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codemaniacs:
There was no biafran war...

It was a civil war not a biafran war..

It was majorly a SE vs SW war..

After ironsi was killed ojukwu realised igbos were no longer in power and had lost control of its resources due to ironsi making Nigeria a unitary and igbos where getting killed in the NORTH so ojukwu decided to attack Nigeria whose seat of power was Lagos...

To attack Nigeria back then, the SW would have to be attacked because the seat of power was in Lagos.

It wasn't a NORTH vs SE war..

I have come to believe that 90% of Nigerian youths outside the SE/SS area aged from 1 to 45 cannot accurately state the correct sequence of events that led to the war. People who want discuss politics but don't know how the war came about. Lol

shamecurls:
One of the few sensible Ugandans.


If Ojukwu had a quarter of whats upstairs, 3 million people wouldn't have perished and died of starvation.

And if Gowon had not broken the Aburi agreement he signed with Ojukwu in Ghana, there would have been no war in the first place

alade112:
I Can't believe some peeps re taking dz OlanreJohnson who is a known igboman in disguise serious

I can't believe some peeps are taking Lagos/Ibadan threads like this serious.

The headline is misleading! He did not bash IPOB or Biafra. He only said:

I must say that if anyone wants Biafra, he should be able to outline what we have in stock for a new nation

Which is understandable. It is a rare thing to see an Igbo born indigene and son of the soil who will 'bash' Biafra. The few who do it are the politicians for selfish interests and those raised outside Igboland who have since lost touch with where they come from. Self determination is ingrained in Igbos. What I do not understand about the present crop of Nigerians who are against Biafra is that they are living witness to how Britain who made us "Nigerians" have used referendum twice in two years to determine its political unity. They used it in 2014 to allow Scotland to stay or opt out. The used it again a few weeks ago to opt out of Europe. But a Nigerian will be screaming "we must stay together or war!'. We have a very long way to go as Africans.

This story is like 5 years old

Were Igbos not Landlords in Nigeria when they left it in 1967? Small kids talking nonsense

Controversialad:
its easier to stay at your corner and call it fake.. why not ask questions? In fact verify for instance? Ndi ara ndi ara

What is there to verify when I know my own custom? A non Igbo cannot be confered with the title of Igwe. End of story.

These people and fake news! The didn't even bother to do there homework

1)The Goverment cannot confere an Igwe titile on anyone. Only the Ichie's or council of Chiefs can do that.

2)The Igwe title cannot be confered on a non Igbo. It is sacriledge

An 'Igwe' has to be Igwe of somewhere in Igbo land. Where is the Hausa man the Igwe of?

The mods should pull this thread down for being fake.

oganlataofeek:
tribalism is so deep rooted in Nigeria

That's true, but despite knowing this, it is a Yoruba man that will shout 'one Nigeria' the loudest.

Genea:
Good the we are both on track but let's divide only when we have our priorities right, we don't want to end up being mocked..

Well, if you're waiting for priorities to be right in Nigeria, then you will to wait a long time. The priorities of Nigeria won't ever be right because the 3 main ethnic groups are too different religiously, culturally and ideologically to ever be united. It's like someone who is hoping to get water from stone, it may eventually happen but it will be thousands of years.

Genea:
so wah is actually ur take on the Biafra issue then.

My take on it is that before Lord Lugard and British came, the Yoruba/Igbo/Hausa people were largely at peace with each other. Since Lord Lugard brought his message of 'one Nigeria', all three have been at each other's throats. If Britain who made us Nigerians can can allow Scotland the right to go or stay, then who are we to say that 'Nigerias unity is not negotiable'? Nigeria is long over due for renegotiation and if continue as we are, the country is most likely to implode

mrkayusfit:
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Igbo's have been a huge beneficiary of one Nigeria and you won't be allowed to chicken out now that things are going south. Aguiyi ironsi an igbo man suspended regionalism for the selfish gain of himself and Ojukwu. The result is what we have today. We will never support any referendum. Forget biafra and lets build a great Nigeria

Mr 'one Nigeria' troll, shift your a$$ somewhere else. We are talking about self determination here. It's not a discussion for kids or someone who has the "Lord Lugard made me a Nigerian" slave mentality. Independence is for men, not boys. Instead of you to pick up a broom and look for an Emirs palace in North to sweep, you are online wasting your MB

Paretomaster:
according to who?....can u give me fact and figures, cos last time I checked the census out Kano as more populated than Lagos.

so until another census, it's all hearsay...


http://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/Nigeria06CensusFigs.html

You are using Census figures that were highly discredited and rejected. There is no way Kano can be populated than Lagos

Genea:
We clamour for Biafra, who are those that are going to be in power The younger generations or those who are already in power and do not take care of those who voted them in?? What would generate revenues for this so called Biafra How many states in the east have made a name for themselves, how will Biafra affect its citizens as a whole Its not bad to be an independent entity but what would it profit us to leave the fry pan and jump into fire Let's put things in place first before breaking out...

Let me tell you something. Britain is 5th richest country in the whole world. Despite all the economic advantages of of being part of Britain, Scotland agitated for indepedence. Do you know why? Because the Scottish people were tired of being controlled and ruled by England and wanted to administer themselves which is their right. The British Government gave them a referendum. It was during the weeks and months leading up to the referendum that the Scots realised that voting for indepedence would mean not using the Pound and that it would also mean leaving the EU. A small majority then voted to stay in Britain. Now that Britain have voted to leave the EU, the Scots have vowed to hold a second referendum if Britain drags them out of the EU. So answer your question, the main reason people agitate for indepedence is to acieve self rule. Economics follows secondary

Paretomaster:
hold it right there......lagos have the population no doubt..but half the entire North? are u kidding me, did u know d population of Kano alone?....

Lagos is estimated to have a population that is close to 25 million people. The entire North has a conservative population of 50 Million

Oyegun must be suffering from Malaria if he thinks that APC stands any chance in the SE

engrsyer:
Pls I wan travel out of this Naija before hunger kpuff me.

Why are you traveling? Just go into your room and shout 'Sai Baba!' Like you guys were doing last year.

GEJ might not have been the best but at least under him, the economy was growing at 6%. Then all of you suddenly decided that a gworo chewing cattle rearer from Daura with a long history of incompetence is the answer to our prayer.

fexti:
after what the westerners (white) did to Africa (black) in the early days, all in the name of colonization, i wonder why we still give them the chance to have a "say" in our economic affairs. and why they still oppress us till date. it also baffles me that we Africans, especially Nigerians loot our selves. and then take our loot to their countries. and help them develop their economy, while our people suffers back home. hmmmm.
we are still not wise after what they did to us.
these few photos might be able to explain better.

It is funny that Africans and Nigerians now see a pictorial depiction of some of the methods Lord Lugard in making them 'Nigerians'. But that's not eve the worst part. The worst part is that when some Africans such as the Igbo, tried to reinvent themselves and shed the 'colonial title' of 'one Nigeria' by trying to administer themselves, the same Nigerians that Lugard did all this to came down to the East to repeat the same thing and killed 3 million. All for the same 'one Nigeria' that Lugard tortured and killed their forefathers for. There is something very wrong with us African

Izumarock70:
Igbo bu Igbo ekele m unu o, ndu mmiri ndu azu. Egbe bere Ugo bere nke si ebe ya ebela nku kwaa ya o.

Aha m bu Izunna, a bu nwa afo Umunoha nke di na. Cansulu Mbaitoli nke di na steeti Imo.

A choro m iji ohere a kwuo maka ihe metutara anyi bu ndi Igbo. Ana m akpo umunne m ndi Igbo bi na ugwu awusa nakwa ndi bi na obodo ndi ofe mmanu ka ha were nwayo na ewedata aku-na-uba ha na ala Igbo n'ihi na agha akara aka anaghi eri ngworo.

Matakwanu na ndi ugwu (ya bu ndi alakuba) nakwa ndi ofe mmanu ahughikwa anyi ma oli. Ya mere ihe obula unu na eme ka uche unu dikwa na ya.

O na ewute m nke ukwuu etu umunne m si arukasi industry na ala yoruba. Ma ana ju si oburu na ogu su na lagos ma I ga ebu company ala?

Onye mara asu ya suo na Ikwe, onye na amaghi asu ya suo na ala.

Ekwuchala m. Udo nke naani Chineke na enye diri unu niile.. Iseeeeeeeee

Eziokwu ka ikwuru. Mana.................. Ndi be Anyi anaghi anu ihe. O bu so mgbe ihe g'eme ha na ugwu-Awusa ka ha ga mata ihe.

kolaaderin:
Take a good look at size of your region compared with others and tell me a single reasonable reason why we should not merge to reduce the five states to three.

States are not based based on land mass,but on population. Lagos is like half the size of the smallest Igbo state, Abia state, but the same Lagos has a population of half the entire North.

Idealy, Anioma state should be the 6th Igbo state but powers that be have refused it. Anyway, whenever regionalism returns, we Igbos are going to dissolve all 5 states and end 'divide and rule'

specimenC:
If he had no interest then explain his announcement on the radio of taking over the country. He never said he intend to handover to someone else, before you come here making claims for him...

Of course he would have to announce that the military had taken over. But collaboarators in the coup and investigations conducted after has since shown that Nzeogwu and co wanted to take over the country and make Awolowo president. Besides, there was no way Nzeogwu could have been president because he was just a major and had too many people senior to him in the armed forces.

ConqueredWest:
Even the bible says, can two walk together if they don't agree

Really? I hope the two walking together will be Hausas and Yorubas so they can finally leave us Igbos alone.

With Yoruba/Igbo/Hausa at each other's throats, how can Nigeria ever be like South Africa? A divided house never moves foward

3 Trillion Naira? The way Nigerians mention money is shocking

Integrity that has no WASC

7lives:
Abeg go siddon, so with all the mouth wey una dey make for nairaland, una still dey fear Fulani cattle rearer.
Na only mouth and chest beating una get, it is indeed true that NO MATTER HOW MAD A DOG IS, IT STILL RECOGNIZE ITS OWNER.

Prove that is Igbo land. You guys think that cheap Yoruba propaganda still works. I won't be surprised if those pictures are domewhere in Ibadan

charix:
The first 42 views of every thread, who're they, mods? I've noticed the pattern on this forum: if one opens a thread the view count starts from 42. I've seen 28 before but it was a rarity.

On topic: Ofe mmanu is a derogatory word Igbos call Yorubas. It stems from the Yoruba love for making oily soups. The word 'oil' in Igbo is 'Ofe' hence the association. Can't remember the English translation of the word 'mmanu', another nairalander would mention it.
Some sellout moderators here use the word filter to censor the word when written without a space to appear as 'Yoruba' thereby defeating the purpose of its use.

What are you talking about?

Ofe is not Oil in Igbo

StOla:
Interesting!

I quite understand the logic of uneven progress of former peers in an organization based on their respective performance.
So Ademulegun was commissioned before even Ogundipe who was his senior behind Ironsi?

Whatever happened to Bassey as he was nowhere in the army hierarchy during the period of the 1966 mutinies?

Yeah Ademulegun was the third person to be commissioned after Bassey and Ironsi and he holds the Army number (N3) for this. I think that Ogundipe was (N4) while Shodeinde was (N5). All of them were commissioned in the 1940's while others like Maimalari, Adebayor and Effiong were commssioed in the early 50's. However, Ogundipe left the Army to go and do other things but was recalled after indepedence due to acute shortage of officers after the British left.

Unfortunately for Bassey, despite being the first Nigerian to be commissioned as an officer, he never moved above the rank of a colonel. There was this talk that he was a coward who didn't like military confrontation. So while the likes of Ironsi were going to the Congo to fight, he shied away. When the Nzeogwu coup took place, Bassey dressed up as Fulani herdsman and escaped Lagos until the dust settled. He was then appointed commanding officer Kaduna military cantonment. When Bassey got wind of the second counter coup, he hurriedly took his statutory leave, handed over to Effiong, jumped into his car and sped off to his hometown of Calabar. Within a few days of Gowon taking over, he retired both Ogundipe and Bassey.

jayfolarin:
And Western countries will keep denying you Visas to their countries until you recieve sense and realise that you don't have anywhere but Nigeria!! You keep hailing economic sabotage! Kontinu!! It will only make you further away from humane living conditions that everyday people enjoy in saner climes!!

Mtscheww! what am i doing here seff, I am not Affected!!

I still can't believe that stupi.d ass of an ex-president who is most likely sponsoring all this unrest all over the country hasn't uttered a word of condemnation to various acts of sabotage happening even at his backyard! What a sore loser and Terrorist!!

Who told you that we Igbos don't have anywhere but Nigeria? You actually believe that nonsense? We Igbos have somewhere else and we already went there in 1967 before you guys came to fight for three years to bring us back. It is the rest of you that don't have anywhere but Nigeria. When it comes to 'one Nigeria', you are on your own. That's why most of us don't care about who stole what it who is bombing pipelines. How can we be concerned about something we have no stake in?

Aigbofa:
It was just six years after independence. The coup was unnecessary.

There has never been a coup in Nigeria that was necessary. However, what makes the first coup different from all others that followed was that Nzeogwu had no interest in siezing power for themselves

I wonder what gives people the impression that Chuka Umunna is 'Nigerian born'? He isn't. Chuka was born and raised in England to late business mogul Chief Umunna and a British mother. No doubt that he has Igbo heritage but his country of first allegiance in Britain. He has been to Nigeria a few times to meet his extended family but when it comes to his nationality, he is British. These people that are asking why he didn't marry an Igbo girl, why would he do that? Of what benefit is that to him?

Buhari came in and thought that now is still
Military era. Instead of engaging everyone in dialogue, the militants, Biafran separatist etc, he used unnecessary force and made matters much worse. I think it is already a foregone conclusion that the Biafra separatists will keep agitating, the militants will keep destroying Oil installations for the remainder of his regime. That what happens when a clueless dullard becomes president of the country