acts 21:8. 1 Cor11:3.)

MOSICATED5:
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if we go by your explanation of abstainance it means when you shouldn't touch blood at all. So you can't kill a chicken because you should abstain from its blood.

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The watchtower teach accept blood in fractions . It that abstainance too?

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Abstain from ingesting blood into your body or into your bloodstream.
Transfuse drugs with needle and swallow with your mouth, produces same results.
Tranfuse blood with needles and eat/swallow with your mouth... same end results.
Abstain from blood Acts15:28-29.

***@2)
There are products derived from blood which
Jehovah's Witnesses may choose to accept.
Jehovah’s Witnesses commonly call these
'minor blood fractions'. Just a few potential
uses of blood fractions include injections to
prevent infection, a buffering ingredient in a
medication, or part of a surgical sealant.
Many persons would see these uses as
rather different from a blood transfusion.
Some have misunderstood 'minor blood
fraction' to mean a small quantity of whole
blood transfusions.

To clarify this, let's use the analogy
of a pie to try to express what a minor blood
fraction is. In this analogy, a minor blood
fraction would not be akin to a small piece
of the pie. Rather a minor blood fraction is
like a small ingredient that went into the
making of the pie.
Let's put it in another way,
Globulin is a minor component of the egg white we eat (it's also blood fraction) does eating eggs equate with eating blood?
Definitely not !

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MOSICATED5:
Show me one verse where the Bible says you shouldn't take blood transfusions. The day you starting reading the Bible without wearing you watchtower googles is the day you will receive salvation.
Like you said the Bible says taking blood and taking blood amount to drinking blood just like say I took tea. The Bible didn't mention blood transfusion. I dare you to show me that from the Bible

Doing blood oath,where does that blood enter?
Doing blood transfusions, where does that blood enter?
OR
drink blood, where does that blood enter ?
In all these different scenarios, the blood goes inside your body, do you agree ?

The Bible's Commands, "Abstain from blood" Acts 15:28-29.
Your doctor says "Abstain from sex ", you go ahead to practice anal or do mouth action, have you heeded your doctor's instructions?

Your God given brain is not just for fancy....
1 Samuel 15:22. Hebrew 11:17-19

OLAADEGBU:
Fake News.

Who Olaadegbu wan deceive?
FACTS DON'T LIE... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1482021.stm



Thursday, 9 August, 2001, 22:50 GMT 23:50 UK "Aids scandals around the world Many families blamed politicians for the contamination China is the latest country to admit that Aids is cutting a swathe through its population, but Aids-related scandals have dogged many other countries since the 1980s and 1990s. One of the most high-profile cases was that of France's tainted blood scandal, which saw a former health minister convicted for failing adequately to screen blood which led to the deaths from Aids of five people, and the contamination of two others during a key period in 1985. Aids scandals around the world France: About 4,000 given infected blood in the mid-1980s Canada: About 2,000 people infected before blood tests began in 1985 Italy: Some 1,300 people have died from infected blood infusions since 1985 Japan: Over 1,400 haemophiliacs were exposed to HIV through tainted blood; at least 500 thought to have died Two French ministers were acquitted of manslaughter. About 4,000 people, many of them haemophiliacs, were given blood infected with the virus. Many of those contaminated have since died. In most cases they received transfusions before the link between HIV, Aids and blood was fully understood. All three politicians were alleged to have delayed the introduction of a US blood- screening test in France until a rival French product was ready to go on the market. No blood tests In April of this year, Canada's Supreme Court found the Canadian Red Cross guilty of negligence for failing to screen blood donors effectively for HIV infection. Three suits were brought against the Red Cross by people who received tainted blood. Two of them subsequently died of Aids and the third is HIV positive. Blood was not always properly screened About 2,000 people were infected with HIV and up to 60,000 with Hepatitis C before blood tests began in late 1985. Blood tests for Aids had not been developed at the time, so screening of donors was the most effective way of preventing infection. In Italy, a Rome court ordered the Health Ministry in June of this year to pay damages to 351 people who contracted the HIV virus and hepatitis through blood transfusions. The court said the ministry was too slow to introduce measures to prevent the virus being spread by donated blood, and did not establish proper checks on plasma. About 100 of the victims - all haemophiliacs - have already died, but the court ruled that their families were entitled to the compensation. Angelo Magrini, the head of a haemophiliacs' association, said at the time 1,300 people, including almost 150 children, had died in Italy from infected blood infusions since 1985. Cover-up In March this year, a court in Tokyo cleared a former top Aids expert of professional negligence over a scandal that exposed thousands to the HIV virus through tainted blood products. The high-profile scandal, which grabbed headlines in the mid-1990s, shocked Japan with allegations of a government cover-up and unethical links between big business and bureaucrats. Japan's Health Ministry did not ban unheated blood products until December 1985, despite knowing they risked being tainted with HIV. Over 1,400 Japanese haemophiliacs were exposed to HIV as a result, and more than 500 are believed to have died. In February 2000, three former drug company executives accused of selling blood products tainted with HIV were given prison terms. Negligence charges In Iran in the late 1990s, the former head of Iran's blood transfusion centre also went on trial over allegations that patients contracted the HIV virus after receiving contaminated blood. Dr Farhadi and two other doctors faced several charges including negligence in importing HIV-tainted supplies from France. The case followed complaints lodged by families of some 170 people, many of them children, suffering from haemophilia and the blood disease thalassemia. The prosecution at the time said hundreds of people had contracted diseases including HIV and hepatitis through contaminated transfusions. Contagion And in Portugal, a court indicted a former health minister over an Aids scandal dating back to her time in office during the 1980s. The court said the minister, Leonor Beleza, should be tried for propagating a contagious disease. The decision refers back to a case in which more than 100 Portuguese haemophiliacs were infected with the Aids virus after receiving transfusions of contaminated plasma that had been imported and distributed by the public health service. Regional picture Africa devastated European hotspots Background What is Aids? Race to find a cure Aids drugs factfile Case studies Argentina's young victims SA plant 'fights' Aids Bad blood in China Thai Aids fears Russia's crisis CLICKABLE GUIDE Aids in Africa World at a glance TALKING POINT Is enough being done to combat Aids? See also: 19 Jun 01 | Europe Italian Aids victims to get damages 20 Apr 01 | Americas Canadian Red Cross negligent in HIV screening 28 Mar 01 | Asia-Pacific Doctor cleared in HIV scandal 30 Nov 00 | Asia-Pacific Asia's burgeoning Aids epidemic 09 Jun 99 | Middle East Contaminated blood AIDS trial in Iran 09 Mar 99 | Europe Acquittals in French blood trial 19 Nov 98 | Europe Former Portuguese minister indicted over AIDS scandal 08 Apr 99 | Medical notes Blood: The risks of infection

OLAADEGBU:


Fake News.

Shame on you, OLAADEGBU FRAUD...

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-48596605


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What is the contaminated blood scandal?
By Nick Triggle
Health correspondent
14 June 2019
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UK contaminated blood inquiry
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The infection of up to 30,000 people with
contaminated blood has been called the
biggest treatment disaster in NHS history.
Thousands have died.
A public inquiry is now under way - but
what is already known about the scandal?
Who was affected?
People with haemophilia and other bleeding
disorders were given blood infected with HIV
and hepatitis viruses, during the 1970s and
1980s.
It was the result of a new treatment intended
to make their lives better. A clotting agent
called Factor VIII was introduced to help
their blood clot.
Before this, patients faced lengthy stays in
hospital to have transfusions, even for minor
injuries.
People who had blood transfusions after an
operation, or childbirth, are also thought to
have been exposed.
About 5,000 people are believed to have
been infected - but some estimates put the
number at 30,000. Nearly 3,000 people have
died.
The public inquiry has heard the stories of
some of those affected.
One of the first to take the stand was Derek
Martindale, who has haemophilia . He was 23
when he was diagnosed with HIV and given
a year to live, in 1985. He survived but his
brother - who was also infected with HIV -
did not.
How did it happen?
The UK was struggling to keep up with
demand for the Factor VIII blood clotting
treatment, so supplies began to be imported
from the US.
But much of the human blood plasma used
to make it came from donors such as prison
inmates and drug-users, who sold their
blood.
These groups were at higher risk of blood-
borne viruses.
However, at the time, HIV had not been
diagnosed and understanding about
hepatitis was still developing.
The risk of contamination was raised further
because Factor VIII was made by pooling
plasma from up to 40,000 donors and
concentrating it.
How long did this last?
By the mid-1980s, once it was clear HIV
was blood-borne, the products started to be
heat-treated, to kill the viruses.
But questions remain about how much was
known before this time.
Despite these precautions, some of the
contaminated blood products remained in
circulation and continued to be used.
Screening of all blood products began in
1991.
And by the late 1990s, synthetic treatments
for haemophilia became available, removing
the infection risk.
What are the aims of the inquiry?
This UK-wide inquiry now under way is the
first that can demand that witnesses give
evidence.
It comes after decades of campaigning by
victims, who claim the risks were never
explained and the scandal was covered up.
The government has been strongly criticised
for dragging its heels.
Infected blood victim 'wanted to die'
Blood inquiry seeks answers at last
The secret in my blood
Liz Hooper: The woman who lost two
husbands to the scandal
A previous, privately funded inquiry held no
official status. It could not compel witnesses
to testify, or demand the release of
important documents.
In Scotland, a seven-year investigation was
criticised as a "whitewash" when it was
published in 2015.
The current inquiry, due to last two years,
was announced only after the UK
government faced a possible defeat in a
Commons vote demanding one.
Have people been infected elsewhere in the
world?
There have been thousands of cases of
people being given infected blood in the US.
But other countries also imported blood
products during the 1970s and 1980s.
In Europe, cases in France, Ireland, Portugal
and Italy have been identified. Japan,
Canada, Iran and Iraq have also been
caught up in the scandal.
In the US, companies that supplied infected
products have paid out millions of dollars in
out-of-court settlements.
In other countries, politicians and drug
companies have been convicted of
negligence.
None of that has happened in the UK -
although victims have been given limited
financial support.
At the opening of the inquiry, it was
announced that criminal trials could follow."
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OLAADEGBU is FRAUD and bigot.

Righteousness89:
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Young Man , Heaven is Real! Hell is Real!
Lazarus is in Heaven as we speak
The Rich man is still in Hell as we speak..

Make your Choice on who u will meet on the other side!

Arguments and Counter arguments have no benefit on you in Eternity..

Accepting JESUS CHRIST is all you Should now..

There is no place for Argument on the other side..

He That Hath Ears, Let Him Hear..

Jakpa comments...
Your delusion is not defensible.....
Accepting JESUS CHRIST is all you Should now..= Half truth,

Jesus Christ disagree with you. John 14:1. 17:3 TRUTH

mrZENographer:
Your scriptural preferences are immaterial. I have quoted the scripture to you.

The Father, Son and Holyghost are one.

Pls put 1 JOHN 5:7 KJV FRAUD for dustbin.

John 5:37. 6:46. 14:1.
You belong to Christ & Christ belongs to God"
1 Cor 3:23. Compare Matt 10:40.
Rev 3:5,12 compare Matt 10:32-33 & John20:17.
Receive sense F. O. C

mrZENographer:
Your scriptural preferences are immaterial. I have quoted the scripture to you.

The Father, Son and Holyghost are one.

1 JOHN 5:7 KJV,FRAUD !

mrZENographer:
Your scriptural preferences are immaterial. I have quoted the scripture to you.

The Father, Son and Holyghost are one.

FRAUD !

mrZENographer:
God created us in his own image and likeness.
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, "let US create man in OUR own image and after OUR own likeness.

.

Gen 1:27
"So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them; male
and female he created them."

In Genesis 1:27, "In His own image" , "His" ,na how many people?
"He created them", "He" na how many person?

OLAADEGBU:
Biblical Basis for Shunning?

If anyone was deserving of being shunned, according to bible principles upon which Jehovah’s Witnesses base their beliefs on, it would have been Judas Iscariot. He betrayed Jesus Christ for the price of a slave: 30 pieces of silver. Yet, the bible says that Jesus called him a friend. Yes, Jesus referred to Judas as a friend, or comrade, even when he knew Judas gave him the kiss of death. He never shunned Judas even though he knew that Judas was going to betray him. – Matthew 26:49-50, John 13:18-30

Another person who may have been deserving of shunning, according to the edicts of Jehovah’s witnesses, was the Apostle Peter. He vehemently denied Jesus three times. Yet, what did Jesus do a few days later? Jesus had a meal with Peter and the other disciples where Jesus urged Peter to continually follow him (John 21:12-19). Before his death and before Peter’s denial, Jesus promised Peter the keys of the kingdom of the heavens (Matthew 16:19). Clearly, Jesus did not shun Peter nor did he take away any of his privileges. Yet, these are the things that happen all too often for Jehovah’s Witnesses when they confess sins, even if they are repentant. Truly, if one of Jehovah’s Witnesses was to deny their Governing Body’s self-appointed position as God’s mouthpiece on earth, they will be stripped off their privileges, disfellowshipped and shunned. Really, if the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses imitate Jesus Christ as their mediator and Head of the Christian Congregation, surely they should be following his example. Instead, they quickly move to remove any sort of dissent amongst the ranks using scriptures that do not support such actions.

Jesus ate and drank with sinners. He was known for that. The Pharisees even pointed to this when they tried to condemn Jesus. Yet, he shunned no one. What if Jesus was confronted with someone who was caught in the act of sin, 100% guilty? And let’s just say, for instance, this sin was deserving of the death penalty in those times. What would Jesus do? No need to wonder. Just read John 8:2-11. You cannot read these verses in the 2013 edition of the New World Translation but they are available to read in the 1984 edition. Compare Luke 19:1-9, John 4:1-26.

https://avoidjw.org/en/avoiding-witnesses/disfellowshipping-biblical-teaching/

Jesus called Judas friend, Yes.
OLAADEGBU, come here and lie that Judas Iscariot went to heaven.


https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/07/02/deeper-life-suspends-kumuyis-son-wife/



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The son of your god of men who did not commit serious sin as Peter's sin was given punishment.

Hypocrisy wound you there.

OLAADEGBU:
https://avoidjw.org/en/avoiding-witnesses/disfellowshipping-biblical-teaching/

Mumu post from the mumuish kumuyi worshipper.
You dey post screenshots to back your claims,yet you twists the whole narrative in your screenshots. Kai !!!!!!

In your screen shots, "the Encyclopedia Britannica says that papal excommunications is not without pagan influences".
In other words, 'Shunning' as practiced by the Vatican (reference point , the excommunications of king Federick II is an example. " The monks stirred the populace , To plot against him, to attempted murder by poison or by sword was accounted virtuous ".
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Kumuyi worshipper, who did Jesus kill or commanded to be killed in the name of excommunications?
Why was the "shunning" process selective, for instance , for Hitler ,Tito & Mussolini in spite of all the atrocious evidences against them ?
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The Watchtower faulted the way & manner it was done in the RCC, as unchristian.
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OLAADEGBU lie lie twister , tueh !!!!

OLAADEGBU:
If Jesus shed His precious blood to give me life, what stops me from giving life (blood) to those who need it to survive?

LIAR .
You're twisting the biblical narrative.

Name the persons who received blood transfusions from Jesus Christ..

OLAADEGBU:
That is why I am alerting unsuspecting folks as to the danger of joining this deadly cult, many have died as a result of this evil theology.

Mumu post.
The same blood transfusions mumu, deceptive theology you promoted killed thousands ,if not millions of people worldwide.
Over 5,000 in France alone are probably resting in their graves because of your mumu deceptive theology.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1993/05/29/transfusion-of-death/3ed7e15d-ee76-46b6-ad1b-13d133fcbf93/

OLAADEGBU:
Let's revisit this death-cult called JW's stand on blood transfusion.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/transfusions-kill-patients-say-doctors-1070012.html

Transfusions kill patients, say doctors
Jeremy Laurance |
@
jeremylaurance
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BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS given routinely to
tens of thousands of critically ill patients
may be killing them, doctors have found.
Canadian researchers have found that giving
extra blood, despite its essential role in
maintaining life, can cause more harm than
good in those who have been thought in
greatest need of it.
The unexpected finding, from a study of
more than 800 critically ill patients, will
deliver a serious blow to the idea of accident
victims being stretchered into hospital with
a bag of life-giving blood suspended above
them.
Doctors had assumed that any means of
boosting oxygen supply to the body's
tissues in those who were seriously ill
would improve their chances of survival. But
the Canadian research shows that critically
ill patients who received more blood were
up to twice as likely to die as those who
received less.
In Britain, an estimated 800,000 patients
receive blood transfusions each year, most
after routine surgery, and demand for blood
is rising. Using less blood would also save
costs and conserve a scarce resource.
The aim of a transfusion is to restore levels
of haemoglobin, the oxygen- carrying
constituent of red blood cells. Normal levels
of haemoglobin range from 14 to 17 grams
per decilitre. In the Canadian study, half of
the 838 seriously unwell patients were given
enough blood to raise their haemoglobin
over 10 grams per decilitre, while the other
half were restricted to only 7-9 grams per
decilitre, half the normal level. One third of
the restricted group received no blood at
all.On average the restricted group received
three units of blood (one and a half litres)
less than the unrestricted group - but more
of them survived. Among patients under 55
and the less severely ill, those who received
less blood (or no blood at all) were half as
likely to die as those who received more.
The only exceptions were patients with heart
attacks and unstable angina (chest pain).
Dr Paul Hebert and his colleagues from the
University of Ottawa say in the New England
Journal of Medicine: "Our findings indicate
that the use of a threshold ... as low as 7
grams of haemoglobin per decilitre ... was at
least as effective as and possibly superior to
a liberal transfusion strategy ... in critically
ill patients."
It is well-known that giving too much blood
or other infusions can cause heart attacks
or water on the lungs because of the effort
required to pump the extra liquid round the
body. But the researchers found these
factors could not explain the differences
they found.
In a commentary on the findings, Wesley Ely
and Gordon Bernard of the Vanderbilt
School of Medicine, Nashville, say it is
difficult to explain the harm caused by
liberal transfusion. One possibility is that a
transfusion, like a transplant, delivers a
shock to the immune system. "Harmless"
viruses in the blood may also be implicated.
They say more trials are needed to
determine the best treatment for critically ill
patients. "With such knowledge, more
physicians will be able to adhere to the
dictum `first do no harm', and we will have
a surplus of blood for transfusion rather
than a shortage."
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OLAADEGBU, triune pagan gods devotee, "
Medical science says blood transfusions KILLS.

Intravenous fluids infusion = blood transfusions= taking blood oath= feeding., it's all going into your body.
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"ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD" Acts 15:28-29.
Simple and straight forward, OBEDIENCE.
Matt10:32-39. Hebrew 11:17-19. Phil2:8. 1Sam15:22,Abraham and Jesus Christ knew that Obedience has it's price.
It's above the levels of triune pagan gods devotees and NL Churchians to comprehend.

Mcuzy:
I gave up on witnesses the day a mother who is their member refused to attend her child's wedding because he attends another Church and after she was forced to attend by family members she was ostracized!! pls save your energy my brother .

Not true....
She wasn't ostracized because of her child's wedding...
You don't actually know the exact issue rather you're here twisting the matter.

WINDSOW:
I guess your Jesus drank from the wine? You twist the scripture to ease your hypocritical lifestyle!

WINDSOW:
Baba tthanks! I just wana show them they are no monopoly of stupidity & hypocrisy. I appreciate baba.

For your mumu brain, Jesus Christ no "drink the wine" but he dey make wine give people make them dey sin...
It's same as someone saying that Drug barons are not criminals,they're only making money.
You deceive yourself.

WINDSOW:
You just define what u stand for. Hypocrite!

John 2:1-11 New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Changes Water Into Wine
2 On the third day a wedding took place at
Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, 2
and Jesus and his disciples had also been
invited to the wedding. 3 When the wine was
gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have
no more wine.”
4 “Woman,why do you involve me?”
Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.”
5 His mother said to the servants, “Do
whatever he tells you.”
6 Nearby stood six stone water jars, the
kind used by the Jews for ceremonial
washing, each holding from twenty to thirty
gallons.
7 Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars
with water”; so they filled them to the brim.
8 Then he told them, “Now draw some out
and take it to the master of the banquet.”
They did so, 9 and the master of the
banquet tasted the water that had been
turned into wine. He did not realize where it
had come from, though the servants who
had drawn the water knew. Then he called
the bridegroom aside 10 and said,
“Everyone brings out the choice wine first
and then the cheaper wine after the guests
have had too much to drink; but you have
saved the best till now.”
11 What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee
was the first of the signs through which he
revealed his glory; and his disciples believed
in him."

WINDSOW ,does feeding make someone a glutton?
You're obviously more holier than Jesus Christ who turned water into wine..... Lols.
You deceive yourself...

paulGrundy:
when Jesus was on earth he didn't put any stamp or endorsement on any group. the selfishness and narcissism of man made him to create creeds and organizations, denominations to draw attention to himself causing avoidable deaths, and the social vices in the world today.


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Sofry dey lie small small..
***** Matt 5:20
" For I tell you that unless your
righteousness surpasses that of the
Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you
will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven"

Matt 28:20 "teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you",
To whom did Jesus Christ address both statements?

Seun:
Religious beliefs should be respected to the extent that they are harmless. The more harmful a religious belief is, the less respect it deserves. Beneficial religious beliefs like the belief in honesty and kindness are worthy of respect. Religious beliefs that cause unnecessary deaths are the most harmful in my view, so they deserve the lowest level of respect.

Is blood transfusions the only effective risk free mode of medical treatment?

Can you vouch that blood transfusions doesn't cause "unnecessary deaths"?

I taya for "educated people"





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