₦airaland Forum

Sammy07:
Oga keep shut
if Aguyi didn't Issue the decree.
Gowon won't even know or remember that we need to spit the regions into states.

A lot of people like talking nonsense even when the evidence is before them. Decree 34 only unified the civil service. It did not tamper with the structure of Nigeria or the revenue sharing formular

So if Gowon came along and decided to abolish the 4 Region, create states, take away resource control and change the revenu sharing formular, why then call Ironsi? Did Gowon come to make things worse or better?

People should start using their heads and stop accepting the age old lies the Lagos/Ibadan under the bridge media have been dishing out for years

Decree 34 has been shown to you here. Point out where Ironsi took away resource control or abolished the Regions or cancelled fiscal federation

If you cant, close your mouth and use your data for something better

Pimpmaride:
Every body knows ironsi decreed unitary govt..

Gowon capitalized on it...

There is nothing like unitary rule if there is resouce control, both do not sit together. If Ironsi allowed resource control, then he couldn't have introduced unitary rule.

True federalism is all about resource control

ipodstinks:
Why did he change to unitary system Mr hypocrite.

Why didnt those who have been ruling since the 54 years he died change back the system Mr hypocrite

dignity33:
Aside appointment of military governors of provincial group by National military government I see no different from this our present constitution.

You present constitution has states, there were no states during Ironsi's time

Your present constitution does not have resource control, there was full resource control under Ironsi

You present constitution does not have fiscal federalism, there was fiscal federalism under Ironsi


Ironsi was the only military ruler who kept the constitution of Nigeria as close to the independence constitution as possible.

The only thing this unification decree did was unify the civil service.

Only ignorant people say that Ironsi introduced unitary rule in Nigeria

Everybody knows it was Gowon who did that

dignity33:
Aside appointment of military governors of provincial group by National military government I see no different from this our present constitution.

The unification decree did not tamper with resource control, it did not change the revenue allocation formular, it did not remove fiscal federalism, it recognised the 4 Region's

So how did this decree introduce unitary rule?

The only thing this decree did was unify the public service workers

Southern Nigeria has the SW/SE/SS zones. One of these 3 zones are well known traitors that have sabotaged Southern unity. We all know the zone I'm talking about.

anungangampu:
Ironsi was there for only 6 months... And you cant change what he did for 56yrs. He was even murdered for same and those who came to change it rejoiced then but later after 56yrs they are still complaining of a man who did not even live to explain his intentions.

Is black people cursed or just stupid

They are still calling Ironsi's name, a man who ruled for only 6 months. They have been ruling since 1966 and did far worse than Ironsi.

During Ironsi's time, there were 4 Regions, there was resource control and there was fiscal federalism

All 3 disappeared under those who took over from Ironsi, yet they are still calling Ironsi despite the fact that they 1000 times worse than him

Osaze007:
Gowon built on it
But Ironsi introduced no propaganda can change such

Gowon did not build on anything, Gowon introduced military rule by creating states and taking away resource control

Osaze007:
What were they planning to do ?
How would they have shared resources as they were the poorest region in Nigeria then

Only an ignorant person will say that Ironsi imposed unitary system on Nigeria, it was Gowon that did that. Unitary system cannot exist where there is resource control and there was full resource control in Ironsi's regime

May all those who want freedom eventually achieve freedom

udoka2013:
gbam! Sowore was termed a coup plotter while kanu a terrorist, conclusively boko haram a repenter. Hmm! Is this not shit hole?

Sowore and Kanu did not take up arms like these Boko Haram members but they were treated worse

Chii59:
Arrest "revolution now" peaceful protesters
Kill ipob peaceful protesters
House and feed "repentant" Boko Haram

Nigeria is a failed state.

Thats it. As long you're a Northerner, you will get preferential treatment. But if you are a Southerner like Sowore and Kanu...............

PHAYOL81:
Exactly the mistake the Igbos keep making everytime. Not all people are your enemies but you guys keep seeing and making everyone else as one. Present the bill, first. I can't promise you that in two, three years it would be passed but overtime, if you keep playing right, if you keep pushing for it, you'll get some friends and boom, it becomes a reality. Consider that you gather the SS, with the middlebelt (many of whom would support a breakup if you play nicely) and finally, able to gather the support of the Yorubas. It's already a wrap then. The population would surpass the north and the others remaining by the time we get to the polling booth to vote for the change.
One thing I'm certain about the Yoruba is that they are neither here nor there. It's the Ibos politics of old and the hate of the present that are responsible for the way the Yorubas are treating everything the Igbos are putting out. After all, the break away of any region would mean the Yoruba breaking away as well. No damn shiiiit to wait behind for.
I'm a Yorubaman and I don't see the reason why I should hate most of my Ibo offline friends but there are some who would throw jibe at you because they are pro-Biafran. So it begs the question, is hate a part of the genes? They make it look like the Yorubas hold their existence and that unless they go about badmouthing you and everything you do, they ain't gonn get their lives back. I see most of that online too and it's bullshit. If you want freedom, work for it, don't just sit down to talk, shout or cry about it. If you don't present it, how would you be so sure who your friends are.

We have heard this story many times, "present a bill on referendum, lobby forever to get it passed". The same reason why a bill on referendum wont pass is the same reason why a bill on restructuring will never pass, the numbers to get either one passed dont exist. Even if one managed to get the entire South and the NC to support either bill, which in its self would be a miracle, the 13 states in the core North(NW & NE) control about 40% of the national assembly. Where on earth will anybody get the two thirds majority vote needed?

Its a total waste of time

ezenwajosh:
What did ojukwu went to aburi to discuss with Gowon in far back 1967


Igbo people will not kill themselves because they want Nigeria to move forward


Gowon is still alive no media is willing to ask him

Is it true that aburi accord is the same with RESTRUCTURING?

The Aburi accord was the same thing as restructuring. It made the centre weak and made the Regions strong. When Gowon returned to Nigeria, he realised that if all the Regions controlled their resources, it would make it impossible for tye North to dominate Nigeria. So Gowon broke the agreement, abolished the 4 Regions, created 12 states and took away resource control.

Area4Area:
Since you can't get your referendum and secession using your legislative power, what is your next plan?
Continue complaining and crying everyday?

Of course. Doing something is better than doing nothing

candidtalk:
Nonsense. The fact is that Kanu was a jobless loser, yahoo boy and layabout who deliberately joined the Biafra struggle with the aim of becoming rich leveraging on the hate everyone knows Igbos have for others.

Ask yourself why Kanu is more popular and worshipped than Uwazurike etal.

It is because he is by far the most incendiarily hateful of all Biafra agitators. He insults others and provokes hate against them. He is first a hate preacher before anything else and Igbos loved this about him. No surprise Kanu became wildly popular after targeting Yorubas with his hate speech.

Igbos keyed into Kanu's approach and message more than any other. Not rocket science but a disgrace and shame to you Igbos.


http://www.citypeopleonline.com/nnamdi-kanu-homeless-met-london-uwazurike-calls-kanu-opportunistic-coward/

You should even be hailing Kanu for only being hateful and insulting of a Nigeria that has never worked as a nation nor shown people love. A Nigeria that has massacred his people since 1945.

Others like OPC, Niger Delta Delta militants, Boko haram and killer herdsmen dont have time for hate or insult. They took up arms and killed people. Some of them are still killing people to this day. So if Kanu is only expressing hate and insult in a country where others are killing people, he should be commended for showing restraint that does not go beyond words.

For many Igbos like me, we are tired of Nigeria and just want to go our way as a separate country

candidtalk:
Curfently unemployed and recieving social welfare benefit in the UK. That amount is boosted by stipend and 'donations ' from mumu Biafrans and dumb IPOBians worldwide lol.

All hail Kanu the jobless scammer and Oba awon Igbo. He should be awarded the master of all mumu button masters. Man's got most Igbo folks mumu button on speed dial lol.

Do you know how embarassing it would be for Nnamdi Kanu, who leads an organisation of millions of members home and abroad, to still be be going to work? How can that person have a 9 to 5 job and be leading such a group? Just a single IPOB member out there can tell Kanu to not to work, focus on Biafra, and foward his monthly upkeep to him.

This is a group the Federal Government recently revealed was spending almost $100,000 monthly on propaganda alone. Only a fool will still be asking what the leader of such a group does for a living

Simplyleo:
Meaning "pushing for biafra emancipation" is more paying and comfortable than "9 to 5" job.

Well if you think that being charged to court for treason, spending almost two years in Kuje prison and having your house invaded by Soldiers shooting everywhere in operation python dance is comfortable, then maybe you have lost touch with reality.

Simplyleo:
Essentially, he has no job.

Would you have a 9 to 5 job if you dont need it? What would be the point of working if someone else has elected to take care of your needs?

helinues:
Is Biafra a business venture?

Contribute money for him to do what? What has he done with the one they have contributed?

They contribute money for him to lead the group that is registered in more than 80 countries worldwide. IPOB dont want their leader to do any other work except Biafra agitation and they take care of him. So what's your problem with that?

Simplyleo:
What does Nnamdi Kanu do for living?

Why would Nnamdi Kanu be doing anything for a living if IPOB are taking of him so that he does no other work except that of Biafra?

Did you really think that a large international organisation like IPOB, with branches all over the world, would allow its own leader to have a 9 to 5 job?

helinues:
So I called Kanu a jobless mofo and one of his supporters accusing me of an hate speech.

Kanu's supporters, what is his current occupation?

Thats a question you need not ask. His members contribute money so that he need not have any other occupation besides that of leading IPOB as an organisation

Mo3891:
Restructuring means different things to different people.. reducing executive list and increasing concorent list is very possible and can happen, everyone at this point knows the FG is too loaded, Devolution of power is possible, resource control on solid minerals is also very possible , state policing is possible

But fact remain 100% resource control is not possible most states are not economically viable b, the whole IGR of SE isn't enough to even cover wage bill and less than 60k barrels of crude can't sustain 30 million people

I don't know how many barrels of Oil is produced in the SE but if it is 60,000 barrels, that enough to pay salaries and scocial services as long as it is the the SE that controls it and keeps the majority of the profit. The idea of restructuring goes beyond Oil, the the same Oil will not save anyone in the long term as it fast losing and will be worthless soon.

The whole idea of restructuring is that everyone should go and develop whatever he has, human or natural.

Anyone who is waiting for free oil money should be ashamed of themselves.

If it is just 1 barrel of Oil that the SE has, we shall still survive. We all survived when Oil had not been developed, we shall survive when it is gone

Mo3891:
Let Igbos stop boring us with Biafra, steps to take to get referendum is in the hands of Ibo lawmakers.. let them sponsor the damn bill and stop boring us with long stupid talks

Sponsor a bill or an act to have referendum as part of our constitution, get it passed and go your fvcking way, alternative move back to east and Start civil disobedience to Nigerian authority


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What would be the point of sponsoring a bill on referendum when it will be the rest of Nigeria that will vote on it? Or is anyone fooling themselves that Northerners and Westerners will vote for Igbos to be given referendum?


Nigeria should be restructured, but Nigeria can never be restructured. Some people dont realise that the North sees very little difference between restructuring and Biafra. If Nigeria is restructured, and every region is controlling its resources, the centre will become weak enough for any Region(s) to break out of Nigeria

Another thing about restructuring is that in other to restructure Nigeria, the constitution must be changed. There is no such thing as restructuring Nigeria and keeping the present 1999 constitution that gives much powers to the federal government. If you see the requirements to change the constitution you will run away.

To change the constitution, not only do you need a two majority in the Senate and house of rep, you also need 2 thirds of the state assembly of all 36 states to vote for it as well. With the core North totally against restructuring and when you consider the constitutional requirements, you find out that it is easier to visit planet Jupiter than to restructure Nigeria

Nigeria cannot restructured, it is simply not possible.

authority2006:
All this bitterness and hate speech means nothing. Not even Jonathan would allow Kanu and his out-of-control teenagers to turn the country upside under his watch. Elections had come and gone, even Jonathan is entering and leaving Aso Rock as he wishes. But you guys are stuck.

Did Kanu's boys do anything different from what revolution now are doing? Kanus boys where just protesting and waving flags in the streets, they were attacked by the security forces just for protest. You Nigerians keot quiet at that injustice. Now that revolution now has been dealt the same way, you people expect everyone to see the injustice you turned a blind eye to when it was IPOB

Lol They laughed when it was IPOB. Now they are at the receiving end

jerseyboy:
Freedom for you, freedom for me. Everywhere in our land, there must be freedom.

History has it's moments and this might just be ours. For centuries our African landscape has been damaged by always the worst form of governance on our planet earth. Our people, too timid, too fearful, too cowardly and frankly too stupid to do a damn thing for positive change.

While our ancestors masked their willingness to live in oppression by hiding behind a myriad of custums and proverbs, our continental has never knowed real freedoms and liberties. That is the type freedoms and liberties sort of taken for granted by citizens in the west. Are we less human than them? Are we created by a lesser God? It is ours to answer these questions.

That we are poor don't mean we cannot be free. The freest people of the world also are the wealthiest. Freedom is wealth.

The condition of Nigeria is over riped for a REVOLUTION. This could be our moment. Seize it. This could be our movement. Seize it.

Let us resolve TODAY to FREE OURSELVES.
Let us resolve TODAY to FREE NIGERIA.

For FREEDOM, LIBERTY OR DEATH.

JOIN REVOLUTION NOW.

Count us Igbos out if it is not about Biafra, we are tired of Nigeria

Pimpmaride:
Kanu ran away and cudnt even attend his parents burial to honor them.... Big shame

You mean like these people that ran away in this video?

Pimpmaride:
U don't av a single sense...

Is this protest a tribal protest?

U guys will just open mouth and spill rubbish.....

I dont care what type of protest it is, the constitution allows everyone freedom to protest. A fact you Nigerians remember when it is revolution now, then forget when it is IPOB.

ORIAYO70:
At least iPod did it and someone ran away, he couldn't even bury his parent...

But Sowore did it was arrested he did not escape to Israel to copulate Olosho
He did it again today, either disrupt or not


Now we see the real coward
Ndi ewu

You mean like in this video where everyone is running away?

They shouldn't have let Murtala Mohammed escape

BlowYourMind:
Don't compare weapon wielding and violent ipob protest with this few peaceful people with no violence tendency.

Yes, their Biafran flags, which is the only thing IPOB carry, is the devastating weapon.