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Nice one, back to your true fatherland. Kaduna is not the fatherland of any Igbo man

Akiintom:
Go check the history of that war. Nigerian government wasn't disposed to all out war against biafra at the outset.

Ojukwu mistook this disposition for weakness on the part of Nigeria. Ojukwu then took a foolish and greedy advantage of this. Proceeded on his campaign to Lagos.

At this point, Nigerian government, had no choice than to descend on biafra the way she did. The rest is now history.

If it ever become possible that biafra confine themselves to SE states, and refrain from claiming anything beyond onitsha Bridge, nobody will give a damn.

Like most Nigerians, you dont know Nigerian history. If knew Nigerian history, you would have known that the war was already on long before Ojukwu headed for Lagos. The Nigerian Army had already invaded Ogoja and Nsukka parts of Biafra. Infact, the war began when the Nigerian Army invaded Ogoja on 6th July 1967. Ojukwu did not start even the invasion of the midwest until about a month later.

Also, it should be noted that this was the Nigerian/Biafran war. Ojukwu was entitled to invade anywhere inside Nigeria including Lagos.

The SE you are talking about is not even recognised by the constitution if Nigeria and can cannot be used as template. If you talk about Igbos and Igboland, yoy will find that Ignos are indigenous to the lower benue, Delta state and Rivers state. States do not make ethnic groups. Igalas are native to Kogi and Anambra samd as Idomas are native to Benue and Enugu state.

dealslip:
Initiate your quest and politely ask for a referendum. Eat which whose cake, IPOB get any cake to offer. Show seriousness by first moving. Nigeria will show seriousness too.

This was done in 1967. All Igbos moved. Nigeria came to the East to fight for 3 years to bring Igbos back into Nigeria. Nobody is repeating that again. Now, Nigeria must agree to Biafra so that next time we move, you Nigerians will not come to the East to fight again like you people did last time.

Nwachineke1980:
All I am seeing are Igbo men bowing down to a fellow Igbo man.what about Yoruba's who have being bowing down to a Fulani emir in Ilorin for more than 300yrs?

How do you know that the men kneeling are Igbo?

'Obi ndia no ha n'azu'

The above is one of the last things she said and should seve as a deadly warning to all Igbos. Only a crazy person wants to be in one country with someone that can get up one day and slaughter him.

My sister, I feel you.

fulanmafia:
Can you see why I said you seriously lack logic?

The North produces nothing yet your kinsmen will rather sacrifice their necks than stop living off the North?

Are you completely ignorant of the fact that KD and Kano alone generates more internal revenue than your 5 states combined? Yet you have the guts to try to undermine the North that is doing better than you? (the figures are there to prove it)

Do you know that all your 5 states are dependent on federal allocations to survive? Are you really ignorant of these facts?

Ibos will be asked to go despite operating one Nigeria because they have expressed their discontent severally and claimed that the North does not want to let it go. Now you have been asked to return to your states and you're still yapping trash. If you're so sure of the viability of biafra you wouldnt wait for anyone to break the country before returning to build your paradise.

You mean you haven't reasoned this before? Do you have spaghetti for brains

Gosh this is the last time I'm responding to you because as I said, you're all emotions and ZERO logic.

You IGR does not mean anything. IGR is not sommething contributed to Nigeria. You pay a small portion of it to the center, if anything at all.

It is crass nonsense for the North to ask Igbos to leave Northern Nigeria while operating on 'one Nigeria'. We Igbos have not forgotten that the last time we left the North to go back home and face Biafra, it was you Northerners that came to the East to fight for 3 years to bring us back to Nigeria. There isnt even a single Igbo man who would fight for a day to be you people.

You people should show you are serious about breaking up this fraud called 'one Nigeria' instead issuing meaningless ultimatums that are retracted after a few days.

You people should put pressure on the Government to grant us a referendum. After the referenfum, and we have an assurance on Biafra, we Igbos can go back knowing that that we will have a Government in place to cater for Biafrans.


Nigeria is as fraudulent as a call for Igbos to go while Biafra has not yet been actuslised.

ernieboy:
and he wasn't even humble enough to insist that the men should sit down to discus with h as equals, this points to an egocentric character with a coloration of narcissism. what kind of Biafra are these dreaming about? is it one where the principles of egalitarianism and equally are the core principles or is one based on principles of dictatorship?

Dont be decieved. In Igbo culture, there is no bowing or kneeling execept in times of prayer (traditional or otherwise). The two people kneeling before Kanu must be doing it for a good reason. Its either they had just finished a prayer secession with Kanu or that the men are not Igbos

fulanmafia:
You're all emotion with zero logic so be glad you were even lucky to get this response.

P.S Your agitation is a scam because you cannot get your parasitic paws off the North despite begging to be allowed to leave the 'zoo'.

What logic dont you understand? That Nigeria is but a mere colonial contraption nobody agreed to? That the Nigerian union is illegal and your constitution fraudulent?

For me as an Igbo man, the Nigerian situation is not from far from kidnapping

Look at Northerners calling for Igbos to go while operating one Nigeria. You guys must think that Igbos are fools. Funny thing is that despite contributing nothing to Nigeria, except sectarian violence, you people are even talking?

Danishguy:
Our people were sold a DREAM, many bought into it, fought for it, faced live bullets, got arrested for it, many lost their lives fighting for it... We can't just lay that on the carpet for restructuring... We won't make your sacrifice FOR YOU.

We no be FOOLS.

Disintegration or Nothing

Restructure what? I always laugh at these people that are talkinging about restructuring. They are the same people that ask Biafrans to go to the national assembly to insert referendum in the constitution. What these people dont know is that they will also have to go to the national assembly to insert restructuring into the constitution. It is not even necessary to insert referendum into the constitution.

The real anger of these Northerners is that they hoped that Igbos would have been like Yorubas by now, singing the tune of 'one Nigeria' while suffering the whims and carprices of the North.


The fact that Igbos are still demanding their independence 50 years after the war is seriously annoying the Northerners. The successful sit at home was the final straw that broke the camels back.

Northerners have never met people like the Igbos. They wish there was a way they could snap their fingers and make all Igbos disappear so that they can continue their economic and political domination of Nigeria unchallenged.

fulanmafia:
What amazes me is that these jokers think they can get a referendum without working for it, without engaging in serious diplomacy to rebuild the bridges that IPOB and their thoughtless & inciting approach have burnt, in order to secure the required majority votes to insert a referendum clause in the constitution. News flash: it will never happen.

The hypocrites will rather give you one million and one excuses why they should be allowed to continue living off the North that they insult, derogate and undermine daily as "backward, unproductive and barren". Shameless parasites.

The emptiness, idiocy, confusion, helplessness and hypocrisy of the biafraud_ agitation is now bare for all to see, thanks to the Arewa youths.

If you have nothing to say then go and sit down. Nigeria is the illegal creation of the white man and nobody is going to refere to your constitution fir a referendum.

Yoy guys are funny. Asking Igbos to go while operating on 'one Nigeria'? Who is fooling who? If all Igbos go back home, that action will still not give them Biafra


There is no going back on Biafra, not now or ever!

Oyinlomobambam:
Why can't you and I love ourselves?
Why can we combine efforts and fight them?
Why do we fight ourselves?
Why do we allow them the freedom we don't have?

Because not all partnerships will work, not all marriages will work.

We call our selves 'Nigerians' but what does it really mean? It means we are just answering the name our colonial masters gave us. The does represent anything.

Igbo/Hausa/Yoruba do not like each other, they never have. I have never heard a Yoruba man say he loves Northerners. I am yet to see any Igbo man say he loves Yorubas as a people.

The only thing I hear is that we should all be together. Why? When we were not together, we did not fight, dislike or kill each other as we have done since the creation of Nigeria.

So what is the point of continuing with a union that has been a hopeless faliure for 57 years?

Its time we stop this charade called Nigeria and went our separate ways

Toketimt:
"CHUMA, I am not a boy like you. I witnessed the civil war and I wrote Igbos: 25 Years After Biafra in 1995. I do not know whether you were born then. I am an adult and I know what I do not know.

If in your wildest imagination you think that I, joe Igbokwe, from NNEWI, Anambra, will join ENUGU, EBONYI and ABIA states in your useless BIAFRA project, you have got another thing coming.

I have 25 reasons why it will not stand. I suggest that we play better politics to survive in Nigeria instead of this defeatism syndrome, persecution complex, leadership complex, childish sense of superiority, paranoid grandiosity.

What is playing out today is the colossal loss of 2015 elections which their JONATHAN did not win. Our people have refused to move on.

You savages have been there when this boy called NNAMDI Kanu was abusing other NIGERIANS with so much hate and ethnic bigotry and you maintained a curious silence. Now that the HAUSA-Fulani have responded what can you say?

No ethnic (community) in this country has a monopoly of abuse, threats and terror.

What we have seen now is a balance of terror, balance of abuse and balance of ethnic bigotry.

But I AM a bit afraid here.

While Kanu and his group may be jokers, I doubt if we can say the same for Arewa youths. I know enough history to know this. We will all learn from this.

One more thing: South East is not the last when compared with other five zones in the country all things considered!"

- Joe Igbokwe

Joe Igbokwe should buy a dictionary and look up the definition of self determination. He might learn a thing or two

vicadex07:
You want to build a country of your own but you don't want to live in it?

Does that sound sensible to you?

What is actually stopping igbos from making the south east highly developed right now as they claim it will be. What exactly is stopping them? Just answer that question...

For the second time, how does all Igbos going back home give them Biafra?

vicadex07:
Stop all the cowardly excuses, this is 2017 not 1967.

You mean you still want to remain in the zoo? Common you are bigger than that. Just pack up and leave with or without referendum if really the course you are fighting is a genuine one.

Besides the onus rests on you to conduct your referendum yourselves because you are the ones agitating for secession. If you are waiting for abokkkis or Afonjas to give you referendum, then you are truly helpless slaves who can never take any action without permission and approval from your masters.

I smell hypocrisy...

Answer this simple question. If all Igbos returned home, how will that give them Biafra?

vicadex07:
IPOB: i hate to be with you, i hate this zoo, free me so i can go my way.
ZOO: okay i have given u ultimatum, you should leave my house, i dont want you to stay any longer.
IPOB: Nooo, i am going no where, i dont want to leave the zoo but i will still agitate to leave.

How logical is this?

Igbos going back home will not give them Biafra. They tried that system in 1967, Nigeria still came down to the East to fight for 3 years to bring them back into Nigeria.

What should happen now is that the North should put pressure on Buhari to conduct a referendum as IPOB have asked, then we can go home

doctimonyeka:
I'm Igbo but this Nnamdi Kanu of a man is a scam...
God created Nigeria, not biafra.. And Nigeria it must remain... This country shouldn't be held to ransom by a nobody who acclaims to be the messiah.. . What rubbish...




God bless Nigeria..

Sorry bro but God did not create Nigeria, Lord Lugard did, and he has gone back home. Its time for us all to do the same as Nigeria has been an absolute disaster.

JohnW2017:
As an Igbo and peace loving individual, I strongly believe that Nigeria should stay united as One Nation.

I live in the West so perhaps I have a biased view.

It is evident to me that all Igbo's are being painted with the same brush as being in support of an independent nation but I would like to state my opposition to that.

In fact, I strongly believe that the reaction from the North is as a result of the sit-in which took place in the East apparently showing solidarity with the secessionists. But I would argue that compliance was not voluntary and that people were afraid to come out.

So, my fellow Nigerians, let us stay together and make Nigeria better together because oil on its own does not make a society better. It is the people who make things better.

I would argue that we are not ready to go our separate ways because we are not at the level of cohesion, success and awareness that is needed first as a Nation. Furthermore, people should not say things they do not mean because they don't know who will take them seriously and act on their words.

It may involve some compromise by different groups but ultimately we need to find a peaceful solution and stop the ethnic and tribal outlook.

Let me tell you this story. Britain created Nigeria. If it was not for Britain, you would not be a Nigerian today, but you would have been Igbo. So how can you place the identitiy the white man brought, above the identity handed down to you by your forefathers? Even if you want to do this, it should the identity you choose for your self, not the one Lugard chose for you.

It may also interest you to know that Britain that created Nigeria granted one of its constituent parts, Northern Ireland, a referendum in 1973. The same Britain granted another of its constituent parts, Scotland, referendum in 2014. If the people who created your country can be open to breaking up, then who are you not be open as well.

You have every right not to agree with Biafra, but you must support people right to self determination

0b100100111:
An attempt to pick up arms is an open gateway to there extinction. There lots will go into oblivion and details about there existence would only be found in history books.

The Nigerian Armed forces in a twinkle of an eye, can easily be manoeuvred against them!

Really? And others that took up arms like the Niger Delta militants and Boko Haram, what could your Nigerian Armed forces do?

The truth is that the day the Igbo nation takes up arms is the day Nigeria will come to an end. No country ever survives two civil wars.

The 30th of May sit at home was a mock referendum on Biafra. We all know how it went.

wirinet:
Another senseless emotional rant.

Which nonsense have the Igbos been dealing with that others have not been dealing with?

What Referendum are you demanding exactly? Is it that Igbos want to leave Nigeria? If that is the case, then you guys need to form political parties with secession as the agenda. You cannot achieve secession with a cacophony of noise on TV, radio and social media.

Look, this has been dealt with many times. The Nigeria you are talking about is the mere artificial creation of the white man. As we all know too well, none of the indigenous ethnic nationalities that make up Nigeria, including Igbos, ever gave their consent for the creation of Nigeria. Odinarily, the British should have held a nationwide referendum in 1960 before the left to ask all those they forced into the union of Nigeria if they want to continue with it. They didnt out of selfish interests.

So asking Igbos to seek a democratic way out of Nigeria when Nigeria was not democratically created is neither here nor there. As far as Im concerned, Igbos are being illegally held in Nigeria

deedeedee1:
Why do we say things like "one nigeria"? I dont hear people say "one yoruba", "one hausa" or "one igbo".
If we are truly one, do we need to say it? If any mod is not comforable with this thread, you can delete it, but abeg no ban me.

This issue was once addressed on Radio Biafra. It is usually countries that are disunited that have to put "one" before the name of the country as a way of validating that country. Take for example China. This is a country that the Government Government constantly referes to as "one China", yet, it is far from united as sections of the country such as Tibet, Hong Kong and parts of Mongolia are agitating to go.

Whenever you see a country using 'one', it is a disunited country.

ODVanguard:
What a pity. See what Igbo Jews like Nnamdi Kanu and his fellow Biafrats have caused the peace-loving Igbo Christians in the North. Kanu, wherever you are, e no go better for you o.

Peace loving christian Ignos in the North? You think the Northerners are thinking about this when they have been massacaring Igbos since 1945? Over one hundred thousand Igbos have been massacred in the North (conservative estimate) since the creation of Nigeria. How many Northerners have been killed in Igbo land? Hardly anybody. Kanu did not cause anything, Igbos should not be doing 'one Nigeria' with Northerners

Stinson007:
Asking Ghana to leave Nigeria and asking Igbos to leave Nigeria on a scale? Am confused?

At least Ghanaians had a country to go back to...................

As a proud Igbo man and Biafran supporter, I have problem with the 'Kaduna declaration' which instructed the Igbos to leave the North by October 1st. At least we had a warning, other times there was no warning when the massacre started. As I said in a previous thread, it is better for one to be back home broke but alive, than to be wealthy in the North but dead.

What Im against is for the Northerners to be asking Igbos to go with one side if their mouth while shouting "one Nigeria" from the other side.

I expect to see visible steps taken by the Arewa youths to encourage the Federal Government to give Igbos a referendum

I also expect total support for Biafra by Arewa.

Presidency has not helped those who have held it in the past and it wont help Igbos either. We must exit this false union called Nigeria regardless of who is president

SSBN:
You probably live in Lagos. Oya you too start packing to Enugu. We are tired of this Biafra Crap. The nation is granting you your wish, please leave Lagos. Go back home and form your Biafra.

The nation is not granting us our wish. Asking people to go back to the East does not mean that the Federal Government of Nigeria has agreed to give Igbos Biafra

naijalander:
Your not making any sense. Was it not Biafra that first invaded Nigeria?

No, Nigeria first invaded Biafra first when it shelled and bombed the Biafran border town of Garkem in Ogoja on July 6th 1967. That is the day the war began

bkool7:
everytime , Yoruba and Hausa killed 3 million igbos .
So igbos didn't kill any Yorubas and Hausas ? Hypocrites !
Was it not a war ?
Why fight a war you obviously can't win ?

please , spear us the sentiment .

it was an avoidable war we all regreted

So the question you should have asked your self if you were intelligent is, what is the point of being together if you have to kill each other in the millions to be united?

Yes, the war was avoidable if Nigeria had not come to the East to fight for useless 'one Nigeria'

Noccerino:
Bottom line is
Anything that affect Ndigbo affects ikwerre and vice versa

Oh yes. Igbos consider Ikwrres as Igbo despite the denial of some of them. An Ikwerre man, Uche Okwuwu, is the current secretary general of Ohaneze. Another Ikwerre man, Solomon Chukwu, is one of the leaders of MASSOB. Nigerians cannot tell Ikwerres and Igbos apart. I can tell that a man is Ikwerre once he opens his mouth and speaks same as I can tell that someone is from Nsukka by the Igbo dialect they speak.

YungMillionaire:
I will also suggest that the new Nigeria (current Nigeria minus Igbos) should carry out a humane deportation of all Igbos who refused to move out after the Igbos get their homeland. If we allow them to stay, they would continue to cause tribalism/division as they are doing right now.

You have to start facing reality, you have no nation. Just because a British opportunist called Lugard came to West Africa, drew a map, and his wife named the place after a River, does not give you a nation.

You have to also respect the right of people to self determination. Even Britain that created this country and made you a Nigerian was willing to break up when it granted Scotland a referendum in 2014. So why cant Nigeria respect the right of Igbos to exit this British colonial creation?

blackberlin:
If a true poll is created today, 90% of Igbos will vote to remain. Those of you shouting have never crossed river niger before. Let's hear word!

Oh you believe that? If the above was true, do you think that amost the entire Igbo land that stayed indoors on the 30th of May to honour Biafra would have done so?