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Edybleketara:
their biggest problem is hypocrisy. outwardly jws behave like saints, but in secret, they do the opposite of what they preach.
they also have a knack for berating other religions. they believe they are the only ones who will be saved, and refer to other religions as Babylon the great- the world empire of false religion.

https://www.nairaland.com/3203911/how-make-christains-whatever-u

You even dey practice what you accuse JWs of doing.
You opened a thread to berate the belief system of those who profess Christianity, your hypocrisy stinks.

I wonder Wetin Musa no go see for gate ..

To be candid, if your false claims were true, this OP (Temmy002) won't ever post the topic of this thread .
The OP topic is for the glory of Jehovah's name (Matt 5:16), even though JWs are imperfect humans who practice what pleases God.

Did Jesus Christ ever preach that the Pharisees were better than his followers?
Matt5:20.

'Edybleketara' ,your viral load of hypocrisy, bigotry and prejudice is incurably immense.
Remove the straw in your own eyes so you can see more clearly before you are able to see the speck in JWs....

johnw47:
i already explainse it to you, and of course you don't understand but here it is again:

Explain what? Are you kidding me? Some thing is wrong with your reasoning ability... You've lost it.

brocab:
The truth is, the world is full of cults lurking around-and sadly we have the JW's..

brocab:
Janosky Is this the way you should be acting towards Johnw47?
Maximus claims your religion has a strong bond of love just like {John 13:34-35} Explains.. ""Or does Maximus mean your strong bond of love only happens within your organisation? Not outside it...
[color=#000099]So cursing Johnw and abusing him at the same time, would mean you are actually defrauding everything

You claim you believe in Jesus Christ.
If your Trinity doctrine is not a FRAUD, please answer 3 questions I have for you.
The first one, you have been dodging repeatedly on this thread...

@*I)
John17:3, According to Jesus Christ, who is the ONLY TRUE GOD?

** ii)
Revelation 3:5,12, Did Jesus (now
spirit) say Yahweh (spirit) is his Father
in the spiritual realm?

**iii)
Is John14:28 ("the Father is greater than I" & John17:3 on the earthly realm equivalent to Revelation 3:5,12, in the spiritual realm ?


brocab, Are you so blissfully unaware that to label JWs a 'Cult' is a slur that amounts to a derogatory insult?

brocab, please remove the straw from your eyes so you can see more clearly in order to discover the speck in another man's eyes.
Thank you Sir.

Janosky:
"Everlasting Father of Creation"
Where is that your FRAUD in Isaiah 9:6?
: Johnw FRAUD shame on you.

Stop your rants.
Isaiah 9:6 , NEVER spoke ANYTHING about creation .
Your invented Jesus is "Everlasting Father of Creation"
Show us the Bible where you coined your FRAUD.

johnw47:
@1)

Father and the Word is God, john 1:1


@2)

you still believe that the Father is Jesus throne, Father is a throne
Jesus sits on His Father, laugh, oh so duh one
truly Jesus sits at the right hand on His Father on the throne of God
which makes perfect sense with Father and the Word being God

Mar_16:19  So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God(Father).

^^^ Jesus didn't literally sit on Father's right hand, but to the right of Him, i need to point that out to you,

Now that the previous post exposed your Hebrews 1:8 FRAUD, you quickly jump to "Father and the Word is God" LIE.
Your LIE NOT in any authentic verse(s) of the Bible.
Shame on you, Johnw FRAUD.

*@1)

Exodus 4:15,16, Yahweh was with Moses, Moses was God. Moses is Yahweh.
Your John 1:1 satanic FRAUD twisting your mumu brain.

Johnw FRAUD man Pharisee.


@*2).
Psalm 45:6 (NIRV) Your throne is the
very throne of God. Your kingdom will
last for ever and ever. You will rule by
treating everyone fairly.
** The Son Jesus Christ in heaven is sitting on the throne of God his Father's throne. Compare Rev 3:21. Luke1:31-33.1Chro29:23.

Johnw FRAUD man, ogidigan of LIE,LIE.
Please, STOP twisting the holy Bible for your mumu FRAUD. -"God sits at the right hand on His Father on the throne of God"

^^^ God didn't literally sit on Father's
right hand, but to the right of Himself God, i
need to point that FRAUD out to you,"

brocab:
[color=#000099]Do you believe? If your answer is yes, then why is it so hard for you to understand the scriptures, why haven't you received the Holy Spirit, who teaches you all things, why is it so hard for you to believe the Words of God--

brocab DISAGREES with Jesus Christ in heaven. Revelation 3:5,12. John20:17.
brocab worships a triune deity.

The Father and God of Jesus Christ in the spiritual realm is NOT brocab's triune deity.

John14:28. John20:17. Matt 3:16,17.
Matt16:13-17. Rev3:5,12.,the words of Jesus Christ my Messiah and Saviour REBUKE your mumu fallacy.

*

johnw47:
*@1)

Joh 14:28
Jesus' Father(Spirit) is greater than Jesus(flesh), well who would have thought, laugh


***@2)

Father is the God of Jesus, oh duh pharisee Janosky/oneJ, and Father called Jesus God also:

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

  **@3)
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

**@1)
Revelation 3:5,12, Did Jesus (now spirit) say Yahweh (spirit) is his Father in heaven?
Where is the equality in heaven ?
VERDICT :
Is John14:28 = Revelation 3:5,12, in the spiritual realm ?
Answer: Yes,200%.
In Spiritual realm Yahweh is GREATER than Jesus. No equality.
**@2)
Hebrews 1:8 is a true copy of Psalm 45:6.
Psalm 45:6 (RSV) Your divine throne
endures for ever and ever. Your royal
scepter is a scepter of equity;


Psalm 45:6 (NIRV) Your throne is the
very throne of God. Your kingdom will last
for ever and ever. You will rule by treating
everyone fairly.

Psalm 45:6 (MSG) "Your throne is God's
throne, ever and always; The scepter of
your royal rule measures right living.


Psalm 45:6 (CEB) Your divine throne is
eternal and everlasting. Your royal
scepter is a scepter of justice.


Psalm 45:6 (GNT) The kingdom that God
has given you will last forever and ever.
You rule over your people with justice;"
**** Revelation 3:21, Jesus Christ says it's his Father's throne,your Heb1:8 na wash !!
Compare 1Chron29:23. Luke1:31-33.
Johnw FRAUD Hebrew 1:8 is a FRAUD.


***@3)
If we were to assume on your FRAUD Hebrew 1:8 , why will Yahweh anoint 'God Jesus' above 'thy fellows' in the spirit realm?

**SERIOUS FOOD for thought**#
(*I)
If Yahweh and Jesus were coequal in the spiritual realm, why will Yahweh anoint Jesus 'above thy fellows' inferior to Yahweh ?
(ii)
It is pointless for one spirit being to anoint another coequal spirit being.
Only a Superior Being with superior powers can anoint another being.
**PROOF
** Yahweh is far far Superior to Jesus Christ in the spiritual realm.

Johnw FRAUD, shame on you and your Trinity scam.
Johnw FRAUD no get sense, no thanks to the Trinity scam.
Kikikikiki

johnw47:
Jesus after making one sacrifice for sins sat down at the right hand of His Father
is not saying Jesus didn't create all things, is not saying Jesus isn't Creator - Father of man etc.


Mighty God the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ certainly is the Everlasting Father of Creation:

Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

"Everlasting Father of Creation"
Where is that your FRAUD in Isaiah 9:6?
: Johnw FRAUD shame on you.

johnw47:
quote: "The Hebrew word for angels also mean son of God, that alone means Jesus Christ is an angel"/quote

laughing, in the Old testament, just and pious men, and the kings of israel are all called "sons of God"
does that alone mean they are angels too, ha ha

Jesus the man was anointed above his fellows the apostles

read the whole hebrews chapter it shows clearly that Jesus is not a angel

Johnw FRAUD, the entire Hebrew chapter 1, shows that Yahweh elevated Jesus Christ above angels,his peers/companions in heaven where Christ was elevated.
Verses 4-6,9 is CRYSTAL CLEAR.

Which of the apostles was mentioned in Hebrew chapter 1?
Johnw FRAUD is a PATHETIC LIAR.

Bible > Strong's > Greek > 32
◄ 32. aggelos
►
Strong's Concordance
aggelos: an angel, messenger
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aggelos
Phonetic Spelling: (ang'-el-os)
Definition: a messenger, angel
Usage: a messenger, generally a
(supernatural) messenger from God, an
angel, conveying news or behests from God
to men.
HELPS Word-studies
32 ággelos – properly, a messenger or
delegate – either human (Mt 11:10; Lk 7:24,
9:52; Gal 4:14; Js 2:25) or heavenly (a
celestial angel); someone sent (by God) to
proclaim His message.

[ 32 ( ággelos ) can refer to "a human
messenger" (cf. John the Baptist, Mt 11:10,
quoting Mal 3:1; see also Lk 7:24, 9:52).

*** 32 ( ággelos ) can refer to "a human
messenger "
Humans ,anyone bearing Yahweh's message is an envoy, messenger, aggelos.=angel.
John7:16.

***Johnw FRAUD it's not too late for you to repent from Falsehood.

Hairyrapunzel:
Last last all you have said it's only inside your head and watchtower magazine. In other words, it's just in your imagination that is it ain't real.

Is John17:20-23 not in Hairyrapunzel's copy of the Bible?
Anti JW viral syndrome is driving you nuts.
Your delusionary symptoms are being manifest.
Oya, Clap for yourself.

solite3:
**@1)
Jesus is not the Son of God by birth
Are you insinuating God gave birth?

**@2)
God can not be created, part of characteristics of God's nature is that he is eternal meaning he has always existed and he will always exist.
Jesus is God hence has that quality.

**@2)
Living beings (man and angels are Elohim) who possess God's nature granted to them by Yahweh ,because Yahweh is the Source of their life.
Yahweh alone is immortal, NOT Jesus.
1 Tim1:17. 6:16. John5:37. Psalm 90:1.


@1)
Psalms 90:2, God gave birth....
Rom8:3, Yahweh sent his son (in the spiritual realm) to earth in the likeness of men.
John5:26 Jesus Christ is lifeless with out his Father.
Rev 3:5,12-14, Jesus in heaven is still his Father's son.
Rev3:5,12 is John14:28 & John 20:17 fulfilled in heaven, in the spiritual realm.
You have ALWAYS BEEN ALLERGIC to the truth.
Your unreceptive heart can't change the holy Scriptures.(Rev3:5,12 is John14:28 & John 20:17) the very words of Jesus Christ you have refused to believe.

There are people following this thread who desire to be free from the bondage of a man made scam.
These posts here will open their eyes and heart to the truth.

solite3:
Good we are getting somewhere you are right that Jesus is not an angel.
As a Son he is God just like the Son of man is also man.
He is the begotten Son because unlike the angels he is God.

The Hebrew word for angels also mean son of God, that alone means Jesus Christ is an angel, anointed above his peers ={other angels, Hebrew1:4-6,9).
Solite3 lying Pharisees, angels are Elohim.
The truth is bitter.

solite3:
the question is for you, where was it written that everything was created through the father
Rather everything is by him, Just as the holy is.

Solite3 stop TWISTING the holy Scriptures.
** 1 Corinthians 8:6
Contemporary English Version
"We have only one God, and he is the Father.
He created everything, and we live for him."


Good News Translation
"Yet there is for us only one God, the Father,
WHO IS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS and for whom we live; and there is only one Lord,
Jesus Christ, through whom all things were
created and through whom we live."


Greek dia = THROUGH (antou=him). ( or by means of antou..(him.).

"By means of him.." = THROUGH him.
**For instance, your Father built the palatial mansion where he lives in.
A passers by,who doesn't know your Father, asks Solite3 "who built this mansion?

Solite3 answer : Not my father. His Engineer is the Source of the mansion.
Solite3 Pharisees wey get ZERO sense.

*Ephesians 3:14,15
"I bend my knees to God the Father to whom every family in heaven and earth owes it's name" .

*@Ephesians3:14,15 &Hebrew 1:4, Jesus Christ owes his name to his Father.
@ John5:26, Jesus says he owes his life to his Father.
Matt28:18, Jesus Christ says he owes his power and authority to his Father".

Solite3 Pharisees FRAUD theorist.

OLAADEGBU:
Why We Discourage Our Members From Watching Television - Pastor W.F. Kumuyi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qHnvxtu3rU

Pastor Kumuyi of Deeper Life Bible Church explains why the Church discouraged the members from watching television when the church started...

https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=olaadegbu+paradigm+shift&board=0
Shame on you, OLAADEGBU lying pharisee & worshipper of kumuyi.
You have ALWAYS denied on this platform that your cult of personality god was never against watching TV and owning TV set.

You no like pork, you no dey eat am but you keep am for your fridge for decoration.
Lie,lie Pharisee.

HarmonyJael:
.. Maybe Kumuyi's junk can teach you GOOD ENGLISH...thanks..����

Educated illiterate, what is code switching/code mixing?

brocab:
The truth is, if any religion can't seem to get their stories right about Jesus in the first place, then they have got Him wrong completely!!!

John14:28. John20:17. Matt 3:16,17. Matt16:13-17. Rev3:5,12.
Jesus Christ in heaven says his Father and God is your God.
Brocab, do you believe the words of Jesus Christ?

johnw47:
the Word Jesus Christ has been Everlasting Father since creating the Angels


Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

** Hebrew 10:10-13

10 And by that will we have been sanctified
through the offering of the body of
Jesus Christ once for all.

11 Every priest stands
daily ministering and offering
time after time the same sacrifices,
which can never take away sins;


12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

13 waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET.


*** Hebrews 10:10-13 says Jesus Christ "SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD," (to sit on his Father's throne) after his sacrificial death and resurrection to heaven.
"the government shall be upon his shoulder " & he shall become "The Everlasting Father" at the same time (as prophesied in Isaiah 9:6.)

Johnw FRAUD you sabi LIE.

solite3:
You display illogical foolishness smh
Proverbs 9:13
A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing.

Revelation 3:5,12 and John 14:28,John5:37 is your nemesis

solite3:
@ bolded

@bolded Here is what the bible say concerning Jesus.
Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Sonship has nothing to do with creation.

You are just an atheist in disguise.

Solite3 Antichrist in disguise.....
Hebrews 1:9, your "God" anointed by whom?
Hebrews 1:1-2,5 whose son?
The son of Our Father who art in heaven...

blueAgent:
James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded

The same God that frowns at those who are double minded has himself double consciousness hence one been the father and the other been the son that was praying for the cup to pass over him if his other consciousness will allow.

That's a typical example of a pagan god an not the Living God, the Holy one of Israel.

Don't mind those Trinity clowns and apprentice comedians.

blueAgent:
The Trinity doctrine says there are
THREE LITERAL GODS that are equal in
every way and that all THREE gods have
always existed. THREE gods that are co-
equal and co-eternal in other words.
But now we have a SERIOUS problem
because the Bible says there is only ONE
God.
SATAN via the Catholic Church says NO
PROBLEM…I have just the answer to
keep all deceived. We will teach that all
THREE GODS are really only ONE GOD!
1 + 1 + 1 = 1 !
THREE LITERAL GODS that are not really
3 GODS but 1 GOD. Make sense? No!
Why should it? It was made up by Satan
via the Catholic Church so Satan could
get worship and have Christians deny
the Father and Son and not even know
it !
Satan HATES the SON OF GOD and
wants us to deny Him. Not only that, but
we can only be saved by confessing that
Jesus is the Son of God. So how does
the Trinity doctrine deny the Father and
Son and give worship to Satan?
If they are 3 gods that have ALWAYS
existed, Jesus cannot really be a SON
and therefore God cannot really be a
FATHER.
And so the Bible now has hundreds of
lies! More unmistakable Scriptures are
denied than any other doctrine EVER !
And yet people just go on blindly
believing that it is right. Like lambs to
the slaughter as they say.
So God is not the Father of Christ and
Christ is not the Son of God says the
Trinity doctrine!
Every Scripture that says Jesus is the
Son of God is now a lie. Every Scripture
that says God is the Father is now a lie.
How many Scriptures suddenly become
a lie?....“HUNDREDS!”
The Bible says Jesus was God's Son
before He came to Earth. The Trinity
doctrine says No!
The Bible says Jesus is the Son of God.
The Trinity doctrine says No! He is just
ROLE PLAYING.
The Bible says God is the Father of
Christ. The Trinity doctrine says No! He
is just ROLE PLAYING.
Where is there ONE Scripture that even
hints they are not really a Father and
Son and that they are ROLE PLAYING?
IT DOES NOT EXIST !
The Bible says the Holy Spirit is the
“Spirit OF God” or the “Spirit OF the
Father.” The Trinity doctrine says No! It
claims it is something called “god the
spirit” which has a different meaning
and does NOT exist in Scripture but
came from antichrist !
So instead of the Holy Spirit being the
SPIRIT OF THE FATHER, it is now some
third god called “god the spirit.”
And if “god the spirit” is Satan's idea and
his creation…what spirit do you have in
you? And what spirit do you give your
adoration to? And what spirit do you
worship or pray to for those who are
now doing that also?
It will be SATAN !
The third person in the Trinity is actually
Satan, not the real Holy Spirit !
Christians need to wake up before it is
too late.

Gbam.
True talk.
The Trinity gang won't like this.

hefelove:
I'm 21, a female and i still bedwet have done so many things to stop this but it seems all my effort are fruitless am tired of living my life like this.

I even cut down my intake of food and water,
I've used so many herbal treatment it seems all is not working please nairalanders I need your help is there anything you think i can do...this whole thing need to stop.
This as been going on since childhood

There are medical,psychological/emotional and other perspectives to this matter.
OP, you have to try reminisce on your childhood days.
Where you sexually abused at that time?

Bed wetting is sometimes an offshoot of repressed memories of child sexual abuse in teenagers/adolescents and adults.
You need to consult a Psychologist to identify and resolve underlying issues.
Plus pray to uproot negatives. . Matt15:13.
May Jehovah heal you.
But OP,your moniker says you issa male but in your post,you issa female... Why issa your gender 2face?

solite3:
I have shown you countless facts and all you could do is throw insult. Only the truth can set you free.
Jehovah witness organisation demostrated their hatred for christianity in their magazines and teachings.
Christianity is has the truth only the spirit of antichrist hate the truth.

You resort to throwing tantrums because the Holy Bible has exposed your fraud.
The Antichrist doesn't believe that Jesus says he is the son of God in heaven and earth.
Revelation 3:5,12 and John 20:17.14:28. 6:46.

nutarious:
*@1)



The Word was never a Son from beginning and if we dwell on that then you wouldn't disrespect The Word and utter all form of ridiculous statements.

John said the Word became and that's why problems started for JW.

@2)
Lets go back to the Deity of the Word and give me a Scripture that makes the Word inferior? None, but immediately The word carried Flesh, inferiority started which is understandable base on his assignment.


@3)

Note especially in Ephesians 1 vs 10

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:


If its really knowledge, why would God allow a lesser creation to Administer Authority over even the reality in God as the last part of 1 vs 10 said, "even in Him" ref to God.

The Trinity is a hard nut to crack for small mind like those on this platform. Why? They are sourcing information from letters and comparing letter for letter, that's foolishly.

The letter killleth.

@1)
Which letter killeth?
John 17:17,the words of the Father of Jesus is Truth. If you really believe it,please Explain Romans8:3 ,who is Jesus before he took on the likeness of men?

@2)
John 14:28,Jesus says he is the Son inferior to his Father.
Revelation 3:5,12 .Is Jesus Christ the Father's Son in the spiritual realm?
Is the physical realm stronger than the spiritual realm?

Ephesians 1:3-10, by whose will are all things gathered together in the Christ?
Ephesians 1:17, 2Cor11:31, is Paul in agreement with your claims?
Your honest answers, please Nutarious.
Dodge none.

nutarious:
Hello dhear, Dealing with Jehovah Witness all over the years have made me realise they are not interested in discussing but winning theological point.

Am only trying to use logic for those that's interested in learning.

.

***2 Corinthians 11:31. Ephesians 1:3.
"The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, He who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. "

The Holy scriptures ,Ephesians 1:17 says your logic is Faulty and FRAUD.
.

solite3:
@1)
IS JESUS EQUAL TO JEHOVAH?

*1 Corinthians 15:28 – This verse identifies a change in the Son's position relative to the Father. What is the Son's position before subjecting himself to the Father? Equal to! This verse describes a change in position. The Son "becomes subject" to the Father. This means that at some point he is not subject and he changes position to "become subject."


@2)
IS JESUS THE EXACT REPRESENTATION OF THE FATHER?

*John 12:45 – He that beholds me beholds him that sent me"

@1)
"It Is Only Fools Who Dont Believe Jesus Is The Almighty God And They Will Die ! by bingbagbo(m): 7:24am On Sep 24"

**** 1 Cor15:24-28,bingbagbo and solite3, your "Almighty God " is subject to his Father in heaven (Rev3:5,12) and earth (John 14:28)...
You guys are amateur ,apprentice comedians.


@2*)
John 12:45,He that beholds Osinbade, beholds bubu who sent Osinbade.. ..
You know what. ... Osinbade is "THE EXACT REPRESENTATION OF bubu.....
Osinbade is bubu ...
Oh what aa "bingbagbo" and "solite3" qwarashion! !!!!

Fake News! !
OP, how many times have Jehovah's witnesses beaten you up?
That video has ZERO connection with Jehovah's witnesses.
DISCARD it.
0. PlugBlogng: Quote Pos

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HenryVIII:
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Ogbeni go and cry in Russia. Is that too hard. All these your tears here will still not stop u from being banned. Lol

Self-Archeology: Empathy And Laughing At Others’ Misery
blog.selfarcheology.com/2013/05/empathy-and-laughing-at-others-misery.html

"People laugh at others’ pain and misery, and demean others because they themselves feel unprocessed pain and are unhappy. "

Proverbs 24:17 ASV
"Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, And let not thy heart be glad ....."


On this thread, out of the vile of your evil heart, your uncouth mouth have spoken.
Shame on you.

johnw47:
Jesus didn't confirm that God is His throne
Jesus confirmed that the throne of God is Jesus throne


^^^ not God is my throne, but
the throne of God is my throne

the nwt is a perverted twisting of the bible

Psalm 45:6 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
6
Your divine throne[ a ] endures for ever and
ever.
Your royal scepter is a scepter of equity;
Footnotes:
a. Psalm 45:6 Or Your throne is a
throne of God,"
Rev 3:21 , Jesus Christ PROVED that
Hebrew 1:8 and Psalms 45:6 (RSV, NWT) is more ACCURATE than KJV.
In turn, 1 Chronicle 29:23 & 28:5 CONFIRM ACCURACY of Hebrew 1:8 and Psalms 45:6 (NWT,RSV) and Rev3:21.


**Johnw FRAUD man is NOT thinking straight anymore.. what a CONFUSED fellow!

Johnw FRAUD man ,shame on you LIAR. :DJohnw FRAUD man ,shame on you LIAR.