Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Marry A Jehovah Witness? And Can JW Marry Others by Janosky: 12:36am On Mar 07, 2020 |
nans24: 1)
Well said @ the bolded. If any of them dare question a particular doctrine...they are automatically viewed as apostate no matter how long they have been in their congregation. They strongly believe that God speaks to humans in the whole world through 8 old senile men.
So pathetic!!!
Also they like to attack other churches. Calling them names like "Christendom" or "Wordly people". They attack the Catholic church most especially, insulting them of having leaders that molest young people
2) . Many of Jehovah's witnesses dont even know that their own organization is battling numerous child abuse cases in court. Paedophiles being made as elders in their congregation. And when these sick elders are caught, they are never reported to the authorities. I was shocked when i saw the number of child abuse cases they have lost.
3. Atleast the pope appears on TV to apologize to victims of abuse...but as for the leaders of the Jehovah's witnesses (Governing Body) they have never and will never apologize. Rather they are willing to disfellowship the victim if he or she reports the incident to the police, drag the victim to court, and then pay millions to the victim when they lose the case.
4) Talk about pot calling kettle black.
I know one of them will quote me and do what they are good in doing..insulting. Their dull pattern of thought wont tell them to make a quick search on google to see if what ive said is true or not. 1) &4) are proofs of Nan's24 HYPOCRISY... Thanks for the insults. 2,3. Mr LIAR, we know you are LYING, adding Maggi ,sugar &spice to distort facts. Congratulations. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Marry A Jehovah Witness? And Can JW Marry Others by Janosky: 12:15am On Mar 07, 2020 |
oteneaaron: Funny.
Bro, you have to always remember something, you can't really blame the JWs, they're just good people trying to live right as Christians, and it's so unfortunate that sincere people end up as pawns in the hands of powerful men.
Direct confrontation will not work, you'll only give him more reason to stick to his beliefs, because any word spoken against the Governing body is pure "heresy"
If you want to have a meaningful argument with that nice fellow, don't attack, reason, show proof(from the JW publications and the Bible), and feel empathy for him too.
All their lives JWs have been taught that the world would end soon, and only them would survive.....
."Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
If you really want to help him and let him see things your way, don't fall for the attacking bait.
Cheers Bro!! Jesus preached over 2000 years ago.. "Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand" Matt 4:17. Mark 1:14-15. Matt 24:14 Do you believe that message of Jesus Christ? What crime has JWs committed when we believe we would survive the impending destruction of this wicked world ? 2 Thess1:7-9. How does preaching the same message that Jesus preached with his followers equate with "pawns in the hands of powerful men? Matt 5:20, Whom did Jesus preach would enter God's kingdom? Was there no governing body who led Jesus Christ disciples? Acts 15:1-33. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Marry A Jehovah Witness? And Can JW Marry Others by Janosky: 11:54pm On Mar 06, 2020 |
Missionaire: Good morning sir. I have a request to make of your organization and I can use your help. I'd appreciate if you can drop your number for me. Thanks. There is a JW meeting venue ,our kingdom hall near where you reside. Pls ask your neighbors, someone will be able to give you it's direction.. Or visit our official website, jw.org , to get more info. Thank you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 12:46am On Mar 05, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 12:39am On Mar 05, 2020*. Modified: 1:01am On Mar 05, 2020 |
Deadlytruth: The word 'Christianity' was first used by the people of Antioch to mean "Of Christ's party" in trying to describe the Apostles. The People of Antioch were not referring to a new group of believers in Jesus but to the Apostles who were part and parcel of Jesus-headed group which Jesus the head did not view as the only God approved group. So the idea that Christianity was not fully established under Jesus is as usual one of your human doctrines to validate your heresy. How could Christianity not have been fully established under its very founder who had made known the new covenant which Christianity was all about? Does that even make any sense? Acts 2:42 does not expressly so declare. You only smuggled that into it to validate your false doctrine. This is what it says: They spent their time in learning from the apostles, taking part in the fellowship, and sharing in the fellowship meals and the prayers. The whole passage describes a people whose physical joining of the group was not because it was a condition for being approved but because the group practised communism which was the only way nearly any believer could survive under the atmosphere of persecution of the early church by the heathen authorities. Acts 4:32-Acts 5:11. So why do JWs not now practice communism as a group in order to appear exactly like those believers?
The verses you referenced make it rather clear that Apollos already was very grounded in the scriptures and was preaching it but just that he knew only about John's baptism. However the Aquilla and Priscilla who taught him the accurate Knowledge were not members of an entirely different group which Apollos was already part of. In essence it was nembers of his own group that taught him the accurate knowledge and not that he left his group for another group which supposedly had a more correct knowledge. Appolos belonged to Paul's group which was different from Peter's group yet they were both accepted by God. And come to think of it; do you still think your organization is a right group given all that has been exposed on its very many unscriptural doctrines which are always changing? So your argument fails woefully again. The Matthew 16:19 you referenced is as usual totally unrelated to the topic. The Romans 10:1-4 rather describes your organization as it is the one that is apparently very devoted in preaching from house to house (in total disregard for Jesus command against it) and boasting about it as a sign of being approved by making up your own standards hence lacking in true knowledge about the fact that people are put right with God through faith in Jesus and not through their own efforts or works of the hands or body (Ephesians 2:8-9... For it is by God's grace that you have been saved through faith. It is not the result of your own efforts, but God's gift, so that no one can boast about it.
Like I said and will always say; you don't really read the verses you reference. In the whole of Acts Chapter 9, there is no single place where Jesus commanded Paul to go and learn from the apostles first. The verse 6 you quoted says: "Go into the city and you will be told what to do". You took out the the verse in isolation as usual of your manipulative organization. If you had read the later verses you would realize that Jesus was by that directive telling Paul to go into Damascus and be told how to restore his lost sight and never to be taught anything by the apostles who were rather in Jerusalem and not in Damascus. Here are the verses: 5. *Who are you, Lord?* he asked. *I am Jesus, whom you persecute,* the voice said.
6. But get up and go into the city, where you will be told what you must do.
7. The men who were traveling with Saul had stopped, not saying a word; they heard the voice but could not see anyone.
8. Saul got up from the ground and opened his eyes, but could not see a thing. So they took him by the hand and led him into Damascus.
Also, the preceeding verses record that the Ananias Paul was asked to meet was a believer in Damascus and was therefore definitely not part of the Jerusalem group of apostles. Even Ananias himself described the Jerusalem group as a separate one from the believers in Damascus.
See below:
9. For three days he was not able to see, and during that time he did not eat or drink anything.
10. There was a believer in Damascus named Ananias. He had a vision, in which the Lord said to him, *Ananias!* *Here I am, Lord,* he answered.
11. The Lord said to him, *Get ready and go to Straight Street, and at the house of Judas ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul. He is praying,
13. Ananias answered, Lord, many people have told me about this man and about all the terrible things he has done to your people in Jerusalem.
Then here is where God declared that Him alone and not any Apostle would teach Paul what to do in thereafter as regards the gospel he was just about to start spreading:
15. The Lord said to him, *Go, because I have chosen him to serve me, to make my name known to Gentiles and kings and to the people of Israel.
16. And I myself will show him all that he must suffer for my sake.*
Verse 19 also tells you there were believers in Damascus who were not part of the group in Jerusalem. It also tell you that Paul thereafter went straight to the synagogue to start preaching thus had not visited the Apostles in Jerusalem yet let alone being taught by them:
19. and after he had eaten, his strength came back. Saul stayed for a few days with the believers in Damascus.
20. He went straight to the synagogues and began to preach that Jesus was the Son of God.
22. But Saul's preaching became even more powerful, and his proofs that Jesus was the Messiah were so convincing that the Jews who lived in Damascus could not answer him.
When Paul eventually travelled to Jerusalem, the Apostles were even afraid of him but after some intervention by Barnabas, they accepted him to preach with them right away without anyone of them teaching him any damn thing:
26. Saul went to Jerusalem and tried to join the disciples. But they would not believe that he was a disciple, and they were all afraid of him.
27. Then Barnabas came to his help and took him to the apostles. He explained to them how Saul had seen the Lord on the road and that the Lord had spoken to him. He also told them how boldly Saul had preached in the name of Jesus in Damascus.
28. And so Saul stayed with them and went all over Jerusalem, preaching boldly in the name of the Lord.
In Galatians 1:11-12 Paul would later say it with his own mouth that no one (the other apostles inclusive) ever taught him the gospel. See it below:
11. Let me tell you, my friends, that the gospel I preach is not of human origin.
12. I did not receive it from any human being, nor did anyone teach it to me. It was Jesus Christ himself who revealed it to me.
All the above clearly show that you soul is lost to ignorance because you have made yourself a mental slave to some 8 manipulation and mind control experts in New York. It is still not too late to retrieve your brain from them and start reading the Bible holistically with an independent mind rather than the "Watchtower says" mindset. Your moniker says it all... Deadlytruth= Fake, Counterfeit. You join dey enrich the your gods of men and pastorpreneurs and you come here dey query why JWs no do "communism"? It's no secret that JWs practice brotherly love ,non JWs envy us for that. Galatians 6:10., as the apostles did many,many centuries ago. Go practice communism with your gods of men first, charity begins at home....  Your first and last paragraph is uncalled for because your post is littered with gross errors and inaccuracies..... "Go into the city and you would be told what to do".... What will Saul be told to do? Who will tell Saul? For example, you were recruited by the Boss to work for his firm. He gave directives to the Lagos Office & sent you there to be with your new colleagues and understand how the firm performs its functions, who is training you for the tasks that you are expected to perform in the months & weeks ahead? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 12:05am On Mar 05, 2020 |
Timossa: This is not only an error in the body of Christ, it's a false doctrine and not scriptural. What is scriptural is a believer in Christ Jesus getting married to another believer in Christ Jesus... And not a member of the same denomination marrying. How do you expect JWs , the true believer of Jesus Christ the son of God in heaven & earth (according to Jesus Christ himself,Revelation 3:5,12,21 and John 20:17) marry a pagan triune deity devotee who FALSELY claims that Jesus Christ is Almighty God? JWs will not marry pagan triune deity devotees.. Can two walk together unless they agree? Na wa you ooooo !!!!! |
Sports › FA Cup: Tottenham 2 Vs Norwich CT 3 ( PK). by Janosky(op): 11:43pm On Mar 04, 2020 |
Norwich CT goalkeeper,Dutch man Tim Krul sends Jose Mourinho's Spurs out of the FA Cup with his penalty kick stopping heroics. Tim Krul understands the art or call it Psychology of getting into your opponent's heads and unsettling them. He used it to devastating effect against Spurs players tonight. I still don't understand why Louis Van Gaal refused to let him man the goalpost during the Netherlands 5:4 Penalty kick loss to Argentina during the 2014 World cup semi final.. Whereas his penalty shootout heroics brought The Dutch Team to the 2014 World cup semi finals..... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness Predicted Coronavirus 15 Years Ago by Janosky: 11:02am On Mar 02, 2020 |
integritylady: The deadly Coronavirus or COVID-19 was predicted by an article published by the Jehovah’s Witness, a religious group, 15 years ago, in its magazine, Awake! But the world ignored the warning.
According to the article “The Next Global Epidemic, WHEN?” published in the December 22, 2005, edition of Awake!, the world was alerted that a pandemic virus might emerge in China or a nearby country in the future.
It also warned that it might emanate from an animal and could surface from antigens or virulence factors derived from animal influenza viruses.
The prediction, seen by some analysts as opportunistic, came two years after the end of another pandemic virus, the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) outbreak that started in November 2002.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2020/02/17/awake-jehovah-witness-magazine-predicted-coronavirus-15-years-ago/amp/ The Awake! magazine of December 22,2005 neither prophecy nor predict anything. The publication only referenced the in-depth , analytical research findings of medical experts and researchers published in medical journals. This is subject matter of public health. In the Awake! Magazine the subject of global epidemic is closely linked to the fulfilment of the words of Jesus Christ@ Luke 21:11... The spread of Pestilences (all sorts of diseases) everywhere... More are coming, even more dangerous than corona virus... The words of the holy Bible must come true.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 10:34am On Mar 02, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: From God, Just like Moses and others got their power and authority from God.., SO How can you be equal in authority with someone WHO GAVE YOU the Power you had ? OLAADEGBU, stop deceiving yourself.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
". .. then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him "
GOD'S WORD® Translation " ... the Son will put himself under God's authority " 1 Corinthians 15:28 Kumuyi done deceive OLAADEGBU since 19gbidigbidi....  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Will God Erase Names From The Book Of Life? by Janosky: 10:11am On Mar 02, 2020 |
smat101: Don't let little things distract you from the important things... SALVATION For humanity is the beauty of this verses not arguing whether Jesus is God or not. In this verses John is the one speaking... Jesus Himself said " I and my Father are one" secondly, who has the authority to forgive sins? ONLY GOD yet Jesus Forgave sins... You're still repeating the same mistake of the OP. You no know say your "God" Jesus received authority to forgive sins? Reason on this: Who gave your "God" all authority in heaven and earth"? Matt 28:19 Jesus says: "All authority have been given me in heaven and earth" (Jesus disciples received authority to forgive sins> John20:23.. pls,look for another excuse).. Jesus received authority,his disciples received authority. From whom? Jesus Christ says in Revelation 3:5, "I will confess his name before my Father" and his angels (Compare Matt 10:32,33). Jesus himself REFUTES your misrepresentation of "I and the Father are one." Una "almighty God" say him get Papa for heaven.... Yet, Trinitarians no want to get sense...  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Creepy! Man Searches For A Kingdom Hall In Denmark, Gets This by Janosky: 9:42am On Mar 02, 2020 |
solite3: Jehovah witness was founded by freemasonry. Eleyi gidi gaan of LIE LIE... Please look for another LIE to post on NL. Solite3,the symbols of freemasonry is in your church.. don't LIE. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Watford Vs Liverpool (3 - 0) On 29th February 2020 by Janosky: 12:02am On Mar 01, 2020 |
Corona virus done nack the team spirit and mental strength of Liverpool... I wonder if them go recover well well before their Champions league clash with the Atletico Madrid "Warriors" led by Diego Simeonie... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Will God Erase Names From The Book Of Life? by Janosky: 11:41pm On Feb 29, 2020 |
Good point.
John 3:16-16. "16For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.…" John 3:16-17, Jesus here confirms that God Almighty did NOT send himself into the world. Wahala for Trinity.
"God" will confess "the names of righteous men before his own Father in heaven. Revelation 3:5 and 1st John 5:5....., Very very interesting !!!! The Word of John 1:1 says he is a son in heaven. The Trinitarians belief that God sent himself into the world will NEVER lead men to everlasting life but to destruction..
If this post make you dey vex ,please go quarrel with John 3:16-17& Revelation 3:5,12 spoken & revealed by Jesus Christ. |
Family › Re: My Wife Is Circumcised And It's Affecting Our Sex Life by Janosky: 2:39pm On Feb 23, 2020 |
franklingud: Stop looking for her clits Bro, it's gone forever. But you can find the one inside her vag with your finger only if you know how. It's called Grafenberg spot (alias center of gravity). |
Family › Re: My Wife Is Circumcised And It's Affecting Our Sex Life by Janosky: 2:33pm On Feb 23, 2020 |
Tunagee: Bro, you be wizard o! You just described my wife. She had a CS birth also, and gets dried easily. I don dey find the clitoris for more than 6 yrs now. Does it mean she was circumcized? Bros, you need to wear eye goggles wey you go take see the clitoris korokoro........ Lols..
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Link To UN Queried by Janosky: 1:07am On Feb 18, 2020 |
rottennaija: Please help me, which one is propaganda? That watchtower didn't join the United Nation? Or that they didn't lie about the reason for joining and the reason for ending its membership? Rottennaija Chronic LIAR....
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Christianity Etc › Re: Lagos Saves Baby From Jehovah’s Witnesses Over Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 12:57am On Feb 18, 2020 |
Janosky: @1)
Abstain from ingesting blood into your body or into your bloodstream. Transfuse drugs with needle and swallow with your mouth, produces same results. Tranfuse blood with needles and eat/swallow with your mouth... same end results. Abstain from blood Acts15:28-29.
***@2) There are products derived from blood which Jehovah's Witnesses may choose to accept. Jehovah’s Witnesses commonly call these 'minor blood fractions'. Just a few potential uses of blood fractions include injections to prevent infection, a buffering ingredient in a medication, or part of a surgical sealant. Many persons would see these uses as rather different from a blood transfusion. Some have misunderstood 'minor blood fraction' to mean a small quantity of whole blood transfusions.
To clarify this, let's use the analogy of a pie to try to express what a minor blood fraction is. In this analogy, a minor blood fraction would not be akin to a small piece of the pie. Rather a minor blood fraction is like a small ingredient that went into the making of the pie. Let's put it in another way, Globulin is a minor component of the egg white we eat (it's also blood fraction) does eating eggs equate with eating blood? Definitely not ! The post above,that's my original post the MOSICATED Liar tampered with. I reported him to the NL Mods..... MOSICATED5: you are nuts I guess I'm not surprised, this MOSICATED Nairaland Churchian is a chronic Liar. Lies na your unique talent. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Vs Manchester United (0 - 2) On 17th February 2020 by Janosky: 12:04am On Feb 18, 2020 |
mvem: I am a Liverpool fan and there is no reason why Maguire shouldn't have been sent off...Everyone saw it clearly, it was a straight red Dirty politics... Even the match pundits - rationalized it as non consequential because Maquire na their brother.... Batshuayi won't get away with similar offence ,It would have been straight red card . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Vs Manchester United (0 - 2) On 17th February 2020 by Janosky: 11:31pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
In the good ol' days, Chelsea vs Man Utd matches always turned out to be interesting ,suspense and tension filled with lots of dramatic moments, but tonight's game featured two glorified school boy clubs bearing the name of the fantastic Man Utd & Chelsea sides we used to watch in those days when "men with heart" played the beautiful game.... This Man Utd vs Chelsea match dull well well... Tonight at least, MU fans will 'forgive' the many "sins" of Ole Gunnar Solkjaer for beating a rival & getting closer to top 4......
Michy Batshuayi na confirm kpalasa... very mediocre striker.... I can't understand why Coach Lamps kept Giroud on the bench until halfway into the 2nd half.. Chelsea needs 2 ruthless Strikers in the mold of Drogba & Anelka .... If not, them go miss Top 4 as Moses missed Promise Land.... |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Reno Omokri Said Is Yeshua Not Jesus by Janosky: 7:17pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Queenttoast01: Following Reno Omokri's tweet he said Yeshua s the real Greek name of the son of God not Jesus. He also said, There is no Trinity, that no one is above or equal to God not even Yeshua. Meanwhile, he used different Scripture verses to back this up with several Places he has visited like Corinth etc. If this is true, Christianity has been serving in illusion since AD when occultist translated the Bible from Greek to King James version to position what has not been in the old raw scripture as said by Reno.
#Discuss. FACT. Nairaland Churchians will attack the man & shy away from the facts he shared.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reno Omokri Said Is Yeshua Not Jesus by Janosky: 7:12pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
MightySparrow: Methink this Reno has run out ideas. He was once a strong critic of president Buhari. now a stronger critic of the church. Yet you have no ideas to debunk or disprove him |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Janosky: 7:04pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
shadeyinka: You are completely lost as you are confused. That's why a simple question requires lots of verbose words to clarify. You are wasting my time...
Why is it that only human spirit (and animals) is non living?
To help you out, say
Human and animal spirit are exceptions to having living spirits because....... The holy Bible says so ... Psalms 104:29-30. Genesis 7:22. 2:7 & Job 27:2-3... (These verses have been referenced here several times but it's not visible to you in your own copy of the Bible...) Human beings do not possess supernatural beings living inside them.... Common sense. blueAgent: Since they are spirit they would have life automatically?
Pagan teachings have confused and saturated your reasoning. Lols To him "spirit" in the Bible it's supernatural being.. Shadeyinka be spirit wey dey use key open him main door to enter him apartment... looools |
Christianity Etc › Re: Moaning During Sexual Conjugation Is Bad For Christian Couple by Janosky: 7:31pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
LilMissFavvy: My first sentence is not the same thing the OP is saying. The OP says Christian women should not moan or call God's name during sex. He condemns both. I on the other hand agreed with OP that God's name should not be called during the act, but that a woman can moan or talk, she can say other things, it must not be holy words. The word ''hallelujah'' is a holy word, I don't think such should be brought in as well. She should never call Jesus, there is time for everything. If ist Corin. 7:5 says couples should''abstain'' during fasting and prayers, so why should God's name be called during the act? Shuooooo !!!!!!!! The koko of your post means that sex is dirty... in other words, God created a 'dirty' act for pleasure & procreation of man...... The OP's post is the Album version and yours is the Extended version..... You & the OP of this thread are 2 sides of the same coin.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Janosky: 7:06pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
shadeyinka: I think my question is very clear: since we read the same Bible but arrive at different interpretations, your job is to answer the question posed.
The question again!
How come every other spirit is living and only man's spirit is non living life force?
Knowing that, From your (JW) response: 1. God's spirit is alive (supernatural being) 2. Angel's spirits are alive (supernatural beings) 3. Demon's spirits are alive (supernatural beings) BUT 4. Human spirit is NOT alive: it is simply a life force!
Do you think the last conclusion (4) represent your view?
How come every other spirit is living and only man's spirit is non living life force?
I am waiting! Your first question & last question rests squarely on FAULT Y premise, a LIE in fact. ********************* Let's examine the FACTS... @1** Greek Dictionary (Lexicon-Concordance) Key Word Studies (Translations-Definitions- Meanings) » G4151 « #4151 πνεῦμα pneuma {pnyoo'-mah} from G4154 ; TDNT - 6:332,876; n n —Greek Word Study (Transliteration- Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) a movement of air (a gentle blast 1a) of the wind, hence the wind itself 1b) breath of nostrils or mouth 2) the spirit, i.e. the vital principal by which the body is animated 2a) the rational spirit, the power by which the human being feels, thinks, decides 2b) the soul 3) a spirit, i.e. a simple essence, devoid of all or at least all grosser matter, and possessed of the power of knowing, desiring, deciding, and acting 3a) a life giving spirit 3b) a human soul (life) that has left the body 3c) a spirit higher than man but lower than God, i.e. an angel 3c1) used of demons, or evil spirits, who were conceived as inhabiting the bodies of men 3c2) the spiritual nature of Christ, higher than the highest angels and equal to God, the divine nature of Christ 4) of God 4a) God's power and agency distinguishable in thought from his essence in itself considered 4a1) manifest in the course of affairs 4a2) by its influence upon the souls productive in the theocratic body (the church) of all the higher spiritual gifts and blessings 4a3) the Holy Spirit 5) the disposition or influence which fills and governs the soul of any one 5a) the efficient source of any power, affection, emotion, desire, etc. ************** @2. —Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) From G4154 ; a current of air, that is, breath ( blast ) or a breeze ; by analogy or figuratively a spirit , that is, (human) the rational soul , (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition , etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy spirit :—ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590 . ******************* According to Shadeyinka, (not the holy Bible), anywhere you see the word, "Spirit" ,in your Bible, ALL are supernatural, spiritual beings.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Janosky: 3:41pm On Feb 08, 2020*. Modified: 6:18pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Janosky: 3:33pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
shadeyinka: You are overflogging the difference between life giving forece and life force and I have removed the offending word and inserted physical to clarify "body"
I asked you again: If angels are spirits (life giving force) , what is their spirit giving life since they don't have a physical body? (Note: At least it could make sense to say that the life giving force of a man gives life to his physical body)
Are you saying that angels spirits are their spiritual bodies? Please clarify!
Here you confuse me again.
If the life giving force in angels perform same function as the life giving in men, what does the giving force in angels give life (for humans, the life giving force is acclaimed by JWs to give life to the physical body)
Rom16:20. 1Cor 6:3 has nothing to do with destruction of angels
Jude 1:6: "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
I don't know any other meaning of everlasting! In fact, those angels are currently in chains (past tense): Yahweh Elohim is a spirit, HE has a spiritual body not visible to human eyes. Likewise, angels have spiritual body.. Do you believe angels have spiritual body like Yahweh? Yahweh the Source of Life gave life force to the spiritual bodies of his angelic creatures in spiritual realm where they exist. Angels receive life from Yahweh, the Source of their life. Angels are not immortal, ONLY Yahweh is. The eternal fire destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah (Jude 1:6-7) is the same fate prepared for Satan and his angels (Matt25:41). Why do you leave out Jude 1:7? both verses are together, not isolated. The Genesis 3:15 Prophetic decree can not be altered : "Satan will be CRUSHED in the head and Romans16:20 confirms it. Shadeyinka wants to taylor the scriptures to say what he wants it to say..... Shuoooo !! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Janosky: 1:26pm On Feb 08, 2020*. Modified: 2:15pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Human spirit is different from human mind!
BTW, I was referring to a JW of which you are not. The items 1-4 was meant for a JW who see the human spirit as an inanimate thing (a life force)
From your (JW) response: 1. God's spirit is alive (supernatural being) 2. Angel's spirits are alive (supernatural beings) 3. Demon's spirits are alive (supernatural beings) BUT 4. Human spirit is NOT alive: it is simply a life force!
Do you think the last conclusion (4) represent your view?
How come every other spirit is living and only man's spirit is non living life force?
The above is my question to the JW Genesis 2:7 gives insight to your question.. Please read with clarity.... Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God took some soil from the ground and formed a man out of it; he breathed life-giving breath into his nostrils and the man began to live." ********** And Jehovah Elohim formed Man, dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and Man became a living soul." ** Job 27:3 All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;" **** Genesis 7:22 "All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died." Compare Psalms 104:29-30. Job33:4. Genesis 7:22 Did Yahweh implant a spiritual being into the nostrils of man HE made from dust ? Not at all... Is the life -giving breathe of the Almighty Yahweh a spiritual being? No ! ********** The Bible truth is not disputable... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lagos Saves Baby From Jehovah’s Witnesses Over Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 11:35pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
MOSICATED5: I'm so sure you are talking to yourself MOSICATED5 ADDED 2 lengthy paragraphs of his own statements into Janosky's post (my original post below)to pass it off as Janosky's statement. Cunning,wayo MOSICATED5 FRAUD. Shameless Plagiarist,no dey ADD another person post into my post as if Na me write am..... Na wayo you dey do !! Janosky: @1)
Abstain from ingesting blood into your body or into your bloodstream. Transfuse drugs with needle and swallow with your mouth, produces same results. Tranfuse blood with needles and eat/swallow with your mouth... same end results. Abstain from blood Acts15:28-29.
***@2) There are products derived from blood which Jehovah's Witnesses may choose to accept. Jehovah’s Witnesses commonly call these 'minor blood fractions'. Just a few potential uses of blood fractions include injections to prevent infection, a buffering ingredient in a medication, or part of a surgical sealant. Many persons would see these uses as rather different from a blood transfusion. Some have misunderstood 'minor blood fraction' to mean a small quantity of whole blood transfusions.
To clarify this, let's use the analogy of a pie to try to express what a minor blood fraction is. In this analogy, a minor blood fraction would not be akin to a small piece of the pie. Rather a minor blood fraction is like a small ingredient that went into the making of the pie. Let's put it in another way, Globulin is a minor component of the egg white we eat (it's also blood fraction) does eating eggs equate with eating blood? Definitely not ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Janosky: 11:02pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Thank you Mr Janosky for coming to bail out your friend Peacefullove. Unfortunately, you did not answer the question. You have only objected to the use of life giving force and you claim it should be life force . I do not intend the assert the similarity or differences so, the question again
I asked you again: If angels are spirits (life giving force) , what is their spirit giving life since they don't have a body? (Note: At least it could make sense to say that the life giving force of a man gives life to his physical body)
So, the offensive word has been removed. If the life force of a man give life to the physical body, what does the life force of a spirit give life?
Thanks for your understanding Please don't misquote me or assign your own views as if I said so..... **Note: Life giving force or life force, it's the same thing> "breathe of life" /"spirit of Eccl12:7, Psalms 104:29-30,Job27:2-3.. (Just as Mariah is the same as Marie). I NEVER objected to that.. Without breathe of life,can any creature exist? ************ Have I ever said Angel don't have body? I NEVER said that. Yahweh is a spirit= Spirit being/body in the spiritual realm. Likewise ,angels are spirits= spirit bodies/beings in the spiritual realm. **************** The life giving force in angels perform same function as the life giving in men... Angels are NOT immortal., Rebellious angels are subject to destruction Jude 1:6-7. Rom16:20. 1Cor 6:3. Only the invisible true God, the Source of Life,Yahweh is Immortal. 1Tim1:17.Psalm90:2. |
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Janosky: 9:25pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
PastorAIO: As I was saying to the saner folks who are reading and laughing, se you see my predicament. Abeg no post anything here o, just read, laugh and move on. Or one craze man will try to drag you enter their idiocy. For your mind......  There are no sane folks here.. Pastor,please upgrade your memory...  PastorAIO: There is nothing more entertaining than to see mad men discussing puerile nonsense. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Moaning During Sexual Conjugation Is Bad For Christian Couple by Janosky: 8:58pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
LilMissFavvy: It is a sin for a woman to scream the name of God during such acts i agree with you on that, but moaning is very normal. If a man abuse a woman verbally or physically she may cry, scream, fight back, etc. Women are very emotional beings, and the best form of realesing such emotional feelings could come through acts of crying, laughing, moaning etc., These attributes are very normal for heaven's sake, and is not a sin. There is no Bible portion condemning a woman displaying her emotions to her properly wedded husband. Are we saying a woman with life can lay motionless without making a sound when she is with her beloved husband, this is why marriages of Christian's will continue to crumble because every little spice that should give life to such marriages is being condemned and wiped out. God made sex for man's pleasure and procreation, yet "it is a sin for a woman" to scream a series of hallelujah (meaning Praise Jah/ Yahweh = name of God) on her way to the 'Promised Land'. Your first sentence is the same thing that the OP is saying in his original post... How come you support what you condemn? |