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They shouldn't pray in Christian ways or sing Christian songs in my opinion and I am unaware that this is the case in Public Schools. But like i said earlier, why don't the parents address that specifically? Why aren't you addressing that specifically? That they pray in Christian ways in a clearly multi religious school is wrong but that doesn't make protests (And shutting down the school) over Hijab use right. Infact what you raised about them singing in christian ways is more of an issue than wearing hijab. In my view, a school should NOT a place for religious warfare or superiority, leave that to places of worship or home. The primary purpose of a school is to impart knowledge. Also it's a different thing if Muslim parents decide to lobby the school administrators to change the laid down rules to allow for use of Hijab. But protesting and shutting the school down because of Hijab wearing in this modern day and age, you have got to be kidding me. That is downright ridiculous and it clearly shows what we choose to prioritise. This is why I stand on my initial assertion that there is an agenda being pushed by the people spearheading this. It is not as serious as it is being made to seem and there are some other forces at work here, you may choose to disagree.

ollah2:
Does wearing of Hijab affect you, or the students? Has wearing of Hijab ever affected anybody? They have been wearing it since god knows when and it was never a problem. Do you know what a public school is? These schools pray in christian ways, sing christian songs among others but these are fine because you are a Christian but wearing of hijab is wrong. Yet, you claim to be tolerant.

N.B I'm not a Muslim. I respect all the 4000 gods on earth. I respect the old gods and new. I respect everybody regardless of which gods you serve or godless but hypocrisy,intolerance and bigotry are what i hate then expect me to come right at you if you posses any of these attributes.

Shalom!

I can't refute it, you are right ISI is a Public school. But i want to ask and I don't mean anything insultingly, do u know the essence of a uniform? I think it is to ensure that everyone wears the same thing regardless of ethnic and/or religious persuasion. If you guys win your fight to allow Hijab, I believe it won't stop there and you know exactly what I am talking about. Personally, I don't consider hijab wearing to be offensive but the ripple effect of what others choose to do may well bring that school grinding to a halt. What if others choose to don their various religious regalia in the name of equality, decency and moral whatever, won't we all laugh it off as a school turning into a circus? Like I said, there are bigger issues that I'd have loved these parents to address but it seems you are hellbent on Hijab wearing as a means to furthering your cause. More power to you guys.

ollah2:
Pls quote where i said ISI is a govt school?



Well, someone who knows about it than me has said it is a government school. Can you refute this?

I can see you are not a reasonable human being to have a simple conversation with.

Demmzy15:
ISI is a public school. And how does hijab block the head from learning? Or if you are against clothes, why not tell your children to go naked to school, so that they learn faster! Hijab is for our children not yours, stop making noise

I have zero hatred for Islam, my family background is mixed. But I have zero tolerance for bigotry and I believe that everyone should accept laws that are laid down everywhere. Wearing Hijab is a non issue, it doesn't infringe on your right as a Muslim. If a school is forcing Muslim students to say a Christian prayer or trying to convert them against their own will that is different and should be addressed.
Bros if we all decide to clamour for what we want on the basis of our religion u think this country and SW Nigeria won't erupt in flames? It's easy for you to say blah blah blah but are you looking further down the road to see where this leads to? Are you even concerned how this will be perceived by people of other religious persuasions? I already know the answer so don't bother responding.
Christians are far from flawless but atleast some of us are'nt hypocritical and we are not hiding behind the garb of things like hijab to push our main agenda. You preach alot of tolerance but can you take half of what you give to others? Again no need to respond cos judging by your comments I already know where you stand.

ollah2:
Who is running the British Grammer school? The missionaries? Why hatred for Islam killed your brains, if you buy a company. Won't you run the company based on your own mission and vision? Who is financing the School? Every Nigerian regardless of the religion is financing the School but a bigot like you don't want the Muslims to clamour for a Mosque in which is financed by them amongts others.

Bros u just answered your own question, you said Public schools. Is ISI a Public school? I am sure you will even have some private schools in Nigeria that allow use of Hijab BUT if ISI refuses it, how is it an issue? And I'm pretty sure those Parents knew about this a while ago so why protest now, why now? Not saying they can't air their grievances but expecting a school to change its laid down rules to favour a section of the students over the general populace in the name of religion, please tell me that is not selfish and bigoted? And when did a school become a parade ground for religious regalia? Isn't a school for learning and just that?

Demmzy15:
Dumb flaaathead, Muslim kids are allowed to wear hijab in UK public schools, I challenge your generation to dispute this fact. Muslim women are allowed to wear hijab in the police forces of the UK, Canada, US, Australia and many more. But bigoted Nigerians won't allow it, a country with 100 million Muslims. You people are very stupid, suicide bombers wear suits (I can show a video of an afghan Taliban bomber who blew up a police station in a 2-piece suit), shorts and shirts, and many other clothing- so according to your dumb analogy, we should ban these clothes? Do you even have sense at all?

The school you refer to, please who built it originally? I'll refer you to read on how Christianity was spread in SW Nigeria specifically and Nigerians in general. Also while you are at it, look up (under any metric) what the standard of education was when Christians were in control and what it is now that the Govt has taken over.
So my question is this, if there were schools built by Islamic Missionaries that had a mosque and was then later run by Govt, will Christians be clamouring for a Church to be built inside those schools? Please point out any one instance where this has happened in SW Nigeria?

The truth is you Muslims in the SW especially sees the average Christian as a threat to your way of life but sincerely asides evangelizing and preaching Christianity (which is not by force to accept), I am yet to see how we Christians pose any threat whatsoever to Muslims and their way of life. We both know the Hijab issue with ISI is only a front, if the school body gives in I know for sure that several more protests such as this will be launched across SW Nigeria. And it won't stop there, Muslims won't probably be satisfied until they basically change the name of the school. But my question is, to what end? Is it to get back at Christians? To stick it to them? To show that you have the powers of persuasion? This is a non issue and you know it. To prevent students from wearing Hijab to school may not be an attack on your precious religion, what if it is an attack on the school itself and it's core values. And you guys should just accept, not everyone or everything will give in to you. Some will, Some won't, it's not by force, just take what you are given and run with it. You don't like the school, withdraw the students and put them in Islamic established Private schools or in other private schools where the use of Hijab is tolerated, if that is more important to you than the knowledge to be imparted in the child.

ollah2:
Is there church in the same school? Yes, but you don't want mosque to be there yet it's a government school. I can also bet there more more churches, Catholic and Pentecoastal but it's a crime for mosque to bs built on such a ground. You guys are bunch of selfish intolerant mofos.

I can say no Christian dominated country is without violence. Just within October to November, three christian terrorists named Ian Long, Robert Bowers and Cesar Sayoc killed people in the USA. I guess it shouldn't be talked about since they are christians

Ilorin is not a tolerant city sorry. U can barely buy land in some areas there unless you are a Muslim. However Ibadan will not be the HQ of religious extremism, it will be places like Iwo and Ede. And it is already taking shape anyway.

omoelerin1:
I always say this: if there is going to be extremists, boko haram and almajiri in Yoruba land, It is going to start in Ibadan. That city will be the headquarters of religious extremism in Yoruba land. Despite that Islam is strong among the Ijebu people and Yoruba of Lagos, religious tension is absent. Even Muslim dominated city of Ilorin is moderate and tolerant.

Is ISI a govt school? Why are Muslim parents protesting over how a "Private" school chooses to enforce its own laws? What exactly is there to be gained? Equality? Moral Decency? What exactly? Should not the first purpose of every school be to impart knowledge? Are schools now the battleground for religion? I honestly don't understand this two facedness from you folks. And I guess I never will because it smells of mischief. And this is exactly why Nigeria won't realise it's full potential because we as a country, or atleast the majority of us, can't seem to call a spade exactly what it is.

ollah2:
Keep quiet and quit writing like an illiterate that you are. The school was built by missionaries donkey years ago, are the missionaries still managing the school? Isn't it tax payer's money the government use in maintaining the school? Aren't Muslims also tax payers?

The school is now a government property and the Muslims have every right to demand for the mosque. While writing this lengthy bigoted comment, you didn't include the part that christian songs are sang on the assembly ground, students are enforced to learn those songs and other christian activities. But this is fine since it fits your narrative and Christianity isn't devlish and selfish

Isn't it supposed to be a Government school?
Isn't a Government school supposed to be fair to all religions in the land and yes(traditionalists too)?

Shove your hatred down your dirty as.shole.

Incase you don't know, Christianity is the weapon because it promote violence and terrorism

I beg to differ but No it is Not. I don't see the connection between what one wears on the outward and peace and moral decency as you have put it. I don't even get the protest. ISI is a private school. The school board has every right to enforce the laws it set forth as it deems fit.
Were those Muslim parents not aware that these were the rules before they sought to enrol their precious little peaceful hijab wearing children there? Did ISI co-opt anyone of them by force? Really this is exactly why we will never ever progress as a country. We leave the real issues and focus on the non issues. Will a bunch of Christian parents go to enrol their kids in a private school that disallows wearing of rosaries or Christian robes, only for those Parents to start protesting later? Have you heard about it anywhere in this country? No one has said don't wear Hijab, just don't wear it to school? Is that too much to ask?
My take on this is that it is an organised ploy by Muslims. But I really don't know what they seek to prove, honestly I don't. Because when we start going down this path be rest assured it will only bring out the worst from all involved. Let sleeping dogs lie. The main purpose of any institution is to gain knowledge not a parade ground for religious values. You have your home or your religious centres for that.

OhiOfIhima:
Hijab is for peace and moral decency. If you have problem with it, it mean you are abusing the Child right.

You don't understand, I'm sure that $2.3bn must have included all the kickbacks needed for that contract to sail through. I bet you if this same contract were to be executed in Nigeria, don't be surprised if it costs $50bn or more. That is Nigeria for you, our leaders have a different appetite when it comes to corruption and enriching themselves.

Bigframe:
If this project can cost just $2.3billion and politicians can share almost that amount for election purpose, then we have big problem in our hands.

Nigeria was never great. Maybe we had signs of greatness but we have never, at any one point in our existence as an entity, been great.

3millionia:
Nigeria will be great again

I don't really understand. Do politicians really believe these things that jump out of their mouth? Do they really believe that we believe all of the BS that comes out of their mouth? Fashola, master of covering tracks for Tinubu for 8 years straight, has come to tell us the opposite of what he will do.

kirajustice:
@POLITICSNGR

Nigeria's minister of Works, Babatunde Fashola has said that he will never use Tax Payers' money to fund President Muhammadu Buhari's 2019 presidential campaign ahead of next year's elections.

PoliticsNGR gathered that Fashola made this comment while speaking in Sokoto after a 2-day retreat for Management staff of the ministry.

He revealed that he got dozens of requests from political organizations requesting for campaign funds for President Muhammadu Buhari's 2019 campaign.

In his words;

"Certainly not under my watch, this will happen. We never did it and we will not do it."

"Campaign needs money but members of the Public must understand that government is not a place for people who want to play politics to expect that funding will come from" he said.

https://politicsngr.com/just-will-not-fund-buharis-2019-campaign-fashola/

my thoughts exactly, the Ministries under Amaechi, Fashola and the Petroleum Ministry will fund Buhari's campaign next year.

Nwodosis:
Fashola has just told us that his ministry is funding the Buhari 2019 campaign!

East-West Road is supposed to be a dual carriage road. The last time I passed there which was 2014, the work done was to one carriage (atleast based on what I saw) the other carriage still had the old road. Can't say if it's been fixed now.

Joevics:
None?

Lol, you are funny.

He didn't build 12 universities?
He didn't construct East west road from delta to Akwa -Ibom?

The road I just past through some days back.

Why do you guys live in lies?

What about the other part of the question, what checks are to be done by you and how much will u charge? I am in Lagos.

GAZZUZZ:
the ES350 is a safer option. Parts are available.

Having read most of the comments before now, I write this with a heavy heart. If the individuals that have posted here thus far are a true reflection of the Nigerian populace then it is safe to say that we Nigerians are our own worst enemy.

So here we are again fixated on who comes from where, what religion this one or that one belongs and we have simply forgotten about the real issues on hand. The same BS happened in 2015, 2011, 2007, 2003 and 1999. Only a stupid person or people will continually make the same mistake and not take correction from it. Don't get me wrong it's okay to vote based on some kind of bias whatever works for you. However, if the majority of the country works this way then really it's a sad sad story.

The pertinent questions we all must ask ourselves is this, how has APC picking a Yoruba as it's VP affected the common man in the streets of Ibadan? How did Obasanjo's policies affect my folks in hinterland of Ekiti? How did GEJ's candidature affect the average Joe in Yenagoa or Ughelli or Calabar? How does Tinubu (and his cohorts) leadership of the APC affect the life of the common man in South West Nigeria? How has any candidate from any part of the country affected lives of the common people in this country? I know some of you here are paid to comment and stoke ethnic and religious fires for the purpose of profit, providence will judge you all. Or are we not aware that these politicians ONLY use us to fulfil their end which is to get to positions of power and loot for their generations to come. Today it's restructuring and this not to shade any candidate but why aren't we asking "HOW". And why have we never asked "HOW"? We swallow this and we swallow that then we cry about how bad the country is when the reality is that we ought to hold our leaders accountable cos they have simply shown over the years they can never be trusted all of them.

We forget this election isn't about just two candidates, we are quick to brush aside the others because they aren't "popular" enough or because they maybe can't pay to have some internet warlord come speak on their behalf. Where does this craziness stop? To you the easily swayed average Joe, the common man who has never benefited nor will benefit from all the politics being played i shake my head. We all have a role to play to ensure that we build the nation of our dreams. It will never be done by attacking one another and calling ourselves all sorts of names. Nigeria is bad, YES. Nigeria is not working, TRUE. But mere judging from the comments here, I know for sure attacking ourselves is not the way to go. We should be asking the right questions, getting informed and trying to hold our leaders accountable.

See it doesn't matter who becomes President tomorrow Nigeria's problems won't be solved overnight never mind whatever sweet promises being made to you by all the candidates. But the common man has got to shun all the unnecessary strife relating to ethnicity, religion and so on. Our problems are common to all of us. We all don't have light. Graduate unemployment affects us ALL. Lack of infrastructure affects us ALL. Yet we are here bickering about who is this and who is that. There is no political messiah coming to save us. We must rise above the minor stuff and focus on what is important.

Wazilyjnr:
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GAZZUZZ:
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Ioannes:
Look at this one. In one tread you are Yoruba, in another one you are Fulani, now you are Igbo.

Maybe you should go and do DNA test so that you can know which tribe you come from.

Confused mgbeke.

I pray that the heads of those people they killed in 2013 ,clearly due to the lack of proper maintenance, will come for you with this your useless statement being uttered.

lantres000:
Dana has the best aircraft in Naija at the moment. Unlike those other airlines with engine roaring like it wants to fall off

I laugh at your analysis. For the record I support neither party nor individual involved in this. Now let's get into it. I don't think Saraki will win the Presidential nomination of the PDP, I believe the best prepared resource wise will win and that may well be Atiku. I really do not understand the whole Saraki thing. He is not a heavyweight politically in my opinion. Yes he has Kwara state in his pocket and may enjoy some sort of loyalty from a handful of Politicians across both political parties but if we go by Zones and you put him on the ballot, he simply can't defeat Buhari, I struggle to see how despite the abysmally poor performance of the latter. Now if Mr Saraki loses (assuming he goes head to head with GMB), he can't even come back a Senator. And I think he knows if he contests the PDP primary and loses he can only come back at best as a floor member of the Nigerian Senate cos APC will simply not make the same mistake they made in 2015 by 2019 if GMB wins. So what you see here is him weighing his options. Politicians hate losing more than anything else. He is savvy I'll give him that and if Nigeria were a much better place perhaps he, Donald Duke and other individuals who I am pretty sure can perform a much better job than all of the past presidents (save for Yar Adua) we've had since 1999 would be at the forefront of contesting. But Nigeria is Nigeria and I honestly doubt the possibility of his intentions for 2019, 2023 may be a different ball game but even then we may well be talking an Igbo Presidency. �

gare:
Saraki learn from Atiku, if you go back they will frustrate you and make life miserable for you, since your mind is made up to move , you better do, because they will never keep to the agreement whether written or verbal. I know you are not that foolish to buy into that Greek Gift they are offering you, these are the same people that fought with you an embarrassed until this moment, so you are no longer sponsoring armed robbers to rob banks.

Now that you have the opportunity go, if not you will regret you never did

Hello All. I'd like to know how much it would cost for a couple to vacay in Cape Town this December?

Air Fare
Accomodation
Basic spending money
and other basic incidentals

Thank you

You think Nigerian Politics is about erudite men and women? You think Nigerians especially people from that state, my state would appreciate someone with a PhD or someone who was well mannered and meant well for them as a people? It seems you have no idea of how politics works in Nigeria and how the hinterland folks think.

What you are suggesting if for a saner society. Ours is not sorry to say, if it were our current president or most presidents that have ruled us wouldn't be presidents. I basically watched, as I was a secondary sch student in ado-Ekiti (from 1997-2002), how fayose started his campaign and took over during his first term in office. I remember his water trucks and his campaign office somewhere along ikere road. You would think those things shouldn't work but they do. He is also well known as a daring man who was ready to meet violence with violence. Fast forward and he is pretty much the same man. Don't get me wrong the opposition isn't much better in terms of violence. This is Nigeria's politics, it's all about who is willing to fight dirty to get whatever they want.

seanfer:
The truth is coming out gradually... It’s a pity that Fayose is what Ekiti could produced as their Governor with all their Professors

Aieboocaar:
Deluded mofo

May God almighty bless you for this insightful comment. Many will read but only few will understand the real meaning behind this comment. This is exactly what I have been saying. There are corrupt politicians on both sides, infact it is the same corrupt politicians that move across party lines just to fulfill their selfish ambitions. Buhari has failed no doubt and I believe he has to go if not for anything but for the killings he's simply refused to condemn under his watch. However, no one is asking simple questions about this new alliance out of nowhere. Just like the Nigerian people were sold Jonathan, then Buhari we are being sold some sudden saints from nowhere that all of a sudden have something to offer because they are criticizing the Govt of the day. I don't think it's enough to criticise, let's see what they have to offer and ask relevant questions else we risk the same thing happening again and again. It seems we just never learn in Nigeria.

Apina:
Buhari was an avoidable error, the same persons who said he was a saint are now the leading dissenting voices asking us to support them in ousting the monumental failure and disaster they selfishly sold to us so that they can install another disaster

Kindly indicate what voting PDP or any other party is like?

Sj11:
Ppl can never learn from their past mistakes,voting for Apc is like digging your own grave

You make a point but coming from where it is coming from you can't help but wonder really where all these voices were a year or two ago. They are within their rights to protest the killings, but these are the same men that have, in one way or another led us down this dark path we are as a nation. It is clear they are only using the killings for political gain just as Buhari did to Jonathan asper BH. Do you really think these men truly care about the lives that were lost in those states, NO. I'd feel more comfortable if the average Nigerian was the one protesting but then the average Nigerian is just like the average Nigerian politician. We are a direct reflection of our politics and our politicians. So in the end and I know this is not fair to some well meaning Nigerians, in the end we deserve the kind of leadership we get.

If you for one second think any of these men hold the key to benefiting the masses and truly putting us on some reasonable path of development, then you are new to Nigerian politics. As much as I want Buhari gone for his many failures, i don't know for sure that any of the front runners will be any better.
Remember how some thought by getting rid of GEJ that would mean the end of terrorism, only for terrorism to take a new form and name. We are just part of a vicious circle being dictated by these same politicians who have never been affected in anyway.

Ask the right questions Nigerians and shy away from petty politics that appeal to ethnic and religious sentiments.

ybalogs:
This is just a campaign against the killings and not necessarily against Buhari. They're only telling trying to tell Buhari to take proactive measures and ASAP.

Do not be silly man. If you read this post you will understand that successive administration have been doing this. I do not condone this nor support the buhari govt in anyway, I am only stating it as it is. But you may feel free to direct your ire at this current govt for not stopping this trend but it has been like this since time immemorial.

raph101:
hardly a person in this Buhari's government that will make heaven.

Please don't ever reply my quote with your misguided stupidity.

LZAA:
Can u put a cathedral in saudi arabia?
Can u put a mosque in the vatican?
Igbo and yoruba are non compatible and will never be
Make no mistake about it

Lola is not the only Yoruba woman married to an Igbo man true but most people here on nairaland and generally in Nigeria blame her for the breakup of the brothers simply because she's the odd one out based on her tribe. It is common knowledge that Jude never liked her, why I don't know. Some say it was based on what their late mother said that Peter shouldn't marry her. I am not saying she is perfect, everybody with him own. But the mature thing to do among the brothers is if Peter decided to marry her and go against his late mother's wishes then the two brothers should still support him cos in the end he is their brother and blood is thicker than water.

Look let's not cover this stuff up. She is Yoruba and that is probably why she gets the cold shoulder from Jude. If she were Igbo, I personally don't think it would have gotten to this level, attitude or not. I don't think Paul has any real problems with Peter but I think Paul should have stayed neutral regarding the rift between Jude and Peter.

In my opinion, the brothers should have rallied around Peter regardless of his choice of wife. Not every man is skilled at finding a balance between his own personal family and his relatives. It is common knowledge that Lola was never accepted into the family from the beginning and it had to do with the fact that she was Yoruba and she was older than Peter. I am talking way back before they touched real money. But in the end, Peter is a grown man and it's his life not theirs. I don't believe as a Parent my word should be binding on my child especially on a child who has gotten to a mature age. I can give advice but if you insist I'll still be there as much as I can even though I may have my resentment towards such action. They may have resentment towards her but blood is thicker than water and it seems they just allowed those resentment coupled with money and pride get in the way of what was a very successful family business. I feel sorry for all three. I am not happy that they went their separate ways and I sure am not supporting anyone of them. My joy would be to see them back together making good music. Overall I wish them the best.

Nightmareo07:
U are just talking rubbish... Nobody is bringing tribe here and I can't remember mentioning tribe in my comment..
Or is Lola the only yoruba woman married to igbo .
I know a lot of them and they are enjoying their marriage ..LOLA IS JUST BAD..its not about tribe.

And as for how I knew... I got it from right source.. And remember a lot of their were said by both peter and Paul during the saga.
Things were said and revealed mistakenly.