₦airaland Forum

famagusta:
I have been wondering why Nigerians of different tribes treat themselves more as brothers outside the Shores of this country than here in Nigeria. Just last year my elder brother was in London and was welcomed and put through by a yoruba stranger that he met for the first time, but here in Nigeria we seem not to be that welcoming and we are fond of chauvinistic behaviours towards ourselves. Guys please what could be the reasons for this? I personally think we should strive to accept and love our selves irrespective of our tongues. Meanwhile I am Igbo.

The reason is simple, Nigeria is the problem. If Hausa/Igbo/Yoruba all had their separate countries, we would have been best of friends. But as long as we are all in this 'one Nigeria' we will be at each others neck forever

ManMountain:
It's the hypocrisy behind your agitation that is knocking off any steam to it!!
An idiot called Nnamdi Kanu push up a narrative of hate, insults and outright falsehood in most instances without a clear idea of a road map to achieve the goals and you are expecting success and support of people that are his targets of invectives.
Change the narrative of your agitation and just maybe you will find a wider audience and support.

Change the narrative of the agitation? There is no narrative here except that of self determination. I do not have to sweet talk or please anyone before I demand my God ordained right to freedom, neither has Kanu.

The only narrative here is that the colonial fraud created by Britain in 1914 and refered to as 'Nigeria' has come to an end.

Of course he will win again. All the 'Sai baba zombies' who voted for him 2 years ago are waiting to do the same in 2019

These threads with some tribes saying "remove us from Biafran map"


When they put you people in 'Nigerian Map', what did you do?

I heard that when the disgrace of a General called Oladipo Diya was appointed Military Governor of Ogun State, he told Ogun state people that it is now they will know the real meaning the word "Diya". Apparently, "Diya" means 'purnishment' in Yoruba

9jasite:
The street allegiance is strong.





Now is the time for fiscal federalism...before it is too late.

Forget fiscal federalism, the North are prepared to fight against that one even more than Biafra

Sanchez01:
Because whatever follows doesn't sit well with you, yeah? I'm sure you wouldn't term it as rubbish if they all claim they stand with Biafra.


Wrong! The constitution which forms our law recognizes geopolitical zones,and these geopolitical zones are classified grouped based on certain/shared cultural values, beliefs, orientation among many other things.


Again, a geopolitical zone defines a people. No single body can speak on behalf of all the groups in South, this, I believe, explains why they each have representatives and heads who act on their behalf, just as the Ohaneze acts on behalf of all Igbos, regardless of their subsects. While he has no right to speak for all the groups, the article in itself should be your take away; the coming together of various groups and their heads in kicking against a purpose that does not concern them.


Again, fall back to the article. It's just like saying the Yorubas would be a part of Biafra. Ideally, an average Yoruba Yoruba man would kick against the idea as he believes his zone shares no similarly with those who are presently agitating.


That was then. A whole lot has changed now. Effiong might have been a general in the Biafran army, but then we all know that most minority groups were forced to join the war, all thanks to Ojukwu. That said, I believe the Igbos would never allow an Edo/Urhobo/Ijaw man become a governor in any of their states, even though these regions used to be known as one at some point. We are very different and that is the truth.


Save you want to hide from the truth, a whole lot has changed now. Let's not get this mixed up, Ojukwu knew the war was lost and decided to flee, leaving his second-in-command in charge. The war was lost at the time and it was very obvious to both Ojukwu and Effiong. So, saying Effiong was the president from the 8th of January 1970 - to the 12th of January 1970 is laughable. No formal ceremony or handing over was done. It's just like having history record that Osinbajo was once the President of Nigeria. We all know this is false as he didn't take a decision on his own. The same applied to Effiong. Ojukwu fled and simply asked him to surrender five days after.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Effiong


Again, if the vision of Biafra isn't Igbo, how come Igbos have been groaning about wanting to 'control their own destiny'?

The article was first published in 2015,but quite frankly, nothing has changed.

You are a confused human being. The bases of the foundation of Biafra are tribes, not south/south or whatever ficticious name anyone has borrowed from Nigeria.

Where in the constitution is South/South or South East recognised? Quote the section let me go and read it up.

How can a geopolitical zone define a people? What does an Ogoja man, East of the River Niger have in common with an Isoko man , West of the Niger?

Ohaneze only speaks for an ethnic group, the Igbos. It does not speak for any so called 'geopolitical zone'. Ohaneze does not speak for the Igalas of Anambra or the Idomas of Enugu state.

In that same regard, nobody or organisation should claim to speak for another ethnic under the pretence of a none existent South/South.

Wether Ojukwu was fleeing or not, he did not have to hand over to Effiong. He could have appointed a fellow Igbo. Either way, a non Igbo was the last president of Biafra which should tell anyone with half a brain that Biafra is not an Igbo only thing.

ndoeyopbennet:
By repetition the point is sunked into the heart of everyone who thinks Niger Delta is Biafran territory.

We ddidnt ask for referendum. Our leaders have all spoken. Take it or leave it.

Whenever I hear 'we south/south', I already know whatever will follow after that will be fraudulent.

The term South/South is not recognised in Nigerian law same as South East. South South is just geopolitical zone, a geopolitical zone is just a group of people who are most likely to vote in a similar way.

A geopolitical zone is not a people. There are over 40 minority tribes in the south of Nigeria , I am yet to see one single authentic organisation that speaks for them all. All we see is one organisation or the other with ridiculous sounding names that always ends with 'Niger Delta' sitting anywhere from Yenagoa to Eket and claiming to be the mouthpiece of all the minorities and never managing to achieve anything.

On the issue of Biafra, not everyone will like the idea. Not every ethnic group will want to be part of it, some may even prefare Nigeria. That is why no ethnic group shoup speak for another. If there should be anyone speaking for each ethnic group, it should be their apex social and political organisations.

Finally, these people who like to think that Biafra is an Igbo thing are really funny. The last president of Biafra, General Philip Effiong, was not an Igbo man.

Can a non Nigerian ever become president of Nigeria? Of course not!

So if Biafra was just about Igbos, how could an Annang/Ibibio man like General Effiong ever become its president?

The vision of Biafra is not Igbo, its eventual capital is not likely to be in Igbo land and there is a good chance that when Biafra returns, its next president might not be an Igbo man.

rusher14:
Asari Dokubo is a beninoise.
Taking money from the Niger Delta to Benin Republic.

He said thst he had to site his business in a place that is condusive. Benin is far more condusive than Nigeria

Afam4eva:
Now to my question, what's the thin line between patriotism and Tribalism based on the scenario that i have painted.

There is no line, patriotism does not exist in Nigeria.

Proud to be Igbo, now and in the next life

Igbo mma mma nu!

The Ugolor guy is worried about Niger Delta unity? I wonder why he is worried? Niger Delta unity is just like Nigerian unity, it exsts on paper only. If I ask him what an Efik man and a Bini man have ever done together in Nigeria, will he be able to tell me? What has an Itsekiri man and an Ogoja man ever done together?

There is not even one single Apex organisation that speaks for all the collective tribes in Niger Delta.

My Brother, tyranny is a terminal disease. It is something that Buhari can never cure himself of.

Buhari has showed his bias and tyranny towards IPOB too many times.

In his first media chat, he could not hold himself when he declared that Nnamdi Kanu should not be granted bail because of crimes commited. Buhari who swore to uphold the rule of law suddenly turned into judge and jury on national tv and proclaimed Kanu guilty.

The sane Buhari while been interviewed by Al Jazeera refused point blank to watch the video of the Nigerian Army shooting unarmed IPOB in Aba. The same Buhari who swore to protect every Nigerian regardless of ethnicity, religion or creed. Yet, he could not watch video of his armed forces commiting murder.

A respected international organisation like Amnesty Internstional reported that over 150 IPOB have been killed. Most sane presidents would have been outraged and demanded an immidiate independent investigation into the report. Buhari could not do this but if a report landed on his table that the Nigerian Army killed 150 people in his native Daura, Buhari would have been breathing down hellfire and brimstone.

On the whole, not only is Buhari an unrepentant dictator, he is a disgrace of a leader.

I truly feel sorry for any country the likes of Buhari is leading

snika:
Another Yoruba moslem on the loose

True.

These people still think that Biafra is an 'Igbo thing'. They still do not know that the last president of Biafra, General Philip Effiong, was not even an Igbo man

Nowenuse:
I consider myself a South-southerner too because that was the land i was born, bred and still living and now mixed with.

Are you this much of a learner? Or just plain ignorant? Lets leave the issue of Biafra aside for a moment, what do you mean by you are a South-Southerner? Does the constitution of Nigeria recognise anything like South/South? So how can you come from something that does not exist in law? Do you know how the so called 'South/South' came about? The so called South/South along with the other 5 are geopolitical zones were created by the regime of Abacha in the 90's for economic planing. How can a geopolitical zone not recognised by the law be your identity? Also, when did Oron, Efik, Ogoja, Ogoni etc decide to join you in the so called South/South?

As far as Nigeria is concerned, the only two identities you are entitled to is your ethnic group and 'Nigerian'. Any other thing you call your self inside Nigeria is foolish. Outside Nigeria, you can add another identity of 'African'.


All this comes to the heart of what Biafra is all about. How can Nigerians still be answering the ficticious names imposed on them by Soldiers?

Because a British Soldier called Lugard came to West Africa, we have become Nigerians

Because Gowon came, some people are now Rivers and Cross River

Becuase Murtala came, Im now Anambra

Because IBB came, some people are now Deltans

Abacha came, now some people are South/South and South East.

One ficticious name after the other. So when do people get to choose their own name and identity? Why must people keep answering to imposed names?

The agitators of Biafra are right to demand a referendum. For once, let the people decide who they are, what their politics and country should be.

Those who love Nigeria should also come out express their love by voting to continue as Nigerians. Referendum means power to the people.

But until the people decide, everyone should speak only for their ethnic group. Not everyone will like the idea of Biafra, however, no one should stand against the democratic right of the people to choose their future via referendum

michelz:
I must be dreaming here. Never thought a day would come when the Yoruba would be talking about secession, not to talk of including some parts of south south and middle belt in their proposed country. Interesting.
Does it mean they've had their eyes on these placed all these while but have been playing their usual character of cowardice and chameleon attitude.

How can they talk about secession? These are the same people who till today still think Ojukwu was a fool to attempt secession. Oduduwa Republic is just a pipe dream Yorubas try to raise up from time to time to cheer themslves up from the realisation that the Gambari Lords will never let them have true federalism.

This sort of thread is not necessary. Kanu was never chasing an Igbo agenda.

kropotkin2:
In other words you are just another silly IPOB clown

You may think that but freedom is a long hard road with little or no friends to help. But I wouldnt expect someone like you, who claimed a country created by a white man called Lugard, as your,own, to understand. You cant do what Lugard did, thats why you will be against those like Ojukwu, IPOB, MASSOB who are trying to do what he did.

Im sure if Lugard had not come to Africa, people like you would have gone to Europe to find him so he can give your country

Who knows, maybe you would have begged him to choose a better name for you than a common River.

Im a proud IPOB supporter for the fact that I think that my Igbo nation have the inalinable right to decide if they want to be part of the Nigerian nation or not. It is quite shocking for me that Nigerians think Lord Lugards Nigeria is for life. Igbos have have every right to seek existence along with the minorities who are "willing".

When it comes to Donald Trump, I dont like the man. However, Im not American. How he Governs America is his business. But as the leader of the free world, the fact that he supports self determination makes me connect with him. Donald Trump will probably never aknowledge the Biafran movement but that is not the point. The point is that the most powerful man in the world will not stand against the emergence of a Biafran nation is worth celebrating no matter how insignificant it may be.

spartan117:
It was war, there were casualties on both sides.
In time we will come to appreciate him as a nation just as d Americans eulogize george washington

You have it all wrong. George Washington was fighting for the liberation of his fellow Americans from Britain.

Ojukwu was fighting for the liberation of his people from Nigeria.

Who was Gowon fighting to liberate? Nobody

Gowon fought so that him and his fellow Northerners can have access to oil money

You really think that if it were the Northerners that had the Oil, Gowon would have been fighting Ojukwu to keep Igbos in Nigeria so that Igbos will partake in enjoying the Oil wealth of the North?

'One Nigeria' has always been about Oil.

Funny thing is that if Igbo say they want to go their way, his tribe will be the first to shout 'one Nigeria!'

spartan117:
while I don't support d mass genocide during d Civil War, but he is however a hero of one Nigeria

Nobody becomes a hero by killing 3 million people...................except in Nigeria

spartan117:
Gowon still remains my favorite past Nigerian head of state

Yeah, the man who killed 3 million people to keep the zoological Republic of Lord Lugard together.

mars123:
All we want is a lawful, prosperous, nation where different individuals can thrive. That's all that matters.

Not possible. Have you seen where properity comes to a people fighting each other?

Nigeria has a unique situation of having the 3 largest ethnic groups in Africa, each of them over 40 million people. It is not possible to have 2 captains of a Ship let alone 3.

Do you know how embarrassed I feel as an Igbo man knowing that Im from a tribe of over 40 million but I dont have my own country? But Gambia that are less than 2 million are a country, sierra Leon is just 6 million but is a country, Togo is just 7 millon but is a country. The population of Gambia, Togo and Sierra Leon is not even up to half of Igbos but Igbos dont have their own country and are stuck in Nigeria answering to a colonial mantra called 'one Nigeria'.

Laughable

FellepHq:
Why not Young Nigeria-American Girl?

Because that not how she would have been potrayed by the 'name checkers' had she been a prostitute, thief or drugpusher.


Besides, there is nothing like 'one Nigeria', not for most Igbos anyway

There is nothing to rate

limamintruth:
Defamation is a criminal offense under the Criminal & Penal Codes of Southern and Northern Nigeria respectively.
Whereas libel & slander are civil wrongs.

Really? Then that is very bad. Defamation should be a civil offence. Im shocked that Nigeria that claims to be a democracy actually criminalised defamation. Terrible

Defamation should be a civil offence, not a criminal one. Since when did one need to be bailed for defamation? This is bad

divicode:
Honestly, this is the only sensible man in the whole of the Biafrauud republic. Apart from the fact that he belonged to the right party, he has demonstrated over and over again that he is a sensible and a reasonable person. He is a perfect example of 'use your head to fight' and not 'fight with the gun'

He belongs to the right party? You mean the one that brought recession and so much suffering? The one that too the Dollar to 500 Naira?

Oh yeah, Okorocha can only be a hero to those who like the fraud known as the zoological Republic of Lord Lugard

Ifeanyi Ubah. The man who went from petty trading to owning one of the largest Oil/Gas firms in Nigeria.

Igbo youths forum? Thats how they came up with TRIPOB

Whenever someone from the minorities of Nigeria says they are not interested in a referendum, it is a clear case of an impostor.

The minorities of Nigeria rarely have a say in what happens in Nigeria or how their future is decided.

So when someone is intent on making themselves more minor by denying themselves their right to a democratic referendum, then the person cannot be from the minorities. The minorities have had their oil wealth stolen for years, the suffer the effects of Oil exploration and they have been impoverished. It is not in that situation anyone rejoices about one Nigeria.

I remember what Asari Dokubo said about Itsekiris in his his phone call to Radio Biafra a few weeks where he declared himself a Biafran. He disparaged them saying that only a referendum will allow them be part of Biafra. However, facts do not lie. Urohbos have become regular callers on Radio Biafra, the head of IPOB in Delta state is actually an Urohbo man. A few weeks ago, Radio Biafra was hosted in Urohbo language. I even.learnt some Urohbo that dat and was surprised that the word for 'blood' means the same thing in Urohbo and Igbo languages. Many Urohbos called in and pledged allegiance to Biafra.

So whoever started this thread is ignorant, naieve and definitely not from one of the minorities.