₦airaland Forum

Ekinematics:
Your level of reasoning says it all.
Unity beggar from the east.

Referendum is not begging for unity, it is about choosing. A priviledge Lord Lugard never gave you before he bastardised you with the name of a common River

Ekinematics:
At least the constitution recognise states.
Last time I checked there are 5 landlocked barren erosion laden states in the country agitating for Biafra.

Switzerland is a barren landlocked country of just 8 million people and roughly 20 thousand sq milies.

Yet Switzerland is far richer than Nigeria and a lot more developed. In the committe of nations, Nigeria is not qualified to sit down with Switzerland on the same table.


The moral of the story, I would rather be a small, landlocked and barren Biafra and to strive to be like Switzerland

Than be a big Nigeria with all the Sea ports and mineral resouces but still remain a backward, chaotic, currupt, hopeless case of a country

donleo92:
Number one scenario, if the Nigerian State succumbs to a referendum, it is likely to be restricted to the people of the South East. Nigerian is unlikely to concede the former Eastern Region (which is the definitive geo-polity frequently portrayed as Biafra by its promoters) as the breakaway enclave. It will not give up the oil and gas resources that feed its treasury with free rent.

The constitution of Nigeria does not recognise anything called South East or South South. So Nigeria cannot use this as the bases of a rererendum. What the constitution recognises are tribes. The referendum will be based on tribes.

It is also unlikely that the non-South Easterners will sign to be included in the Biafra. So, it is far safer for the Biafra activists to scale down their geo-political boundaries to a landlocked South East.

As I said before, the Nigerian constitution does not recognise anywhere in Nigeria as 'South East'. So basically, the above does not arise. Besides, Biafra will be decided by referendum.

That being so, I dare say that being landlocked is not the end of the world. Switzerland, Austria, Botswana and Rwanda are landlocked, yet they are either developed or rapidly developing countries within their continents. Those who are predicting doom for a landlocked Biafra could be seriously mistaken. During the war, when the population of the defunct Biafra was largely on the run, there was no fuel scarcity. Biafran scientists created machines and technologies to fight the war and keep the system running.
A peaceful, landlocked Biafra, with the sheer power of the Igbo creative might unleashed, can only take-off like a rocket, though the initial stages will be very trying. Biafra might become the first African country to export the type of technologies that we currently buy from Europe, America and Asia to African countries within ten years. People should always remember that it is not natural resources that make a country great but its human resources of which the Igbo boast one of the most premium qualities in Africa. Even at that, the resources (oil, gas, coal, limestone and others) are there in enough quantities to serve the needs of the republic.

Until the results of a referendum are known, no one should say that Biafra is landlocked

On the other hand, Biafra could run into an initial face-off between factions such as IPOB and MASSOB for supremacy. MASSOB might claim it restarted the struggle that won the independence while IPOB which is far more radical could claim to be the group that won the independence. If this is not sorted out amicably, Biafra could face the South Sudan scenario between President Salva Kiir and his estranged Deputy, Riek Machar, though the South Sudan conflict is mostly ethnic-based as opposed to the fact that Biafra will be a country of a homogenous ethnic stock.

IPOB and MASSOB are not militias. The are freedom fighting organisations and do not bear arms. On the realisation of Biafra, both organisations will become irrelevant and disband since the object of their creation has be achieved.

[Another scenario is that Igbo property left behind in Nigeria will probably be confiscated. States can make laws to appropriate them. That is a sacrifice the Igbos who own property in Nigeria outside the South East must be prepared to make. You cannot eat your cake and have it. Nigerians will likely tell you that "out is out", as the Europeans are telling Britain after Brexit. Igbos who refuse to relocate to their country will be dehumanised as unwanted foreigners. Ndi Igbo, faced with the South East as Biafra, must be ready to start life afresh from the scratch, with the firm determination never to repeat the mistakes that makes Nigeria unworkable.

As I said before, Biafra cannot be South East because the constitition of Nigeria does not recognise anywhere as South East. A referendum has not been conducted to know what areas will constitute Biafra.

Also, whoever said that citizenship is a requirement to own property and investments in another country? You mean that Ayiri Emami cannot own a House in London because he is not British? Can Dangote lose his Cement plant in Tanzania because he is not from Tanzania? Or maybe P-Square will lose their Athlanta House because they are not American? Where in the world is citizenship the bases of owning property? The properties and investments of Biafrans will be protedted by international and domestic laws. They cannot lose it in anyway.

The break away of Biafra will likely lead to a break-up of the rest of this otherwise blessed nation. With a leg of the Tripod gone, the rest of the superstructure cannot stand for long. With the Igbo people gone to their own country, it is unlikely that the Yoruba people will like to live under the servitude of the North. They will become a very vulnerable junior partner to Arewa, a situation they are unlikely to live with for long. They will also want to go and form their own country. They already have fantastic natural geopolitical advantages which they will simply leverage on and move on with their lives. But will the North also allow them to go in peace?

The Ijaw nation, in particular, is likely to assert its independence. The North will, like Biafra, become landlocked. If Biafra goes, there is no way the rest of the country will continue happily ever after.
Nigeria is like an intricately knitted fabric. Cut the thread at any point and the rest will come undone. At this point, we probably have the last opportunity to sort out the problems militating against genuine unity in our country.
Time is running out on Nigeria as we know it. Already, the hearts of majority of Igbo people have left Nigeria. It will take some earth-shaking measures to bring them back.
It has nothing to do with giving them an "Igbo president". If, for instance, the ruling All Progressives Congress, APC, in a most unlikely scenario, picks any of such individuals as Chris Ngige, Ogbonnaya Onu, Rochas or Okorocha Ken Nnamani to stand as a figurehead president, they will call Sokoto, Katsina or Kaduna every morning to take instructions for their daily work. It will make no difference for the Igbo or Nigeria.
There is no alternative to restructuring Nigeria to allow the federating units the freedom to develop at their respective paces within the overall Nigerian commonwealth. The Nigerian people need freedom. That is the irreducible minimum for real change.
If restructuring will not be possible, then let those who believe Igbo people will die if granted Biafra join hands in granting them independence. Allow them to "go and die" and see if they will actually die or become the toast of the African continent within the lifetime of most of us!

When Biafra goes, whatever is left will become Nigeria forever. A lot of Nigerians dont realise that when Igbos and the minorities who are comfortable with Igbos leave Nigeria as Biafra, this will make the North much stronger than they already are. With the Igbos gone, and far less opposition, the rest of what is left will find it 5 times as hard as the Biafrans did, to get out of Nigeria. If anybody thinks that the North is dominating Nigeria now, just wait till the Igbos leave Nigeria. That is when the North will really dominant.

oladeebo:
wail for what?
igbo is the only problem of Nigeria, when they gone Nigeria better!

You mean like how they left in 1967 and you people people came to the East to fight for 3 years to bring them back?

The Norths reply to Radio Biafra?

dienlmods:
All the "we ND and SS have immediately become dumb... All the "Igbo want our oil" have become dumb as well... Well, the North, the owners of the oil have spoken openly, let hear what the so called ND and SS will say

What can they say? When it comes to the Northerners they suddenly become mute. They only find their voice if it is Igbos

jakandeola:
can u fight a war small boy

Why would I need to be fighting? Is 'one Nigeria' by force? Its you Nigerians that like fighting, we Biafrans only want to go our way peacefully.

uyiekpenn:
I honestly don't understand the way the brains of IPOB members function. IPOB and MASSOB are not going about this whole Biafran agitation thing the right way. I have never had a problem with Biafra seceding from Nigeria or any part of the country that would probably want to secede because Nigeria as it is, is not working. They are so many problems facing Nigeria that have not been addressed ranging from incessant killings by the marauding herdsmen, unlawful detentions by the DSS and so many other problems. In my opinion I think the time has come to decide whether we should continue to be Nigerians or go our separate ways.

IPOB and MASSOB on the other hand, should stop this foolish charade of including the South South into the Biafran map. I don't understand the desperation of Nnamdi Kanu and his IPOB followers on why they want South South in their Biafran project even when these people have made it clear that they have no interest whatsoever in being part of Biafra. Even the Igboid groups that share some similarities with the Igbos such as the ikwerres, the Ogbas, Ukwuannis, Ekpeyes and others have repeatedly stated it clearly that they are not Igbos. If these groups you share a lot in common with have rejected you, why do you assume that the Binis, Urhobos, Itsekiris, Ijaws, Efiks, Ibibios, Orons, Anangs, Ogonis, Ogojas, Ishans, Isokos and other that would share nothing in common with you, would want to be part of your proposed Biafra? Don't also forget that these same people fought against you in the civil war.

Please let it be known here by everyone that Biafra land or Alaigbo starts from Asaba, Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and ends in Imo. Any attempt to encroach on our lands would be met with a very brutal, immediate and brutal resistance. This is 2017 and not 1967. What every Nigeria should be agitating for is a total restructuring and total removal of the enemies of our growth as a nation. IPOB and MASSOB you have been warned. I love every group in Nigeria and it is my dream to see us grow.

Is there something wrong with you? Did the over 45 tribes in your so called 'South/South' elect you as their spokesman? So why are you speaking for them? You are blaming Igbos for grabbing other tribes into Biafra but you are doing the same with 'South/South' which is not even recognised by the constitution.

Biafra is not about who is Igbo and who is not. Biafra is about those who want to collectively as Biafrans. So instead of opening stupid threads like this and claiming to be speaking for all the ethnic groups in Southern Nigeria, support a referendum let everyone speak for themselves

jakandeola:
im in pains wen dey release nnmadi kanu cos he want Nigeria to seprate he will be disgrace. wat did ibo want thay they didnr get? we are all one. is we all dat suffer poverty in nigeria hausa yoruba and ibo we all suffer together yet are happy but kanu wish we seprate. let remembering wat happen in 1967 where we fight a war. what happen. did u know dat in war pple will died, no food to eat did u know dat dere wont be peace that u think of sleeping or flexing cos u will be running. did u know small kids will die woman will be rape. I feel pains wen I think of this. ibo dont start a war be wise pls we are one brodas and sisters I love you as u love me . united we stand dibided we fall. sekxy

Another unity begger

madridguy:
WAR IS NEVER THE ANSWER.

Many Nigerians will say this but will start calling for war as soon as they hear the word Biafra.

To this day, many Nigerians still support the use of force to keep Nigeria one. When you ask them why they support force when there is referendum, they will say it is because Lord Lugard made us one. Lol


Why are you telling FFK to shut up? So the Northerners wont massacre Igbos like they have done in the past?

Why do you want to do 'one Nigeria' with people who are capable of massacre? Only a crazy person will want this

omolami:
Why are the leaders or elders of the north so bitter about the igbo extraction. Why giving igbos ultimatum to leave the north? Why are these northerners so wicked and uncompromising. Why do they want war? Why wont the nigerin leaders accept peaceful separation to war/ forcefl separation. Why wont the adminisration go for referendum instead of druming for war. Intollerance of the north is absord and uncalled for. Not only igbos want to leave the north alone, the Oduduwa Republic agitation is there. The norh Centrat agitation is there. The South South agitation is there. Why every section wants to abandon the north? The north must retrace its steps because they seem not to tolerate others. They want to dominate others. Who now is there slaves i ask?

As an Igbo man, I support the Northerners as kicking us out! It shows the world that there is nothing like one Nigeria. This should serve as a warning to people like Joe Igbokwe from misleading some of our people into believing that there is any future in Nigeria.


The only thing I dont understand about these Northerners is that they want Igbos to go while at the same time, they want 'one Nigeria'


How is that one going to work?

Udmaster:
Right from day one, I don't and will never support this IPOB Biafra thing. YES I am a proud Nwa afor Igbo.
It is an agitation borne out of delusion by that albino jewish scammer.
Just take a look at their deluded map! Even they have added kogi and benue to their map.
Oh! Where are the Igbo leaders?
That albino scammer want to put Igbo lives and properties in danger again.
He must be stopped! Pls FG Re-Arrest Nnamdi Kanu again.
Thunder fire that idiot, a scammer who want to risk Igbo lives and properties.
There is danger ahead.
IGBOS Can't fight a civil war again, it will be fatal
why do these Ipobs want to destroy what the Igbos have worked to build up since 1970? Why being bitter that Buhari won an election?
Igbo youths, I beg you, you can't win any confrontation with the North.
Every ethnic group in Nigeria are paranoid and suspicious of Igbos.
if war breaks out, Ijaws, Ogonis, Urhobos, Efiks etc will NOT help you. BE WISE.

You are wasting your time, majority of Igbos suppport Biafra which leaves you in the minority

Nigeria must be de-amalgamated!

mpowa:
I don't know about then, but at least I know now

You guys don't get things in Nigeria because you don't do things the right way

Sincerely I wish Igbos can get their Biafra and go, It won't be victory for Igbos alone, it will be victory for all - Less Noise and agitations everyday, Less enemity and hate speeches, and then they can finally develop their reigions, since they are the 'Developers' helping us to develop our own, Let them go use the expertise their. We really need lesser people in Lagos and some other states.

If you people are serious about Biafra, do it the right way, Let your Leaders Push for the referendum, Your Governors, Your Senators and Representatives, Your Influential people, If they are serious about it, The discussion will move to another level

#But your leaders don't want it
#Your Governors don't want it
#Your Traders and business people don't want it
#Igbos have more to lose in secession that any other tribe in Nigeria because they're the most scattered Both people and investments all over Nigeria
#If you're serious all of you will firstly move back to your regions
#It's an unnecessary agitation to get attention, it's all noise of Marginalization
#There was nothing like Biafra when Jonathan was ruling and people in power were mostly Igbos. Nobody cared then that Jonathan sidelined the Yoruba race, but all of a sudden everyone is shouting Biafra and marginalization when you lost power (Even Nnamdi Kanu was speaking as a 'NIGERIAN' From one of his videos in Uk before Jonathan lost, suddenly Nigeria turned to Zoo after the lose)

If you're serious take the right steps, Nnamdi Kanu and his poor IPOB youths cannot achieve anything tangible than causing obstructions and becoming a mild Boko Haram.Get the attention of people who shoould be pushing the cause and you will achieve it.

I see. What referendum made you a Nigerian? Where did you leaders push for a referendum so that you can be a Nigerian today? You are advicing Biafrans to seek referendum while accepting the fraud that made you a Nigerian. You are telling Igbos how to go about getting out of a fraudulent British colonial contraption they never formally agreed to be part of?

Nigeria is but the illegal colonial creation of the white man and we Igbos and the minorities who are comfortable with us make no apologies for seeking to exit the failed British contraption called Nigeria.

The onky sense you made was that there should be a referendum

donborg:
You are very funny. Any man can do what he did if given the opportunity, but no sane igbo man will be willing to let 3.5 million people to die for his beliefs, I mean, whom will you rule at the end?. people like you call jonathan a coward for conceding defeat, but jonathan is head and shoulders above your hero ojukwu times 10. why? because he relinquished power to save the lives of his people! if he wanted a second term, he would've got it,No power on earth could stop, but he also knew that thousands if not millions of people will die in the process. that's a real hero, not your impulsive, megalomaniac and demagoguery coward, ojukwu ( according to the americans). if ojukwu were the leader of the yoruba and hausas, wouldn't you be happy that their people were killed? if ojukwu sacrificed his personal liberty for biafra, I would understand, but hey he ran away! why run away if you know what you want. not only that, he contested elections in Nigeria thereby completing his own humiliation!. think deeply bro. don't be impulsive and emotive like your 'hero'

You need to brush up on your Nigerian history because if you did you would know that Ojukwu offered Ojukwu offered Gowon referendum before the war and throughout the war. Infact, early on in the war, the then president of Ethiopia, Emperor Selassie, tried to broker peace by calling Ojukwu and Gowon to a peace meeting. At that meeting, Ojukwu offered a ceasefire if Gowon agreed to a referendum. Gowon said it must be 'one Nigeria' or nothing. 'One Nigeria' is a term for slavery, it is like telling people that they have no right to decide their destiny. It is because of this useless British colonial jargon called 'one Nigeria' that Gowon mobilised the Nigerian Army to go to East and kill 3.5 million people. Nigeria justified its existence at the cost of millions, thats why it should not be a country. No country should cost millions to be together.

Just like George Washington led the American war of independence to free America from Britain, Just like King Bruce led the Scottish war of independence to free Scotland from England, So did Ojukwu lead his people in a war to liberate them from Hausa/Fulani controlled Nigeria. The only difference is that while the other two were successful, Ojukwu was not. Today, both America and Scotland are doing well while the colonial contraption Gowon was fighting to keep together has not progressed an inch since he won the war. We are still as divided as ever, we dont love each other, we are a country but not a nation. One Nigeria has proved not to be worth the paper it is written on, vindicating Ojukwu.

Freedom is an honour to fight for, as a Nigerian, you will not be able to understand that. That is why you will not understand why Ojukwu is a hero to his people.

dyydxx:
You are worse than delusional if you don't know that an attempt to declare BIAFRA will lead to the 2nd Civil War.

Thats exactly what Im saying, all you Nigerians know about is war.

donborg:
Let me ask you a question prof, what makes ojukwu a hero? and what is the dictionary definition of a hero and a coward?

Ojukwu fought for the freedom and independence of his people and that is why thw vast majority of his people and that makes him a hero for us.

You may call him a coward because he didnt stay back to die but for us, him fighting hard for three years against impossible odds makes him the bravest Igbo man ever.

DropShot:
But they're saying you people should go already.

Abeg make Una comot for sw too.

No problem, but you people should also start supporting dividing Nigeria so that Igbos can get Biafra and go home.

How can you Nigerians be telling people to go and still be talking about one Nigeria? Asking them to go should go hand in hand with disintegration.

donborg:
think deeply before you answer, if Nnamdi kanu gives you gun to fight Nigeria now, will you fight?

Fighting is for Nigerian not Biafrans. 50 years ago, Ojukwu told Nigeria that instead of fighting and killing each other, a referendum should be conducted so the people can choose. Gowon started shouting 'one Nigeria' and started a war by ordering troops into the Eastern Region.

50 years later, Kanu and IPOB are once again saying referendum so that the people can decide

Again, you Nigerians have started shouting 'one Nigeria' and talking about war

LionDeLeo:
Boy, start packing and stop all these stories.

Start supporting the disintegration of Nigeria so we can know you mean business

donborg:
Ojukwu cannot have a forgiving heart because he didn't lose anything during the war. infact He is a very very very very very very wicked man for sacrificing 3.5 million children. the darkest part of hell is reserved for him forever

You mean the 3.5 million Nigeria killed in the name of 'one Nigeria'?

As an Igbo man, I have no problem with Northerners asking Igbos to leave their area.

What Im totally against is telling Igbos to go while holding on to 'one Nigeria'.

As they tell Igbos to go, they should support Biafra so Igbos can have where to go to

olatiler:
There is something that wasn't clear to me about Biafra and the ppl calling for it
1) do All Igbo ppl calling for Biafra

Is it all Nigerians that want 'one Nigeria'?

2) do all Igbo ready to leave other tribe territory and fully relocate to their home land and remains there permanently

It is not a must a person must be a citizen of a country to live in that country

3) Lastly let all Igbo ready to relocate vacate other Territory mostly North because we all know that Aboki don't joke once they say anything

They should agree to Biafra first

muykem:
IYC has spoken, that is position of South-south. Let us have Biafra and Niger Delta republic differently.

But Biafra is the only one of the two that anyone is agitating for. How can anyone be talking about Niger Delta when there isnt even one single organisation agitating for it?

Also, the IYC can talk for Ijaws but not for other ethnic groups. The Solomon Chukwu they are talking about is an Ikwerre man

Nnamdi Kanu! Ohamadike! Born freedom fighter

Nnamdi Kanu! Ohamadike! Born freedom fighter

Aa much as I think that the lower Benue, Idoma, Igede and Igala are Biafrans, I wont lose sleep if they are left back in Nigeria

kheart:
Frustration or not biafra must go

Proudly arewian (northerner)

I wish you guys were this wise when we left the first time

“This is happening irrespective of the undisputable fact that, Igbos have done and are doing more damage to our collective nationhood than any other ethnic group;

Yet, if the Igbos say they want Biafra, you guys will start shouting 'one Nigeria'

Eziokwuegbuozoo:
All this nonsense will stop once Biafra is restored, this kind of scital insensitivity was all emulated from the Afonja people of brown roof republic, it was never our norms. Two thieves was apprehended last month in my area for extorting some amount of money, and after few torture they called the police to come and pick them up, one useless Afonja who also lives in the vicinity was passing by and saw gathering of crowd, he walked to me and asked me what happened I told him some thieves was apprehended, his reply was' eeh what are they waiting for nah? They should killed them immediately and set them ablaze. I just looked at him and was confused on what to do to him, wether to slap him, cause him or just ignore him. That's how wicked they're, he never asked what they stole, I even told him that police has been invited and he questioned why police had to be invited instead of killing them. Horrible kind of people.

When Biafra comes and anybody tries any form of jungle justice, we will resset that persons brain. This barbaric way of treating suspects will never stop in Nigeria but it will be a thing of the past in Biafra

Kanoman82:
. But i think ojukwu is responsible for that killing.

How?