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pjosh1:
Let's truly ask our self this question. I remember one of the first sentence that stuck in my brain as a kid "Naija go beta", till now the same Naija neva beta. My brothers let's be sincere, what do you think? I know say many of una for don hear this statement "Naija go beta" even before i was born.

Until Lord Lugard comes back

And Nigeria is an even bigger scam of Lord Lugard

laudate:
Continue wallowing in your stupidity...

You couldn't even get Chidi to tell you how say that in Igbo.


But seriously, how do I get to Mapo Hall? Is it in Mapo?

He was stoned? I can almost hear him say

" A veritable conundrum resulted in a missile trajectory being amplified in my direction!"

laudate:
Idiot!! I said it before...your destiny is tied to this so-called Omole area in Ibadan. That is why you do not want to pack your bags and head for Biafra.

I bet you are one of those people that say: "My mama tell me say I be Igbo." Silly twerp! It is obvious that your spoken and written Igbo is mediocre, that is why you responded in this manner. Ask your so-called Chidi to give you tutorials, anuofia!

Onye eberibe. If you don't understand that phrase, I would be more than glad to break it down for you.

Gịnī ṇà-akpā gị? What are you still waiting for?? Pack your bags and head for Biafra!

If I ever visit Ibadan, how do I find Mapo Hall?

laudate:
Your stupidity knows no bounds. Why are you asking about the weather?? How is that my business, you efulefu??

I have told you to provide proof that Laudate is from Ibadan. You have failed to do so. Now you are further showcasing your stupidity by asking about Omole axis of Ibadan. Is that where you live?? No wonder, you are still committing serious blunders on this thread. It appears your destiny is tied to Ibadan.

Ife i kwùlù kpàlù ̣ọchì. Why haven't you packed your bags and gone to Ala'Igbo to join the demonstrations in Aba, in order to actualise Biafra??

Onye eberibe!! The funds spent on your education was wasted. Pity.

This must mean that it didn't rain in Omole after all? So much false information on the Internet these days.......


By the way, 'Chidi' your friend didn't teach you Igbo well

TonyeBarcanista:
Dillusion 101....

There was NO IPOB protest in Okrika, Eleme, Emohua etc... The few Igbos that did their scanty solidarity march are NON-indigens of Rivers state. However, we are observing things but our position is well known.

We support Igbos to have their Biafra but we all know where their boundary start and end.

For the Record....

We are NOT anti-Biafrans nor anti-Igbos. We are pro-Us and shall determine our OWN destiny by ourselves and for ourselves.

What is pro-us? And who is 'us'?

laudate:
Mugu!! Your stupidity knows no bounds. Oya, provide proof that Laudate is from Ibadan, you supporter of land grabbers!



Don't mind him. He flunked history and geography courses in school. That is why he fails to realise there are over 150 different tribes in Nigeria, other than the Yoruba. Anyone who disagrees with their Biafran expansionist policy and territorial land grabbing, must be Yoruba, or from the South-west. See the uneducated dolts...

So how is the weather in the Omole axis of Ibadan today? I heard there was rain?

trapQ:
you answered nothing. including others in your struggle without their consent is bad. you said we should speak for our individual ethnic groups. its simple, do the same. leave others out of your struggle. if there's a referendum, they can decide.

Well, it may surprise you to know that Biafra has never been an 'Igbo only thing'. Some people want it to be, but it is not. There are many minorities in the South of Nigeria who are just as tired of Nigeria as we Igbos. There are some of them who if faced with a choice of Nigeria and Biafra, will rather go with Biafra as the lesser of two evils. Niger-Delta isn't a tribe, South-South is not a tribe, Delta state or Rivers state are not tribes. An Efik man or Ibibio man has a stronger connection with Igbos than they do with an Urohbo or Itshekiri man. The map above is the map of the lower a Nigeria and area mapped out for referendum. When the time comes, just tell your people not to participate in the referendum or to vote against it so they can stay in it. Whatever tribe you come from will not make or break Biafra. But to say that your own tribe should not be given a 'voice' to air their view would sound very silly.

EzeUche:
I wish Igbos would learn to ignore threads like this. Is it that hard or do you enjoy such nonsense?

Shame on any Igbo posting in this thread. You make our people look like fools by posting on such nonsense.

You are right about Igbo Igbos commenting on stupid thread like these. Someone opens a thread about things that happened 50 years ago because they have the benefit of hindsight but the same person doesn't know anything about the challenges of the time. The only reason I sometimes comment on threads like this if for the benefit of those who are open minded and really want to know what really happend back then and to correct any misconception

Thatdave:
Ojukwu is a great man,

But let us remember that he took so many bad decisions during the war:

1. He let them kill Nzogwu the Great! People rumoured that he was afraid Nzeogwu will challenge his authority after the war. Nzeogwu was the man who was determined to wipe Nigeria clean of all the crooked politicians and soldiers as Ghana later did. It was said that he let the soldiers withdraw too soon so that Nzeogwu got trapped at the war front with little troops.

2. He Refused to Quit the war after the first year on seeing that we cant win.

3. He dethroned his generals (because they tried to advise him) and made civilians his war generals! eg. Colonel Achuzia was never a soldier for one day!

4. When the war became so bitter and the Biafran weapons got finished

He would load hundreds of young men into trailers and arm them with clubs and matchettes and dump them at the war front telling them that 'hausas' are fools. 'Kill them all' . The nigerian war tank will just lower its 50s and open fire on 'unarmed' biafran soldiers in the war front!

5. He doesn't plan battles, he just fights with emotion. Everyone who tried to advise him got deposed and thrown into jail. A biafran high ranking officer once narrated in his book that he drove from Enugu to the war front at abakaliki only to discover that Biafran soldiers who were droped by Ojukwu and were facing the Nigerian superior military might punishment didnt even dig trenches. So he ordered them to start digging trenches right at the battle field! This he said prevented the Nigerian tanks from over running the Biafrans on the very first day of battle!

6. He should have more intelligently accepted a truce a year or two before the end of the war when men like Zik, Akanu Ibiam etc advised him it was impossible to win the war.

7. When men finished, he started 'arming' children and using them as his soldiers for battle!

8. Biafran medics never had stretchers from day one, they were called porters because they were often made up of four men who would carry the wounded on their head and run to the rear of the battle field. This was to get worse in the third year of the war as Biafran soldiers left their wounded and fled battle fields!

9. He didnt plan the preparation of the war! He just started fighting with the available resources. He should have got big countries like America and Britain to support Biafra(atleast in exchange of some oil). Gowon for instance agreed with Cameroun not to let Biafrans get weapon supplies from the camerounian border in exchange for the Bakassi peninsula. This alone made the Biafran resistance very miserable.



But above all, he didnt cause the war. He fought for us all. He fought with his resources. He survived. He came back and contested for presidency! Built APGA and gave the Igbos another chance in Politics!

Adieu Ikemba!

. . . more herre http://dwitch.com/dwitches/view/115/the_un_for_givable.html

Few things you should know

1] Ojukwu never started any war, he may have declared Biafra but he did not starting shooting anyone. It was Gowon who declared war and came diwn to the east to fight.

2] Many people ask why Ojukwu declared Biafra if he was not military prepared. Well, Ojukwu had no choice. Ojukwu and Gowon signed an agreement with Gowon in Aburi Ghana to keep Nigeria one, Gowon broke the agreement and Ojukwu declared Biafra. No sentiments there. Anyone who wants blame Ojukwu for declaring Biafra should first blame Gowon for breaking the Aburi agreement.

3] People say Ojukwu did not plan well. This people make me laugh. Do they think that Ojukwu had all the time in the world for careful planning? If someone comes to up to you and slaps you, do first go to your house to 'plan' or do you defend your self immidiately?

4] My father was a Captain in the Biafra Army. He told me the reason why Biafra lost. Biafra did not lose because of any blunders by Ojukwu, no one is perfect, the reason why Biafra lost was because Ojukwu could not ship in Guns, arms and ammunition, food and other essential supplies as much as he wanted due the blockade enforced by British warships. Ojukwu did manage to fly in weapons but it could not be enough by air and it was far more expensive to bring in weapons this way. Had Britain stayed neutral and Ojukwu had the opportunity to bring in war fighting equipment the way he had wanted, Gowon would have kept fighting a fruitless war until Nigeria ran out of money and gave up. It was British Warships that won the war for Nigeria

Brijet:
is it the delta igbos who claim that not igbos?

Doesn't matter if you call them Chinese Igbos, Igbo is Igbo.

Sorry man, I hope that the cut isn't bad? Freedom is not cheap and we all know that Nigeria will fight to keep the British invented fraud call Nigeria going

laudate:
Keep your silly, twisted, ridiculous proposal to yourselves, you land grabbers. Without their permission, you are including Warri, Ughelli and other non-Igbo areas into your map. May God punish whoever drew that rubbish, if he does not erase those towns from your fake map!

This Ibadan man that wants to die on top of Biafran matter. Why don't you just get a tatoo of "I love Biafra" on your forehead so you can rest.

We Biafrans must keep up the protest no matter what! The terrorist Government of Buhari is been exposed to the world for what it truly is!

trapQ:
why didn't the op speak for the Igbo tribe alone?? is urhobos/efiks/ijaws etc Igbo speaking??

hypocrite. you lots should speak for only yourselves too and desist from adding other tribes to your map.

I already answered that question. The map is nothing but a proposal of where a referendum should be held. When the time comes, if you are not happy with Biafra, encourage your people to vote to stay in Nigeria and they will be removed from the map. What is difficult to understand here?

Omololu007:
with what you wrote up there,I can boldly say,,ibos are not ready for biafra

I don't know who 'Ibos' are, all I Know are Igbos

My first speech will be the declaration of Biafra!!

buskie13:
i on behalf of all Niger Deltans...we refuse to join de struggle called IPOB...

On behalf of who? Speak for your tribe and not others. That's how some you carved the western Igbos (Delta Igbos) into your so called Niger Delta and you think us Igbos will let that stand?


This map above is just a proposal of what Biafra will look like. This map is where the SS/SE referendum will hold. When the time comes, those of you who are not happy with Biafra should vote to remain in Nigeria. Biafra is not by force

Okorocha is a traitor!!

Okorocha had better pray that Biafra does not come any time soon because if it does , we are going to deal that traitor ruthlessly

Steven Keshi set up a good team, but they called it "Biafran team"

Annunaki:
This biafran agitation is pure madness, those routing for it really need to get their heads examined.

That's what my ancestors said about Lugard when he was creating Nigeria, look at us today

ekafine:
only on one basis shall we support biafra agitation. if the the capital of the new biafra is sited in akwa-ibom or cross-river then the possibility of achieving biafra is 85% done. we have the capacity to produce resources to build a biafra that will stand dubai and asian tigers. we have the resources to place the new biafra on the world map to sit side by side with the 8 most industrialized developed countries of the world. we have done it in akwa-ibom with our resources and we shall replicate it in the larger biafra territory. uyo shall be the capital of the new biafra republic.

I'm one of those Igbo who believes that should we get Biafra along with the minorities, the capital of Biafra should not be in Igbo land. Infact, the capital will be built from scratch just like Abija

EUROBOMBER:
The reason why the north fought to keep Nigeria one was because of crude oil. The Nigerian civil war was actually fought for the control of oil as Nigeria could not afford to allow the Igbos 'run away with their food.'

I read a thread yesterday where Kachikwu said that they are at the verge of discovering crude oil in the chad basin.

If the north discovers oil in commercial quantity then the end of Nigeria might be in sight. This is because the north will not bother to fight the Igbos again for crude oil as they would see that as unnecessary.

I even believe that if the north discovers enough crude oil in their region, you will hear them shouting 'Arewa Republic!' I personally believe that if the oil had been in the north all these years like the Niger Delta have suffered, they would driven southerners away as infidels and not wanted.


Just my thoughts I am sharing here.

Even if they find Oil in the Chad basing, it may be a dead venture on arrival. In other to extract oil in commercial quantity, you need to bring the big players in the Oil sector like BP, Shell, Chevron etc. They are the ones with the technical know how, big equipment and personell needed to get that Oil out. This Chad basing is a hotbed of sectarian violence and Boko Haram. There is no international investor who will want to step foot there.

There is no going back on Biafra!! We Igbos must be free of the burning house of Lugard called Nigeria

Ioannes:
see this one o. hate speech is not a crime abi?

what about inciting others to violence against a state.

he should thank his god that its not in another country, they probably woûld havè shot him by now

You can incite someone to violence against a state but if the action is not carried out then there is no crime. Have you listend to hardcore gangster rappers? Some of them incite people to commit all manner of violent crimes from armed robbery to rape in their music. Have you ever heard about any of them being arrested for what they say on their songs? Inciting a person to violence is not a crime.

jpphilips:
Well, on the internet you may be right, where I am in PH, your ignorance stink!!
Aboriginal Igbos in Rivers state occupy just one Local Government out of 23, if 1/23 gives 70% by your mathematical standard then I am afraid you need to go back to school.
No doubt there are Igbos in PH just like Lagos but referring to them as aboriginals or "indigene" is very ignorant of your thought process, Igbos in Lagos are indigenes too right?

Even if aboriginal Igbos occupy one local Government in Rivers, they are indigenes. What I said was that in 70% of the indigenes of Rivers state is made up of Igbos, Igbo speaking people and Igboids

phrankchek:
I'm from abia state, born and brought up in ABA. and i believe that in any chaotic atmosphere it is proper for a man to retreat and put brains ahead of balls. the events i witnessed in my state between 2014 and 2015 makes me to really shake my head when i see the kind off behavior some igbo youths exhibit in face of situations that require thorough articulation. nevertheless there is a new brewing issue in this part of the country "the biafra emancipation". i don't know if these protesters have considered certain factors before joining the band-wagon anyways i think if they reason the following they MIGHT have a rethink.

1. the igbos are divided among themselves: yes they are! in a kindred if someone is really progressing the kinsmen starts to get jealous it is pure igbo thing and that is one thing that brings enmity among them. in the political scene igbos don't go with one voice because they want to compete among themselves at the end no one outshines the other. if para venture one gets to the top he forgets the other. example in the first republic two igbo men were president and senate presidents - Nnamdi Azikiwe and Nwafor Oritzu respectively in the second Dr Alex Ekwueme was Vice president from 1999-2007 we all know how many igbo men were senate presidents in the fourth republic and how they helped "improve the region" with their positions. recently in my state. prior to the last governorship election two igbo men (brothers) divided the state into two lives were lost, people were threatened and intimated one wont bow for the other to go through if they have had the interest of the common man at heart. so now tell me how do you think a man from Nsukka will feel if an Ngwa man is a president (in biafra)?? obviously he will still come up with the argument "he is favoring the ngwa people and neglecting nsukka people.

2. no igbo elite or technocrat has voiced support for the IPOB movement: notable igbo elites like the ubas....nnamanis...ezeifes...ekwumes...etc have kept mum on the whole issue that have not even ringed any bell in the protesters eye, because these men know what to do with their time and resources. while young and vibrant though poor and ill-educated are brainwashed to join the course. if they are in unionism at least igbo lawmakers at the national assembly and other top and influential igbos would have devised their own means of protest.


3. CALLING NIGERIA A ZOO AND YOU ARE INSIDE IT! i think this nnamdi kanu guy has a strong hold on these people's brain he was in London through his radio started calling Nigeria a zoo and some certain people he called monkeys and baboons and funny enough the igbos are scattered all over the country are doing business with monkeys and baboons, the groundnut,sugar,millet,wheat onions etc... that you eat you bought them from baboons and monkeys and wait the monkeys and baboons as they said have been ruling Nigeria since independence?? so who are the real animals now in a zoo?. because me i have not seen a zoo were animals rule over human beings and the human beings are begging the animals to grant them them freedom. like seriously

4. using abusive and hate speeches on certain religious group: i understand that the man told them that biafra is not or rather igbos are Jews and as such they shouldn't be Christians rather they should embrace the Jewish religion i guess he achieved these by criticizing certain Christians denominations and their doctrines....so how will they get the religious or spiritual support??

5. failure to perceive reality....their then vice president already declared that "the republic of biafra henceforth ceases to exist" back in 1970 and "we are part of the one indivisible country - nigeria" at least that's one accord that have made the FG and the international community as some group of people that are misguided. again of all the south east states that enjoy the 13% derivation as oil producing state, how many have shown any reasonable or tangible legacy achieved with the incentive?? and i believe is wrong for one to say igbos/biafrans are marginalized in this country, very wrong since the end of the civil war till date which position have the biafrans not enjoined? if the south south is part of biafra then is clear that the previous president is a biafran!. hence what question being raised by the biafran movement movement haven't received a soothing answer yet?

the igbos are their own problem, if nigeria has a really bad economy that nothing can work why then has the likes of orji uzor, ifeanyi uba, cosmas maduka, tony elumelu, arthur eze, uche ogar and co who are pure igbo men thrived in that economy? that you have not made it in life is not a reason for you to blame a country those that are making it did they agitate for biafra before they became what they are today!
men lets drop the placards and face reality....don't forget brains before balls....i am chekwas and i just want to make common sense.

1] Yes Igbos are divided, but is every ethnic group in Nigeria. I'm sure that even in your own family, there is some sort of division. There is no such thing 100% unity any where in the world. One of biggest causes of Igbo division is Nigeria its self.

2]Of course the technocrats, businessmen, politicians and so on won't come out publicly to identify with Biafra. Some of them are the ones benefiting from the rot called Nigeria. You expect an politician with his eyes on money and power to support Biafra? Another thing is that that those of the elite who secretly support Biafra cannot come out to publicly do so because of fear of persecution. Nigeria is an oppressive state and identifying with Biafra can bring disastrous consequencies. Biafra is not an elitist movement.

3]Calling Nigeria a zoo is an figurative expression of thought. Evey Nigerian has called Nigeria much worse names than this when things are bad. The fact that Igbos are scattered about everywhere does not mean they necessarily be in the same country with those people. I have done business with a Chinese man, I have done business with an Indian man. But I do not want to be a Chinese or Indian citizen. I don't see why I have to be a Nigerian citizen to do something mutually beneficial with a Yoruba and Hausa man.

4] You may not believe it but hate speech is not a crime. Nobody gets charged to court for making hate speech. The constitution allows us all freedom of speech, wether it be hate or not.

5]The only reality on the ground is that it is not for Lord Lugard to come from Britain to make the Igbo man a "Nigerian". It is the God given right of us Igbos to decide who we are. Wether Biafran or Nigerian.I do not believe that the Igbo man is better of in Nigeria than Biafra. The Igbo man gains nothing from Nigeria. Nigeria is a forced marriage and we Biafrans want to get out of it.

I got the same when I dug my own well. But sometimes it can be annoying because it can mess up the water. All of Enugu is sitting on one of the biggest Coal deposit in the world

sobmos:
you see why I said you still don't have sense? So Ojukwu didn't start the war? What was he expecting when he single-handedly divide a country? He expected to be left alone abi? And the Nigerian government should applaud him for a job well done? Come on! Think about it. This Biafra thing is annoying. Who's disturbing the ibo people here in Nigeria? That's why I said only the masses will be clamoring for this trash,a rich man making his billions in Lagos,ibadan or abuja will never pray for Nigeria to divide. Get sense.

And that's why I told you to go and read Nigerian history well. Yes, Ojukwu expected to be left alone! Same way a man who divorces his wife expects to be left alone.Do you think one man can divide Nigeria? Do you think that Nigeria at the time was a 'Rosy' place and Ojukwu came out of nowhere and declared Biafra? Things were very bad at the time and the Eastern Nigerian consultative assembly representing the indigenous people of Eastern Nigeria mandated Ojukwu to negotiate a confederation for them. Which was what Ojukwu did with Gowon in Ghana and both men signed the agreement to keep Nigeria one. When Gowon broke the agreement, the same assembly mandated Ojukwu to declare Biafra.

People own the land, the land never owns the people. The same indigenous people that make up the old eastern region owned their lands long before Lugard came to create Nigeria 'by force' and if those people say they don't want their lands in Nigeria any more, who is Nigeria to say no? Who was Lugard to come all the way from Europe to make you and I Nigerians? Ojukwu was justified in declaring Biafra because that's what his people wanted. Nigeria can never be as important as the various people who make it up and if any of those people choose not be part of the 'house of Lugard', it is for the Nigerian Government to either respect the wishes of the people, or come the negotiation table or conduct a referendum. It is not for the Nigerian Government to decide who is a Nigerian or not and come and start shooting up the place

oluwafemi113:
Dear biafrans I support ur struggle 100% but
my problem is ur approach. I would want to
suggest the following procedures and i can
assure u its going to work out successfully. if
u can unite and follow the following steps
then i can tell, welcome to the Republic of
Biafra in advance.
STEP 1
withdraw all ur services from Nigeria and
render the Nigerians as u are the backbone of
the country
STEP 2
Withdraw your kinsmen who are public office
holders e.g Ike Ekweremadu, deputy senate
president, Peter Obi the D.G of S.E.C
STEP 3
Reject all the ministerial nomination from the
so called Nigeria.
STEP 4
Endeavour to reject Federal Allocation. u re
very industrious people u will be better off
without it
STEP 5
Stop all form of importation through the
Nigerian sea port so that Nigeria will crumble
without ur Tax
STEP 6
Recall all your sons and daughters from all
parts of Nigeria to relocate to home untill this
fight is over then Nigeria can beg them to
come back as expatriate
STEP 7
Lock up all ur shops in idumota, Alaba
international, Kano main market, and every
other market even in the remote villages
accross the country.
STEP 8
Go beyond closing of the Niger bridge stop all
Nigerians from buying or selling in Onitsha
Main market or Ariaria market in Aba.
STEP 9
Make sure u make ur Visa very hard for
Nigerians.
STEP 10
This fight can be achieved without Violence
just like south Sudan. Finally, make sure u
dont fight it with weapons.
Igbo kwenu!!! hee!

You seem to forget that Igbos did all these things in 1967 when they declared Biafra. It still did not stop your Nigerian Government from shouting 'one Nigeria' all over the place and coming down to the east to make war.