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GEJ has been a western puppet since day 1. Even yaradua refused to sign Africom but GEJ jumped on it like a blind fool. I wonder what d next 4 yrs will be like
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-424925.0.html

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1552/t/5717/signUp.jsp?key=3094

GEJ seem to me to be a puppet in every sense of the word. def. not a leader. PDP's puppet, Obama's puppet etc


I predict four yrs of this:

US govt: goodluck, you need to devalue your currency
GEJ: Master, your wish is my command.
US govt: I think al qaeda is behind the bomb blast, let us send our people into your country to check it out
GEJ: Master, your wish is my command.
US govt: goodluck, you must listen to everything we say. sell us your oil for free
GEJ: Master, your wish is my command.

I forsee (not hope) a better Nigeria. What with the varied make up of the N/assembly, they'l literally place him on the hotseat. Hopefully it'l turn out for good.

I truly hope so.

I support Buhari as well.

Lastly sir, let it be in your tenure of the next 4 years that Nigeria started producing its own cars, planes, toothpicks, matches and other good good things.

lol. I think you are way too optimistic. we shld be happy if we get just stable electricity at least.
maybe that's what Buhari fans have in common. we don't like to settle for the status quo.


nice thread

Gombs:
My heart goes out to all buhari fans out there. . .I can almost smell the acrid stench of abject failure in your posts, Pop champagne fop J-onathan E-bele G-oodluck A-zikiwe =JEGA

come on. act civilized.
Buhari fans feel disappointed but definitely don't feel like a failure.

This is Nigeria we're talking about anyway.

that's too bad. I was rooting for Buhari. I hope he runs again next term.

some boys men are not mature enough to be responsible in family life. it's not always about money.
i'm guessing OP falls into this category. jk

this thread reveals a lot lol

freecocoa:
I thought guys only complain of demanding girls,never knew not demanding is also a problem.

abi o

of course it's election time so GEJ will start PATCHING roads. after the election then I hope many of u don't start regretting your vote.

besides, I don't see much difference between the 2 pics posted up there. one during Yaradua's era and 2nd one with GEJ.

yea he's lucky really. there are tons of unemployed university graduates out there.
if he's smart, he will do something to establish himself after his music industry prime has passed. even if it means going back to school.

no big deal. schooling is overrated anyway

aguiyi:
abeg tell me its a joke,that chap is below 10

come on if u look more closely you will see that the pic on the card isn't him.
besides, why would a thief stop to pose for the camera before leaving the crime scene?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=646183.msg8122467#msg8122467 date=1302747786]This map of Africa tells a lot:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-of-HIV-Prevalance-in-Africa.png

Didn't know Cameroon was so high. Maybe that has something to do with it.[/quote]interesting map. If the map was to be more accurate, the top half of Nigeria will be greener (or yellow) and the south south/south east will probably be just as red as cameroon.  but I guess the rates on d map is based on aggregate statistics. I don't know the distribution in cameroon  though.

OP, I don't think young women feel that way at all. don't even know where that idea comes from

the young women will grow older someday afterall. growing older should be something to be proud of so in fact, younger ones will tend to look up to successful older women.

rotlmao

i guess he's trying to connect with 99% of Nigerians.

this is ridiculous! what would Jesus do? buying four luxurious private jets while many church members can't even afford three meals a day?

I'm female but hate long phone conversations as well.

somethings you can try:
-if you are getting irritated,  just tell the person that your head is hurting. which isn't a lie because at least psychologically it is.
-or tell the person you need to go do something(eat, work etc)
-your phone is getting hot. some ppl's phone get really hot after a long call.
-battery is dying
-need to take a nap/sleep. yawn to show this
- learn not to pick calls of repeated offenders!! if you see them tell them you are (naturally) lazy at keeping in touch. text them regularly though if you want maintain them as friends. or call them/pick their calls at least once a week.
- if majority of your friends are extroverts, try making friends that are equally or less extroverted than you are. but it's good to have some balance.




if the caller is your gf then you might need to suck it up like ileke-idi suggested.

ekt_bear, people didn't just automatically develop shared culture, values and heritage. it typically grows over very long periods of time. those successful countries you mention had their issues in the past too.
because how do cultures develop in the first place?

so shared culture alone won't create unity. you also have to make sure one group of people isn't being treated unfairly/ or being geographically segregated (ex.within yorubaland) etc otherwise, they will develop their own culture over time and we will be back again at square 1 etc

ie the reason it's hard for African americans to assimilate into US even though they have lived together for over 200 yrs!! it's because of marginalization and segregation. the political/institutional structures there kept integration from happening.

yes of course it won't happen in our lifetime. I think it is probably selfish to want it to happen in our lifetime. It reminds me of politicians and how their actions sometimes are not really for long term benefits  but rather some short term projects so that they can be re-elected/remembered. whereas these actions might actually be detrimental in the long term. I think it's better to think for the future rather than present. if our leaders during the slave trade days were thinking about the future rather than present material benefits they will gain, they would have reconsidered and not be compliant with slave trade because it brought terrible long term damages and also allowed colonization to happen. etc that's my opinion anyway. it may not be accurate.

for me, the more I read and learn about other nations/ their beginnings esp. in europe etc the more hope I have for Nigeria.
I really don't expect too many young people to have tribalistic sentiments as the older generation (I think you are an exception lol). A nigerian culture is developing. and over time, I think it will become stronger and people will see the whole "yoruba" "hausa" thing as more of a heritage rather than culture. If you are in lagos for example, most yoruba and igbo youths share similar cultures. their ethnic group has become more of a heritage only.

because they are used to looking down at people.

^ that's true. so two kwarans may be related to each other but one is yoruba and the other will be hausa. lol it gets all complicated after a while

Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]yea it's inside a plastic tin like dis, it's sweet innit [/color]

ribena? The one I know comes in a paper carton thing. the big size comes in a glass bottle.
I don't know about nowadays though. I guess they sell them in plastic containers now. lol

Some kwarans are all mixed up with yoruba and hausa aren't they. where would those fit.

Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]What's that drink that hausa people sell?it's like ribena or something [/color]

lol i used to buy ribena from a mallam

but they sell zobo too hahaha

one thing I know though is that  in areas of business entrepreneurship, Yoruba women are definitely doing great.
but when it comes to areas of politics and corporate enterprise then there is lots of stumbling blocks for us.

I think this is opposite for igbos. their men dominate the independent business/entrepreneurship market. and their women are probably doing better in the public sector.

[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=641673.msg8077882#msg8077882 date=1302242113]in yorubaland, politics tends to be exclusively controlled by the males for the most part.

rather risky territory for a female, because it's so intense and volatile.[/quote]definitely. not much gender equality in politics especially. we seem to be excluded.

IloveFred:
Welcome everybody. I am still happy. He is nice, cooks, wash plates, help me, we had our interview, our testimonies were the same.

no comment. enjoy your marriage while it lasts .

I've noticed the same thing as well.
I think that in order to find an explanation for it, we could go and observe gender equality in the different cultures.

In a homogeneous yoruba state,town or whatever, what percentage of females are assuming leadership roles compared to men?
in a homogeneous igbo state what percentage of females are assuming these roles.?
in a homogeneous hausa state, what % of women are leaders?

I think this will help us understand the patterns the appear if you bring all these men and women together. which women will tend to be more empowered than the others etc

I don't know. there are fine guys all over the world.

odemwinge is fine though. He's igbo i think.
https://www.soccerfiesta.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/peter_odemwingie.jpg

blackmale:
congrat jenifa, more grease 2 your elbow.

thnx!

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=12021.msg8069104#msg8069104 date=1302137187]Didn't you read the Wikileaks reports and see how the US and Shell have agents planted all throughout our gov't? Don't you think the multiculturalism of Nigeria makes it weak and prone to interference by outsiders?

Anyway, I feel more confident about a hypothetical Yorubaland (with probably 50 or 60 million+ people in it) being able to protect its interests better than Nigeria can. It isn't like the constituent countries would be banana republics.
You prefer 50 years of banging your head against the wall, continuing with something that simply doesn't work? Period? Why not try a new approach?
Then why didn't the Soviet Union or Chekoslovakia just "improve the system"? Both of those former countries are FAR better off now than if they'd muddled along in a bad marriage.

This is hypothetical fearmongering. Plus, there is nothing preventing that from happening now. . . but largely speaking it does not. Why would it be more likely to happen in a separate state than now?
Anyway, this imo is a ridiciulous point; Yoruba for the most part view themselves as one today. . . time, intermarriage, and having other rivals/enemies in the country have united us. No reason to believe this would fall apart (other than fearmongering.)
Bleh, screw that. I want economic progress. A country I can be proud of. A country that stands tall in the community of nations. Nigeria right now doesn't offer any of those things. Botched elections, mediocre presidential candidates, terrible governors and leaders, etc, etc. Why is that so compelling to you?
You've not answered the question, though. I think you are implicitly are agreeing that there is no basis for unity. Wishful thinking and dreaming is not enough.[/quote]@ bolded part. why do you think i'm arguing for more integration?
who says Nigeria can't also be united over time? Think about it, if we set the groundwork now, plenty yrs into d future, our grandkids wouldn't be able to imagine a divided Nigeria. Just like most Americans now can't imagine that Virginia existed as a separate colony from North Carolina 2 centuries ago.

your question is very abstract. you say the basis of Nigerian unity is oil. so what is the basis of cameroonian unity? or Tanzanian unity? etc
what do you think should be the basis for unity?
or are you arguing against the idea of a political state? 

I think your idea of Yoruba nation is a greater wishful thinking and dreaming than my idea of a more developed Nigeria.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=12021.msg8068634#msg8068634 date=1302131279]What are your reasons for saying this? Aren't people better off managing their own affairs?

What is the basis for Nigerian unity other than oil?

And with your sort of reasoning, why shouldn't all of West Africa be one country? 

The real problem I have with your philosophy is that most of the components of Nigeria are being stifled right now. Nigeria is a country where the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. So we'll continue to bumble along together indefinitely, rather than achieving great heights separately.[/quote]1.we live in a very globalized world nowadays and I feel that that a united Nigeria gives us a better edge than three little powerless countries. ex. most powerful countries today are US, China. Even Europe formed a union for a reason.
2. we've done this for 50yrs+ and starting over will be more difficult than you think. It's easier to improve a system than overhaul it
3.who says the ijebus won't rise up against the ifes etc. or minor groups within igbo land won't start warring.

Even if all of West African were to become one country, it would take at least a century or close to that to happen. going back to point #2.
it's not just about politics and technical work. a lot of it is also personal and psychological. at least for me part of my identity is being a Nigerian and I def. don't want to lose that.


for the answer to your question about the basis of Nigerian unity, look around you to other african countries. how many besides Sudan have broken up? do they all have oil? aren't they all multicultural?

cheikh:
Jenifa
@Jenifa
There are fairly good transportation system existing in Nigeria relative to other African countries. It's not perfect by no stretch of the imagination. The exchange of goods and services already exist without the government. Businesses already are venturing out. I'll wish for the government to decentralise by transferring some large government departments out of Abuja to different parts of the country. That action in itself will force Nigerians from different parts of the country to move about and partake of other cultures and perhaps help expand the economy beyond the city centres and what we have now.

I just wish the govt could do something/ come up with measures to integrate the country better. You seem to know more about the system than I do and I have to agree with you that it partially has to do with location of cities like you pointed out. cities are generally the central points or "melting pots"

ex. people living in southern Nigeria are so disconnected from the north( and vice versa) in so many ways. I was embarrassed to meet people from Niger and Chad that ask me about hausa movie stars and I didn't even know there was a booming movie industry up there in my own country. I mean I sort of knew but it was just a wow moment for me how clueless I am about people in my own country. we just aren't connected enough I guess. take nairaland for example. it's mostly representative of  just 50% or southern half of the country.

I know the issue is a lot more complicated but i'm sure there are things to be done to facilitate integration.

This kind of goes back to ajanlekoko's point about turning "colonial legacies" around and making it our own. I guess I agree with him on more points than I had realized.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=12021.msg8043004#msg8043004 date=1301836427]I'm not sure that this is accurate? Federal gov't is very strong due to certain laws passed/institituions created, but the US States are FAR more independent than the Nigerian ones.

Right now Nigeria is a fake federalism.
I don't think secession is a bad idea. I think if you thought about what would happen if naija didn't have any oil, you will agree.[/quote]well my point was that Nigeria shouldn't adopt this kind of federalism quoted below because we are still very fragile.
there are varying levels of federalism. i.e the north was allowed to go ahead with their sharia laws. but letting each region take full control over their economy,commerce etc will be calling for trouble.

and the US fed govt does take power away from the state "when/as necessary." ie the "necessary and proper" clause in order to protect the country. because unity of the country is the ultimate goal. although US is a federalist country.

I'm definitely not for secession. If Nigeria didn't have oil, I still wouldn't support secession.

Only institutions like the armed forces, foreign policy, judiciary, and legislature should be supported at the center.
Economy, Commerce, Industry, foreign investment, works, science, technology, education, even civil policing, all should be regionalized.

Vickivicki:
kudos jenifa

thank u

congrats to her.

I also think she's very pretty.