₦airaland Forum

edoyad:
Now whose argument should I support, that of Bruce, successful business man and senator who employs over a thousand people, or you, anonymous poster on NL?

You don't have to support either of us. What you have to ask your self is if the north is the only place food can be found. Many years ago, my In-law was involved in importation of Rice from as far away as Japan.

carinmom:
One of the few times the man made sense.



Are you saying that fuel is distributed free in the north while you buy food items from them? You are the one who is funny and doesn't make any sense.

I'm not talking bout fuel. I'm talking about the proceeds of crude Oil.

Ben Bruce makes me laugh with this postulation. Are the Notherners giving us this food for free? But the Northerers are taking the proceeds of oil for free in the name of 'one Nigeria'. The South does not depend on the north for anything, if there was no Northern Nigeria, us in the South would buy food from other countries like Cameroon,Benin Republic, Ghana etc and life would go on. But if there was no Southern Nigeria, only God knows what would have happend to the North by now.

Edo state where I served NYSC is richer than my home state Anambra? Madness is rife these days

Obiodunukwe:
Did you read the whole article?

Did you see the part where the mother said her daughter stopped attending her church and insisted that she must attend Deeper Life?

Did u read the part where the mother said her child became uncontrollable and sleeping outside their home ?

This child was not kidnapped . Brainwashed ? Maybe!

Listen, a minor or anyone below the age of 18 cannot go and live soomewhere else without parental consent. And anyone who takes in a minor, wether the minor went there willinly or not, had kidnapped a child. A minor in another persons custody without parental permission is kidnapp

tuale4u:
It is very common to see IPOB sympathisers trying to Blakmail we south south by saying the word "South-South" only exist in Nigeria as a way of dividing eastern region. This is a big lie. The word south south as a way of grouping regions has existed in United nations as far back as 1978. It is united Nation recognised terminology.




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South%E2%80%93South_cooperation


I have never seen people so pathetic and emotional like IPOB sympathisers. IPOB supporters despite thier pride are willing to eat shit for south south people to Join them so also is the North willing to die than allow south south Join IPOB. The truth is dat neither Biafra nor the North love us. They both want our resources desperately.

Today South South in Nigeria have two states (Edo and Delta) from Old Western Region. I have never seen OPC/Yoruba people crying to high heaven how thier land/ people are being taken from them. Some part of Delta and Edo State speak yoruba. Most Chevron oil production is from "Yoruba" speaking part of Delta state.

If we can accept the word North, West, east etc which are white man creation, why cant we accept south-south which is also a white man creation or terminogy.

in geographical location there is South South West (SSW) and South South East ( SSE). Combining both produce South South.
This is exactly d case in Nigeria.

Do u know by traditional definition of a continent geographically, europe and Asia are one continent? Yet United Nation accept Europe as a seperate continents base on other factors apart from simple grographical classification. Factorization is an important component accepted by United Nation in regional classification.


IPOB change your Biafra map to include only Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo state and see if you will not get Biafra in less than 2 years.

as long as u include one inch of south south land in ur dream biafra, you wont get Biafra in d next 40years. The greed and covetousness of IPOB will not allow them leave south south alone.

source directly from United Nations
http://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/ourwork/development-impact/south-south-cooperation/

Is there something wrong with you? Why are you insulting people by calling them 'South-south'? When Lugard came to west Africa to create Nigeria, did he meet any group of people called South-south? So how did this so called South-South come about? The important thing in Nigeria are the tribes that make up the country, you don't go and import a name from nowhere and call people by it. SS,SE,SW are just mere geopolitical zones and they are not recognised by the constitution because they don't really mean anything. Biafra is about different tribes who agree. If there is any tribe that does not like Biafra, they can opt out or vote in a referendum to stay in Nigeria. So what is your problem? This thread is baseless

blaqoracle:
the Anioma denouced igbo the moment they started answering Bendel Igbos. Have you really imagined the import of that word BENDEL IGBO.

All I can tell you is that "Bendel" is just a creation of Military ruler. However, the word "Igbo" existed for thousands of years before that. It is left for you to think about which if those two words is more important

Deadlytruth:
And people like you talk out of pure mischief and peddle lies to deceive the gullible. Aguyi Ironsi dismantled the regions and split Nigeria into 35 provinces and set out to draft a new unitary constitution which would suit the operation of unitary system over the new 35 provinces even though the public did not demand a constitution review from him. That showed he had something wicked up his sleeves. Go back and check your books. Aguyi Ironsi promulgated a decree 34 which he himself titled unification decree. If Aguyi Ironsi did not dissolve the regions then what else was his Unification Decree 34 meant to achieve? Get this into your block head. Unification means to make several separate entities to lose their individual identities and become one. Don't you have a dictionary in your house? Aguyi Ironsi was advised against tampering with the regions in any form at all but he arrogantly refused to and even argued that such was the only way his military junta could govern effectively.
The Northern officers who staged the counter coup that killed Aguyi Ironsi made it clear that his unification decree was one of the reasons they killed him as the decree amounted to bundling every region together as one single seamless entity under Igbo domination thereby heightening the Igbo domination fears already in the air. Were the Northern officers lying against Ironsi? If Ironsi's action did not substantially alter the regional structure would the Northern counter coup officers have listed tampering with the regional structure as one of his sins? If Ironsi left the regions intact as you want us to believe then why did he not allow the civilian premiers continue in their positions and allow the regions whose premiers were killed by the Igbo boys in Jan 15 to simply conduct parliament elections to quickly replace them?
Gowon actually returned us to the four region structure immediately he took over. He did that by his own Decree 59 which he pronounced on September 1 1966 i.e just two days after Ironsi's death and overthrow. If Ironsi's Decree 34 did not alter the status quo at all then why was there the need for Decree 59 by Gowon?
But the moment Ojukwu declared Biafra he had to quickly break it down to 12 states as a strategy of war aimed at dividing the eastern minorities against Igbos hence weakening the Igbos towards the war. If Ojukwu had not declared Biafra Republic Gowon would not have broken the restored regions into 12 states. Recall that Gowon clinched power July 30 1966 and Ojukwu declared Biafra May 1967. Now, during the time lapse between these two dates Gowon abrogated Ironsi's Unification Decree and restored the four regions which stayed alive while he and Ojukwu argued over the best system to adopt between confederacy leading to the Aburi Accord meeting in Ghana. In his arguement at Aburi Ojukwu's position was that each region should be allowed a greater autonomy. Now if Gowon had already broken down the region to states as of that moment I don't think Ojukwu would have still been referring to regions in his demands. He would have rather included a restoration of the regions as the first item in his list of demands at Aburi. Of course you can't be demanding for autonomy for regions which were not in existence. You would rather demand for the regions first before demanding for their autonomy. So the mere fact that Ojukwu, a very intelligent officer, did not include restoration of the regions in his list of demands meant the regions were actually existing under Gowon. But it was after arrival from Ghana that Gowon broke the regions to states as a war strategy response to Ojukwu's declaration of Biafra. Get this logical analysis into your head and stop defending the irreversible evil Ironsi did to this country just because he was of your tribe.

OMG! You are an example of a Nigerian who does not know Nigerian history. It is really pathetic that so many Nigerians just don't know the history of their country but are quick to shout 'one Nigeria!'. I suggest you google the history of Nigeria and read about the period from January 1966 to May 1967 to cure your ignorance. You said that Ironsi dismantled the regions and created 35 provinces? Can you tell us the name of any one of these provinces Ironsi crated? You don't even know that the four regions were still in place almost a year after Ironsi died? You don't even know that Ironsi was on a tour of the four regions when he was killed? Ironsi was killed when he was on the western region tour, so how can he be visiting the regions if he had already dissolved them? Yes it is true that Ironsi promulgated the unification decree,and he had to do this because military rule is not democratic rule. Every military rule runs on some kind of unification decree. But he did not abolish the regions which is the main thing you are arguing here. You don't even know that the reason why Ojukwu declared Biafra on the 30th of May 1967 was because Gowon had announced the creation of states 3 days earlier on the 27th of May, which was against the Aburi confederal agreement he signed with Ojukwu in Ghana. The 36 states Nigeria has today is a creation of military Governments starting from Gowon all the way to Babangida. So how can you blame Ironsi for unitary rule when he never created any state? Cure your ignorance or start reading books, the North killed Ironsi because they wanted political power, that's always been what they wanted in Nigeria

PBundles:
Seems I need to educate you all the more, the fact that you cant rebuf it and can only say what you said proves it but oh well, ignorance is a diesease. Ok get a pen and take notes, feel free to check, ask historians. Sad thing is the information is there if you really want to. Tip, instead of belittleing, simply ask..................You can thank me later

On 29 July 1966, soldiers including Murtala Muhammed, Theophilus Yakubu Danjuma, and Martin Adamu, led the majority Northern soldiers in a mutiny that later developed into a "counter-coup". The coup failed in the South-Eastern part of Nigeria where Ojukwu was the military Governor, due to the effort of the brigade commander and hesitation of northern officers stationed in the region (partly due to the mutiny leaders in the East being Northern whilst being surrounded by a large Eastern population).

General Aguiyi-Ironsi and Colonel Fajuyi were abducted and killed in Ibadan. On acknowledging Ironsi's death, Ojukwu insisted that the military hierarchy be preserved. In that case, the most senior army officer after Ironsi was Brigadier Babafemi Ogundipe, should take over leadership, not Colonel Gowon (the coup plotters choice), however the leaders of the counter-coup insisted that Colonel Gowon be made head of state. Both Gowon and Ojukwu were of the same rank in the Nigeria Army then (Lt. Colonel) but Ojukwu was more senior in terms of when he completed Sandhurst. Ogundipe could not muster enough force in Lagos to establish his authority as soldiers (Guard Battalion) available to him were under Joseph Nanven Garba who was part of the coup, it was this realisation that led Ogundipe to opt out. Thus, Ojukwu's insistence could not be enforced by Ogundipe unless the coup ploters agreed (which they did not).The fall out from this led to a stand off between Ojukwu and Gowon leading to the sequence of events that resulted in the Nigerian civil war.

Wish I could break it to you softer, but cant.

But I have a question now since you seem to know so much, would you please rebuf or prove wrong what I stated about the 3 tons of lugagge and the Mercedes please............Im waiting (yawns again)..............I know truth hurts when you realise what you believed isnt real after all.

For the record, my paternal roots are SE (IBO) and SW (Bini and Yoruba), whilst my maternal are IBO and North(Hausa).

Get some facts right. As at the time Ironsi was killed, there were at least 10 officers who were senior to Gowon. They were:
Brigadier Ogundipe, colonel Bassey, Colonel Nwawo,Colonel Hillary Njoku,Colonel Imo,Colonel Adebayor, Lt Colonel Banjo,Lt Colonel Ejoor and Lt Colonel Ojukwu. Under Military tradition, the most senior officer should have become head of state. Gowon should have never become head of state but for the fact that he was a northerner. Ojukwu never went Sandhurst, he went to eaton officer cadet school. It was Gowon who went Sandhurst. The fall out between Ojukwu and Gowon was not what led directly to the war. What led to the declaration of Biafra and the subsequent war was when Gowon broke the Aburi agreement he and Ojukwu signed.

It is good to have a good Governor who came to work for the people


Anambra ejebego!

Deadlytruth:
Aguyi Ironsi should be posthumously given a national award of dishonour for blocking our path to greatness in this country.

People like you talk out of ignorance. How can you say that Ironsi destroyed the federal structure when all 4 regions that were the federating units of Nigeria were still there up to day Ironsi died? It was Gowon that came in, abolished the regions,took away resouce control, created 12 states and turned Nigeria into a unitary state. Ironsi never abolished the 4 regions! Get that into your head. In the bid of Gowon and his fellow northerners to exercise complete control of Nigeria, they introduced 'divide and rule' by abolishing the regional structure which Ironsi had maintained

I almost laughed my head off when I read the part that said Anioma is Igbo but we are not part of the SE, we have natural boundary. What is this natural boundary? Brigadier Nwawo,Lt. Colonel Chukwuma Nzeogwu, Colonel Nzefili, Colonel Okwechime,Colonel Ochei, Major Isichei,Colonel Achuzia,Colonel Chude Sokei and many others are proud Delta-Igbo sons who fought for Biafra. I don't like the fact that some people will just gather together and start claiming to speak for all Delta-Igbos. Let Anioma people speak for themselves!

An old Leopard cannot change its spots. Buhari ran one of the most draconian military regimes in Africa. He was unceremoniously removed by Babangida in a palace coup. Having tasted power, Buhari just could not get over the fact his stay in Government house had been cut short after just two years and he vowed to return. As far as I'm concerned, Buhari came to complete his military regime.....................

McDoe:
I am a little confused about our leaders especially past and present Presidents. Methinks, a President of a nation is that nation's symbol of unity, love and patriotism. But as it stands here in Nigeria, reverse has been the case.
Considering their appointments, utterances and body languages, has any of our leaders been able to possess, demonstrate and walk the above qualities?
What are those qualities that you can beat your chest and say President Buhari has to move us forward?

Ordinarily , a president should be a symbol of unity but it depends on the personality and body language of the president. It should be noted that whoever is president, there will be a section of the country that will not be happy with that man. It takes a special type of president to reach out to friends and foes, admirers and detractors, political enemies and supporters in the interest of nation building and that type of President is rare. Nigeria has never had that type of president and probably never will.

Giving the poorest 5,000 was not a bad idea. All rich nations have a welfare system to cater for the most vulnerable in their soceity. However, the idea was a bad one for Nigeria. Where did APC think it would get the money for such a jamboree? Also, just how did they think they were going to implement it? It was a good idea but a bad idea for Nigeria

This picture looks a bit strange. This is not the usual dressing of Boko haram, but that is not to say it is not them.

dtruth3:
I swear Bubu is a confirmed confused Nincompoop!
I saw that news on AIT and I was like why did Allah decide to punish this man with deteriorating brain cells?

Imagine the hypocrisy? Supporting others for self determination, while refusing the one happening at your back door?


Now I believe something is wrong with his BRAIN! It's either he is an Idiat, or he is really an Idi.ot

The man is an epitome of hypocrisy. Surporting independence of his Muslim brothers in Palestine and Western Sahara while shooting Christian Biafrans at home.

shachris02:
seriously, stop disgracing yourselve. Have you seen shekau shoot anyone before? has anyone seen shekau shoot a soul before? if kanu is free to say anything, shekau should be free to say anything too.

Shekau is free to say what he likes just like Kanu but like I said, the talk has to be backed by action for any crime to have been commited

Shekau has been seen carrying different weapons in his video, Kanu has not.

Shekau leads an organisation that has killed people, IPOB has killed nobody.


Different acts of terrorism has been attributed to Shekau and Boko haram, no act of terrorism has been attributed to Kanu or IPOB.


So besides Kanu talking, what can you say Kanu has done to viewed as a threat? No matter how much you think about it, a person cannot be jailed for "talking"

shachris02:
you are nearly smart bro. e remain small. do you know what is called intent? you know what? we shouldn't prosecute terrorists till they have dutifully carried out their attacks then we can then arrest them. ishi aki.

Your problem is that you don't know that freedom of speech is enshrined in your constitution. That freedom of speech allows you to say you want to kill people and burn down Africa. As long it has not gone past 'mere talking', you cannot be held accountable. Kanu is free to say anything he likes and he is protected by the constitution.

Well, if 'talking' has become a crime, you might as well call for trial of everybody. Sorry, the law does not recognise spoken words to be criminal unless they are backed up with action. This thread is nonsense

Nobody should kid themselves here. The three main ethnic groups despise each other, so where is the Nigeria we are talking about? As an Igbo man, I absolutely loathe the Hausa/Fulani and despise the Yoruba man. These people are not my brothers just because the British said so. Nigerian unity is a myth, a mirage that never existed. So what is the solution? From an Igbo perspective, I want my own region, I want autonony to govern myself, I want the right to declare my own independent nation if I feel that Nigeria is not right for me. This can't be too much to ask considering that less than 150 years ago, neither the Yoruba or Hausa man hardley knew who the Igbo man was, but they the ones screaming loudest about being my brother today. Until we return power and autonomy that was stolen from the indigenous people of the land by Lord Lugard, there will always be bad blood.

PassingShot:
When IPOB touts are defeated with superior reasoning, they lump issues together or resort to insulting.

Kanu don enter a journey of no return.

FYI, I like to live separately from you guys but I implore you to find reasonable means to achieve your secession. Not threatening our peace.

What superior reasoning? That you accept you must be a Nigerian because a British criminal called Lugard told you so, but reject the fact that it is the right of indigenous people of the land to decide what their country should be? That's the reasoning of a slave.

Hanendez:
Lately, it does appear that the Biafra nationalistic and separatist sentiment rennaisance and uptick is a bandwagon ideology.Hence it has become imperative to pose soul searching questions to agitators.These questions should come in form of a test of the knowledge and groundedness of the agitators and protestants with regard to the Biafra struggle.I'm of the view that almost 85% of the horde are in this struggle just for the sake of not being "left out" of what everyone is doing.Some are in it due to the sense of disillusionment and disenchantment with the establishment which enveloped the psyche of the South Easterners and South Southerners as a consequence of having lost out in the last Presidential election.Prior to the commencement of the said election, the propaganda machinery of the then ruling party had portrayed the opposition candidate in the light of being a Barbaric,Uncouth,unlettered fundamental bigot and an islamist expansionist who should be demonised.Some in the machinery even went over the top by buying front pages to hoist his image alongside former presidents who died in office as being the next to die in office.But against all odds, the opposition flag bearer emerged victorious in what was almost a landslide.The seemingly lopsidedness in appointments into key government positions and portfolios have in no little measure contributed in the "we against them" mentality which is now rife among the agitators.Then emerged a certain young chap with a charisma and mojo which can only be rivalled by the late warlord Odumegwu Ojukwu, in the person of Nnamdi Kalu.In him the people of Southeast found a voice and the will to dare to be the voice if dissent.Yet many have not sat to count the cost of persecuting a war.The human cost was in the region of 3million after the last bitter civil war.The age range of most of the agitators is between 16 to 45.Showing that most didn't exist in 1967.But if you still feel the sense of compulsion to keep the agitation on,you can only be justified if you know the man in this photo.But if it turns out you do not know this man,then you have no right to disturb the peace.

So you expected us not to know who 'Hannibal' is? Do you know that my father fought under this man in the Onitsha sector of the Biafran war?

EastLebanon:
Hmmm...so awolowo really attempted a coup,that's interesting.

I akways knew that there was a good reason why Awolowo was sent to jail for treason.

Forget Yorubas, besides Fayose and FFK, the rest of them are 'a$$ lickers' of the North.

10 months is enough time for any serious minded government to initiate and complete at least one capital project. Unfortunately, it is Buhari we are talkng about here, so besides how many IPOB, Shiattes and Niger-Delta people his administration has killed, there is nothing to post

Ifeanyi Uba should start watching his weight. To be a billionaire does not mean you have to over eat.

Udmaster:
Are Igbos the one killing people in Agatu, Benue, the Middle belt, Lagos etc ?
where exactly are Igbos inciting violence, biko kwa nu?

Forget the OP. Anyone in Ibadan with half a bottle Ogogoro and an Internet enabled phone thinks they know what is best for Igbos these days

Standing5:
If oil stops flowing, the North wins. They have food, clothing, shelter, drug industry and basic needs. The south on the other hand are overall dependents on the North for food. With the money the south so much depend on gone with oil the North simple wins.

You are a dreamer. The South depends on the North for food? You think the places to buy good in Africa have dried up?

Rochas is a disgrace. The APC Government he belongs to is killing unarmed people but he will not speak against this injustice. He deserved what he got in London

T9ksy:
@ bolded................Exactly!!! That's why we shouldn't have been in the same country with these people in the first place.

Discerning minds warned against it then but myopic and greedy covetous folks thought they can outsmart them and now we are all caught in

this silly quandary. Even after the kano massacre, they were still salivating at the prospect of dominating in the emerging country.Little did they

know........................

Don't you get tired of this 'revisionist history' you keep making? There isn't anyone alive that doesn't wish they could invent a time machine and go back into the past to change certain things with the benefit of hindsight. They say it was Igbos that introduced military rule, but it was others who sustained military rule for over 30 years. You say that we might not have been one country with northerners if not for Igbos but it is your people who are today the biggest supporters of 'one Nigeria' with them. Some people are more interested in who started something and careless who kept it goIng. Don't you people have any sense of self determination? So because something is started, it must remain? I laugh in Igbo

Fadekebisola:
who thinks so as well....i have painstakingly watched the video and can say that there is no king in igboland....
lgbos are too stubborn to my liking

Sorry bro but Igbos are too egalitarian to 'worship' monarchs. This is one thing that is different between Igbos and others. It is not possible to have an 'Iku baba yeye' or a Sultan of Sokoto in Igboland.

The young man who confronted Rochas in London did the right thing. The murderous and dictatorial APC regime of Buhari that touts its self as a beacon of democracy has killed too many people in just a short time. How can anyone support the killing of unarmed protesters? It is quite shameful that people who claim to be civilised cannot speak up about this evil that is happening. The dictator called Buhari was on Aljazeera less than a week ago and showcased himself to the word as a hypocrite by refusing to view video footage of his security forces killing unarmed people. APC is a disgrace to mankind and so is Rochas!

This news made my day. That guy is a hero!