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My statement was only meant as a joke you know.

mohims:
I pray for you to receive sense. Pastor Chris na scam

Bros watch it oh, there are curses for this statement oh.

lathrowinger:
See this sule, and what about people who lied against God. Flexing our tithing, living lavida local...
My fellow nairalander, Google and check the list of reachest pastors in the world
My Naija pastors occupied 1 to 20...
Jerusalem pastors sef dey learn work
God is watching indeed

In most of these stories about herdsmen in Oyo state, one pattern is and continues to be clear, Fulani Herdsmen enjoy some level of support from within these affected communities in Oyo State.

Sincerely, I believe the herdsmen's claim of being invited by some traditional rulers. I have not checked but I am more than willing to bet that said traditional rulers are of same religious persuasion as the herdsmen. Perhaps some through marriage now share a common ethnicity with herdsmen. It is scary to think that some muslims within the Yoruba community actually support these herdsmen and are sympathetic toward their cause.

I can understand honest and well meaning herdsmen who simply want no violence but want to provide their cattle some grazing area. But how does one distinguish between the good and the bad especially in these times. Those people who continually invite these herdsmen are dangerous and ought to be dealt with severely. This matter ought to be taken seriously, chasing them away is a good thing but I am certain they'll be back.

I think all of what I have long feared has now come to past regarding the imminent destruction that awaits my people, Yoruba ethnic group at the hands of the Hausa-Fulani.

From the write-up, one pattern stands crystal clear, the Hausa-Fulani herdsmen who unleash these violent acts enjoy some support in these affected communities. It is also clear that these communities are predominantly Muslim communities and they are not well exposed.

From my personal research I have discovered that my Yoruba brothers who happen to be Muslim and dwell in these enclaves are very sympathetic to the cause of the Hausa-Fulani Herdsmen. Afterall, since both are connected by religion and Islam was introduced to Yoruba land via the North, they believe they and these herdsmen share a common brotherhood.

I am yet to meet a Muslim brother (trained thoroughly in-line with the accordance of Islam and that takes it seriously) of Yoruba extraction that did not wish to identify more with the Hausa-Fulani and less with his fellow Yoruba heritage. Some are only Yoruba in name and know nothing of the history of their land which is why they are clearly repeating same mistakes of the past, or maybe it is a part of a grand scheme? They want to go up north, learn the language and trade with the Hausa more than build closer ties with their christian brethren. I cannot tell you that the Yoruba Christians are any better but atleast there are no records of them willingly selling out their land to an obvious invader tribe.

If anything leads to the downfall of my tribe, it is this right here. I know there are well meaning and reasonable Yoruba Muslims, unfortunately they are not mostly resident in these hinterland parts. And as for our leaders, they are pre-occupied with playing politics whilst their lands fall into the hands of the Hausa-Fulani. To my Yoruba Muslim brothers, there still is a way for you to be Pro-Yoruba and Pro-Islam and it does not involve selling out.

We must all remember if we sell ourselves to invaders, we will have nothing left and our children will become slaves in our own land. It has happened before many times in history and if care is not taken, it will happen again. This is a warning, let he who has ears hear!

There are terrorists who are not muslims as well.

White supremacist hate groups who take to violence in the USA and Eastern Europe are terrorists too.

ggood:
God bless you sir don't mind all this terrorist politicians in the North , moreover they all support Boko Haram , Last week I watched a video on YouTube how they supply Boko Haram guns and electronics , who transport the ammunition's without being caught.


Although all Muslims are not terrorist but all terrorist are Muslims

Just seeing your post, thanks bro I will surely read the book you recommend.

Please keep the flag flying, we need more people like you at the forefront.

JoeEeL:
My brother uve gotten it. Can't you see that many of us (Yorubas in context) don't even know who we are anymore as a people. We don't even know our value. Beaten down and trodden, we have forgotten our value. The Fulanis have actually tried to dominate down to Lagos coast before. Wanting to Islamise us with their own version of Islam and then install their Emirs, just like how Ilorin - a former Oyo kingdom military outpost - fell to them.

There was a particular Yoruba warrior responsible for pushing and resisting the Fulani armies then, Ive forgotten his name. But I think its Balogun Aderinlo. If you also have time, you can google this free PDF "'Art' of War: Analysis of Weapons of the 19th Century Yoruba"... You'll learn a lot

And I guess on the planet where you come from, only one view is acceptable, yours. You really are no different from a Trump supporter and it is clear you did not read my post, you only skimmed through it.

There is no point having a discussion with someone such as yourself. You know what you know and believe everyone else's view is irrelevant.

codemaniacs:
Because a yoruba person will protect and support the interests of yoruba people.

Your views did not show any signs of support and protection of yoruba people.

Because I do not agree with your view, I am not a Yoruba person.

Thank you very much, good day!

codemaniacs:
you are definitely not a yoruba person...

Awolowo could have never remained neutral, zik was contesting for premier of the western region and if zik was successful it means zik would have replaced all Yorubas in important positions in western region controlled institutions with igbos...

you say "Look sir, Igbo leaders were anti-yoruba, Yoruba leaders were anti-igbo and Hausa-Fulani leaders were anti-everyone else" but it was only the igbos who were challenging indigenes in other regions by contesting for government positions in other regions..

Awolowo never had a change of heart and never made any agreement with the igbos ( only igbos believe such fake news/history ).. awolowo was in prison.

it was the igbos that created the mid-west region in order to weaken the Yoruba region which the mid-west was part of...

stop claiming to be yoruba because no yoruba person will still say "On the contrary, I believe Awolowo could have chosen to stay neutral. " after been told that millions of Yorubas will have been killed and their jobs taken away from them..

On the contrary, I believe Awolowo could have chosen to stay neutral. Neutral means Neutral not meeting with Ojukwu one day advising him not to go to war despite his people being slaughtered like flies and taking up a cabinet position within Gowon's government the next day.

Look sir, Igbo leaders were anti-yoruba, Yoruba leaders were anti-igbo and Hausa-Fulani leaders were anti-everyone else. We were all anti-each other, our leaders knew this pre-independence yet somehow they sought to force us to live together for their own selfish ends.

I am a Yoruba nationalist and I honestly believe if the Yorubas were allowed to be as a separate entity, we would be further along and much better off than we are within this geographical entity called Nigeria. As much as I understand Awo's rationale during the Civil war, his greatest failing as a leader (and I say this respectfully knowing no one is perfect and we all have our weaknesses) was his change of heart.

Pre-independence, Awo was on record as advocating for a separation of the Oduduwa Republic. To have states built around ethnic groups and so forth. He did not believe in the Federalist structure. That is the Awo I love, not this Awo that left Calabar prisons and started supporting One Nigeria. He knew there was never One Nigeria to begin with but his political ambitions drove him in that direction and the rest is history as we know it.

Hausa-Fulani have no business with the Yorubas, the Yorubas have no business with the Igbos and the Igbos have no business with the Ijaws. We were never ever fully allowed to determine who or what we wanted to be, at every turn we have had the quest for our independence truncated by evil men in high places and the result is this One Nigeria Frankenstein monster we now see. Until we go our separate ways, these problems will continue to persist. I thank Buhari for reminding us of what we really are.

codemaniacs:
there is no way Awolowo would have "sided or atleast was neutral during the Civil war" because the zik and other igbo leaders were very anti Yoruba, when the igbos controlled the central govt they removed indigenes from federal positions in federal institutions in those states and replaced them with igbos and this led to the video released by a northern leader saying he would prefer to hire a foreigner and than hire an igbo person even Akintola released an audio on radio that igbos were taken positions that should go to the Yorubas in the Yoruba region...

if the igbos want to be pro-igbo they can be in their own region...

if the civil war was successful, it means
1. the attack on Ore by the Igbos led by a Yoruba person will have been successful which means millions of Yorubas would have been killed as Igbos attacks progress through states in the western region.

2. the whole Nigeria would have been under Igbo domination and it would have led to more civil wars because igbos will have to attack and conquer each region which means killing millions of non-igbo people and replacing their leaders with igbos...

3. it would have led to massive hatred for igbos by people from other regions...
e.t.c..

If you people recall, shortly as Buhari assumed power, he instructed the Nigeria Police Force to stop issuing gun permits and to retrieve all existing gun permits.

Till this day, no one understands the rationale behind this move, legal gun owners never posed an existential threat to anyone in the country. Mazi Nnamdi Kanu and a handful of others said there were sinister motives behind this move, no one paid any mind, it was promptly dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

As much as I do not agree with alot of Mr Kanu's messages, I think he got it right in this regard. Fulani herdsmen have accelerated their attacks on farmer communities across the country and they have operated with wanton recklessness and freehand. And the message from Aso Rock has been...

Given our history of mistrust, I have long advocated for legal gun ownership. All the right mental and background checks should be carried out and people should have a right to small fire arms for their own protection. It is clear all of our security apparatus have failed woefully at securing lives of the average nigerian and it will not get better anytime soon sorry.

Verge ke, Nigeria is failed state already!

No need to sugar coat the obvious.

Buhari is a Fulani leader and his job is to fight for all fulani herdsmen interest!

Ayed44:
Awo was a Yoruba leader and his job was to fight for Yoruba interest. whereas obj is a national leader and his job is to fight for the interests of all Nigerians.

This is savage!

T9ksy:
....and there are those, like your good self sir, who believed if they can't rule in yoruba's heaven would rather rule in nigerian's hell as you did both as a military head of state and a civillian president under, of course the tutelage of your fulani organ master.

Unless you can convince us with empirical evidences that both times you presided over the affairs of nigeria was progressives to yorubaland, using standard gauge-Awo's legacy. In that case, i will have no other option than to say that you are indeed, "nigerian first and yoruba second".

Brother, God bless you for your insightful comments.

I always tell people to read about their history, they will understand alot about their present and possibly their future. It is sad that we live in an era of self-denial where we used religion to blind our sight and given ourselves a new identity, whereas the who we truly are, still exists under this new found garment.

Until we understand our who we are, as in who we truly are, we will continue to run round in circles.

JoeEeL:
When you fight a pig, you yourself becomes dirty. The pig will even likely beat you in the sticky mud.

To add a bit of wisdom, demand a separation of a people you were never part of.

Before the Brits came in the 1800's, we've always had our own history. We keep living life as if the Yoruba race just came into existence this past century. Many of us don't know who we are nor our antecedence, that's why we are quite myopic.

I am not a supporter of Makinde nor do I come from Oyo state but please what has Auxilliary got to do with the original write-up. Is Auxilliary causing the violence as described in Oyo state? If yes, can you narrate citing examples as was done by the original poster of the write-up? If no, can you please just shut up.

Every politician in Nigeria uses thugs to advance their purpose, Makinde will not be the first. I condemn this heavily however if you do not like the man you can criticise him but not on this particular post. Do not get me wrong, I do not care for Auxiliary or his kind, but I am struggling to see the link between Auxiliary and the chaos in and around Oyo state.

The post is talking about insecurity in general in Oyo state and how the governor can act to prevent worse things from happening.

Unik3030:
This is what
happens when a thug in person of auxiliary is rulling because he helped d governor protect his votes.

Isn't it annoying when a thug can use siren anywhere he goes n the governor self no dey use siren.As in that's d only thing that makes me hates this yeye Seyi makinde

100% correct.

As much as I don't want to subscribe to conspiracies, that move sure looked like a conspiracy in my opinion.

IMAliyu:
I remember this clearly.

I wonder what the government was thinking then.
You don't make your citizens safer by disarming them, especially when the bad guys are still clearly fully armed.

This was not publicized however I remember how Buhari just when he assumed power in 2015, ordered the then Inspector General of Police to stop issuing licences to registered gun owners and to withdraw the already issued licences from its users.

Now I am not one for conspiracy theories but why would the government issue such an order? Gun licences were mostly issued for single or double barrel guns which were claimed to be used for hunting purposes. Giventhe chaos we now see in the country regarding insecurity, I believe the government should allow people own weapons for their personal protection. Ofcourse not everyone should be allowed to own weapons, you must pass a background check and psychological evaluation but I believe it is the right thing to do. I am confident it will make kidnappers, killer herdsmen and bandits think twice before they attack whomever. Before you jump on this post to attack it, remember, if the government were to allow this, not everyone can afford a gun, good guns are expensive.

Desperate times call for desperate measures!

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Tinubu is trying so hard to outdo Femi Adeshine, Garba Shehu and Lai Mohammed.

I wonder why he has to lick PMB's boots at every opportunity he gets.

No rifts, only quarrels due to money not shared evenly and control of the party structure.

Will you shut the hell up.

Okay, so how do you intend to spin this?
Who kidnapped those boys? Or were they not kidnapped?

Thank goodness this happened in the North because if it happened elsewhere people like you will come here to dilute the story and tell us it never happened. Or that the boys stole cows hence the herdsmen took revenge by kidnapping them.

Nigeria is in a state of full-blown crisis, this is not hearsay, this is the truth. If we do not tell ourselves the truth now, if we keep playing politics with everything, things will only get worse.

Arrewa:
Lies!

The media is truly in war with the Fulani Nation!

There's no doubt about that...

This fake news was refuted by Saleh, Masari's Aid but it still find it way to nairaland front page.

Sahara reporters are not just only at war with buhari's government but with his tribe as well.

Imagine associating criminald kidnapping on behalf of the government to a social cultural group.

Must you see tribe in everything.

You are part of what is wrong with Nigeria.

Dpharisee:
I tell my people who are the biggest contributors to Oyedepo's Living Faith and Adeboye's Redeem to rather patronize Odumeje, Mbaka, Okunerere etc. These preachers can use the offerings to build universities like Covenant or Landmark etc in the East and create more jobs for their people.
Please don't join to castigate and bring down your own, even though I don't believe in what Odumeje does or his style but this is our own, Aku ruo Uno
How many times do you see Yorubas castigating that illiterate Prof Akintola of MURIC for his Islamic extremism? But here you find the Mods goading us towards loathing our own, it will not be allowed.

Must you see tribe in everything.

Countless YoYou are part of what is wrong with Nigeria.

Dpharisee:
I tell my people who are the biggest contributors to Oyedepo's Living Faith and Adeboye's Redeem to rather patronize Odumeje, Mbaka, Okunerere etc. These preachers can use the offerings to build universities like Covenant or Landmark etc in the East and create more jobs for their people.
Please don't join to castigate and bring down your own, even though I don't believe in what Odumeje does or his style but this is our own, Aku ruo Uno
How many times do you see Yorubas castigating that illiterate Prof Akintola of MURIC for his Islamic extremism? But here you find the Mods goading us towards loathing our own, it will not be allowed.

Fool!

It is obvious you know next to nothing about music.

Fela was a pioneer, a composer and an originalist. He created the tune, influenced the music and paved the way for Lagbaja and the likes. He could play a number of instruments though he mastered and much preferred the Saxophone.

Do you listen to classical Jazz? Do you know who/what influenced Fela's tune? What you term as rhythmless beats have an actual rhythm. If you understand Jazz music, I don't mean the watered down 80s stuff which is typically what Lagbaja plays, I am talking the real stuff, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Louis Armstrong, then you won't have a hard time understanding Fela's music.

This is not to take away anything from Lagbaja. Lagbaja is quite talented in a way that only he can do what he does. He is a true artiste but there is no basis for comparison. Fela is a legend, an icon, a hero, a prophet, a freedom fighter and in a lot of ways a role model. Fela's music still is relevant to this day and age and I can confidently tell you it will be relevant for decades to come. That man was and still is in a world of his own.

Do not ever compare Fela to Lagbaja, even Lagbaja would never compare himself to Fela.

End of story!

NewDelhi:
I'll give it to lagbaja. His music are more captivating, better beats and rhymes to put you in a dance mood. Even if you no dance you go dey shake head.

Give fela 10 mins to sing a song, he will use the first 5 mins for rythymless beats, 2 mins for lyrics wey no get meaning and the last 3 mins for another round of rhythmeless beats.

Lagbaja was way better in my opinion.

None of the schoolboys are dead

But they remain abducted.

If it were cows abducted, I am more than certain Mr Masari's kinsmen would be on the rampage: killing, shooting, pillaging. But the schoolboys are not cows, they are human beings.

I guess it is true what they say that the Hausa-Fulani do value cows over human lives.

I laugh bro, l laugh.

leokid866:
lol.....you should drop, the hate.....not everyone is a minion some have actually benefited from the policies and structure put in place in Lagos.....drop the hate and pick up a book....
you just might develop too.

Clap for yourself.
Tinubu needs people like you, perhaps you are one of minions coming here to spew little nonsense such as this.

leokid866:
Because you live somewhere doesn't necessarily mean you are keyed into its inner workings......and who told you Tinubu doesn't want restructuring......this is someone who stood against obj through out his second term and came out on top so what are you talking about.....if not him them who? cause I know it definitely ain't you....

I agree with you up until where you added lies.

The crisis in Southern Kaduna did not start today and it started between the Muslim Hausa-Fulani Northern Kaduna and the Christian various other tribes Southern Kaduna. This crisis has always had a religious undertone but it also involves land grabbing and claiming. This crisis clearly did not start with foreign herdsmen and southern Kaduna people, but it is possible that overtime Foreign herdsmen have found their way to Southern Kaduna as they have all over Nigeria.

However, the question to be asked is, why are we seeing a huge influx of foreign herdsmen into Nigeria over the last 5 years. Please spare me the talk of global warming, the globe has been warming and it did not start 5 years ago. The only valid explanation is the conservative Northern Hausa-Fulani elite, of which Buhari is one, have actively encouraged movement of these foreign herdsmen into the country and southward. It may be a solidarity call, but I sense a more sinister motive. It is all about causing chaos, infiltrating christian and southern nigeria communities all in a bid to fulfilling the prophecy of your grand patron, Uthman Dan Fadio. We all could have coexisted as one, there is enough to go around but at this very moment in time it is rather too late for Nigeria.

There have been and still are good progressive minds in the north who believe in education and hardwork but they were never allowed to be at the helm from the time of Aminu Kano till Sanusi Lamido. The average northerner of today it seems prefers the likes of Buhari and Ango Abdullahi. Well, keep pushing, soon enough you will understand that no one tribe has a monopoly over violence.

Arrewa:
Yes...

Foreign herdsmen are not under the leadership of miyetti Allah...

Miyetti Allah only have the capacity to control Nigerian herders.

Foreign herdsmen operate under an African Empire.

The crisis in southern kaduna is between foreign bororo herdsmen and southern kaduna people.

When Elrufai said that he paid some foreign herdsmen to stop killings in south Kaduna...some bunch of brainless animals were busy abusing him.

Instead of to critically think and ask questions.

They claim that hundreds of their cows were killed on their way passing through Southern kaduna axis that the people must pay either with cash or their blood.


Elrufai had to negotiate with them and pay them for their cows to stop them from launching the offensive attack on Southern kaduna.

The foreign herdsmen have central leadership and are united all over Africa.


Miyetti Allah have no power over them... Miyetti Allah can only approach the central leadership.

Same foreign herdsmen are the ones killing in Benue and Plateau.

But I think they've been settled...

The Government paid for all their cows that were killed.

The problem is that when foreign herdsmen strike... The locals attack local herdsmen.

And when they attack local Herdsman another circle of attack continues.

You no serious I swear.

Well that is one way to look at it.

However, anyone who lives in Lagos as I do, clearly knows this is not the case. We do not want the emperor whom we have had in the last 21 years rule Nigeria.

Nigeria needs restructuring. I do not say it as part of the bandwagon, I have always said it here and on other platforms. This is the only real first step towards solving our problems. Anything short of this, is a sham.

leokid866:
He is also a progressive politician who showed the ability of a state to be self sufficient without FG input....his policies and road map for the development of Lagos is part of the reason the entire country can't get enough.....

Exactly my brother.

The more reason why we all need to support restructuring and not stop until Nigeria is restructured.

Otherwise, there will be many more who will be worse than Tinubu and Buhari.

bigfish3k:
His turn to devour and ravage Nigerians like the PMB he gave us

I am not a supporter of Tinubu.

I am only saying that in the mind of Tinubu and his useless supporters, they believe it is his time.

You can never see them talk concrete stuff, policies, manifesto. If you ask them why he should be President, they will tell you things like "it is his turn".

nzeobi:
. Please how is it his turn. Explain more please.