₦airaland Forum

plaindealer:
You are lying, 40 people died, not round figure 500 people that you people edited into Wikipedia.

In fact, they retaliated when the people in that community killed 6 Fulani men.

You people lie too much and I don't know why.


You don't know your own history so why expect you not to be clueless about other people's history.

Ordinary reading, you can't read. The article says:

...and scores massacred by over 500 armed Fulani herdsmen, rated the fourth deadliest terror group in the world...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbo_massacre

Where did you see it written that 500 people were killed?
Is 40 not two scores?
It seems like you're confused.

plaindealer:
1. Your wiki story is fake.

2. If true, when are you going to go to with Hausa Fulani herdsmen or the North? Or you cowards just wan Yoruba people to fight your war for and perpetrate hatred you?

1. Your reasoning is fake.
You're probably the only adult in Nigeria who doesn't know about Nimbo massacre. You couldn't even do a little Google search before displaying your ignorance.

2. Yorubas have never fought and can never fight a war, except verbal wars. Fight for and defend yourselves first before fighting for other people.

plaindealer:
Why are you shedding tears and going through pain and sorrow more than the believed bereaved?

When are you going to go to war over the ones they killed in the SW?

Follow your rainbow and stop wishing evil, war and hatred.

Have you heard of Nimbo massacre? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbo_massacre

So who is/are actually the bereaved? Is there any geopolitical zone that hasn't lost scores of people to the herdsmen in the last 4 years?

seunmsg:
The children of hate and anger will roast Utomi tonight.

Prof Utomi spoke the truth and I’m impressed with his courage. It takes a lot of courage to speak up against bigotry at this point in time when the easiest thing to do is to join the anti Fulani herd. We need more men of good conscience to speak up. We should condemn criminality and stop creating ethnic tension. Security agencies should up their game and secure the country from all forms of criminal activities.

That's what everybody is doing, but just that some people choose to call a spade a spade. People like you prefer to not to point fingers even if more of your kinsmen will be killed. Fulani herdsmen are causing the killing, so we should call them out and ask the government to stop them. Those that are calling them out don't hate Fulanis generally. We only hate the atrocities of the herdsmen.

Has she finished her #IJCOZA?

AkeNathan:
Does it matter? Knowing fully well you wouldn't survive the crash. Jumping off at a level seemingly close to the ground would be a worthy risk.

These people are either too scared to do a survival stunt or they knowingly went on a suicide mission.

Are you talking about a plane that was probably spinning while crashing down to the ground with speed? You can't jump off a plane when it is approaching the ground while crashing.

Bozoris:
Don't worry bros. God will answer your prayers and you will become a multi millionaire in pounds sterling [s] and then your rape accusers will show up.[/s]

Amen! You're in the Spirit, cos you used the exact and applicable currency.

The first and only person I am going to have sexual intercourse with, will be my wife, so nobody is going to show up from anywhere.

Godoverevery:
he didn't rape her ma trust me... investigation has be conducted and the man have confess what happened.....he actually dated her and committed adultery....it was true he disvirgin her and for her he was her first love...... they just want the matter to die a natural death to reduce the damage to both parties.
if the investigation findings is released both of them will really suffer a big blow.....got D's info from an insider.

That she loved him doesn't mean she wanted to have sex with him, especially since she was a virgin. She might have been infatuated with him and always wanted to be around him, but that doesn't mean she wanted to have sex with him. I've been infatuated with some girls in the past, but I never imagined having sex with them.

If because of their closeness, he coerced her into having sex with him against her will (which is very likely what happened, if your account is to be taken as true), then it will still be counted as rape, whether she enjoyed that sexual experience or not.

Let's even imagine that they were alone and suddenly started kissing and she was enjoying the kissing, then suddenly, he started undressing her. If she told him to stop at any point between that time up till when he penetrated her, it is still a rape.

How many virgin girls even have their first sexual intercourse willingly as teenagers? Many are coerced or forced into it, but because it often happens with the people they are going out with, they tend to accept it.

Jwonder:
Because he doesn't want to give the baseless allegation more attention than it deserve

But he had to step down as the senior pastor of the church he founded, right?

laudate:
No sir. You are wrong. The fact that a HIV patient is on ARV medication, does not mean his viral load is undetectable. It takes a while before this happens. In some people it could take several months or even years before this happens, after they start their treatment.

The patient will have to be highly disciplined in following a strict drug regimen, and would have to also show up for regular tests in the hospital, to monitor his CD4 count, etc.

So even while taking drugs, the HIV patient can still infect his non-HIV partner, if he does not take adequate precautions.

I have seen HIV patients coming late to the hospital, and they still develop complications like TB and other things, simply because they presented late, or were not compliant with their drug regimen, or those ARV drugs had side effects that caused unforeseen severe reactions in their body. The doctors then conduct more tests, before changing their drug combination.


I wonder, o! Can you imagine what he is saying.. ..

Thank you very much for your apt reply to him. It was a simple message I wanted to pass across to him, and he started talking rubbish whether I'm a doctor a not.

camobri:
be bold, say it loud, you wanna discriminate and act a judge, what do we expect from a Chriastain. Doc my foot

If this is the summary you could make from my post, good for you.
By the way, don't quote me again till you learn how to spell Christian. Thank you.

charliejose:
Deciding to infect people or not is dependent on the patient - that we can't control. However, it doesn't give anyone the right to stigmatize the many other innocent patients that go for treatment because they really care about their lives - of which is the basis of our argument to start with. You should focus your energy more on the people that don't even know their statuses but unknowningly spread the disease and those not on treatments but knowingly spread the disease - they are the main reason for the increase in infections.

I never said the HAART compromises the immune system. What I said was that the patient's immunity is usually compromised before or just after starting their treatments, and gets better as they continue taking their drugs.

Your comments are evident enough that you are not a doctor. So, it's not my opinion, it's a fact.

Do have a good evening as I won't comment on this again.

Maybe you're a clinical student or a newly graduated doctor (that's if you have anything to do with medical training at all), and that's why you feel you've arrived. You make me laugh. What do you know about medicine? Do you really want us to discuss clinical medicine here? Nonsense!

I pointed out something to you and you're talking rubbish. You said people on HAART have undetectable viral load, and I asked you if it happens immediately. Wasn't it obvious to you what I was driving at? That somebody has been started on HAART doesn't mean they are safe or that they will practice safe sex. By the way, there are factors that determine if people will achieve undetectable viral load, and drug adherence is one of them.
The slapping senator was said to have infected his wife while receiving treatment, yet his wife didn't know he was positive. There are many men who get diagnosed and refuse to disclose their status to their spouses and concubines. It's a very common thing seen in PEPFAR clinics.

I was never attempting to condone the nurse's post, cos I don't believe in posting things that happen at work on social media. Even though she intended to remind people that they should be very careful in their sexual activities, as many of the PLWH look healthy physically, she didn't need to talk about her patients.

I took him 6 months to appoint people he didn't know.
Shame on him and all his supporters.

charliejose:
You have a "doc" to your moniker, but I should believe you added that for fun... That's by the way. People that are actively receiving these treatments are even advised to abstain from unprotected sex so as to avoid re-infection or even contracting resistant strains of the virus - they are also at greater risk of contracting other diseases too as their immune system is compromised usually at the beginning of treatment. So, a greater percentage of those that infect people for revenge or whatever are the ones not on treatment. So, worry more about sensitization of people going for test and leave these people going for their treatments alone.

Bro, let's be realistic here. Some newly infected HIV people go on revenge transmission of the virus. They are counselled against it, but how many heed the counsel? Even simple adherence to the medications is a difficult thing for some. Yes, they can contract more virulent or even drug resistant strains of the virus if they don't protect themselves, but does it really sink? Isn't that part of the reasons why some people still die of AIDS within a few years of diagnosis of HIV, despite the availability of HAART everywhere?
It's not HAART that weakens the immune system, HIV does. What happens is that some people's immune system (CD4 cells) fail to recover even years after commencement of HAART.
As for the 'doc' in my moniker, your opinion doesn't matter. You're free to think whatever you like, as I don't care.

charliejose:
Research shows that people typically get to undetectable viral load in 6 months to a year after commencing treatment.

So what will happen to those who have sex with them within those 6 months to one year?
Mind you that some of these people deliberately want to infect others, cos they feel that someone gave it to them. That is when you see some of them sleeping with at least one new person every week.

charliejose:
Verbose, yet reeks of ignorance. HIV positive patients that are steadily
on Anti-retroviral therapy can't transmit the virus because of their undectable viral load. The real people spreading the virus are the lots of you that don't know your HIV status, talk more of starting treatment. So, this mistake of a nurse should have channelled her energy to sensitizing people to go for a test not stigmatizing innocent people that go for treatment because they care about their lives and that of others.

So once a HIV patient is started on HAART, their viral load will immediately become undetectable?

Bolustical:
So your own means of empowerment is employing people whether they contribute to the effective representation of your constituents or not?

There are no other ways to empower.

No creativity, nothing.

Truly most Nigerian youths have nothing upstairs.

But you celebrated giving a one off payment (loan) of 10k each to traders which was tagged Tradermoni. Why are you insulting this man?

Dpharisee:
Now the man has total control of the Executive, the Legislature and Judiciary.
I hope that now that he has only the people he wants in all arms of Govt he wont blame 16 years of PDP for poor performance .

If APC remains in power for 20 years, they will still keep blaming PDP

kemmylove101:
Wow. This people are bold and i like their cordination.
I wish biafra can stand firm like this fearless. The only way out of nigeria is not peaceful demonstration but war.

Do you know how many of their members have been killed by the Nigerian Army? In 2015, over 300 of them were killed on the orders of Buratai, in Zaria.

Kingosytex:
Baba Ruga should advise his pastoral kinsmen to emulate this man.

If they must set up the RUGA then they should do that in the north. Only Niger State is almost the size of the entire SE in terms of land mass


Or better still, there should go and set up the RUGA in sambisa forest, the land there is enough to accommodate all the cows together with their herders

The point in bold in incorrect. Niger State is more than 2½ times the size of the entire South East. Yobe state is also up to 2½ times as big as the entire South East. Meanwhile, none of the 2 states is as populous as Anambra State.
Why then do they want to set up RUGA in the South East?

iluvdonjazzy:
my dear read it well, you will discover it was a typographical error, she wanted to write "SHE" can't you see that statement does not make sense as she use HE instead of SHE.

No, you're getting it wrong. She was referring to the Senator being a nobody then and she equally being a nobody, so people didn't take the story seriously. If any of them had mattered, the story could have gained traction. The story only gained traction now cos the man is a senator. Nobody knows anything about the lady assaulted.

"She (my sister) was a nobody and I was the daughter of a nobody..." Does it make sense to you this way? If she was referring to her sister, she would have said "she (my sister) and I were daughters of a nobody...".

Destined2lead:
Why exactly is this car worth 1 bilion naira

I wonder o. Can someone really explain?

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deomelo:
They are not forcing your village to accept RUGA so keep quiet and stop barking like bingo.

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Then shut your stinking mouth with the useless billions of Naira rendition. We didn't tell you we need the revenues from the livestock industry. We don't want.

Also stop reminding us that the herdsmen are grazing our lands for free. It isn't your business, cos it's not your land. Let them graze the lands, but we can never cede the lands to them. It's as simple as that.

deomelo:
I laugh out loud when the RUGA rejecting governors shout and wail that they won't give up their land for RUGA..

NEWSFLASH.....Your land is already donated because the herders and grazers are already herding and grazing on your land free of charge and you can not do anything about it.

The FG is asking you to tap into a multi billion naira jobs and animal husbandry program to create jobs and make serious money off the same grazing that they are already doing on your land for free.

They graze on your land for free, they sell the cows back to you, make billions from the cows you slaughter and eat everyday, they return the money back to their states while you end up with nothing.

The smart leaders and state will adopt either RUGA or NLTP and end up with multi billion naira livestock industry with animal clinics, abattoir, meant and meat product processing and packaging plant, animal tannery and export facilities.

The North needs the billions more, you know.
El-Rufai reminded us about the true state of Northern Nigeria.
We don't want the money down south. It's that simple.

Neddstark:
Why Freeze? This Fatoyinbo man needs to go and meet Adeboye, Oyedepo, Adeyemi for advice.
We all know you kpanshed this girl but we are on your side that it wasn't rape.

My Advice for the Interview
- Let people understand the ill happened when you began the ministry and still had your weaknesses
- Stress that it was consensual and not rape
- Indicate you have apologized to your wife, family and anyone who sees you as a mentor
- Apologize to Busola and any other person. Let the world know that you are willing to talk to anyone whom has been hurt by you in the past and make amends
- Let people understand that Busola is not telling the entire truth
- Stress again that you have never raped and will never rape.
- Say you are still on a sabbatical off the ministry for a few months and will bounce back able to lead COZA better.

Sex scandals have been posed to many great men. Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, David in the Bible, etc. The best reaction is not denial or aggression. Apologize for your weaknesses and bounce back stronger. Wish him the best.

As for the Dakolos. For you to wake up in the morning to think of how to ruin someone's image, you all must be MAD

What about the second lady that gave an interview?

Is Eedris a Christian?

iluvdonjazzy:
but I still blame your sister small because of her greediness, fine young corpers are there for her to marry, but because they don't have money yet, she ran after the slapping senator because he has small change.

Did you see this part of the article, especially the part in bold?

Eunice Ojukwu replied: “I want justice for my sister. In 2013, when my sister died, I posted it on Facebook and no one took it seriously. He was a nobody and I was the daughter of a nobody. Then social media was not as strong as it is now. All I want is justice, let no one be deceived by those tears, he is an evil man.”

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deomelo:
Me sef don dey wait since for when the empty and shallow chest beating go start.

I understand, you people are the best thing since slice bread, the almighty ipobs..

When you people beat your chests, do you honestly think people get wowed and admire you or they just laugh at you?

We actually laugh at you..

Comedians..

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Call it chest beating, it doesn't matter. When you know your worth, you make noise about it.
Counter any of the things I wrote, or go and hide your face in shame.

You said it's my people that can't live together with other, yet they are being elected and appointed into powerful political positions in first world nations.
Tell me the nations where your "peaceful people" have been recognised before or just shut up!

You laugh the laugh of fools who know they have nothing to offer except for violence and destruction, yet can't appreciate those who work hard to achieve things for themselves. My dear, we don't need your recognition. The World gives us enough.

deomelo:
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[s] Confine our tribalism and bigotry and intolerance to yourself.

There Hausa Fulani people all over Nigeria leaving and co existing peacefully.

Yes, we have issues with goat headers,but they are not all Fulani and Fulani people in general are law abiding citizens like Atiku the Fulani man that you people follow follow and voted for and last time I checked, Atiku own over 2,000 cows.

So, stop with the ignorance and generalization and the only people in Nigeria that are not co existing peacefully with other Nigerians are you people and this issue is another great example.

It's crazy how you people once again managed to shout, wail and make needless noise over something a non issue, only you people as usual. [/s]

You've only succeeded in writing rubbish.

Do I need to remind you that there is a difference between Hausa and Fulani people?

I don't know which ethnic group you belong to, and I don't care to know. The outcry against Fulanis comes from all over the South East, South South, South West and Middle Belt. If almost everybody is crying out about you, then check yourself. Something you're doing may be wrong.

The last time I checked, Igbos are living peacefully in every part of the world, and there are no issues. They are even occupying political positions in other countries:
Italy has an Igbo Senator.
UK has about 3 or 4 Igbo MPs and 3 Igbo mayors
Canada has an Igbo minister.
Belgium has an Igbo man as a Councillor.
Now, tell me how many Fulanis of Nigerian origin hold any political position in any other country of the world.

Oh, so Atiku is no longer a Cameroonian? He's now a Fulani man, right? Nonsense!

chloride6:
Why should the SE have any bad road ?

Oyo state is bigger than the whole SE combined...

Why should Nigeria have any bad road?
The province of Ontario in Canada is bigger than the whole Nigeria combined.

Niger and Borno states are more than twice the size of Oyo State. Should we also ask why there should be a bad road in Oyo State?

deomelo:
1. If for whatever reason including fear of Fulani people including tribalism and bigotry you don't feel like giving or your donating your land for any FG program, you are free to say no and refuse to give land because it's voluntary, now please tell me, what is driving you crazy about Fulani people?

2. Is FG suing your governors for not donating land and refusing to participate?

3. s the FG sending the army to your states to force your governors to take your land and ship Fulani people from the north to settle on your land?


If your answer is not, then why are you people going berserk? Why are you shouting and disturbing the rest f Nigeria all over the place?

Why is it that only you people make a bid deal over everything in Nigeria?

What is your damn problem?

Deomelo, Fulanis can no longer peacefully co-habit with any ethnic group in the Southern part of Nigeria.

Ever before 2015 when Fulani herdsmen became the 4th most deadly terrorist group in the world up till this time that they're probably the most deadly group, Nigerians in most states of the federation haven't had peace because of herdsmen. No ethnic group wants to co-habit with them.

Moreover, these guys go about destroying the crops and means of livelihood of farmers all over the nation because their cattle have to graze. Why can't they take their cattle to graze only in uncultivated lands? Why deliberately enter farmlands and destroy crops? The people of Anioma in Delta State can no longer do their farming in peace simply cos the Fulani herdsmen use their cattle to destroy crops, and go ahead and kill anybody that dares to challenge them. They are now even involved in kidnapping for ransom and raping women. The same thing is happening in many states of the federation. Is it fair?

I thank God the agitation isn't only coming from the South East, otherwise you guys would have called us bigots and haters of the North. The agitation is from the whole South plus Middle Belt. Let's see how the government will get around it. Rather than forcing it on the rest of the country, the country will divide.

ijustdey:
•Scheme to come back soon, Yakassai insists

•Gani Adams, Yoruba group talk tough

He added that it would be in the interest of Nigerians for the Fulani herders to be settled in place.

https://tribuneonlineng.com/224524/

Deomelo, the quote in bold is for your attention. Liar!