DK's ancestors (Ogbomoso) were warriors in their own right too though,

I once read that the town acted as a place of refuge for warriors escaping from war, they felt safe within the walls of ogbomoso, that is big deal.

hercules07:

@Kilode

Defeated who, you won some battles but not the war, of course Ibadans were born to fight, the city took in all sorts of people such that the only way to keep order was to war.

@DK

Abeg tell them o, we taught their warrior all he knew about fighting, I highlighted it in one of my posts, imagine these guys o.

Yes but that is the problem with warrior kingdoms though, too much sinew too little sense.  


Of all the actors in that war, Ibadan was in a great position to learn from the lesson of the fallen Oyo Empire, they did not.

I think the problem with the Ibadans then was their inability to temper their hunger for war with good foresight, apparently they underestimated the determination of an alliance with little to lose.

The Ekiti alliance defeated them on several fronts because they were able to get other kingdoms on their side.

~Sauron~:

Who the Greek is Sauron?

It's you all right

Welcome back!

^

Sauron??

The same Sauron?

^
We know you don't fight unncessarily

Eko a r'omi sa legbe legbe



We Ara Oke's love lagosians just they way they are. . .

We won't ransack Lagos. NO. Afterall, when the battles are over, we'll all need to go somewhere for fun. .

^

Ok back to topic.

WRT to the Ogedengbe pic, Looks like he was superimposed on the background to me. The pic with his lieutenants is the same as the single pic. I may be wrong but that background looks cropped, maybe it's a restoration of his old photograph.

That being said, I'm sure we built great houses with local materials then. One of our great queens, Ooni Luwoo of Ife is quite famous for her pavements and architectural work.

^

It was a question Jo.

But You mean British naval rafts right? 

Was that the reason why Oba Akinsemoyin invited those animalistic portuguese in to trade in slaves? That Also fanned the embers of war in the "Yoruba" hinterland.

Everybody trying to sell something.

You dropped the ball Eko folks, you guys should have covered that flank properly, you let the long nosed liars in 

Every single indigene of Lagos is a decendant of refugees fleeing wars, skirmishes. . .


. . .and debacles? 

#justasking

Katsumoto:

Every man running around in a jungle refusing to surrender is not a war; it is not even a skirmish. That's just being stubborn.

LOL

Kai

LOL @ Hausa/Akagbe Debacle

Is that a video game war?

Is it on PS3?

He is ordinarily right of centre, but he is gradually shifting to far left of centre.

Can somebody explain what this means in Nigerian politics.

Define Right, Center and left with examples of leading ideological figures.

I want to think I'm a tiny bit politically aware, but I'm yet to see any well articulated description of these ideologies in Nigerian politics.

What are the values and ideas that represent left, right or center??

Except he's talking about the left and right of Crude Oil money sha

a few of my take away History lessons from the Kiriji wars:

Confederacy is possible if we can find common ground ( present day Ijaw nation seems to be learning this too, hopefully)

Powerful Kingdoms can fall if they become too haughty and careless i.e Oyo Empire

There are few forces greater than the will power of a people pushed againt the wall. (The Ekiti Parapo Alliance symbolized this lesson)

The present Yoruba nation is an amalgamation of different Kingdoms within their own rights, bounded by common interests and the quest for survival.

We already fought this civil war, no point fighting it again (well, until another power hungry section decides to lord it over the rest of us)



Ekt-bear, you can also read "Movements, borders, and identities in Africa By Toyin Falola, some great analysis in there too to help with your questions.

Hello o. is that the Looting Cabal Fighting to protect their investments?

I no blame them sha, free money is sweeeeeeet!


Patriotism my yansh, when they were busy sharing oil blocks and looting like there is not tomorrow they did not think about patriotism.

Now, every criminal looter wan claim war hero

afam4eva:

Why is it so difficult for the government to agree to a sovereign national conference? That just shows that the government is phony and do not care for the people of Nigeria. Is a sovereign conference too much to ask from the government?

I wonder for Ogas GEJ and David Mark.

Anyway, you can't expect a looter to reform himself, you have to force him to do it, when we get tired we will force them.

We never suffer reach

oyb:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-838573.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-797397.0.html#msg9488996

i will watch all the gej muppets on that thread speak out of the other sides of their lying mouths

LOL

But you know they will spin this and find an excuse to oppose the idea.

When Bakare and co came out to oppose fuel subsidy, they attacked them, saying they should be protesting against corruption

Now he's organizing against corruption, they are screaming he should go and fight Boko haram 

If civil society groups cower and decide to go against Boko, these same sycophants will find another excuse, maybe they will want them to fight Ghana then.

They don't want change, they prefer continuity and the corrupt status quo.

ekt_bear:

My great-great-grandfather (the man I am named after) fought in this war. We had his sword, but it seems to be "missing" from our family compound

Orúko nií ro omo. . .

Names are like prophecies.

chino11:

Will it make any difference because Yorubas that I know will still go back collect bribe money from abokis just like they did in the case of Abioala. 

They should not touch the guy either[b] he is one Yoruba with intellectual Igbo brain. [/b]

ROFLMAO

Chino, dude, if there is a marketplace where one can buy a character like yourself, please point me to it, you amuse me to no end.

If I have free access to $1.2M / annum, plus millions of dollars more in legal and illegal freebies, I might want to die defending it  too.


Yeye person

It means nothing. The thieves and thugs benefitting from the struggles of the Niger Delta people have the support of the looters of Nigeria. They are their co-oil bunkerers and co-Conspirators.

This faux amnesty program will continue to enrich a few hooligans and their while the masses in the Niger Delta suffer.

Read this book: A Swamp Full of Dollars: Pipelines and Paramilitaries at Nigeria's Oil Frontier

Read my location signature. It's been there since April 2011.

isale_gan2:

Cute guy, but . . .  I have never seen a nose like that before ever.  I would never have guessed his ethnicity.  Also looks like he's got some caucasian, obviously.

Katsumoto, were you in a contest. . . to see how many  from all over the world?  

Kilode is Edo.  Now for the rest of the 85% that makes Kilode, Kilode, and the circle is complete.  

Iyalode Iwapele! Welcome back.



Ekt_bear, My Edo sistas are pretty hot.

But my Edo girls are closer to Yoruba men

At the end of the day that is all that matters.

I actually think Chimamanda Adichie looks Yoruba  

BTW, what's going on? Did somebody discover new oil fields in Benin?

“But let us state that it was not the governor who was disgraced by the stoning. Instead, it was the president himself. Now, if stoning is a yardstick for non-performance, are we also right to say that the burning down of Mr. President’s house in 2007, in the run-up to that year’s general elections, was also an act of rejection by the people of the state?

A lot of people believed that the burning of his house and the action of militants in 2007 were an expression of rejection. Is Mr. President now confirming that wide belief?

Two thieves throwing stones at each other.

Bayelsa children are there with little healthcare and poor school facilities despite the billions allocated to that small state.

Yet, these Bunch of looters in power are fighting over hotel contract 

It's satire folks. Just be a good sport, laugh or shrug and move on.

As soon as we get our acts together, we'll have to annex that tiny village called Ghana.

We need to save them from themselves, Kofi can't live one day without writing stuff about Naija.

Yeye people

Beaf:

Not NL, but reality opens eyes.
I am still idealistic as ever, but now a hardened realist whose eyes are wide open.

Ok then.

If I may ask, what is your opinion on GEJ's obvious lack of interest in leading the call for a Sovereign National Conference?

Do you think he will change his mind?

Any thoughts on why he's not leading the push for a SNC? Especially when several regional political pressure groups have called for it, including MEND, MNN, OPC, Civil society, even some serving Governors and leaders of thought across all regions.

If you ask me, I'll say the climate is right, even Boko Haram seems interested sef.


I'm asking you these questions because I believe the biggest hindrance to true Federalism is lack of political will. Mr president can use his presidential pulpit to preach this idea, carry it to the 4 corners of Nigeria and it appears he will get a lot of support.

Why do you think he's holding back

I'll appreciate your take on this.

Ufeolorun:

Shame on Obj man! see as Ijaw people they do [b]laulau,[/b]for awa turn baba was playing Mr. Nigeria
Olorun o! if we get there again man!;
Mc oluomo must be defense minister.
Gani adams  supervising minster for Odu'a affairs.
Tokyo of Ibadan will be  minister for transport.
Salawa Abeni, ministry of petroleum( if Allison can be minster why not salawa?)
Iya aladuke special adviser,women affairs.

Jonathan has taken governance in Nigeria to another level of mediocrity and cronyism.

^

What he said  

When the conference go start?

This must be when Beaf was still innocent, young and idealistic.

NL can spoil sha

Lol