₦airaland Forum

Talk is cheap, actions very expensive. I have always said it that Yorubas so-called leaders are only good at playing politics but are poor at leadership. The herdsmen crisis presently affecting the South west has only revealed just how weak our leaders are in South west Nigeria. I am not surprised Amotekun was not invited, the formation of Amotekun was never a proactive measure, it was reactive and it is a political scheme to show the people of South west Nigeria that their leaders are doing something not necessarily to safeguard South west lives and properties.

If you observe, you could see from day 1 that these incidents started to increase after RUGA was roundly rejected. These incidents are only meant to force the hands of South west leaders into giving land for RUGA. RUGA is only a means to an end for the Fulani elite, it is clearly a land grabbing ploy. It may not happen in this generation or the next but eventually it will happen as evidenced by history.

South west leadership ought to be readying up their forces and engaging these terrorists, politics be damned. But as usual, they are kicking the ball down the road. When it finally explodes, the Fulani will seize leadership structure of Yorubaland and they will have achieved their objectives. Unfortunately, these cowardly bunch of useless cretin called leaders will not be alive to witness it.

Yorubas should be pay close attention, right now we are being sold in exchange for political relevance. It is happening right now before our very own eyes. We failed to side with Biafra during the Civil war where this could have been settled because we wanted to be seen as the good ones. We are failing now to do the right thing, which is never easy but needed, because we wish to please the same powers that be. I fear that if we continue down this path, the Yoruba race will seize to exist as an independent entity in 200 years (or 3 generations) from today.

MayorofLagos:
I am here to summarize and expand knowledge on the political and cultural implications of what is reported above.

1. The gathering is the government of SW Nigeria and their functions in society is empowered by the Constitution. So whatever they discuss here cannot be anything unConstitutional.

2. This gathering is a discussion on SECURITY CHALLENGES in SW.

3. Government of SW agreed that crime has been committed against the people of SW.

4. Government of SW agreed insecurity in SW is attributable to two sources ..
(a) foreign elements that exploit loose border
(b) cattle herders that tresspas when grazing.

They stopped short of giving it ethnic tone but they specifically indicated the people are from Northern zones.

5. Government of SW proposed assistance, in cooperation with FG, to stop open grazing (nomadic herding) and settle cattle herders into ranches as well designated grazing grounds.

6. Government of SW believes the border must be controlled and security tightened to exclude unwanted elements from coming in.

7. Government of SW wants a better management of its forests and inventory of its occupants and their events.

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Theese are my views, with scoring on a grade of A to F. A is excellent, F is woeful.

Amotekun is Constitutional and was formed to secure SW. Why is Amotekun not at a gathering discussing insecurity in its jurisdictional domain?

I give our leaders an F.


They focused on insecurity in rural farmsteads and in forests and highways but neglected to include insecurity and criminality in SW urban cities involving Hausas and their frequent attacks on Yorubas in every state in SW.

I give our leaders an F.


They discussed and agreed that open grazing is a problem and must be stopped. In its place they proposed another problem, a worse one. They want to work with FG to give herders settlements and grazing zones to practice ranching. RUGA!
Miyetti allah will put pressure on FG to make sure such concessions from SW are gazzetted to remove any legal disputes in future over who owns such zones. Buhari has failed in various and multiple attempts to reclaim what he called "gazzetted grazing routes" given by colonial govt in South. We cannot find it, no record...but now SW leaders are planning to officially open grazing routes and settlements for fulani in SW. The government of SW is not listening to its people. They want Yoruba Nation free of fulani settlements.

I give our leaders an F for conceeding to miyettiallah's desires to get a govt land grant in SW.


When Buhari recently closed borders in SW our leaders had no power to open it. When Buhari declared all foreigners can come across our borders without visa our leaders had no power to stop it. They need to strategize for a counter-approach to securing SW borders instead of wasting time hopelessly discussing a issue Constitutionally outside their control. The counter-measure to insecure border is to acquire control of your border and that require a new Sovereingty, this is what the PEOPLE want.

I give our leaders an F.


Akeredolu gave an order and claimed Ondo forests are under his jurisdiction. FG rejected his claim. Miyettiallah has continuously flouted and disregarded his order and no fulani herder has been arrested for disobeying the Governor's order, for perpetrating illegality in Ondo forests. If he cannot enforce his order on Forest Management in Ondo, what is the point of him repeating in this gathering that "we all agree time is now and we manage our forests"? Has the FG shared in that agreement?

I give Akeredolu and those who agreed with him an F.


It is a shame that our government in SW will gather and discuss insecurity and finish it with concessions to the criminals laying siege on SW, yet not a single mention of the foremost priority of their PEOPLE.


I speak for myself here and say I reject leadership of these governors and these Obas. They have not spoken for me in Ibadan.

What a pity! How quickly people forget, what a shame.

So now here we are, talking Southern Presidency yet some people will say Northern leaders are weak, foolish, stupid? You people do not understand they are only putting you against one another whilst you take your eye off the real problems that affect each and every one.

Fulani terrorist herdsmen will still continue to rampage.
Terrorist bandits will still continue to pillage.
Boko Haram will still continue to persist.
In addition to the infrastructure deficit we have, the population explosion mainly from the North, lack of quality education, sky high unemployment rate, inflation and so forth.

But hey, what do I know. Afterall, God is in control of Nigeria. Oil price is over $60 now. Covid soon about to vanish and by 2023 all of this will be forgotten.

They rely on your short memories and collective stupidity and you never seem to disappoint. Nigerians truly deserve the type of leadership that it is has, no question about that.

I guess few is another word meaning many.

Monogamy:
Their prayers should be directed to Killer Fulani herdsmen not the whole herdsmen cos the killer among them are few

Bro, I understand why you will say ALL Northern leaders are mentally weak but in reality are they really? In my view, calling them weak is equal to underestimating them, there is a method to their madness, they are not weak.

These guys play our Southern leaders like fiddles and they often play the long game. They are favoured by the British and the USA because they are useful in continuing Project Nigeria. Whenever they are not in power, they scream wolf, when they are in power they do whatever the fcu_k they want. And they support themselves regardless of political affiliation.

That does not come across to me as weak, they clearly understand what Nigeria is and what Nigeria is not. This is something our useful idiot of leaders in the South west are having a hard time processing. And this is why the Senate President can come out with such a statement.

And as I recall, you are somewhat in support of Tinubu for President. May I remind you sir, that this man, Senate President Lawan, is one of Tinubu's key allies and look at what is coming from him. We Yorubas have never learnt from history and it is clear history will repeat itself to our detriment.

LegendHero:
SW governors will reply soon.

I trust Akeredolu.

Now I believe A̳L̳L̳ these Northern leaders are mentally weak and no matter how learned they are, they still reason like yabaleft patients.

I guess you meant Assessment.

Well, for obvious reasons. At one point, the Yorubas did have a leader whose name was Chief Obafemi Awolowo. As imperfect as he was, he understood what it took to be a leader, he was a true visionary and was ahead of his time. He made his fair share of mistakes, but the man was a leader the Yorubas desperately needed then and still need till this day.

What we have had since then have been mere charlatans and pretenders whether it was Obasanjo, Abiola or now recently Tinubu. Atleast, Obasanjo never pretended he was a leader for Yorubas so we can omit him. Abiola, I reckon would have been a disaster especially for Yorubas. And Tinubu is mostly a by-product of Abiola's style of politics.

My problem with Tinubu is his lack of consistency any issue that matters. His only consistency has been and continues to be everything that puts him firmly in power. And what has he done with power on a state and maybe regional level, nothing for the average Yoruba, but alot for his cronies.

I do not know how he started with Awolowo and ended up with the likes of Tinubu but it is sad that the gatekeepers such as Pa Ayo Adebanjo and co should have foreseen this.

SoulMus:
And why isn't he qualified according to your opinion and accessment on his track record

History has proven that if and when people are confronted with an existential threat and manage to survive, they are usually stronger.

The problem is my people are not resolute as has been proven by these recent attacks from these

I believe beyond these recent events, the resolve of the Yoruba will be strengthened and we will he stronger. When I say Yoruba, I do not refer to politicians nor persons who have sold out themselves a long time ago, I refer to the average Yoruba man in Southwest Nigeria.

SpecialAdviser:
Many atrocities have been committed by these herdsmen and seems under reported.

Imagine raping women as old as 70 years with impunity. Killing and maiming people at will.

But on a more serious note, Yorubas really need to learn to be resolute in dealing with this kind of treath. Everything cannot just be politics.

I cant imagine someone raping my mother or someone close to me. And knowing fully well their location. My brother, I will go all out to avenge her death. Except am not aware of their location. I will just use 6 months to plan my revenge. I strongly doubt if Fulanis can consistently perpetrate these attrocities any where in South East. Not at all. Jokes apart

I agree Mr Tinubu is a masterful politician and tactician. However, Mr Tinubu is not the leader this country needs nor is he the leader Yorubas need at this time.

We often confuse the two to mean the same thing but they are quite different. That you are a great politician does not make you a great leader and vice versa.

SoulMus:




No wonder Pa Adebanjo of Afenifere never held an elective position in his life

He doesn't understand Politics like the likes of Tinubu and Obasanjo

Chief Obafemi Awolowo made a mistake showing his cards all at once to the North and they played a fast one on him

Tinubu on the other hand is very silent, nobody knows his game plan both North and South are skeptical, he rolls with North and South equally


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For those trying to politicized the issue at hand, especially some of my brothers from the SE and SS, i guess we all can see that there are Fulani overlords in both parties: APC and PDP. One party is not better than the other and politicians will always be politicians. Politicians will always do what is best for their political advancement.

This Fulani Herdsmen crisis is not one that should be politicized or tribalized. The enemy is at the gate, all of Southern Nigeria must be united in our resolve to not only repel these evil terrorists but to destroy them permanently. We cannot rely on politicians, we must rely on ourselves. Politicians from every part of the country have failed and continue to fail us.

BraggaJ:
The way Makinde kiss Fulani ass nawadays eh, I don't understand. Maybe he has one of them as a girlfriend. He is so afraid to offend them that, since he signed the anti open-grazing law in his state two years ago, not a single cow has been arrested for violating it. That's why herdsmen are roaming about the state and creating problems. I just don't understand.

Dangote is a full hausa man.

I know it is hard for most southerners to tell the difference, I did not know I difference myself until a friend corrected me.

I do not support Dangote mostly per his business practices but he is a Hausa man not a Fulani. Anyway, I get the original point you were trying to make. If war were to break out, I don't think anyone would wait to be told the difference between Hausa and Fulani.

Rugaria:
Today he's Hausa, tomorrow he's fulani..
Dude is fulani..
Leave matter..

Look in reality, any security body formed by government will only be used to play politics.

I feel like the people themselves need to come together and launch regional security outfits that will coordinate on a high level with each other (within the south) to flush out these bandits terrorists.

If we continue to wait for government, everything will get politicized, nothing will happen and people will continue to lose their means of livelihood whilst being told to remain tolerant because clearly people do not want to step on toes for sake of political ambition.

I reckon that if we continue down this line, worse things will happen to Southern Nigeria all in the name of tolerance, one Nigeria and all the useless superlatives you can think of.

Racoon:
If not a war of subjugation and domination, what have the ESN or Amotekun done to deserve the wagging of war to overthrow these regional bodies given what northern governors are doing with these fully armed terrorists today? What the hell is wrong with this country.

Hahahahahahahaha, I laugh.

Governor BalaBala Mohammed, keep running your mouth anyhow. Proof that you Fulanis are upto no good.

Dangote is Hausa not Fulani.
There's a difference.

Rugaria:
Dangotes oil refinery in Lagos is bigger than all Yoruba investments in the core North..

You know what makes this whole thing laughable, Gumi seems to have these bandits on speed dial. It seems he knows where to find them even though our very effective Federal government can not. Quite interesting.

CodeTemplar:
If they can be dealt with later, why not now? Deception detected!.

rather than bring the aggressors to book so as to prevent a recurrence.

we love kicking the ball further down the road, until it turns into a situation money cannot solve.

Spoken like a true ReTrumplican.

To be honest, any leader that is willing to pay the cost both politically and probably mortally, can restructure Nigeria.

I believe Obasanjo had two opportunities, in 1979 (not directly but he could have allowed for a free and fair election which he clearly did not) and between 1999 and 2007. He had the clout, He had the power, He sure as hell had the authority to do it but he chose to prioritise making himself a lifetime king. A wasted opportunity I must say.

Now we both know based on his antecedents, Tinubu can never restructure Nigeria. If he does ascend to the Presidency, he will have made too many deals and I know he will want to keep most if not all of them in a bid to assure him a second term. These deals will never be to the benefit of the average Nigerian talk less of the average Yoruba people. Will Tinubu be better than Buhari? At this stage, a tree will be better than Buhari. But will Nigeria's problems persist, you bet they will and may even take a different turn for the worse (who knows what tomorrow holds really).

Only by restructuring (and I even think as days turn into months and months into years, restructuring is becoming less and less of an option, splitting is becoming the only practical solution) can we all have a chance of determining our futures. I think this is an unbiased view and I believe you will agree.

LegendHero:
Let me ask you a question bro.

Who do you think can restructure Nigeria?

I have a reason for asking.

This is one way to put it, I can't fault your logic.

Lagoon0:
Lets even speak the truth. It was never tinubu vs atiku

The election was between two fulanis atiku vs buhari

Both yorubas took side shamelessly . and now one is talking about restructuring the other one is planning on becoming president.

Tinubu is the latest betrayal of Yoruba race.

Well, if you are a Tinubu supporter then ofcourse anyone and everyone who opposes your view is cast as bitter and inconsistent.

But Tinubu will not change anything about Nigeria or anything for the Yoruba people. He is no messianic figure at the horizon, it will be same of same failed leadership (with just a lot of packaging together with so-called intellects/technocrats/professionals who will do nothing more than to convert Nigeria to what we see in Lagos) that we have been used to.

Goke7:
He is not consistent, he's only bitter

Bro, please stick to the script.

This is not Tinubu vs Atiku, this is not APC vs PDP, this is about Tinubu and restructuring. We know Tinubu will never restructure Nigeria if he becomes president. Pa Adebanjo has earned the right to support whomever he chooses to just as Mr Tinubu has the right to run for Presidency. You forget that Tinubu single-handed drove the wedge that now exists within the Afenifere, not saying they were all saints but Tinubu tore apart that Yoruba ideological group purely out of spite.

Regardless of Pa Adebanjo's politics, he is right on the money when it comes to Tinubu and restructuring. He may not always be right, he has supported and may have even collected money from PDP. If there is one thing I respect Pa Adebanjo for, it is his consistency on the issue of restructuring.

LegendHero:
Baba Adebanjo e jebure awo olugbebe.

Could you please tell us who will restructure Nigeria that we should vote for?

Let’s all queue behind Atiku then since you supported him in 2019, maybe he will restructure Nigeria in 2023 if he becomes the president.

To the contrary, Yorubas don't love one Nigeria, Yorubas actually don't love anything. For the most part, the average Yoruba man just wants to be left alone. You are confusing some paid individuals you encounter on social media and their political sponsors with the entirety of Yoruba people and this is a gross misrepresentation. I agree that Igbos may be more vocal and more aggressive in their approach but it does not mean Yorubas who are quiet are for one Nigeria. Everyone knows the country is not working, Everyone knows the only solution is to split the useless country. Eventually everyone will be on the same page, you will see.

The only group that loves one Nigeria are the elite of each and every tribe which is why you will scarcely see any so-called political leader from any tribe in Nigeria openly call for a split. Those who do so usually are not in power, when they assume power they tend to look the other way. And we have seen this play out time and time and time again from ALL tribes within Nigeria.

awgumayor:
People get at you through what you love most. Yoruba loves one Nigeria as if their life depends on it, and Fulani knows that they will accept any shit given to them as long as one Nigeria is preserved but, the Igbos don't give a Bleep whether Nigeria is one or not and can't accept any shit from anybody. And whatever happens to Nigeria Fulani will be the biggest loser.

Congratulations to all of them and their families. This means nothing to the ordinary Nigerians and these Nigerian people who head these international agencies most certainly have dual citizenship and do not owe any form of allegiance to Nigeria and/or it's people.

Do not get me wrong, it is inspirational as it shows you can be anything you set your sights upon however these appointments will not necessarily translate into better living standards for the average Nigerian and that is what we must primarily concern ourselves with.

It is possible some of the Fulani elite are orchestrating these attacks to frustrate the ambition of Mr Tinubu. But it is also possible that these events are simply what they are and are in no way political.

We must try as much as possible to not see anything and everything through the lens of politics else we become exactly like Messrs Tinubu and co who believe anything bad that happens to them is as a result of their enemies not as q consequence of their obvious incompetence and serious lack of leadership.

As a Yoruba man, I have never regarded Mr Tinubu as a leader of the Yoruba people. As much as we live in strange times, I for one can ascertain what a true leader is and is not. It is not to say he has not been an effective politician in these times but it has been to the detriment of his constituency. I believe we as Yorubas can do better than Tinubu, and I hope Yorubas will not fall into the trap of we versus them into voting enmasse for him. He has sold out and he will continue to do so if elected to higher office, in a bid to please all those who brought him to power as witnessed with his over 20 year rule of Lagos state.

As always, the only real solution to the problems we have is splitting Nigeria. The Igbo is not the same as the Yoruba nor is the Yoruba same as the Northern folk. We must first split for each of us to have any hope at achieving something.

LegendHero:
100% true.

Probably that’s the reason why Tinubu kept quiet.

It’s politics. Tinubu should instead offer support to the Amotekuns, Igboho, and other groups underground instead of coming to the media to speak out and fall into the political land mines they laid for him.

Even without him taking, all sides are blaming him, so why should he talk, since his talk won’t make the dead Buhari deploy soldiers to take the killer Fulani herdsmen and he’s not the commander in chief.

He is an Uncle Tom that has been programmed by FoxNews and NewsMax.

bleeping idiot does not even know that whites actually have higher violent crime rates than blacks in the US.

But thanks to white supremacy, whites often get off the hook or get lighter sentences for same crime compared to blacks. Whites are not stereotyped by police the way blacks are and so many other factors I'd rather not go into.

Wolfeye:
You are a bonafide re.tard. Just listen to yourself. A phool.
Most poor blacks that form the premise of this your retarded argument do not have a choice.
They can’t work, before your 15th birthday you must’ve been to juvie twice for something or nothing you know about. By 18 you already have either a traffic ticket or a criminal record which already place you in the system. Guess what happens when you apply for a job and they check your name for a criminal record? Even for something as retarded as jaywalking.
It’s coons like you that watch news and start peddling rubbish. There is a systematic oppression of blacks.
What you have just said is like saying if you give every Fulani man a weapon they will go around killing people just because herdsmen do..you are a compound phool without a brain.

Don’t support na. Die like the useless mammal you are. You’d rather beg for your life than fight the enemy. Oponu. If everybody has a weapon why will anybody try to rape or rob? Do you think robbers are stupid? Have you ever heard about robbery in a military or police barracks?
Do you think it’s the uniform that is preventing robbers from going there?
People do bad things when they assume they can escape the consequences.
When you are sure your victim is armed, you won’t do shit because bullet no get respect for anybody.

If everyone is armed, there will surely be peace.
Please throw your premise out the window abeg, it does not hold water.

thebosstrevor1:
I do not agree, most black people can not control themselves when they have weapon with them.

Give a blackman a gun and he will use it to rob, plunder and rape.

As much as Miyetti Allah and myself have never really agreed on anything, I can firmly state that they are right with this assertion of theirs.

Let everyone arm themselves and then let's test and see if some ethnic group are really as powerful as they claim they are.

Don't mind the "One Nigeria Idiots" who have claimed that Nigerians cannot and should not be allowed to own guns. But fulani herdsmen walk around in the open with weapons.

Buhari's government in 2015 ordered the IGP to withdraw all licences from gun owners and stop issuing new licences. They knew where they were going with all of this, we are now see things unfold.

lanchy:
Private security firms should be able to bear arms as long as they are registered!!

I keep seeing children speaking for adults, who say "We are not ready for gun ownership", speak for yourself only. Responsible citizens with training on how to use arms and have no mental health challenges should be granted the ability to bear arms up to and including semi-automatic weapons!!

Any private security outfit with experienced trained personnel will become very sort after, if allowed! I for one will pay for 4 armed personnel anytime I am forced, repeat forced to visit Nigeria.

Are you aware that Musa's Senior Brother Shehu, together with Buhari, established MACBAN.

There are no nice or good fulani period

They use their charm offensive to lure people into relaxing and they are very patient. Whilst you are not watching, then they strike. This is exactly what is happening in South west Nigeria today.

We, the Yorubas have often held this misguided believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that fulani are a peaceful and a good people, that they mean no harm. I guess we are seeing today what the history books have confirmed all along. And because the so-called powers that be have struck political alliances with these devious fulanis, it will be very difficult to entangle us from this situation.

Which is why I have always said that Yorubas cannot afford to look to any traditional, religious or political leader. Yorubas must look to themselves, arm themselves and be prepared to lay down their life to protect their lands and properties. Otherwise, more of the events unfolding will continue to occur.

Kriss216:
If you must dine with the devil, carry long spoon.

Late Musa Yaradua is the nicest and only sensible Fulani man in history. There's no good Fulani man in Southern Nigeria.

Always be careful when you're around any Fulani man, to kill is like a game to them. Protect yourself!

a.k.a I will not allow any ethnic group lay claim to their lives and property against my ethnic group, the fulanis.

Until the average Nigerian realises that the Nigerian Government (and its agencies) do not exist to make life better/easier for Nigerians, these sort of incidents will continue to happen.

The only solution to what is on ground, is for people to arm themselves and be ready to fight for what is theirs. Watch out for bastards who will come out and say let us wait for the outcome of the inquiry panel. Those same bastards are the ones shouting "One Nigeria" and they will be the same bastards that will come out next year to campaign for the useless politicians responsible for all we witness.

Rather than government formulate a policy to tax marijuana like other sensible countries are doing, they are busy spending more time enforce anti-marijuana laws whilst borrowing people's pension and unclaimed money in dormant accounts.

Similar to how they just banned crypto, by the time they wake up, everyone else would be light years ahead.

Is the Sheikh now the defacto spokesperson for these bandits?