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Na waa o, so "biafrans" can be this reasonable, kanu himself making a case for hausa man? No more kill them, one millionl soldiers, threat today and tomorrow,#biafraordeath. This is what we've been saying all along. We tried cautioning him but words weren't enough. He had to be locked up before he realized that London and kuje ain't the same. Now he and his followers are beginning to reason, while still in the same "ZOO". The agitation wouldn't have met such resistance from other ethnicities if he had started this way, instead of threatening and abusing us while being urged on by his gullible followers

ThatCEO:
I can only see two scenarios here. First, Kanu takes whatever deal Buhari is offering him via Kalu n goes back to his family who are already sick of all this, while the FG take care of him in other ways.

Or, he can wait for a bigger PayDay. Atiku will be glad to use him as an inroad into the East for his 2019 campaign. A fact the ruling party are getting aware of, hence, their desperation and frequent high profile visits.

In the event he doesn't soft pedal n Pmb retains presidency, his contract in kuje will be extended by another 4 years.

Either way, I don't see how Easterners benefit from this. This is Nigeria, the more noise you make, the more money in your account. The Easterners are not ready to separate from Nigeria simply because Kanu has not told the Eastern leaders where the next allocation will come from once they separate. This Biafra thing just can't work now.

He is unjustly detained tho n should have been out on bail.

We need to stop arguing about this Kanu thing like Motorpark touts, these guys are just playing all of us in the name of Biafra. Else, why is Soludo publicly flirting with Kanu when an election is around the corner? How is Obiano supposed to feel? A man who can't publicly be associated with Kanu (even if he wants to) because he gets his allocation from Daura?

Biafra has been hijacked! And Kanu will be used to fulfill some people's political aspirations.

I said the same a month ago. He will be used so they rag go better pass am. Only the igbo elite can benefit from this, the others shouting, protesting and dying are on their own

tunjijones:
Most people dont have problem with Kanu call for Biafra. What people are angry about is the way he is going about it. (Inciting Comments he made about Yoruba and hausa). and all other terrible things he said.

# fact

Kathmandu:
The President should put his house in order and the country will progress. How can there be a power tussle in his house and he kept mute



Only fools believe buhari is running this country.



President Mamman Daura for 2019 continuation

it is so obvious that while the president seems fit, he has surrendered the mandate Nigerians gave him to the cabal, his wife said it and we all thought she went overboard. Now it's as glaring as daylight that what we have at the top is a sick, weak figure head. Very unfortunate

Lawalemi:
I'm surprised at the dummies celebrating her detention

im sorry for her, but honestly we don't need people like her. We are not in America where they get depressed over inadequate gossips. Far from that, we need activists not gossipers

BigBen10:
see the disgrace of a senator(dino) seating at the feet of his gods. You wonder if he isnt a senator just like saraki. No dignity no self respect no honour. Saraki be using him to clean nyash. He reminds of one mumu senator from the movie series "House of Cards". After the underwoods used him to wipe ass several times they finally dumbed him. Such is the fate of dino.

I disagree, in politics, loyalty is rare and Dino has consistently displayed his unwavering loyalty to Sarah, stuck by him through thick and thin, and that's the only thing I admire about Dino forsee Those two being together for a while, their bond most likely exceeds usual friendship,proly brotherhood tins

oyinkinola:
The dilemma of Igbo jew status;
*Population
*Faith
*Nigerian status
*Exodus back to Israel

JEWISH POPULATION:
"Most estimates I have seen suggest that there are about 13-14 million Jews in the world. The vast majority of these Jews live in either the United States and Israel; Israel with over 6 million Jews and America with about 5.5 million. There are about 1.5 million Jews in Europe (a third of them in France), 400,000 in Latin America and 400,000 in Canada. In Africa, there are less than 75,000 Jews, about 90% of whom live in the country of South Africa. There are about 125,000 Jews in Australia and New Zealand combined. There are about 40,000 Jews in Asia (not including Israel), half of them in former Soviet Union countries."

*Exodus back to Israel
"Jews continue to immigrate to Israel in large numbers. Immigration to Israel is referred to as aliyah (literally, ascension). Under Israel's Law of Return, any Jew who has not renounced the Jewish faith (by converting to another religion) can automatically become an Israeli citizen"
*Faith
Judaism

Here are the pathetic questions;
Igbo is 30million in Nigeria! how Igbo manage to double the total population of Jew in the world?
Can Igbo dropped christianity for judaism?
How can Israel and Igbo manage the exodus of Igbo(30million) returning back to Israel?
Can Igbo lost Nigerian status to Jew status?
Oyinkinola.

lol op is mad , if it is confirmed that truly there's a link, the obvious problem will be which of them will be allowed to nationalize, I trust my igbo peeps, even if dem dna no match dem go wan become Jews by the time 30 mill igbos start clamouring and jostling to become recognized Jews ehn, even Israel sef go deny them. But seriously I don't know why some of them are trying so hard to be Jews.

Cooly100:
See fear? When you publicly state that you want Kanu dead for nothing, you should expect a repercussion...For peace to reign at least for now, he should be released along with other political prisoners.

this is better. An empty but not-unreasonable treath, unlike the one I quoted

unstableaswater:
Alot of Nigeria soldiers die in Bornu but it is only ranking officers that we hear in the news, that is just an example. Many of u commenting here will become refugee and stuggle to find another country to live.
From Lagos to Sokoto, Bornu to Cross Rivers will be heavy fighting. Nigeria Army will be divided along religious and ethnic lines, foreign Army will take sides with either Niger Delta, Boko Haram or IPOB. The southwest will have to deal with militant offensive. The causualty will run into the tens of millions on all sides combined, things will truly fall apart.

ok, you are telling me if another biafran war breaks out it will be fought in other places except South east? So ipob will attack sokoto, Lagos, born, cross rivers at the same time?I will advise you to ask those around you to vet your posts in the future....for your own good

nice try op, we all know you are trying to create an anambra vs ebonyi, or abia vs enugu like we normally see here, but you didn't need the tread to know how United yoruba are. Just ask those you meet on your day to day life. What were you expecting. That we start trading insults on which state is better? We don't roll like that, try another method

I honestly don't know what the hell is going on here. Thumbs up to the true Igbos who have spoken up for what is right . hate won't solve anybody's problems, if he is eligible to contest let him

pazienza:
We are not Nigerians! We are Biafrans!

The above must not be tampered with.

Israel never gave up hope of establishment of an independent state of Israel. They could have started chanting, We are Germans! for those of them in Germany.

But they didn't. They were able to hold unto their identity.

Its Ironic that the writer of this article is using Israel to compare Biafra, and yet ended up not recognizing the fact that even in Germany, Russia, America,etc Israelis never stopped being Jews! So how dare this writer tell Biafrans to stop being Biafrans and instead start being Nigerians?
Is that not a form of cognitive dissonance there?

I agree with some of the other points he raised on how we can go about achieving Biafra, like Israelis did theirs.

In the end, there is a conflict of thought on the part of the writer.
On one hand, he was advising Biafrans on how to achieve Biafra silently by copying the Israeli method.
On the other hand, he was advising Biafrans to forget Biafra and embrace Nigeria.


Verdict: The writer is confused and should not be taken seriously.

You may not agree with the opinion of the writer but you will agree the prospect of getting a biafran state is just too minute at the moment. Protests, wearing Jewish garb or biafran colors, insulting others, just won't cut it. So the unanswered question is how to achieve an independent biafra. Even the neutrals would know ipob isn't doing enough to bring the dream to fruition. After all the time wasted on protests, the jew fetishes, insulting the rest of us, you may need a plan afterall.

DocHMD:
Don't you think the joke is on you for arresting and killing people who make 'empty threats'? Why waste tax payers money on prosecuting people who make empty threats when the money could have been used to pay your parents who are civil servants?

no one has the right to threaten another person, whether it's real or empty is besides the point. It's against the law

kingzizzy:
Personally, I dont believe there is any Yoruba man, alive or dead, who has the guts to secede from Nigeria.

Its easy to call Ojukwu names, but to have the guts to do what he did is no small feat.

guts for sacrificing millions of his people only to run away dressed like a woman?and coming back later after being pardoned to contest an election in the same country? Mba that is the kind of guts every sensible being never want to see manifest. That one na evil spirit of legion order

"Nigeria is indissoluble" -Zik 1953, regional govts abrogated by ironsi 1966 decree 34.the British didn't force anything on us.if we must point fingers, then we should not be sentimental.

pazienza:
I'll be back later to provide rebuttals to any of your posts.

Till then, keep it coming.

have you decided what course of action to take. Because as it stands we are solidly behind Zik's pronouncement despite all your cries for freedom. Protests, wearing Jewish garb even though you don't know what it means, and having a certain someone sit in kuje to eat free beans while hoping to beat mandela's record will not solve the problem.

CliffordOrji:
This is one of the many reasons why I often say we Igbos are fools. You keep yapping about Ilorin and Afoinja. Did you know that Bukola Saraki is from Ilorin? Did you know that Bukola Saraki is a direct descendant of the real Afonja? Yet while Saraki's kinsmen were busy stoning him in the wake of his trial at the CCB, we Igbos were busy licking his shiity asshole. We were busy protesting in support of Saraki, Afonja's great great great grand child. Are we Igbo's cursed?

lmao , this is what my people refer to as "oro pesi je" aka it is finished

deji15:
For his efforts, Zik got the Abuja Airport named after him, the Nigerian 500 Naira note , streets and so many other local and National monuments.
It is too late to cry when the head is off.
If that secession clause has been allowed in the Nigeria constitution pre independence, it is most likely that it would have made its way into subsequent Nigeria constitution draft and final version (1954, 1960, 1963, 1979, 1993 and 1999).
To change the Nigeria constitution now will require practically everybody to endorse it.
2/3 NASS, 2/3 state NASS from 2/3 States of the federation compared to when 3 or 4 people are calling the shots.

the deed has been done, they tried to outsmart the rest of us. They knew they were a people prone to wander as Zik himself grew up in the north. They wanted unfettered access to the riches from the length and breadth of Nigeria as a citizen .and that they did, but posterity made sure all the wealth they got didn't go to their land. Now they don't want to stay but cant leave either. Confused lot

pazienza:
The fifth citizens of Nigeria know themselves. Their masters remind them of that everyday with no remorse. Ilorin is there to point us right!


"...We also captured Ilorin, killed their local King
and installed our Fulani Emir. We took that ancient
town away from the barbarian Yoruba and their
filthy pagan gods. We liberated all these places
and all these people by imposing Islam on them by
force. It was either the Koran or the sword, and
most of them chose the Koran..."

Chew on the above.

Hehe!

good that we have settled the part of Zik being the only one able to negotiate with the north. Now as for who's the fifth class citizen, I would think it is those who haven't and never will rule Nigeria. That is considering the ijaws have had a go at it already. We should also ponder the issue that there are certain people clamouring for freedom today, those who have already fought and lost,but still haven't earned the right to eat at the table. Let's discuss that

pazienza:
One Nigeria piloted by the Igbo was a progressive one with potentials. Where diplomacy was the basic tool of negotiations.

One Nigeria piloted by Arewa-oduanistanis is a failed third world colonial entity, where savagery and death threats are tools of negotiations and diplomacy is an alien word.

Zik won Awolowo in an argument for Nigerian unity. He used force of superior intelligence, rationality and logic tampered with diplomacy to push for Nigerian unity.

Today, Arewa-oduanistanis can't provide a rational argument for the need for continual existence of Nigeria, their intelligence is Zero and rationality is twisted.
Their bargaining chip is coercion and threats of death on dissenting voices.
Little wonder the colonial entity under Arewa-oduanistanis is a failed entity.

Ndiigbo had since rejected you and your failed union, and there is nothing you can do about it other than offer twisted logics and death threats

The shame is on you.

so are you saying Zik was the only person who could reason with the northerners, you also said they had no intelligence. But don't you think the fact that they ve been keeping you as 5th class citizens demonstrates a lot about your own "intelligence" Now my friend. Since you didn't object when your leader Zik was negotiating with the north who you knew to be all these things you wrote. You will have to go and wake Zik to come and negotiate with them now.

pazienza:
Unfortunately for you,we don't do hero worship in Igboland.

Zik was entitled to his opinions then, and maybe [b]those opinions served the political outlook of Ndiigbo then.

But currently they don't. [/b]And the current Igbo youths would chart our political destiny in tandem with prevailing political climate around us. Our sovereignty is ours and we determine when to take or drop it. Our right to self determination is sacrosanct and we will exercise it, while you ultimately will end up in your destined republicak of Arewa-oduanistan with your Arewa partners.

so your people thought they could do as they wish. Wanting something only when it favours you? You will have to take responsibility for the mess you created first. One Nigeria was the igbo people's brainchild when things was rosy. You won't be allowed to abandon it like Zik said in 1953 "Nigeria is indisolluble "

pazienza:
Zik never threatened Awolowo or the North with War should they secede. He made it clear that anything more than diplomacy was not for him.
Don't know the war you speak of.

We know the slaves of Nigeria, their masters are always there to point us right.

"...We also captured Ilorin, killed their local King
and installed our Fulani Emir. We took that ancient
town away from the barbarian Yoruba and their
filthy pagan gods. We liberated all these places
and all these people by imposing Islam on them by
force. It was either the Koran or the sword, and
most of them chose the Koran..."

No Igboman stood on Awolowo or Yolobas path to secession in 50's, Awolowo was as always speaking with both side of the mouth. Just as no one stood on your path to secession in 1960's but Awolowo again chose Nigeria , driven by greed and lust for power, ganged up with Gowon, dissolved the regional set up of Nigeria and to worsen it, Awolowo economic blueprint that led to indigenization of foreign companies led to the death of those companies at the hands of incompetent greedy yolobas who Awolowo ensured acquired them after his 20 pounds policy took the Igbos out of the equation.

To make matters worst another treacherous Yoloba man called OBJ enacted the demonic land use decree that killed what was left of Nigeria.

Yolobas are the reason Nigeria will remain a failed Colonial entity.

Zik believed Nigeria is indissoluble, because he was ready to negotiate the feasiblity of Nigeria, he was ready to sacrifice power to keep it united.

ok I get it, you wanted Awolowo to go to war, while you align with the north right. No wonder you fell into the trap you set for your neighbor. We thank God for the foresight he gave Awolowo to avoid a war that would have made us fifth class citizens today. Zik used his raport with the north tovmanipulate the northerners for his own selfish gains. That is the cause of your never ending struggle today.

shukuokukobambi:
If you agree with zik that the Union was indissoluble in 1953. If you agree with zik that ojukwu invited war by committing the treasonable act of secession in 1967, why are you disturbing us with ipob and massob today?

What has changed between 1953 and today with respect to the indissoluble nature of this Union as zik described and affirmed by you?

they are fickle minded people who don't know jack about statecraft. Imagine the people of Britain coming out today to say they don't want brexit anymore? How is that possible, even though most admitted they voted in ignorance, they know better than that they must follow through with it ,how can mentally stable people want One Nigeria today only to go to war 12 years later against the people who weren't disposed to it in the first place . What gave them the right?

pazienza:
"Secondly at the 1954 Constitutional Conference
that was held in Lagos, the Action Group, under the
distinguished leadership of Chief Obafemi
Awolowo, demanded that the “right to secession”
be included in the proposed new constitution. This
was rejected by the Colonial Secretary, Oliver
Lyttleton."
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/time-
think-femi-fani-kayode/

Never did Zik stop Awolowo or any Nigerian group from secession. The British simply made no room for secession of any group from Nigeria.

Bamenda that pushed for secession were given the option of either joining Cameroon of remaining with Nigeria.

The idea that Zik forced Awolowo or anyone from secession from Nigeria is a regular yoloba falsehood aimed at explaining away the cowardice of Awolowo in cowering before the British demand rather than forcing secession if he wanted one.

so what changed for you Igbos? the North and West wanted to leave, you pleaded and aligned with the north, and the West had to avoid war and join the union or risk a war. The war that eventually found its way to your doorsteps 12 years later. You wanted ONE NIGERIA at that time because of your greed, the greed that eventually led you to your present state of servitude to the ONE NIGERIA that you love so much. And to imagine it wasn't only Zik,ironsi later finished what Zik started. Thank God for the sage Awolowo, what your people experienced 12years later because of your greed would have been our cross to bear if he didn't avoid the impending war . again in Zik's voice "Nigeria is indissoluble"

In Zik's voice, "Nigeria is indissoluble"

Aufbauh:
I don't know that the people at the top also understand their tactics and antics

its so glaring,subtlety isn't their strong suit. I posted the same thing about the recent visits to kanu recently. The guy own don finish by the time he realizes how igbo leaders have been using him, hin eye go clear. They have to choose either agitate for biafra and leave or stay and pursue diplomatic relations with the rest of us. Blackmailing to get undue advantages won't work

FriendNG:
If this is what you told me in the first quote I would not have said anything. But you quote me with the opposite of this.

what i saw was the mention of reprisal attack and wondered how you would feel if there had been reprisal for what happened in Kruna. And many other parts of the north. My people are peace loving. We are rarely aggressors. And the location was a battle ground. Ife/modakeke war was between brothers but it only ended when both sides got tired of senseless killings. Your people need to show restraint perhaps more than the rest of us. There are just too many witnesses of the attrocities that has happened in the north.

FriendNG:
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Hypocrite you're happy in your mind.

I ask you again does the crap you wrote justify the killing. Blood tasty Terrorist.

my first comment on your abominable thread was to condemn what happened. And I also said when you are far away from home, the best way to tackle a crisis is through dialogue. The Hausa community should never have attacked a man, they could have arrested him and handed him over to the Police. My people never attacked any Hausa man even in kano.especially over sus small misunderstanding. Your people need to value patience

FriendNG:


Am not interested in the above crap you wrote. Can't even waste my time to read it.

What Yoruba did to Hausa in Ife is wrong whether you like it or not and should be condemned. Nobody is looking forward for reprisal attack. I even said it, requital attack should not happen because innocent souls will be killed.


But if this is what you want: Let me rewrite.

What Yoruba did to Hausa is commendable and should be encourage. That is literacy and educational advanced region

when you hear me laugh off your comments its not as if im in support of what happened its just that i find the Irony funny. Hausa man complaining about what is fair or not. I give you a monument of destruction causen by your people in kano. Have you seen any close to that in IFE. You have no shame. Ask your people how much blood is on their hands when they are done. You wont be able to type anymore les alone try to condemn a tastw of what your people have been dishing out for decades

FriendNG:
Foolish there is no good in harming those who did not harm you. And that's what I write in my original post.

Mr man, you came into this world too late. Hausa/fulani people have lost the right to claim to be reasonable. I spent 12 years in kano and all thrrough that time, it was either one ethnic crisis or another religious crisis.a lot of yoruba and igbo people lost their lives there. Kruna a predominantly yoruba part of kano state was razed to the ground around 1998.right in the heart of the City, where when driving round you could see miles of destruction wrought by your people. So stop threathening reprisals. Your people have been senselessly killing others with out provocation , your people have been branded blood thirsty, senseless animals so if you act that way no one will be suprised. If you are as reasonable as you arent trying to claim, you can start enlightening your people to stop their barbaric acts , though i doubt if it wont be a was te of time. So i say once against, you came too late, your people are almost irremediable and yes there are good ones among you, but not just enough

Im yoruba but truly im not confortable with this, though i would have been even more uncomfortabe if this had gone the other way round. The hausa/fulani community needs to show some respect. I lined in the north during the worst ethnic crisis in this country. Never was there an instance where the yoruba community decided to embark on a suicide mission by confronting their hosts over a small misunderstanding. The hausa community in almost every yoruba town has representatives ive met a house of assembly member from my own state. They should have reported to the authorities.not trying to exact unproportional revenge as if they own the place and certainly not in ife.they should know that such insult would be answered . Yorubas have always been peace loving and accomodating, we will settle this and this would return to normal.

naijacampu:
Inferiority complex at it's best, thank God an average Igbo don't have your mentality.

I can only advise, i cant force you to be reasonable