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PastorAIO:
Who was talking to you? I'm in no mood for talking to mad men.

What do you think you are you doing by posting your comments in a thread of "mad men" you are "in no mood for talking to" ?
"Mad men" dey yarn you come into their midst & say your thoughts,yet you're not "mad" .
Pastor be honest to yourself jare...

nikky5:
This article is strictly for Christian women who moan during conjugation. This is very wtong and ungodly. Godly women don't moan during sexual intercourse. Most men don't like like especially when it is so loud and some detest even the mildest of it. It shows how depraved the woman is. A very clear symptom of carnality. It's a sign of lack of self control.

About a decade ago during one of John Hagee's sermons, he concluded by saying that women who call the the name God during such act should be sent to jail. Some even scream the name of Jesus and speak in tongues. Too bad.

I heard of a story how a woman and her granddaughter spent the first wedding night with a newly married couple. The screaming was so loud loud and disgusting in the dead of the night. The little girl of seven woke up and asked grandma why aunty was crying and making so much noise. The grandma was very polite with her response. "They are making babies," she told her and asked her to go back to sleep.

The first time my wife did that I was shocked. I had to take her for deliverances from the spirit of lust and moaning . I have that believe that it's only women of easy virtues does that. Since then she reduced the tempo of the moaning but humed hymns silently. Amazing Grace is her favourite

There was another scenario that happened where I lived about fifteen years ago at Ajegunle. These couple have had five children. The midnight moaning usually starts with a loud shout in Ibibio language Then singing follows almost immediately. The next thing you is the man's thick baritone voice shouting 'What! What in English. She will then reply with curses and the man will be replying amen. She will be raining curses on whoever will take away honey from her mouth. What honey my brethren? It got to a climax on night that the landlord had to intervene.He had been awake from 2am to 4am. The weather was very hot too and the mosquitoes had a party.

The old man knocked their door in their one room apartment and there was silence. Then the man appear in wrapper and topless with heavy sweat drops cascading his his face and chest. They both stared at each other for a while before the old man broke the silence. He pleaded that the man should get another apartment before the end of the month that his house is not a brothel. How can a woman with five children be bahaving like that.

The man replied that he was not owing and that he was enjoying his money. It can be as bad as that. The rest tenants threatened to call in the police any time these couple should keep them awake in the dead night They usually induce their children with drugs so that they will not know what was happening in the nigh. They do it six time in a week .

Men don't moan. Even when they do you cannot hear it. Any man who moans loudly must have been visiting prostitutes who taught him.It is sinful for men to moan during sexual activities. It's a sign of weakness and carnality.

What does a couple stand to gain by moaning during sexual intercourse,? One medical lady was addressing a group of women in a church. She encouraged them to moan loudly during sexual intercourse with their spouse. She told them that it assist the man to reach the mountain top.

Secondly, is the quality of babies that would be produced. They will be normal children and endowed with high Intelligent quottient(,IQ). She told them this and I almost cursed her that women who don't moan give birth to imbeciles. What arrant nonsense. In a sane society she ought to be arrested.

This goes to show how carnal and depraved some Christian's can be. Report your spouse to your pastor for prayers if he or she moans during sexual intercourse.

This is Nonsensical.
Abeg shift, jare.....
OP, you no try at all..... your wife is silently crying because of your enforced sufferation in the other room..
She is suffering,if only you knew.......
I pray make she no go one day do you something way your mouth no go fit talk....

BTW, Which biblical injunction forbids married couples in the other room from moaning a series of Hallelujahs on their way to the Promised Land?

shadeyinka:
Thank you for the answers
1. Are angels spirits alive or inanimate?

I agree with you that spirits are alive.

2. What is the "being" in an angel?
(As you said, "supernatural being"
I agree that spirits have parts of the body, can move, etc
3. A
But, of God's spirit give them life, what actually is God giving life.
3B.
For a human being: when God's spirit exits, the body becomes lifeless (dead).
What happens when God's spirit leaves an angel?

You didn't answer this question well.

Thank you

@2 "Supernatural being" = Spiritual body/entity (in the spiritual realm, eg Angels, demons,Yahweh).

@3A.
Yahweh by means of creation, gave life to all creatures in the spiritual realm (eg angels) as well as the physical realm (eg man).
************
3B..
You have to understand this clearly...
When the life force (breath of life,/"spirit" expires ("returns to God, -the Source of Life- who gave it" ), the living soul is now dead soul.
*************
Only God (the Source of Life) can "return" the life force /breathe of life/"spirit" back to the dead soul by means of Resurrection, that's the import of Eccl12:7.


The GREAT difference is this:
God's holy spirit is NOT the life force/"spirit" of Ecclesiastics12:7 =Gen2:7. Psalms 104:29-30. Job27:2-3.
God's spirit (that is his holy spirit) exited from king Saul, was he dead?
The life force was still in King Saul.
But the king simply lost Yahweh's approval.
1 Samuel 16:14. 18:12.
Saul was alive physically but 'dead spiritually' to Yahweh. Compare 2Tim2:16-18.1Tim1:20
*** Romans 8:10-11 explains it clearly.
Romans 8:10-11
" But if Christ is in you, your body is dead
because of sin, yet your spirit is alive
because of righteousness. 11 And if the
Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the
dead lives in you, He who raised Christ
Jesus from the dead will also give life to
your mortal bodies through His Spirit, who
dwells in you."
****************

Rebel Angels (& human backsliders ) lose God's holy spirit & await judgment of destruction... Jude 1:6-7.Hebrew10:37-39.
Likewise, ALL who lose God's holy spirit...

shadeyinka:
See how you're just bent on avoiding to answer a simple question.

Are angels not spirits according to JW doctrine? Is a spirit not just a "life giving force"?
Only if you negate your belief in these two may you avoid the question which I repeat here again.

I asked you again:
If angels are spirits (life giving force) , what is their spirit giving life since they don't have a body?
(Note: At least it could make sense to say that the life giving force of a man gives life to his body)

Pls desist from posting your personal TWISTs & claim it's JW doctrine.....

Yahweh is a spirit, is HE simply a life force?
Angels are spirits, are they simply life force?
1 Cor15:44-49, physical body exists on earth, like the first Adam.
Spiritual body (God & angels) in heaven, exposure of your fallacious twists.

Was Adam in the spirit realm before his creation on earth? Definitely No....
Yahweh breathed the life force (breath of life) into Adam and he became a living soul.
Gen2:7.Psalms 146:3,4. Psalms104:29-30. Job27:2-3 = (equal to) Ecclesiastics12:7.
The life force (in Gen2:7) returns to Yahweh who gave it &Adamu yamutu to dust....(in Eccl12:7).
"Spirit" in Eccl 12:7 is NOT a reference to spiritual body/being but to breath of life....
BlueAgent has touched on this points but you refuse to see......
Mr Shadeyinka, receive sense..

[quote author=Janosky post= ].[/quote]https://starconnectmedia.com/why-ray-ekpu-goofed-disgraced-journalism-in-his-fanatical-witnesses/



EDITORIAL
Why Ray Ekpu goofed, disgraced journalism
in his Fanatical Witnesses
By starconnect
Posted on February 1, 2020
      COMMENTS
--------------
Allegations and conclusions reached by
Ray Ekpu in his article are misleading,
others are at best half truth while the
rest are insults and outright falsehood.
One of the main tenets of journalism is
that while opinions are free, facts are
scared
Emmanuel Thomas l Saturday, February 01,
2020
L AGOS, Nigeria – Among the legendary
statements ever uttered by man which I
cherish so much is that by Othman
Danfodio, he said that “Conscience is an
open wound, only truth can heal it” that is
why I have a tremendous respect for men
like Ray Ekpu, a man who has spent nearly
50 years in a relentless and vigorous
pursuit of such truth.
As a veteran journalist, prolific writer,
administrator and a renowned columnist,
Ray’s analysis and opinion on diverse
issues can be authoritative.
Mr. Ray Ekpu, a former editor of the now
defunct, News Watch Magazine
For those of us who have followed his
writings over the years, it is no exaggeration
to conclude that he is a master of the prose
genre as he practically takes one on a
journey of free flowing prose so captivating
that you do not want to stop until you have
finished reading his article.
Ray is also a courageous writer, not afraid
to bare his mind on diverse issues. Perhaps,
it was with such zeal and zest that he took
me on a journey in his weekly column of
Daily Sun Tuesday, 28 January 2020. In an
article entitled ” Fanatical Witnesses” the
columnist of repute made series of
allegations against Jehovah’s Witnesses
starting with this statement.
´The religious group that calls itself
Jehovah’s Witnesses is a very unique group
in Christendom. They hold their Church
services on Saturday not Sundays. They do
not sing the national anthems of the
countries in which they live. They do not
respect the national flag. They hold
themselves as outlaws and do not give to
Caesar what is Caesar’s they think that their
duty is only to give God what is God’s”
One of the few things I still remember about
my philosophy class, an elective course I
chose as a student in the University over 20
years ago is that there are two ways of
finding out truth.
The first is “Logical coherence” while the
second is empirical investigation. Today, I
believe there are more ways of finding out
truth but I will stick to the two ways I know
which are timeless in appeal and efficacy.
Like other mortals, Ray is not infallible, he
never claimed he is hence my first reaction
would have been to write a personal letter to
him, refuting some of the assertions he
made in the article which are not correct.
But on a second thought, I reckoned that it
would benefit him and the reading public
more if I send this rejoinder to the editor to
publish because some of the allegations and
conclusions in his article are misleading,
others are at best half truth while the rest
are insults and outright falsehood. One of
the main tenets of journalism is that while
opinions are free, facts are scared.
So a little empirical investigation on the
website of Jehovah’s Witnesses, JW.ORG
(the world’s most translated website) would
have shown him that Jehovah’s Witnesses
hold 2 meetings in a week. The first is a
mid-week meeting while the second is a
weekend meeting; he would also have found
out that 90% of the over 8.6 million
witnesses in 240 lands, islands and
territories worldwide hold their meetings on
Sundays.
On the issue of national anthem and pledge,
Jehovah’s Witnesses, having made an
unreservedly and whole hearted pledge to
Jehovah, the sovereign of the universe,
believe that it amounts to hypocrisy to make
another pledge to a country or state,
interestingly, the pledge we made to
Jehovah includes living by bible standards,
which includes respect and obedience to
constituted authorities as part of reverence
to God. So it is not correct to say that we do
not respect the national flags of countries
where we live.
That is why in obedience to the scriptural
injunction at Romans 13:1, we subject
ourselves to superior authorities by obeying
laws of the land, conscientiously paying our
taxes, tributes and honor to such
governmental authorities. However, in rare
instances where the authorities make
demands that are contrary to God’s laws like
in some countries where certain laws unduly
restricts or ban our worship, we follow the
footsteps of the apostles as recorded in Acts
5: 29, to …”obey God as ruler rather than
men”.
The Witnesses’ respect and view of
governmental authorities transcends
perfunctory obedience like singing the
national anthem and pledge, swearing oat to
serve with honesty, heart and might, only for
many to get involved in anti-governmental
activities like civil disobedience, official
malfeasance like fraud or outright theft. As
an experienced administrator and believer in
good governance, I know that Ray will prefer
a heartfelt obedience to constituted
authorities to a mere ritual of flag salute or
mockery oat of loyalty and allegiance.
I also find as complimentary, Ray’s attempt
to describe the dress of the Witnesses who
came calling at his door in derogatory
terms. While like he said, they may not have
worn finely cut suit and red-carpet gowns,
he noted that they were modestly dressed,
and the gown “covered everywhere from
head to toe”, it will interest Ray to know that
such was the description of the garment
made for Adam and Eve, the first human pair
by the greatest designer in the universe,
Jehovah after they sinned, were sentenced
and driven out of the garden of Eden. In a
world that is alienated from God. Long
garments that cover the body properly are
not popular, instead men glorify immodest
dressing and grooming. That is why I found
his description complimentary rather than
derogatory.
I also found it surprising and a bit
disappointing that a writer of Ray’s repute
will describe as “stupidity and insanity” a
loving effort by the Witnesses who have
volunteered and sacrificed their comfort to
share a message of God’s kingdom with him
just because he was leaving for work.
His right to personal perception and opinion
does not authorize him to insult people for
practicing their religion, holding different
opinion or for having an unpopular
conviction just like Christ and the first
century Christians had. People have different
routine and circumstances hence the
Witnesses call at homes, markets, streets
and even work places in search of humble
ones who are favorably disposed for
everlasting life. While many may not be
disposed to listen, the Witnesses have had
fine experiences with others with whom they
share the good news of God’s kingdom with
interesting outcome. As a result of such
efforts, last year, a total of 12,232,924
friends and neighbors joined the 8,686,117
Witnesses worldwide to observe the Lords
evening meal in obedience to Jesus’
command at Luke 22:19.
Ray also quoted Genesis 9:4 which sates:
“You shall not eat flesh with its life, that its
blood” and Acts 15:29 which states:”That
you abstain from what has been sacrificed
to idols and from blood and from what is
strangled” it may be necessary to add
scriptures like Leviticus 17: 12 & 14 which
states in part: “None of you should eat
blood, and no foreigner who is residing in
your midst should eat blood… For the life of
every sort of flesh is its blood, because life
is in it. Consequently, I said to the Israelites:
You must not eat the blood of every sort of
flesh because the life of every sort of flesh is
its blood. Anyone eating it will be cut off.
Jehovah’s Witnesses understand and
appreciate God’s loving command to mean
not taking in blood, through any means
whatsoever. If Ray feels that a sacred
substance like blood which God, the grand
creator in his infinite wisdom has
commanded that we should eat can be
transfused without contravening God’s clear
and unambiguous law, he certainly has the
right to his opinion but that does change
God’s law. I will liken this to a child whose
father has prohibited from taking oral pills
but he instead dissolves it in water and
injects it intravenously.
It is important to state that the baby of Mr &
Mrs Emmanuel Onokpise in question had
jaundice induced anemia, and as at the time
of the forceful transfusion, the baby no
longer has jaundice and was recuperating
well. Beyond the religious convictions of
Witnesses, more and more doctors and
patients within and outside Nigeria opts for
non-blood medical management because it
is safer. Blood transfusion is especially
unsafe in a country like Nigeria where we do
not have proper screening facilities for
blood.
My research shows that most blood banks in
Nigeria are filled with blood from commercial
donors resulting in volume and less dead
cells. It may interest you to know that
modern medicine have gone beyond a hasty
transfusion therapy to a robust and effective
alternatives to blood transfusion. Witnesses
in their quest to obey Jehovah’s clear
directive not to eat blood have pushed the
boundaries of research in non blood medical
management.
There are numerous experiences about
successful bloodless surgeries and complex
medical procedures within and outside
Nigeria but let me share my personal
experience here. In November 2018, I was
diagnosed of high grade non hodgskin
lymphoma (a very serious type of blood
cancer) but I thank Jehovah, it was at stage
one and confined to the spleen.
A team of Hematologists at London
Hematology who carried out the diagnoses
recommended that I should have an open
splenectomy, a surgery that will excise the
diseased organ. They also said that
although they do not usually use blood in
procedures, but because spleen is a bloody
organ as such transfusion is a must. The
transfusion practitioner, clinical nurse
specialists and Drs’ all said that being
anemic as I was ( hemoglobin 10+) I stand
no chance without a transfusion.
After some research, the consultant
hematologist Mr Karcsmarski was able to
get the node a surgeon who agreed to carry
out the surgery without blood transfusion,
his name is Mr Satvinda Mudan. On the 10
December 2018, the surgery was successful
carried out at London Clinic, Davonshere
place, London, United Kingdom and I
gradually recuperated to the amazement of
the medical team and to the glory of
Jehovah, the true source of life.
At the anniversary of the surgery, I wrote to
thank both the medical team at the London
clinic and in response he said he wrote:
Dear Uche, Thank you for your most kind
email. I am so pleased to learn that you are
doing so well. While I might have shown
some dexterity as you say however, the real
display of courage was surely from you. I
can only say that you showed great fortitude
and strength of character in the face of a
difficult and threatening situation, not or
your own making.
Moreover, you impressed us all with your
resolve and strength with which you hold
your belief. May you continue to thrive and I
look forward to hearing from the doctors
about your progress.
----------
NB: Other aspects of Ray’s mis-
representation of facts will be addressed in
the coming days.

EDITORIAL Why Ray Ekpu goofed, disgraced journalism in his Fanatical Witnesses By starconnect Posted on February 1, 2020       COMMENTS Allegations and conclusions reached by Ray Ekpu in his article are misleading, others are at best half truth while the rest are insults and outright falsehood. One of the main tenets of journalism is that while opinions are free, facts are scared Emmanuel Thomas l Saturday, February 01, 2020 L AGOS, Nigeria – Among the legendary statements ever uttered by man which I cherish so much is that by Othman Danfodio, he said that “Conscience is an open wound, only truth can heal it” that is why I have a tremendous respect for men like Ray Ekpu, a man who has spent nearly 50 years in a relentless and vigorous pursuit of such truth. As a veteran journalist, prolific writer, administrator and a renowned columnist, Ray’s analysis and opinion on diverse issues can be authoritative. Mr. Ray Ekpu, a former editor of the now defunct, News Watch Magazine For those of us who have followed his writings over the years, it is no exaggeration to conclude that he is a master of the prose genre as he practically takes one on a journey of free flowing prose so captivating that you do not want to stop until you have finished reading his article. Ray is also a courageous writer, not afraid to bare his mind on diverse issues. Perhaps, it was with such zeal and zest that he took me on a journey in his weekly column of Daily Sun Tuesday, 28 January 2020. In an article entitled ” Fanatical Witnesses” the columnist of repute made series of allegations against Jehovah’s Witnesses starting with this statement. ´The religious group that calls itself Jehovah’s Witnesses is a very unique group in Christendom. They hold their Church services on Saturday not Sundays. They do not sing the national anthems of the countries in which they live. They do not respect the national flag. They hold themselves as outlaws and do not give to Caesar what is Caesar’s they think that their duty is only to give God what is God’s” One of the few things I still remember about my philosophy class, an elective course I chose as a student in the University over 20 years ago is that there are two ways of finding out truth. The first is “Logical coherence” while the second is empirical investigation. Today, I believe there are more ways of finding out truth but I will stick to the two ways I know which are timeless in appeal and efficacy. Like other mortals, Ray is not infallible, he never claimed he is hence my first reaction would have been to write a personal letter to him, refuting some of the assertions he made in the article which are not correct. But on a second thought, I reckoned that it would benefit him and the reading public more if I send this rejoinder to the editor to publish because some of the allegations and conclusions in his article are misleading, others are at best half truth while the rest are insults and outright falsehood. One of the main tenets of journalism is that while opinions are free, facts are scared. So a little empirical investigation on the website of Jehovah’s Witnesses, JW.ORG (the world’s most translated website) would have shown him that Jehovah’s Witnesses hold 2 meetings in a week. The first is a mid-week meeting while the second is a weekend meeting; he would also have found out that 90% of the over 8.6 million witnesses in 240 lands, islands and territories worldwide hold their meetings on Sundays. On the issue of national anthem and pledge, Jehovah’s Witnesses, having made an unreservedly and whole hearted pledge to Jehovah, the sovereign of the universe, believe that it amounts to hypocrisy to make another pledge to a country or state, interestingly, the pledge we made to Jehovah includes living by bible standards, which includes respect and obedience to constituted authorities as part of reverence to God. So it is not correct to say that we do not respect the national flags of countries where we live. That is why in obedience to the scriptural injunction at Romans 13:1, we subject ourselves to superior authorities by obeying laws of the land, conscientiously paying our taxes, tributes and honor to such governmental authorities. However, in rare instances where the authorities make demands that are contrary to God’s laws like in some countries where certain laws unduly restricts or ban our worship, we follow the footsteps of the apostles as recorded in Acts 5: 29, to …”obey God as ruler rather than men”. The Witnesses’ respect and view of governmental authorities transcends perfunctory obedience like singing the national anthem and pledge, swearing oat to serve with honesty, heart and might, only for many to get involved in anti-governmental activities like civil disobedience, official malfeasance like fraud or outright theft. As an experienced administrator and believer in good governance, I know that Ray will prefer a heartfelt obedience to constituted authorities to a mere ritual of flag salute or mockery oat of loyalty and allegiance. I also find as complimentary, Ray’s attempt to describe the dress of the Witnesses who came calling at his door in derogatory terms. While like he said, they may not have worn finely cut suit and red-carpet gowns, he noted that they were modestly dressed, and the gown “covered everywhere from head to toe”, it will interest Ray to know that such was the description of the garment made for Adam and Eve, the first human pair by the greatest designer in the universe, Jehovah after they sinned, were sentenced and driven out of the garden of Eden. In a world that is alienated from God. Long garments that cover the body properly are not popular, instead men glorify immodest dressing and grooming. That is why I found his description complimentary rather than derogatory. I also found it surprising and a bit disappointing that a writer of Ray’s repute will describe as “stupidity and insanity” a loving effort by the Witnesses who have volunteered and sacrificed their comfort to share a message of God’s kingdom with him just because he was leaving for work. His right to personal perception and opinion does not authorize him to insult people for practicing their religion, holding different opinion or for having an unpopular conviction just like Christ and the first century Christians had. People have different routine and circumstances hence the Witnesses call at homes, markets, streets and even work places in search of humble ones who are favorably disposed for everlasting life. While many may not be disposed to listen, the Witnesses have had fine experiences with others with whom they share the good news of God’s kingdom with interesting outcome. As a result of such efforts, last year, a total of 12,232,924 friends and neighbors joined the 8,686,117 Witnesses worldwide to observe the Lords evening meal in obedience to Jesus’ command at Luke 22:19. Ray also quoted Genesis 9:4 which sates: “You shall not eat flesh with its life, that its blood” and Acts 15:29 which states:”That you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled” it may be necessary to add scriptures like Leviticus 17: 12 & 14 which states in part: “None of you should eat blood, and no foreigner who is residing in your midst should eat blood… For the life of every sort of flesh is its blood, because life is in it. Consequently, I said to the Israelites: You must not eat the blood of every sort of flesh because the life of every sort of flesh is its blood. Anyone eating it will be cut off. Jehovah’s Witnesses understand and appreciate God’s loving command to mean not taking in blood, through any means whatsoever. If Ray feels that a sacred substance like blood which God, the grand creator in his infinite wisdom has commanded that we should eat can be transfused without contravening God’s clear and unambiguous law, he certainly has the right to his opinion but that does change God’s law. I will liken this to a child whose father has prohibited from taking oral pills but he instead dissolves it in water and injects it intravenously. It is important to state that the baby of Mr & Mrs Emmanuel Onokpise in question had jaundice induced anemia, and as at the time of the forceful transfusion, the baby no longer has jaundice and was recuperating well. Beyond the religious convictions of Witnesses, more and more doctors and patients within and outside Nigeria opts for non-blood medical management because it is safer. Blood transfusion is especially unsafe in a country like Nigeria where we do not have proper screening facilities for blood. My research shows that most blood banks in Nigeria are filled with blood from commercial donors resulting in volume and less dead cells. It may interest you to know that modern medicine have gone beyond a hasty transfusion therapy to a robust and effective alternatives to blood transfusion. Witnesses in their quest to obey Jehovah’s clear directive not to eat blood have pushed the boundaries of research in non blood medical management. There are numerous experiences about successful bloodless surgeries and complex medical procedures within and outside Nigeria but let me share my personal experience here. In November 2018, I was diagnosed of high grade non hodgskin lymphoma (a very serious type of blood cancer) but I thank Jehovah, it was at stage one and confined to the spleen. A team of Hematologists at London Hematology who carried out the diagnoses recommended that I should have an open splenectomy, a surgery that will excise the diseased organ. They also said that although they do not usually use blood in procedures, but because spleen is a bloody organ as such transfusion is a must. The transfusion practitioner, clinical nurse specialists and Drs’ all said that being anemic as I was ( hemoglobin 10+) I stand no chance without a transfusion. After some research, the consultant hematologist Mr Karcsmarski was able to get the node a surgeon who agreed to carry out the surgery without blood transfusion, his name is Mr Satvinda Mudan. On the 10 December 2018, the surgery was successful carried out at London Clinic, Davonshere place, London, United Kingdom and I gradually recuperated to the amazement of the medical team and to the glory of Jehovah, the true source of life. At the anniversary of the surgery, I wrote to thank both the medical team at the London clinic and in response he said he wrote: Dear Uche, Thank you for your most kind email. I am so pleased to learn that you are doing so well. While I might have shown some dexterity as you say however, the real display of courage was surely from you. I can only say that you showed great fortitude and strength of character in the face of a difficult and threatening situation, not or your own making. Moreover, you impressed us all with your resolve and strength with which you hold your belief. May you continue to thrive and I look forward to hearing from the doctors about your progress. NB: Other aspects of Ray’s mis- representation of facts will be addressed in the coming days.

https://m.guardian.ng/opinion/jehovahs-witnesses-balanced-and-informed/

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Jehovah’s Witnesses: Balanced and informed By Chijioke Nelson 04 February 2020 | 3:52 am I read with great amazement, the article titled “Fanatical witnesses”, published in The Guardian of January 28, 2020, written by Mr. Ray Ekpu. Of course, I read his articles, especially for his knowledge of subject matters. But more so, I believe I can learn more from his experience, despite putting 15 years already in the field of journalism myself. But this time, I beg to differ from your understanding and approach of the matter in question, particularly your use of words like fanatics, outlaws, extremists, sect, idiocy and stupidity. Granted that you were expressing your concerns, but it was on a matter of personal belief (faith), which you do not wholly understand or at best, agree with. You ended up veering off course. It is a hasty generalisation and profiling, to describe Jehovah’s Witnesses the way you did. You also chose to use derogatory descriptions for their dress and grooming and at another point, you associated witnesses with illiteracy. It appears to me, Sir, that indeed, you know little about Jehovah’s Witnesses. Around the world, there are over eight million Jehovah’s Witnesses, who are active in 240 lands. These are organised into almost 120,000 local congregations. Over 90% of these congregations hold their weekend Bible Studies on Sundays, not Saturdays, as you wrongly claimed. Why not visit a Kingdom Hall near you this Sunday to verify? In your article, you claimed, without any evidence, that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not respect national symbols and live as outlaws. This is simply, false.


The Nova Svoboda Newspaper in the Czech Republic said this of Witnesses:“[Jehovah’s Witnesses] have tremendous moral strength. We could use such unselfish people even in the highest political functions. . . . They recognize governmental authorities, but believe that only God’s Kingdom is capable of solving all human problems.”Closer home, Dr. Luke Onyekankeya of The Guardian Newspaper had written of his encounter with Jehovah’s Witnesses, although he is not one them. In any case, I see it that you are entitled to your opinion, but it is more of expression of personal hatred and misgivings for Jehovah’s Witnesses than the subject matter and that is below the part of your estimated self. These personal fangs are also not necessary as a discourse in the national newspapers, except the prompt of harboured animosity. Your narration of the story of the Onokpise family’s rejection of blood transfusion for their baby could have been more accurate had you taken the time to research the facts. This has already been reported by the Punch Newspaper the Nation and others. Given your experience and reputation, a simple interview with a Jehovah’s Witness, or even online research on their website from your desk, would have provided ample ink for your pen to be more accurate. I also know that expressions like these against Jehovah’s Witnesses are more of personal perceptions and hearsay, than knowledge and detailed findings about them. Regarding your views on blood transfusion, I wish to bring to your notice, Sir, that Medicine has gone beyond blood transfusion as a first option, to effective alternatives. This is a global trend and riding on the back of the witnesses’ informed refusal to accept blood transfusion. The successes are on the increase and on record.
Do you know that many who are not Jehovah’s Witnesses are no longer accepting transfusion? Are you aware that the medical world now advocates bloodless medicine, even for children? For example, check out the following websites, which do not belong to Jehovah’s Witnesses, among many others: John Hopkins’ Center for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery: and Stanford Children’s Health and The Punch Newspaper, January 15 2017 You may also want to log on to the Witnesses’ multilingual website www.jw.org for success stories, documentary on successful complicated medical issues (videos), as well as trends in international medicine, not religious ideas, to see what renowned surgeons and accomplished international medical experts have to say on the topic of transfusion alternatives/bloodless medicine. After a review of the contents, judge for you if these are mere cooked up stories or realities. While you have the right to hold your opinion and interpretation of Biblical injunctions regarding blood do you not also agree that others, Jehovah’s Witnesses inclusive, have the right to an alternative opinion? Would it not be hypocritical to opine that you disagree with their views, but insist that they accept yours? Does the fact that progressive medical science has since come to agree, according to Dr. Charles Huggins, the director of blood transfusion service at a Massachusetts Hospital, that blood has become “the most dangerous substance we use in medicine”, not lend any credence to the Witnesses acceptance of the Bible’s injunction to “abstain from blood”? You were, therefore, expressing a very narrow view in your article that it is unreasonable to deprive a patient of the life- saving option of blood transfusion. As any reasonable doctor will attest, when it comes to treatment, no physician can realistically guarantee that a certain approach would definitely save life. We have seen medical news reports of patients who died after blood transfusion and ones who survived without it in treating similar conditions, witnesses and non-witnesses alike. It will interest you to know that many have died out of complications of transfusion, while others have also died despite being transfused. What is more, majority of Jehovah’s Witnesses have also recuperated with the alternatives, all to God’s glory. Sir, while the health issue in question is rare among Jehovah’s Witnesses, compared with non-witnesses, decisions are neither mere ritual nor goaded, but by personal conviction of the Bible words and its principles, which is an aspect of faith that is not a possession of all men.
It was a surprise to read your article deriding the style of dress of Jehovah’s Witnesses, real or imaginary, that sought to discuss the Bible’s message with you. On their website, Jehovah’s Witnesses have provided a Newsroom for journalists like you’re very self to easily find secularly available information on their Bible Educational Work. Officials in many countries have commended the volunteer work of witnesses, which is carried out in 240 lands. This link, https://www.jw.org/en/search/? q=Jehovah%27s+Witnesses+and+the +community contains commendation of witnesses from public functionaries in Thailand, Sweden, Canada, Russia, United States and Ukraine. Of course, you are also entitled to disagree with this consensus. If you are a Christian, would you call God’s insistence that Jesus would die painfully for our sins rigidity, even though he can decide to forgive everyone? Wouldn’t Jesus have begged off, perhaps suggesting alternative action, rather than dying? Please, know that upholding godly principles involves submission to Him, not when you are comfortable. Jesus Christ admitted so. (Read Mark 8:35) Christianity is not by human dictate, but the way God wants it. There are several examples in the Holy Scriptures of men and women of faith who adopted positions that would not only have been labeled strange during their time, but would definitely have been described as lunatic in the year 2020, if your article is adopted as a standard of thought. But major religions of the world have come to accept these individuals as exemplary. Would you call Abraham’s obedience idiotic or irrational for readiness to sacrifice Isaac on a mere directive of someone he does not see physically, especially knowing the circumstances around Isaac’s birth? Would you say Daniel’s steadfastness and his loyalty was stupidity by continuing to pray, even visibly, when Nebuchadnezzar had decreed that such was forbidden? What of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.
Would you describe these as extremists, outlaws, mad, fanatics, unreasonable and stupid for refusing to bow before national images, when they were looking at the blazing fire that was their next destination? Would you call Stephen an idiot for confessing his faith in the midst of men with grinding stones pounding him? Would you call Paul and other apostle’s outlaws for telling off the authorities that they will obey God as ruler rather than them, knowing fully well the consequences? Jehovah’s Witnesses are not outlaws, but conscientious objectors. This is a global norm, except in states where individual rights are grossly violated. They seek peace and pay their taxes, which is the meaning of Jesus words to pay back Caesar’s things. I would have expected a father and respected senior colleague of your honour to dig deep into the matter beyond face-reading and personal grievances before being frivolous with words, name calling, baring of fangs and possible display of hatred for a people, their faith and belief. It is judgmental, an overkill and defamation of character, to slam unprintable words on a peaceful people who love their family and provide for them; a people who can go to any length to have the best available medical care for their families and themselves, within the limits of God’s law; and a people who labour to help others adopt positive attitude and become reconciled to God." Nelson wrote from Lagos. *(Copied)

[quote author=MOSICATED5 post=85920846][/quote]You are a FRAUD..... Shame on you DUBIOUS, wayo man. You know the reason why I said so.

Emusan:
False accuser and liar....

I'm still waiting for you to provide the link to where I claimed "Once saved always saved"

Emusan:
So it was me who wrote Matt 24:13 that "Once saved always saved"

[/quote]Shuoooo !!!!!
Matt 24:13
Jesus said:
"but those who stand firm to the End
shall be
saved."


Triune pagan deity devotee pretending
to be Christian.
Small Breeze blow fowl ya.n$h done
open.....

Emusan:
So it was me who wrote Matt 24:13 that "Once saved always saved"

Shuoooo !!!!!

Matt 24:13
Jesus said:
"but those who stand firm to the End shall be
saved."

Triune pagan deity devotee pretending to be Christian.
Small Breeze blow fowl ya.n$h done open.....

Emusan:
You talk about common sense whereas you're the very person who lacks it.

lastly, Mary birth the HUMAN NATURE while the Divine Nature has always existed....

Can Mary birth what created Mary herself

KJV, Your God was manifested in human nature..
We know say your sense no dey where Baba God put am.... ...

Emusan:
False accuser....I'm still waiting for you to provide the link where I claimed "Once saved always saved"

Matt 24:13,the words of Jesus is still a "rant" to you... it is on record.

Peacefullove:
You guys have defect in comprehension or what ?

The point here is : What did Mary birth ?

If Jesus has a Divine nature on Earth, who birth that Divine nature to the earth ? Common sense isn't common for you ?

Gbam !
These brain scrubbed men voluntarily exchanged their thinking cap for a man made SCAM...

PastorAIO:
There is nothing more entertaining than to see mad men discussing puerile nonsense.

Yet you joined the fray & commented on the posts of "mad men".
You no wan eat, but your teeth dey share am... OK nau.

Emusan:
I can see how you stylishly boycotted my question....

Again, when did the DIVINE PERSON EXISTENCE start

This will put more light to your claim "Mary isn't giving birth to an ORDINARY HUMAN but God Himself"

Stop insulting your intelligence..
According to your king James Bible, did Mary give birth to God manifested in the flesh?

1 Corinthians 7:4-5.
" The wife does not have authority over her
own body, but the husband. Likewise the
husband does not have authority over his
own body, but the wife. 5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain
from sexual intimacy for a limited time so
you can give yourselves more completely to
prayer. Afterward, you should come together
again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt
you because of your lack of self-control."

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MORE SHARING:
SEX IS THE BEST THING IN LIFE
(By Rambo 006)
WITHOUT REGULAR SEX, WOMEN RISK
MENTAL DISORDER:
~~Psychiatrist
A psychiatrist, Dr Maymunah Kadiri on
Saturday advised married women to have
regular sex with their spouses in order to
prevent depression and gain happiness.
Depression is a common mental disorder
that causes people to experience depressed
mood, loss of interest or pleasure, feelings
of guilt or low self-worth, disturbed sleep or
appetite, low energy, and poor
concentration.
Kadiri, the Medical Director of Pinnacle
Medical Services gave the advice in an
interview with the News Agency of Nigeria
(NAN) in Lagos.
Pinnacle is a health and wellness centre for
psychological, behavioral, and mental health
related issues.
According to her, sex is not just to nourish a
woman’s body, but it is also beneficial to
her mental health.
“As women, there is need for us to make our
spouses our best friends if we want to be
mentally healthy.
“Studies have shown that women who have
more active sex and in long term
relationships were less likely to be
depressed than women who went without
sex.
“So, more sex is important and essential. It
is a remedy to curing women from having
persistent headache.
“Low sexual drive, which leads to
depression, should be looked into. A woman
can be depressed when that sexual drive
that she used to have is no more there.
“Frequent active sex can play good roles
toward women’s sense of well being and
quality of life,’’ Kadiri said.
She explained that sex was not just for
procreation and to have children, adding
that it could create bonding, good
companionship and sound sleep.
Kadiri, popularly called ‘celebrity shrink’,
urged women dealing with depression to
frequently indulge in sex, while boosting
their self-esteem.
She also advised women who are over-
weight to also involve in active sex, saying
doing so will boost endorphins which are
happy hormones.
“The happy hormones will make them lose
some calories as well as sleep better.
”Orgasms trigger the release of endorphins
which are happy hormones secreted by the
brain that act as effective painkillers,’’ she
said.
She added that sex was not only beneficial
to the men, but especially to women
because it was capable of freeing them from
stress.
Sex accordingly. (For married ones only). A
lot of people don't associate sex with God -
they associate it with evil, as if sex is not
holy.!!
Sex is holy within marriage, and there is no
prescribed style. There's nowhere it is said
that a particular position is the only sexual
style.
Not discussing sex in a relationship leads to
divorce!! I have counseled women who've
complained: my husband treats me as if I
were his sister. There was one who told me:
I am tired of getting sex fortnightly, like a
salary. I told her she was lucky to be getting
sex fortnightly, since some wives only get it
on big days, like alcohol induced nights.
Many husbands leave their wives to seek
sexual pleasures in Hillbrow. Have you ever
asked yourself what those women have that
you don't. Wives have become very frigid
and even sleep with their panties. If you're a
married woman, you should sleep naked and
let your bum touch your husband.
Today you find men going out of their way
to get a glimpse of a vagina. They page
through magazines and even go to lingerie
departments in stores hoping to see what's
hidden under panties because their wives
hide it from them. Marriage is about being
free with your body in front of your partner.
A woman should parade naked and do some
modeling to tempt her husband. There are
many married women who don't know what
their husband's joysticks looks like. She only
feels it when he enters her. They've never
touched it, let alone seen it, because the
husband switches off the lights before
undressing. A penis is a wife's toy - she is
supposed to play with it.
I blame couples for not making time for sex
and complaining about being tired after a
day's work. You find many couples who've
been sexually starved for years. God created
sex for procreation and also for pleasure.
You can't marry and not have a good time
in bed.
WHO SAID YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SEX AT
NIGHT?
Why can't you drive home during lunch and
have a quickie with your wife? We're all
equal in sex - it's not just about a woman
satisfying a man. You have to satisfy each
other. Have you ever seen a woman who
has been satisfied? Have you noticed how
she glows and becomes energetic?
May God Bless you.
This is the Whole Truth, Nothing But The
Truth. Once you read this you have to keep
it going. Age has nothing to do with sex.
The older u are the more u should enjoy it.
Make sure your spouse reads this. Also
Send to all your married friends, Grandmas &
grandpas send it to your married children.
You may just be saving a marriage from
divorce.
Let LOVE & SEX fill our marriage.
Peace be unto your marriage."
*(Copied).
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Source: Due Process Advocates Facebook page...

tidytim:
.

You mean Jesus Christ founded a 'cult'?

triplechoice:
I don't know what are thinking now.My post didnot attack you in any way. Was only supporting what you already said about Oladegbu.

I'm not a mind reader. I misunderstood your post. I apologize. God bless.

Emusan:
What is this one saying

You're a CROOKED man., Emusan.
* @Evidence 1
Emusan :
by Emusan ( m ): 3:14pm
Janosky :
Why is Janosky LYING? Why are you
posting this FICTION?
8. Don't post false information on Nairaland.
***************
* @ Evidence 2.
by Emusan ( m ): 4:12pm
Janosky :
Janosky are Catholics Christian?
That was my question to you?

****************
Don't superimpose ANYTHING on my post, even if you disagree with me.
I won't respond to your question until you desist from your DUBIOUS habit.
Shikena !

Emusan:
by Emusan ( m ): 3:14pm
Janosky :
Why is Janosky LYING? Why are you
posting this FICTION?

8. Don't post false information on Nairaland
****************
Crooked man.
It's VERY DISHONEST of Emusan to superimpose your FRAUD on my post or any post of other monikers. The practice is PROHIBITED on this forum.

Emusan:
Are Catholics Christian according to Jws

Emusan are Catholics Christian?

triplechoice:

A case of not removing the log in ones own eyes first

Cults experts says those who belong to a cult group are not even aware that they belong to a cult.They would never accept it when you inform that they are in cult.The reason is that they have had their sense of judgement impaired by their continuous involvement in the group.They can see others as belonging to a cult but never themselves.

Pls feel free to apply your post to yourself first before you can apply it to others...

Maximus69:
It's foolishness that's worrying him!

He just pick up his device and start typing nonsense, forgetting that there is no way he can judge other religionists without condemning his own Kumuyi Church!

Christianity is about terms, conditions, principles, agreement and condemnation.

Jesus' teachings is the bases of all the terms, conditions and principles. If you choose to agree after listening to what his true followers present to you, you automatically become a member of the Christian family. You'll be invited and welcomed always in their gatherings where there is interchange of encouragement and support for all adherents of the terms. If you err in any of the terms, you'll be assisted to regain strength after a brief reproof. But if you decide to turn your back on the terms upon which you formerly agreed, you'll be shunned, and Christians will stop talking to you, they'll not even greet you.

That's what the book says!

But foolish OLAADEGBU wants to point accusing fingers at some groups claiming Christians while what they're practicing is outlined in the book itself. That's what makes him the most foolish of all religionists!

Kumuyi Church (Deeper Life) members already finds it hard to mingle with other people, even when such persons never agreed with the terms of their Church. Please how do you think they'll treat someone who abandons their Church only to start worshiping with another Church, most especially where women are allowed to put on wave on, jewelries, trousers and makeups?

Òbo ñg'Óbo gòpe!

In Olaadegbu NL profile, other Triune pagan deity (Trinitarians) devotees are idol worshippers (Father Christmas devotees), not professed Christians.
https://www.nairaland.com/olaadegbu

Wetin Messi no go see for goalpost?

OLAADEGBU:
Maybe it's because of what you misconstrued for 'Christianity' is actually a Cult group.

OLAADEGBU is a cultist himself because all the bullet points are very obvious in the personality cult of men he have identified himself with... Stop making a mockery of yourself.

Emusan:
It's hypocrisy for you to claim catholics aren't Christian when is the one who coined the word Jehovah.

Hypocrite!!!

Why is Emusan LYING?
Why are you posting this FICTION?

Emusan:
Olodo....

Mary gave birth to the human nature not the divine.

According to your theory....

Lion can't birth a goat...
Mary can't birth God nor God father human.

What Mary birth is human and what God father is God....

Do you understand? I know it will still hard for you to understand.

No dey insult yourself.
John10:34
" Jesus answered them,
“Has it not been written in your Law, ‘I SAID,
YOU ARE GODS’? 35 “If he called them gods,
to whom the word of God came (and the
Scripture cannot be broken), "
*** Jesus says man is of divine nature...,a god/God or godlike.
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John10:36
"do you say
of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent
into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’
because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?"
***
vs36, Jesus says himself is of divine nature.... =a god/God.
***************
John 17:3, Emusan Come here & explain..
Is Jesus himself the true God?
What the true God fathers' is a god/God. = Ye are gods/Gods. Psalms 82:1.John10:34-36.


John 17:3 Jesus Christ proves Emusan wrong.

Emusan:
@1)
If at this level you can still be repeating the @underlined then it shows all your years spent on NL are wasted and evidence that you have serious problem of comprehension.



And you lack it well well....

@2)

Why shading Catholic after you adopted the name Jehovah from them

Hypocrite!!!

@1)

Matthew 27:46
►
"Then about that time Jesus shouted, "Eli,
Eli,
lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God,
my God, why have you deserted me?"

Emusan , the apostle of Jesus is Jehovah,
Jesus shouted to who ?
Your mumu done do....


@2).
LIAR....
JWs did NOT do that... stop that your fictional theory.

Emusan:
Now listen to yourself....

Mary is a human.....
Can human give birth to God?

Jehovah is God.....
Can Jehovah father a human

Then you'll realize how faulty your premises are about who Jesus is and the reason you must accept the Dual nature of Jesus Christ.

Emusan wetin do your brain?
You say "Dual nature of Jesus Christ"= God/Man.
Mary is the mother of God/man.
Apostle of Jesus is Jehovah, that's your mumu in full throttle.
It's hypocrisy for you to shade Catholics who claimed Mary is Mother of God. The Trinity scam laid the foundation for their claim.

OLAADEGBU:
There is a logical fallacy in the argument that Mary is the mother of God
by Matt Slick

The Roman Catholic Church often calls Mary the "mother of God." They say...

"Since Mary is Jesus' mother, it must be concluded that she is also the Mother of God: If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. There is no way out of this logical syllogism, the valid form of which has been recognized by classical logicians since before the time of Christ."¹

There is a sense in which the syllogism is true, but also another in which it is not. Let's take a look.

https://carm.org/mary-mother-of-god-logical-fallacy

"There is a sense in which the syllogism is true, but also another in which it is not."

The Lion can not birth a Goat.
Likewise, Truth can not breed Lie..

Matt Slick's carm website is a byword for intellectual dishonesty..

Emusan:
Most people yet not grab the concept of scripture's picture about Jesus Christ that's why there are different view about Him.

The truth that was hidden in the scripture is:
Though Jesus was God prior to His earthly life yet He didn't come to earth as God even though divinity was hidden in His humanity.

So inability to distinguish where the scripture is referring to His heavenly life and earthly life is the source of all confusion.

◄ Matthew 27:46
►
"Then about that time Jesus shouted, "Eli, Eli,
lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God,
my God, why have you deserted me?"

The deity of Olaadegbu & Emusan called himself "My God,my God" & shouted to himself in sifia pains after he deserted himself and died like a criminal.

Una get 'sense' well well....

Why shade Catholics for their upgrade of the FRAUD you adopted from them?

For the bride price screenshot, him go use #20k "searching for mother Inlaw"...
After every every, you go still give mother in law another #150k "severance package"...
oturugbeke !!!!!!!!!

Some heartless in-laws to be, sabi use their daughter's wedding introduction dey do "profitable business"
I no fit blame the ex-bridegroom for doing Usain Bolt on him ex-bride....
Even Messi sef dey jump and pass over mercy-less hard tackles.... Lols.
Wetin Messi no go see for goalpost?