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BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 9:36am On Dec 08, 2021
Gentlelife50:
Tomorrow you'll still see someone coming here to ask how much he will be making everyday, that he just finished learning how to drive and don't know roads too.
Not even asking for how to perfect his driving skills, tomorrow they will be on the road in addition to the mad drivers we already have on the roads.
Wetin I know sef, everybody dey struggle to survive the hash economy even at the risk of their lives and that of other road users.
You see...I have this heuristic persona, I strongly believe in the idea of people learning from their experiences. I hate hearsays. Perhaps, because I'm an adventurous person.

Sometimes discussion like this pops up in inner circle...
"Ehn I hear say dem dey make N5m for ehailing biz"

Na me go be the first person, wey go chook mouth...off course yes...you can. Months later comes reality...Then he/she could make his/her submission... Simple!!!

You could have an hint about something, but experience will surely be different...
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 9:08am On Dec 08, 2021
Ghost1994:
Na dem

Nigerians with self entitlement mentality. They don’t want to do anything at all

My experience so far for this December is hell…
Rider will be asking shitty questions like:

Where’s your car?
Where are you?
Reverse back
Go front
Turn left
Open booth
Come down
Is this you
What’s your number plate
What’s your car color
Is your car yellow, orange, lemon or limca?
Is this you?
Your car is gold but it’s doesn’t look like gold
Can you carry 2 bags of rice?
Don’t follow map I’ll direct you (gbam una both find una self inside traffic)
Noooo I’m in number 2 not 5 turn back (but it’s just 2 houses ahead now)
Oga why are you driving sluggish (80km/h is sluggish)
Oga you’re over-speeding


You can’t satisfied Nigerians
Lol....once you here the title "Oga".... Na only olosho dey use this prefix.....the first is when they are running late, before the Indian/pakistaní change his mind and contact another service provider...

The second is when they'd already cashed-out, they wan' get home safely, with the reality that life is sweet with money, looking worn out, lying like a fat bull at the rear, " ruminating " about how the money would be spent ,percentage to be paid as thrift(àjo) and to their plug/Connect....

U gaz have fair understanding how shows are being run by this group of people, since they are large % those we ferry around.
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 1:26am On Dec 08, 2021
streetsoldier1:
He must be [b]partially mad [/b]to have done that to you
Which one be Partial madness again grin
It could be the dangerous/worst form of madness ó grin
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 1:22am On Dec 08, 2021
Barbiturate:
Thanks brother. I appreciate your concern. The thing taya me walai. Despite the fact that today wasn't that good concerning returns, person still clear my side mirror. Anyways, I don manage fix am small. I'll manage it for sometime.

I lol at that ur story with the short guy.

It is just the kind of country we find ourselves. Mad drivers every where and the govt is only concerned about money! My cousin in the states, who did uber before going into truck business, told me the process it takes before you can drive on uber or Lyft. You have to pass through some process before you can get a driver's licence, not to talk of the process it takes driving on e-hailing.

He said a guy's licence was withdrawn from him cos they found out he had taken some alcohol. He did not hit anybody. He had to sell his truck cos he was banned from driving. Used the money to follow up his case in court. My cousin's friend bought the truck from him at a cheap price.

God go help us for this country! Thanks again brother
Wonga shí né i, gaskia ni.
To be issued DL for America and UK....na war, can't say for other European nation...but it seems if you did reside in some rural areas in America - North Carolina, Arkansas' to mention a few...you still fit use "craze without DL" dey drive without being apprehended - (so I was told)
Most Nigerians did fail up to 3 times before being issued DL...
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 1:05am On Dec 08, 2021
1daboi:
Buhari is coming to Lagos on Thursday. angry
Heavy traffic � angry angry
Hmmm....you go here Pansa Pansa...wetin bubu wan' kon do sef? Can't just imagine
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 1:02am On Dec 08, 2021
[b]
Dailyparrot:
I had a very terrible experience with a rider this evening.

This man ordered me at Makoko community in Yaba area. He was going to the airport When I got there, he came out with a lady carrying two bags. I opened the trunk from inside and they put the bags and closed the trunk.

The man came and sat in front of the car but refused to close the door. He started asking me why I didn't come down to open the trunk for him. That, is he not paying for the trip, that I am not doing him a favour. So many trashes.

I told him that I opened the trunk from inside and I am already seated in the car so? He then said that he will cancel the trip. I told him that with all pleasure, he can cancel it.

The next thing, the man said that I will not take my car out of their estate until I bring his bags out of my car by myself. I came down from the car and he did. When we got to the gate, the estate security men asked me to go outside the car, I told them that something is wrong with their brain to think that I will leave my car inside their estate and go outside so they will lock me out.

After much back and forth, I just knew the man had home advantage and there's no need dragging further, let me just remove his luggages from my car and move on to other trips.

When I brought his bag out, he started shouting that I have broken things inside the bag with the way I dropped it on the floor. I just entered my car and drove to the gate before those security people opened for me to drive out.

The man was telling me that he left university 35 years ago, that he has a personal driver that he pays 150k monthly. I guess he's use to getting served that he can't differentiate his domestic staff from someone that's there to provide a service and go.

This hustle sha. cry
Lol...For him to have quickly reel out this unfounded statement, him no get shingbai...confam richmen no dey shout, you go see am for him body, his utterances, finesse, panache... Òlówo kí pàríwo...richman no dey shout....na empty barrel .... You see why some us kept saying , this hustle no be everyday "husulu" - (in my eastern brothers intonation)
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 7:35pm On Dec 07, 2021
davit:
Truth is most guys doing this work now are accidental drivers. They just decided to do the work cos they heard that money dey there. Most don't know how to really drive. I see them on the roads every day.

It is that pathetic.
Walai... I'm also one of them, but the difference is....I know where my strength lies, over 2 years now, I've never driven more than 4days in a week and always less than 12 hours....Any attempt to go above this threshold would result to either the Car breaking down or I breakdown - (according to BAZOO grin)
To each is own, if you like update dashboard N1Billion.... "Your money na ur own ó" - in davidos voice...

But BAZOO said one thing some few pages longtime ago, which is Germaine... He said : "It amazes him how some dude, get the mental strength and motivation, waking up everyday to Drive in a City like lasgidi"....

Could money have been the motivation?
( can't really say)

A discern individual would know, this is the most difficult aspect of this hustle - getting the right motivation to go behind wheels everyday ..if you did have aspirations, dreams, goals you'd set to achieve . you will have a fair understanding how difficult it is to go by with this hustle. Mind you, to majority it is an END - (career/profession) , which I see nothing wrong in it, but to few ones it is a phase.

So to each is own...

Gracias!!!
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 6:02pm On Dec 07, 2021
Barbiturate:
One of una defensive driver just destroyed my side mirror. The worse was that he ignored me like nothing happened. The rider begged me and said he would give me 3k to fix it. This guy still told him not to give me up to 3k.

All these Corolla rough drivers, make una dey take am easy!
Sorry bro...E dey pain me whenever I here say you enter gbègé...sorry bro...
majority of those Corolla boys are ill mannered , uncultured and their actions is being propelled by a reprobate mind. Rare light N500 dem no buy, dem go dey chook head enter little space , they form Italian job...
Similar incident happened slightly to me on Sunday around LCC , lekki...one short dude, so short, like a midget...you kon dey reverse, wound up all windows without looking back physically, kon stiff neck like crocodile looking at the inner mirror, dey reverse ....forming 007 tabi vastapen.

I slammed the horn behind him ó ...the idiot no hear .. Till I struggle to speed off behind a steep bend, the idiot scratched my car...

Came down and looked the guy like? Walai ...e~hailing platform need they conduct physical verification. I can bet it, hardly could the guy see his rear side while sitting. A pillowcase can't help his matter sef, I kon dey wonder say this ehailing na all comers affair ó...gbogbo èró...

Bro just be careful, try embarking on long distances avoid intra street and ensure you travel against traffic... Most important - no chase N1m.... #safetrip
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 5:32pm On Dec 07, 2021
chiste1:
Good morning guys, kindly advice on what to expect as an aspiring bolt/Uber driver.
I just lost my job last month and plan to join you guys as an e-hailing driver but don't have a ride.
I'll like to confirm if it's possible to register as a driver and get a vehicle to drive for Uber/Bolt.
If it's possible, what could be their conditions?
Not everyone has the capacity to drive on the e~hailing platform, but experience would surely tell you where you belong to...
Music/RadioRe: When Last Did You Listen To Radio ? by komodapson(m): 9:23pm On Dec 06, 2021
[quote author=KingDamzzy post=108275035]Surprised this OP thinks people don't listen to radio anymore. Radio is the most widely accessible form of mass communication in Nigeria.

I have been a radio enthusiast for 12 years and i can confidently say that i have learnt more from radio than any other medium.

I shuttle from Lagos Talks 91.3 to Inspiration Fm 97.3 to Nigeria Info 99.3 to Classic Fm 97.3 to Smooth 98.1 and The Beat 99.9. Recently discovered 88.5 UFM some months ago and they have been excellent with music, talk shows, hilarious presenters and rewarding game shows.

Radio and Shazam is a perfect combination. You get to discover new songs everyday.

[\quote]

The OP failed to realize that even the world as a whole, radio tops/ranks the best form of mass media

I love Radio.
Music/RadioRe: When Last Did You Listen To Radio ? by komodapson(m): 9:19pm On Dec 06, 2021
Olunmercy56:
My radio is like my companion for now
Really?/I'm radio addict... To the extent I always listen to VOA and BBC...but my favorite stations are 99.3 FM nigeriainfo and Lagostalk 91.3FM
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 8:09am On Dec 04, 2021
Gudvibes06:
Pls my ogas in the house, I think I need someone to tell me what bolt mean by completion rate ooo this people are scammer after hard work to win their 11k see watin dem do me. Pls I need help if there is what I need to do better.
Hahahaha...I smile...when I see folks pursuing this bonus of a thing. I feel your pain. Bolt don carry you handicap be that. I'll implore you to get in touch with any of the ant emissaries or bolt staff Pearl1960 grin
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by komodapson(m): 8:31pm On Dec 03, 2021
Nigerialabalaba:
No be hia we dey days ago wey we say egungun be careful,no run enter MTN expressway for dat price e dey do dat time. Other stocks be 50k, MTN say dem own be 20k yet dem gbese full everywhere you go.

Btw, cutix na be anoda stock wey u go need to shine ur eyes,dem be 20k from 17k but dem neva add the bonus. If dem add the bonus, dat one be say,cutix na 10k eps.

Igi pawpaw o ni wo pawa o.
What are you saying in a nutshell? Is it that the offer for sale @ N169 isn't fair enough or investors could get their fingers burnt if they went all gunz blazing
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by komodapson(m): 8:26pm On Dec 03, 2021
DUNKA:
thanks. Their debt is quite frightening
Oh really...I never took into cognisance their debt profile, but I thought they've being making massive profit for the past decade. However, going by few financial report I read in first quarter of this year, we learnt Telecommunications and breweries recorded highest financial growth trajectory in Nigeria, amidst pandemic scourge.
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 12:41am On Dec 03, 2021
Pearl1910:
@Chillex...IJGB is booking me to Enugu, I told him 100k. He is asking why so expensive, I said it's 2dyas work, fuel, maintainance and security concerns has been factored. Then I asked him why is he not flying...isn't he hearing the East and d roads aren't safe? Well, I went further to tell him that by Xmas time I will be Netting minimum 30k daily so 100k Gross to Enugu is not even negotiable.

So guys as the season arrives, and those interstate trips are offered to u,
1. Make sure u know who u r carrying and let them know u have informed your family and friends of the trip.
2. Charge double or triple what u will ordinarily make in the hours u r spending on the trip. Or else u stay in town jeje.
3. Don't bulge with ur pricing, don't enter highway for peanuts, the risk is high so u should have a good boofer.
4. Keep your car in prestine condition, that trip can come anytime.
Which Car do you drive?
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 12:38am On Dec 03, 2021
Pearl1910:
@Chillex...IJGB is booking me to Enugu, I told him 100k. He is asking why so expensive, I said it's 2dyas work, fuel, maintainance and security concerns has been factored. Then I asked him why is he not flying...isn't he hearing the East and d roads aren't safe? Well, I went further to tell him that by Xmas time I will be Netting minimum 30k daily so 100k Gross to Enugu is not even negotiable.

So guys as the season arrives, and those interstate trips are offered to u,
1. Make sure u know who u r carrying and let them know u have informed your family and friends of the trip.
2. Charge double or triple what u will ordinarily make in the hours u r spending on the trip. Or else u stay in town jeje.
3. Don't bulge with ur pricing, don't enter highway for peanuts, the risk is high so u should have a good boofer.
4. Keep your car in prestine condition, that trip can come anytime.
1&4 - key... No enter road, if the state of your car isn't top notch, else you go hear pansa pansa
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 1:32pm On Dec 02, 2021
stacyadams:
Bolt will save u a lot of troubles,at least u know where ur going to[b], wuber will just carry u go one useless axis wey u no familiar with.[/b].na lastma go carry the fare Las Las
Rider(s) wey go use uber, he/she is aware of the cost implication...so him no go waka crayfish waka...uber no go carry you go ikotun, abaranje, Igbo elerin, seribiti, imota, ota....
.ko possible or the likelihood of occurrence is close to negligible...
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 1:25pm On Dec 02, 2021
chillex8:
Today dull ooo.
Indriver, let's go there tongue
No dey loud this thing guy grin
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 8:26pm On Nov 30, 2021
chillex8:
While lagos drivers were killing themselves over bolt 1.9X, some drivers were milking indrive riders.
Shhhhhhh...fem sad no loud am
Car TalkRe: Cab Driver Confronts Soldier Who Smashed His Car Windscreen In Lagos (video) by komodapson(m): 7:55pm On Nov 30, 2021
lordmans:
Every time you folks will rush to the social media to always paint the soldiers black. If not for them managing the traffic along that area and Ikeja along axis would you be able to get home early enough in a day cos your lastma and police are only there to extort rather than perform the duties they were paid for.

Who doesn't know most motorists on Lagos roads would deliberately create unnecessary traffic bottlenecks with no justification. But the soldiers would be pulled out of the comfort of their barracks to support the roles of these failing agencies and all you people do is to misbehave to them and disregard simple instructions.
One day, this injustice would be melted on you . we go hear your story
Car TalkRe: Cab Driver Confronts Soldier Who Smashed His Car Windscreen In Lagos (video) by komodapson(m): 7:53pm On Nov 30, 2021
donjosh47:
If e easy u sef go don Japa nah
U dey mind the mumu guy
Car TalkRe: Cab Driver Confronts Soldier Who Smashed His Car Windscreen In Lagos (video) by komodapson(m): 7:51pm On Nov 30, 2021
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Wetin do you? Why u no carry your relatives go...the kontree no tire you...better go learn work and desist from these old scam
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 2:29pm On Nov 30, 2021
eyinola:
exactly, u will hear them saying na so we dey carry am na how come ur own dey different, that's how 2 girls ordered me ,they were going to spar to sell barbecue at first i was angry that I can't carry the grill machine cos it will stains my boot but their oga was just begging me , we left on d way they said i will stop for them at mushin market to buy paper and some ingredient. I told them one of them should get down to buy and use okada when she's done buying, na so this girls start dey insult me oooo say every Sunday if they are going thats how they use to buy pepper on their way that me am wicked, am feeling too big, this and that bla bla I just increase my radio volume..Some drivers dey take shit and riders will now feels it's the normal thing
These are some of the sh*ts the Queen (Ants) do take/absorb to achieve the most controversial dashboard earnings...so you're either in or out grin
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 3:27am On Nov 30, 2021
Gabrinchi256:
Eat at least one proper meal, take supplements and take naps during ;Dd day.
If u persist, little by little your system will adapt and u will be used to it.
I want to believe the gains u made was worth d stress
Really, Are you a representative of the AntsLeague? But they never gave nor admitted to a list of prescription to be taken before embarking on this tortuous journeys o. Na your own recipe be this grin I hope you ain't against work ethics of the Ants...
I'll report you, first - for engaging in sharp practices, being shady and underhand dealings on this Job....lol
'Cos you people never told us about medications and having siestas under Mango tree, which often comes at a Cost. It could cost me my N1million mark grin

No wonder, BAZOO1 kept on saying the Ants FLOW CHART (modus operandi) shrouds in secrecy
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 9:54pm On Nov 29, 2021
How true be this...succour at last...enough of, map carry me enter steep road grin

BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 9:45pm On Nov 29, 2021
VaselineCrew:
You forgot to state how much you earned while anting for a day.
But you should have asked : "how much was spent on my ACL - lol
Health is wealth bro grin
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 9:28pm On Nov 29, 2021
Felicity0001:
Why will they talk? because they're afraid to be scold na... The only person that say it the way it is is felicity001, he's not afraid of what ever anyone says anymore.

If I get accident I say it, if you like retrieve ur car e no concern me.

If I travel to Akure I say if, if you like call for ur car without notice... No wam!

If police man slap me I talk am

If I sleep for police cell I talk am

If I pay 160k or 25k for one way I go talk am so that others can also learn.

If I kick ur dirty stupid ass outta my car for trying to dic.k pocochantis at the back seat on 3MDB I go talk am... If e pain you ask for my location to request me then insult me or try rubbish I go set a new record on top ur headgrin

From where I come from we no dey shame, we no dey fear.
We are bold like a lion
Strong and out spoken any how e be we dey talk am.

na only photo shop dashboard revolutionist sabi post they don't settle any police lastma, etc lie lie, them no dey breakdown, their car no dey develop fault at all... Na angels them o.


[b]By the way, you didn't tell us if it's drum of oyelgrin for ur low millage Camry oh;[/b]D
Oga Felicity...last week Friday, I'd plans to push my driving threshold above limit, so I decided to experience what ants do go through.
Woke up 5 a.m, perhaps due to insomnia. Exchange pleasantries with my wife grin quickly Munched the Lords prayer and off I hit the road..."wiwi wiwi wiwi" lekki to gbagada, gbagada to akowonjo...back to lekki...yaba....did like 25 trips on all platforms- indriver o, uber o, bolt.....till 10p.m ..ate junks, bitter kola with some origin plastic...
With Full assertiveness.....
I got home, dropped on bed like a thief, feeling wasted....next day, Saturday...e be like say have been ruled out for 6 months due to ACL-Acute Cruciate Ligament tear...I no fit comot

Dem no go yarn you this...it got to a point I thought my engine belt would cut grin

Now, I have a deep understanding how those baba faragon live "garage life".... E no easy...
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 9:11pm On Nov 29, 2021
BAZ001:
Bros Na motivation you need, when you need urgent 100k you will drive everyday.
Lol, don’t believe what you read here, guys break down, their cars also breaks down but they won’t tell you.
It’s not easy driving esp in Lagos with all the road constructions everywhere.
I tried driving today cos it’s Monday and there will be mad surge but I was getting short short trips request, the only long trip I got was to load two drums inside my trunk. Immediately I saw the way the two Abokie’s were carrying the drums, I just started my car and was going home the rider open mouth?

So its not only you some days go just off you, you can’t drive everyday 24/7 and not breakdown (you or your car)
Confam ní àwon èléyí be fun e(in Pasuma voice) - Reality as its being said in street parlance.
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 8:24pm On Nov 29, 2021
VaselineCrew:
Got in a fight with a danfo guy today

Punched him, while his conductor punched me back.

What happened? He ran the red light and was insulting me on top.

Gosh, such a lawless society we live in, I couldn’t take it anymore.

Of course I know I need to calm down cause something bad might have happened to me as the driver was already reaching for scissors, but I was just sooo angry

Why are we so lawless in Naija?

Why? God why?

I wish I had a gun, I would have shot him instantly
Never ever get yourself involved in this form of altercation... You are not on same pedestal with them, majority are in state of hopelessness. Imagining, a flamingo as white and rare as they are, trying to rough shoulder with a pig...she'll definitely get stained...

Yoruba has a saying - àlásò funfun, lò mâ sà fun èlépo
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 8:15pm On Nov 29, 2021
davit:
Some guys just mumu for this ehaling work. I can't just imagine.
You're quick to apportion blame on the Driver,for being dutiful in show casing his professionalism. What would you now say about the unscrupulous rider?
"She's smart àbí, clever"... Ò jèló
This is the way and manner society gradually descends into state of Abyss, without redemption.
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m):
davit:
The guy I picked yesterday night to Ikeja on 1.9. He didn't come out of the event centre until after about 15 mins paid waiting. Trip ended 6600. Na so Alaye dey para. That what he saw was less than that. He did 6k. I jejely told him he must complete the money. He gave me 500 naira as balance. I still asked for my 100 naira balance. This was a guy who expected me to do 120kph and compete with pilots on my 3rd mainland bridge.

After paying the 100 naira, Alaye was like: Oga you too kala o. In my mind, you too ka alubosa.

Next time make request only when you re ready.

Another idiot rider made a request on 1.9x at Igbo Efon axis around evening time. After arriving, I called her. She said she was coming. 10 mins after, she called that she would see me now. On the dot of 18 mins paid waiting she cancelled. I saw her out come out. Checked my car and booked again. I moved away from her. Request came to me 4 times and I made sure she cancel all.

After the last cancellation, she called my line and started asking me if I was not going. I sha told her my mind. ALWAYS BOOK Ride ONLY WHEN YOU Re READY.
I guess she was blocked after the 5th cancellation. Na so I get another request on 1.9. These ones too delayed close to 20 mins before they came out.

The moment you waste my time waiting, and your fare goes up, no mercy.
When we keep saying that Time consciousness is not domiciled in our DNA, some folks would come out to defend rubbish.
I've never picked up a foreigner, mostly all these Asians, Indians cum Paskitani and he/she waste my time, never. They'll be on look out, in search for you sef, monitoring your movement on the app...
What the hell is wrong with black race for God sake?
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by komodapson(m): 4:23pm On Nov 29, 2021
eyinola:
This our work heennnn , trip 2400 from rollace hotel to cubana ikeja rider do transfer 1900 come dey form say na mistake angry oya do d balance na for like 5 mins she just dey rant blaming network grin oya na show me wetin dis ur bank dey say sef omoh na insufficient balance be dis na madam she say the bank dey craze oooo say she get money for the akant grin and me another rider don dey wait beside the car to enter to VI I just ask her to get down from my car and go
Make una dey drop the phone numbers of these set of terrible riders

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