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zodiakzax:
....I have nothing more to say... you are just stupid.... you want to write your bible...I beg go and read Hebrews well and tell the writer he's stupid... better still go and tell your organization this and you will be disfellowshiped, you are even more stupid and ignorant than the ones here... .. here to to your own stupid website and educated.. as stupid as they are at least they are not as foolish as you are..... go and read and see Jesus is the only son of God because He was the only begotten.. .... pagan


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989240

Revelation 2 : 18_ Jesus said he is Son of God. I don't know what exactly is your problem , So because Isaac is only begotten he isn't a son, Sense , sense , sense ,

Psalm 89:6 Bro

zodiakzax:
You are so stupid... go and read your own foolish organization calling you are fool.


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003331

As stupid and twisted as they are at least they admit Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.....


The angels of heaven are sons of God even as Adam was a “son of God.” (Ge 6:2; Job 1:6; 38:7; Lu 3:38) But the Loʹgos, later called Jesus, is “the only-begotten Son of God.” (Joh 3:18)

From your own site.... stupid fool....

Small sense u don't have. Jesus himself said he is Son of God at Revelation 2:18 , U still fighting him ?

No son of God is Yahweh ooooooo

Only begotten son is still a son , Isaac is a son, Jesus is a son of God too. , haba just imagine the disgrace u are giving yourself here

TATIME:
When they gather together against JWs, i keep wondering what's in their minds?
They're trying to say JWs organization is wrong.OK you're all having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, so which one should the JW you're converting join amongst all of you? Yawa go gas!

Lolz

zodiakzax:
...... you see how you enter boiling water...


For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6 KJV


So who is the Father here too?

I am going to my Father AND YOUR FATHER . - John 20:17,, that's Jesus telling us who is our father , Yahweh not himself


Like I always tell you, u are just a desperate liar. U know u have been caught.

1. No son of God is Yahweh

2. Yahweh is our Father.

Isaiah 63:9 Yahweh is our Father. , Jesus is not the Father. The above is a title, it never said " OUR " Father Is Jesus , " OUR father" __ and " YOUR " John 20:17 point to one single person, NOT Jesus

Desperate Boy, is Jesus OUR Father ?

Stop embarrassing your self outside, even Jesus said you lied. John 20:17.

Peacefullove:
And if that encyclopedia lied, why not prove it wrong ? Is that too hard ? like I said you don't have what it takes to discuss intelligently, Thanks to that Jw member Jozzy4 , He even let us see how you misquote and lied against an innocent article to make it support you. See your life .

Question remains: Why is the bible supporting that encyclopedia by linking birthdays celebration with pagans ?

U can never answer that. Because u are arguing emotionally and not with facts

Fact!

zodiakzax:
That's why I said you 're stupid.. ... in the beginning was the Word, the word was with God..... this tells your small brain that there are two persons here... And the Word was God.. this tells you that that person is also God.... this one was in the beginning with God... The Word, second person of the trinity was there in the infinite with God, and the Word is also God, God with God .. .... you are stupid... how can man and woman be one when they marry? ..And the two shall become one flesh..Mark 10:8-9.... how can two flesh become one? Stupid idiot.... you should question that too... .. you are the most stupid and useless JW I've ever come across...

You still don't have sense Sir.

Bucket. With Bucket doesn't mean One Bucket . .. It's two Buckets.

God WITH God proved two Gods.both are different entity and each is God, and they are with Each. Other


Am sure u have met something stronger than your teeth in that John 1:1 , So solve your problem, how come u have Two Gods that are with Each other ?

zodiakzax:
..look at this stupid one too, Yahweh said i ALONE I'M GOD, he didnt say I alone I'm supreme God, you are stupid and trying to be stupid... idiot... we only have ONE God and One Lord which is Yahweh.... stop pooing here and there.. bunch of potatoes... pagans... you think we are fools like you? ... there are so called gods and lords... But unto us there is but One God and One Lord.... ...

If supreme is too hard for your sense to understand

Who is the SOVEREIGN Lord of heaven and earth ?

He has no equals, no son of God Is Yahweh, they are just mighty ones [gods]

brocab:
Now if we were to mention to a Child about the Trinity word, of course at first they wouldn't understand, but if we were to explain the seed about the God head, then maybe if I could help you understand-maybe you could learn it by the seed.
But because you can't seem to understand the scriptures spiritually-then I will try to give you a better understanding how simple it really is, when we say Jesus and His Father are One. Three persons in One!!!
It is quite simple to understand when we say Jesus is One with His Father, "our own Father put his seed into your Mother-both seeds, made you, your seed and your parents seed are one seed, usually what happens in life as we grow, we end up either like our Father's Seed or our Mother's seed, so in most cases we end up like our parents, Just like Jesus-He is the Son of God and He is also knowing as the Son of Man. So the Son of Man is not just a human figure but He was spiritual figure Like His Father..
He obeyed "His" Father-done everything His Father told Him to Do-Because the Fathers seed Is Jesus's seed, like He was also His Mother Mary's seed.
Usually what happens in the genealogies seed, sometimes we may either look like our parents, like if my father is bob the builder, and I grow to be just like my father, I may become bob the builder too, working to be like my father, our parents seed's runs through our veins.
If your father is violent towards your mother and siblings, usually what happens you may become violent towards your relationships..
In some cases we take after our grands-because it was their seed that made your parents seed, your father maybe like his father, or like His father before him..Genealogies are seed's..
Now understand when Jesus said: He and His Father are One, God's seed became one seed with Virgin Mary through the Holy Spirit, Jesus loved His Father and His Mother also, the story about Jesus at the age of 12 years, Mary and Joseph were looking for Him, after they found Jesus witnessing in the court yards, She said: why have you done this to us, He said: I am doing My Father's work.
At the age of 12 years the Pharisees sat down and listened to Jesus-puzzled why Jesus had so much knowledge about God. We can't get this information without Having the Spirit of God in Us.
'He wasn't doing His Step fathers work, but God His Father's work. "Jesus is not only Human He is also One seed with His Father's seed. Jesus was also a Carpenter like Joseph, but Joseph seed didn't connect with Jesus, "Plus Joseph did not enter his seed into Mary until Jesus was born! Remember what Jesus said: to Thomas if you have seen Me you have seen My Father also..God eternally exists in three Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; and that these three are one God, co-equal and co-eternal, having precisely the same nature and attributes, and worthy of precisely the same worship, confidence, and obedience. {Matthew 3:16, 17; Matthew 28:19, 20; Mark 12:29; John 1:14; Acts 5:3, 4; 2 Corinthians 13:14}
{John 17:20-21} I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message, that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. 'May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
Jesus's seed is God the Father and the Holy Spirit-We are connected to accepting His Spirit by becoming a born again, we are connected to Jesus through His Word, we are sinners-finishing our race, seeking His kingdom, studying His Word, connecting to the God heads seed.
{Genesis 1:26-27} Then God said, ‘‘Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them...
I am not expecting you to understand how simple this actually sounds, but it is quite simple if you chose to put your mind to it! Study your family seed?

I pity those you tutor Bible with this useless rants. And attaching scriptures you dont understand

Psalm 89:6 No son of God is Yahweh . that means Jesus Is not Yahweh . why is that too hard for you ?

zodiakzax:
Stupid idiot.. and the Word was God, sometimes you sound so foolish... what is the trinity? Go and learn about it before disgracing yourself here..... now, let's see why you 're stupid, your NWT says and the Word was a god, another god, in vs two going by your own assumption then this one (a god) was in the beginning with God... two gods in question here, na you get sense pass wey you never show am.. ...... The Word is God, and yes God was in THE beginning wirh God because there are three persons in the God head the father, son and holy spirit... Son can be with the Father, God with God ..thats the Trinity... not another god with God ....stupid potatoes...

Sense just elude you guys

With is used for more than one. So one God is with another God.

God was WITH God

Two Gods.

Open your sense and see the meaning of " With "

johnw47:
confused false jw joz of no sense or understanding at all
read again and remain confused:

No sense.

Who and who are WITH each other at John 1:1,2 ?

zodiakzax:
Show me a verse that says Yahweh is the Father? ...u don enter boiling water....

Ordinary Psalm 89:6 u are yet to get over or explain. No Son of God is Yahweh. That alone has expose you.

Isaiah 63:16 - Yahweh is our Father.

For you are our Father, though Abraham doesn't know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us: you, Yahweh, are our Father; our Redeemer from everlasting is your name.

zodiakzax:
...you really disgrace yourselves and your stupid organization... Jesus alone is the Begotten Son of God...no angel was begotten of God as a son.....that's the lie they feed you yet they go behind you to say only Jesus is the Begotten of God... brain washed idiots..

Assuming you have sense, it would have tell you a begotten son is as well a Son of God . Rev 2:18

Psalm 89:6 , no Son of God is Yahweh.

Use your sense

johnw47:
false jw jozzy, you are sure as duh as the other false jw's here,
but then you are all told what to believe

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. 

you think you have a point with verse 2, verse 2 will expose my frauds, laugh
verse 2 say's exactly the same as verse 1, ha ha

verse 1: "and the Word was with God"
verse 2 : "The same was in the beginning with God"

they are two persons in God, not two gods as you false jw's believe in
almighty god the father
and mighty god the son

You don't have sense, who is referred to as " The same "? The Word.

And if the Word was God, it means . the same [ who was God ] is in the beginning WITH God [ the Father ]

So we have two GODS with each other. WITH proves they are more than one.

Use your sense

zodiakzax:
... but unto us there's but One God and One Lord...my friend it is clear.. Yahweh said i alone I'm God there's none to before me or after me..


I am the Lord , and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord , and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:5‭-‬6 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/isa.45.5-6.KJV


My friend stop being stupid if you believe there are many gods and Yahweh is the greatest then you are a pagan And a polytheist.. it is clear that unto us THERES BUT ONE GOD AND ONE LORD..SO STOP SOUNDING FOOLISH...PAGAN

he said there are many gods in heaven.. then Yahweh is stupid for saying he alone is God, he didnt say he alone is Almighty, He said " I alone I'm God" ....stupid pagan

Stop sounding stupi.d , Yahweh is just the Father , no one else , you are hiding under the cover of Trinity Lie that Yahweh is name of father , son


" For who in the sky is equal to Yahweh? Who is like Yahweh among the sons of God, " - psalm 89:6

Yahweh has no equal and No son of God is like Yahweh. Jesus is a son of God . that cancels your lies


Peace

zodiakzax:
... but unto us there's but One God and One Lord...my friend it is clear.. Yahweh said i alone I'm God there's none to before me or after me..


I am the Lord , and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord , and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:5‭-‬6 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/isa.45.5-6.KJV


My friend stop being stupid if you believe there are many gods and Yahweh is the greatest then you are a pagan And a polytheist.. it is clear that unto us THERES BUT ONE GOD AND ONE LORD..SO STOP SOUNDING FOOLISH...PAGAN

he said there are many gods in heaven.. then Yahweh is stupid for saying he alone is God, he didnt say he alone is Almighty, He said " I alone I'm God" ....stupid pagan

Stop sounding stupi.d , Yahweh is just the Father , no one else , you are hiding under the cover of Trinity Lie that Yahweh is name of father , son


" For who in the sky is equal to Yahweh? Who is like Yahweh among the sons of God, "

Yahweh has no equal and No son of God is like Yahweh. Jesus is a son of God.


Peace

zodiakzax:
..if Jesus is a god then He's a false god because unto us there's but One God... bibke never said unto us there's an almighty.. ... you deny the bible and call Yahweh stupid... Yahweh said i ALONE I'M GOD, THERES NO GOD BESIDE ME.... now you say there are gods beside Yahweh.. .... stupid pagan.... see how you poo on yourself... we only have ONE GOD AND ONE LORD... stupid pagan..

Stop.disgracing yourself and your colleagues... show us where the bibke says there are many many gods and Yahweh is the superior?? ... BUT UNTO US THERES BUT ONE GOD AND ONE LORD..... if Jesus was a god then why is He our One Lord? ...if I were your organisation I would have rendered John1:1 as ..... and the Word was the Lord... .... stupid illiterates

The noun " God " can mean supreme being or mean powerful one .. .. The second is what Jesus represent. That rules out the false or true god comparison. He can only be false If he claimed to be the supreme one. He never did. He even acknowledge he has a God.

johnw47:
you false jw's get it wrong every single post, there is no contradiction, just your blindness.
truly Father and the Word are two Spirit beings, truly they are two persons, duh
and they are the one spirit that is God, duh duh duh

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You are never bold to quote verse 2 of that John 1:1 because it will expose your frauds .

Okay the Word was God.

Vrs2 ' this one was in the beginning WITH GOD '

Who is this one according to vrs 1 in your translation ? The word (God)

So vrs 2 means This one ( God ) was in the beginning WITH God '

With is used for two or more.

So how many Gods do you serve since Two Gods are with each other ?

Sense is above you

Peacefullove:
I was making a point, why running away from it ?


Is birthday celebration which Xmas represent, among the pure worship of the Jews ? Hello, why does your Bible not make any reference to Jewish birthday celebration as it did Egyptians ?


Diverting as usual, you are not an expert at this.

Will that apply to Gay and Lesbianism which your bible frowns at ? Should we agree Sex before marriage is good as well ? Cos it is okay in many areas ... When you answer me ... , we will see if that can as well support xmas ( Birthday celebratio considering the way it's referenced in your Bible.


Am awaiting

following keenly to see how he answers that. For the records , that Awake article is a misquote, it discussed a tradition called Pinata., used in many occasions, so the article said what he quote just because it Also states "In fact, piñatas are used in Mexico on many festive occasions, not just for the posadas or for birthdays. And piñatas can be purchased in many forms other than the traditional star shape. They are sometimes made to resemble animals, flowers, clowns." https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102003687 . that's the link to read full article

So people use it in many occasion, graduation , marriage or all other you can think of .. Not always religious, so that is why the Awake state that point.

For Awake response to those who try to misquote like that liar just did. See this link
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/1200276790/1/0 . totally different from birthdays which the Bible reference only to pagans like you also stated.

Peace bro.

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alBHAGDADI:

Both body and soul will be cast into hell fire which will then be thrown into the lake of fire.

Revelations 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Am seriously laughing

@bold , its only valid if that happens before it emptied the dead in it , does it ?

The scripture you quoted is a misuse, It doesn't support that blunder you made up there, it has already emptied the dead in it before this happens.

Cc: peacefullove .

alBHAGDADI:
Maybe if you stop using laughter emoji, you will be able to see clearly.

How many men arrived at Sodom? You said Two. How many men showed up before Abraham? They were Three men. Scroll up and see the whole chapter quoted from your NWT which shows that two out of the three left Abraham and went to Sodom. The only one that remained with Abraham was Jehovah and had been identified as Jehovah right from when Abraham saw him and the two angels whom appeared to him like men.

Playing scroll up.

See your life

You at first saying they are not Angels, now you finally agree they are angels who appeared as men . so why do you now attacked my first post ? Ignorance , I guess

God is not a man and cannot be seen, all three men are angels . one specifically represented Jehovah like peacefullove already said. You can check the incidence at the burning Bush where though an angel appeared to Moses, he was addressed as Jehovah.

alBHAGDADI:
Why are you twisting what Paul said? Was Paul talking about the encounter Abraham had? You are being mischievous and it's wrong.

Paul was advising that we should give people hospitality, because we may never know when we will entertain angels. Is statement is in no way a claim that Abraham entertained angels . But according to you, because Paul advised we entertain people who might turn out to be angels, and because the men Abraham saw were entertained, it definitely means they were angels. That is wrong.

What you are saying in essence is that God cannot be entertained neither can he eat. You have created an impossibility for God.

Now that you understand your wrong, go back and see where I also showed you that angels aren't bowed before and called Lord.

Always read your Bible well,

Genesis 18:16 said the men get up and leave FOR SODOM

Genesis 19:1 their identity was revealed as ANGELS , it says " the two angels arrived at Sodom by evening "

But they were in form of men. Genesis 19:4,5

Grow up

alBHAGDADI:
Are you jokes?

You mean you are passing the verse in Revelations for that found on Leviticus?

Revelations 6:9-10
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

The above speaks of souls crying out and speaking, while the below talks of animal sacrifice and it's blood. Or do animal blood speak?

Leviticus 17:11 King James Version (KJV)
For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

the kingdom of Satan is divided. It is animal blood but Emusan could quote it to explain Isaiah 53:11,12 before it backfires on him. is Jesus an animal ?

And your dull brain was supporting him saying soul can mean different thing. Have u forgotten ?

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alBHAGDADI:
Are you daft? Where in the below passage is it written that the beings entertained by Abraham were all angels?


Genesis 18:1-3
And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
And said, My LORD , if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:


To show you that they were not all angels, and that one was God, read the below verse.

Revelations 22:8-9
8 And I John saw these things, and heard them . And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Can you see how the angel stopped apostle John from bowing before him? That's because angels are not to be worshipped.

But Abraham bowed before the men whom you say are angels. He even called one of them LORD. Are angels now lord as well?

If you continue reading the passage in Genesis, you will see that God was actually among them.

Forever reference on Naira land established already.

Genesis 18:8 said the men eat and drink, they were entertained.

Years later apostle Paul says concerning what happen at Genesis 18: " Do not forget hospitality, for through it some unknowingly entertained ANGELS " Hebrew 13:2

All those entertained are angels .

alBHAGDADI:
How do you expect me to respond to his post when he keeps dragging one back to old arguments already trashed on the thread? It seems he didn't read the thread from the beginning, he just jumped in at the end.
Didn't I explain that the second death is when both soul and body will be cast in hell?

Yoi are too daft . He exposed your stupidity and you still didnt see it.

You said they are in hell presently, according to Matthew 10:28 when it comes to hell, Body must be there . which means no one Is in your imaginary hell .

Jesus never said only imaginary soul go to hell. Je said soul and body. So when you replied that they are. In hell, he make you realize your wrong by pointing it out and asking that question you run away from

Brightgem:
who are u quoting? Seems ur confused! Too quick to comment. High queen, what are u high on?

I probably caused that. Am sorry!

highqueen:
and you later dashed out your number after screaming like a bulldog, reason i hate hypocrites like you.
We have seen you.
And dont even qoute, i wont go down to your level of hypocrisy.

Despite your premise was wrong you still went ahead and likened her to a bulldog , not only that , you further went to label her hypocrite. for something she never did , How would you feel if it was you that someone wrongly say all this to ?

highqueen:
Tell the guy to edit.

I have already, capturing it in quote is to prevent any situation where another person quote and take it with their comment. I can always remove it

Brightgem:
thanks. Do take ur number off NL tho. Not safe

Tanks for the advice, I will.

That's why it's in quote , so it can never be quoted .

alBHAGDADI:
Haven't you been showed that soul means different things?

If soul dies, then how come they are said to be crying for vengeance in heaven.

Revelations 6:9-10

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

Open your eyes, don't you see altar ? Its the blood that is poured under the altar- Leviticus 17:11 . that verse represent their blood .

And for the voicing out - Didn't Abel's blood speak ? In what sense ? Grow up.