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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 2:11pm On Oct 22, 2009

ogajim:
I guess also that our "Jerusalem" or central place of worship these days is the "church's" bank accounts or the MOG's bank account.

Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by KunleOshob(m): 2:08pm On Oct 22, 2009

Truthonly:
Acts 9:5
And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard to kick against the pricks.
Paul was a professor in the law of moses at the time he unleashed terror and havoc on the church of Jesus Christ. He thought he was doing God service, just like you are thinking guy. I see you're thinking God has called you to save His church, But you are so so wrong. You'll find out soon enough.
I suggest you read from verse 1
Wise up guy!

I guess Paul also told us to tolerate and accept the false prophets he warned us about when they show up. huh

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 1:44pm On Oct 22, 2009

viaro:
Perhaps you're learning the ABCs of good communication, so what is your complaining about? I already asked that if you can't afford to discuss until you bring your mud slinging to the fore, just ignore my posts - it is not a law that you must slave yourself over viaro's comments on the subject.

Please explain this: "Then shalt thou turn it into money" - verse 25.

How does that differ from what I said as you quoted from my statement:
'At least we know of the same Law that shows that people could convert their tithes into money (Deuteronomy 14:22-27)'

What is the difference between these two statements:

(a) "Then shalt thou turn it into money" - verse 25
(b) "people could convert their tithes into money"

I hope you can at least read those simple statements, regardless whatever insults you bring to the table as the highlight of your posts? The funny thing is that you first deny a fact, then come back acquiescing to the same thing you deny, as below:

After all your complaints, your arguments are hanging in the air. Scroll up and see what I said when quoting Deuteronomy 14, and then mirror my statement against your denial. You seem to just react because you can't resist reacting to anything I post. But when you react, you just leave too wide a gap to connect your piece in a sane line.

Again, I ask: what is the difference between these two statements:

(a) "Then shalt thou turn it into money" - verse 25
(b) "people could convert their tithes into money"

Please show me the difference between those statements? You earlier stated that "money was not used as tithes" and then come back to agree that "it is used as tithes" - please see the highlighted in your quotes. You should not be wasting space denying and agreeing to the same thing in the same breath.

As usual you resort to semantics and pick pick at straws in other people's post whilst pursuing your larger agenda to distort scriptural facts. It is quite evident that the tithes that was temporarily converted to money for ease of transport in deut 14:22-29 was give in monetary form as the tither was still required to use the money to buy produce he was NOT allowed to tithe the money. When i say you are trying to be clever by half now you would start taking offence but is that not what you are doing now huh

The fact remains crystal clear from that passage that money was NEVER used to pay tithes it was only converted to money for ease of transport. And for the benefit of others and to expose your treachery i would post what God instructed the money to be used for. This is the verse most "pastors" would like to see deleted from the bible, people like pilgrim.1 would rather quote it out of context.

Deuteronomy 14: 24 “Now when the Lord your God blesses you with a good harvest, the place of worship he chooses for his name to be honored might be too far for you to bring the tithe. 25 If so, you may sell the tithe portion of your crops and herds, put the money in a pouch, and go to the place the Lord your God has chosen. 26 When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the Lord your God and celebrate with your household.

Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by KunleOshob(m): 10:40am On Oct 22, 2009

its in you:
to everyone who believe chris is fake. 1 question 4 u is this, if he is fake, then are all is pastors fake because in all his other churces the same miracles are performed. infact if that man is not a man of god theen there is no man of god in the world

Evidently all his pastors must have been trained in the art of stage managing miracles. cheesy

That apart howcome here are so many of his pastors performing miracles yet several years down the line we are yet to see one single case independently and creditably verified. How come all we hear are claims from the man himself, his church and his thoroughly brainwashed, deluded and poverty stricken devotees?

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 10:33am On Oct 22, 2009

viaro:
So, dear mrs Donna, can you point out where anyone was penalised for using money as tithes? At least we know of the same Law that shows that people could convert their tithes into money (Deuteronomy 14:22-27) - and for all that, nobody was 'penalised for using money as tithes' in that passage. Your Leviticus 27:28-31 does not teach what you asserted. If you insist it does, then please show where Deuteronomy 14:22-27 penalises anybody for turning their tithes into money! Thank you in advance.

When i state the obvious that some people deliberately mis-quote scriptures to confuse issues and promote unscriptural practises they resort to insults and abuse just becos we are equipped enough to query her majesty's heresies. It is quite clear from the deuteronomy 14:22-29 that money was not used as tithes. God only approved it to be temporarily converted to money for ease of transport and their were clear instructions that it be re-converted back to food products[ including wine and other alcoholic drinks] before it is used as tithes. Infact this passage provides the strongest evidence that money was not to be used as tithes as if it was meant to be God would never have asked the tither to re-convert the money to produce before tithing it. He would simply have asked the tither to tithe the money instead. Passages like this is what makes it clear to me that some people deliberately and glaringly quote scriptures out of context to pursue their personal agendas as it is glaring that the scripture is against the use of money as tithes yet someone is trying to twist it to justify monetary tithes angry

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 10:11am On Oct 22, 2009

18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

The above verses seals it off grin

now going back to verse 5, you would realize that the commandment being disanulled in verse 18 is the same 'commandment to tithe' mentioned in verse 5 and was referred to throughout the passage. The writer goes on to describe this tithing practise as weak and unprofitable. Other versions of the bible describe it as weak and useless. Clearly the commandment to tithe has been specifically eliminating in the christian doctrine. The fact that the writer of hebrews singled out tithes especially whilst declaring the laws invalid goes to speak that the tithing commandment was far more useless than the other laws grin

yet my brethen are constantly being deceibved into parting with a tenth of their income in the name of an obsolete practise, no wonder the bible says people perish for lack of knowledge

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 10:01am On Oct 22, 2009

11 ¶If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
The above scriptures clearly changed the law[ verse 18 uses the term dis-anull] meaning the law was repealed/cancelled and the reasons are given as that the priest being changed there must be a change of the law governing it. Now we know tithing in the old testament had to do with the levitical priesthood which as now been changed and no longer relevat to christianity.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

The scripture above is one i simply love verse 13 states clearly that jesus belonged to another tribe [i.e he did not belong to the tribe of Levi that were entitled to collect tithes] A basic understanding of the bible would make you know that tithing was an integral part of the leviticalpriest hood and only levitcal priests were entitled to tithes meant for the priesthood. The writer of hebrews makes it clear that even Jesus was not from this tribe of priest who were entitled to collect tithes of the people thus implying that even our lord Jesus christ was not entitled to tithes. how much less the charlatans who claim to be representing him.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 9:40am On Oct 22, 2009

5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

The verse above make s it crystal clear that it is secifically the commandement to tithes under the law that this passage is talking about and not just the laws

8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

Verse 8 above goes on to establish that tithes is the law being spoken about in this passage.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 9:22am On Oct 22, 2009

I want us all [especially pro-tithers] to lets examine these scriptures that make it clear that the church of christ as absolutely no business soliciting for tithes talkless of insisting on it. I have often quoted it but most pro-tithers choose to ignore the glaring truths in it whilst they love quoting some parts of it out of context to justify their heretical practise. The passage is non other than Hebrews 7:5-19. This passage makes it clear that christians should not tithe yet my brethen choose to ignore it or worse still some of them twist it. I would re-post the passage here and do a subsequent analysis of it for all to understand better.

5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
11 ¶If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 6:18pm On Oct 21, 2009

viaro:
I gave you time to stop playing games with me. I only lived up to my words - remember my post #369? Here again is what I stated to you personally:When you sling mud and assume that I should ignore the warning I offered you, don't come back crying about my true character.

And could you give me one single example of mud slinging or insult i have done against you on this thread huh

Infact since you re-surfaced and started posting on this thread i have actually made a concerted effort from joining issues with you cause i know debating with you is pointless and you would always resort to insults when the obvious fallacies and scriptural manipulations in your posts are exposed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Teach That Good Unbelievers Can Go To Heaven? by KunleOshob(m): 6:09pm On Oct 21, 2009

noetic15:
@ KunleOshob
Thank u for your response. I would however like to know what the "TRUTH" of Jesus gospel was. what was the truth about? was it the same message primordial prophets have preached? why would Jesus have to come and deliver the message Himself? why did he not just send a prophet?

I beleive the answer to the highlighted question above was answered by the master himself in the passage below:

Mark 12:1-12:
1 Then Jesus began teaching them with stories: “A man planted a vineyard. He built a wall around it, dug a pit for pressing out the grape juice, and built a lookout tower. Then he leased the vineyard to tenant farmers and moved to another country. 2 At the time of the grape harvest, he sent one of his servants to collect his share of the crop. 3 But the farmers grabbed the servant, beat him up, and sent him back empty-handed. 4 The owner then sent another servant, but they insulted him and beat him over the head. 5 The next servant he sent was killed. Others he sent were either beaten or killed, 6[b] until there was only one left—his son whom he loved dearly. The owner finally sent him, thinking, ‘Surely they will respect my son.’
7 “But the tenant farmers said to one another, ‘Here comes the heir to this estate. Let’s kill him and get the estate for ourselves!’ 8 So they grabbed him and murdered him and threw his body out of the vineyard.[/b]

As per the truth of the Gospel Jesus preached, i would suggest you go back and study his teachings in the Gospels all over again with an open mind. I believe the truth would be revealed to you if you truly seek it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 5:59pm On Oct 21, 2009

viaro:
If you're reading like a dunce, your reaction hardly surprises me. By the way, I was addressing ogakim, not the girlie in skirt called KunleOshob.

You are finally reavealing your true colours grin

as chukwudi44 said, a leopard cannot change it's spots tongue

Christianity Etc › Re: Should Churches Secure Loans From Banks? by KunleOshob(m): 5:57pm On Oct 21, 2009

shinystar:
KunleOsho,

When did churches become business enterprises that require loans for expansion?

Well a lot of churches [especially pentecostal] are set up as business enterprises today and they act as such.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Christians Judgemental & Over Zealous by KunleOshob(m): 5:54pm On Oct 21, 2009

Recognise:
Isnt "officially formed in Rome" by Jagunlabi or "institutionalized in Rome" by KunleOshob not the same?

Definitely not the same. Christianity was officially formed based on the mandate Jesus gave to disciples after the ressurection and this was in the first century AD and this was in Jerusalem. It was not until the 4th centruy AD that it was instituitionalized in rome due to it's acceptance by the then roman empire constantine.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 5:47pm On Oct 21, 2009

viaro:
Dear sir, I asked you specific questions, not about how the tithe system was laid out for the children of Israel. I would be delighted if you could answer that/those specific questio(s); and if there are no answers you can provide, it would be even nicer to simply say you went off the tangent. As far as Leviticus is concerned, nobody was "penalised" for using money as tithes -none! If there was any such case (even in the Leviticus 27:28-35 that you quoted), then please show us WHO was actually "penalised" accordingly.

Please ogajim, I still have not found your answers for the bold statement you made about someone being penalised for tithing money. May I ask again: "who penalised anyone for using money as tithes? Who? Where? When?" So far, the comments you are making hitherto are deviating from those simple questions.

Aunty stop trying to be clever by half, the fact that nobody was recorded to have been penalized in the bible for paying monetary tithes does not mean the bible did not give clear instructions against it. The instruction is clearly stated in the scriptures below: Leviticus 27:30-31:

30 “One tenth of the produce of the land, whether grain from the fields or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord and must be set apart to him as holy. 31 If you want to buy back the Lord’s tenth of the grain or fruit, you must pay its value, plus 20 percent.

The additional 20% surcharge is clearly a penalty for monetizing the tithes. tongue

Christianity Etc › Re: What About First Fruit? by KunleOshob(m): 5:38pm On Oct 21, 2009

Topics like this [first fruit offerings] are one of the reasons apostle paul warned of of false teachers that would make up clever lies to get hold of our money. When someone is telling you first fruit = first salary you have a perfect example of a clever lie. Clever lies are adaptation of truth to make them have a semblance of truth in them. Another brilliant example of cleverlie popular in some christian sects today is mordern day adaptation of tithes whose practise as been significantly twisted and alien to the original form of tithing handed down to the jews.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 5:23pm On Oct 21, 2009

Classical pilgrim.1 grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Christians Judgemental & Over Zealous by KunleOshob(m): 12:38pm On Oct 21, 2009

jagunlabi:
Point of correction.Christianity was officially formed in rome which was in the west.

I don't agree with the above statement. What you mean is western christianity which spread to other parts of the world was instituitionalized in rome. There were other christian churches that were never descent from the RCC infact they ran parrallely to it in the acncient times and some of them still exist today. Examples are , Coptic church in Egypt, Ethopian Orthodox church, Greek catholic church and the Syrian Orthodox church. These are all christian churches whose roots are not traceable to rome.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Teach That Good Unbelievers Can Go To Heaven? by KunleOshob(m): 2:45pm On Oct 20, 2009

noetic15:
Let me personalise it.

A. Do u (kunle) believe that Jesus died and rose? Yes i do.
B. Do u (kunle) believe that (A) is the basis and centre of Jesus mission on earth? No, his primary mission on earth is to teach the truth of God's will and love to mankind.
C. Do u (kunle) believe that without believing in event (A), one can make heaven? Belief in event (A) is not taught as a condition to mak heaven anywhere in the bible.
D. Do u (kunle) believe in the salvation of Jesus? I do believe in the salvation of Jesus, but the problem is that your understanding of the salvation concept of Jesus gospel is different from mine. Belief in Jesus is belief and obeying his teachings/commandments which goes deeper than the shallow belief that he just came and died. This is very clear from the scriptures, however the church has obscured to true meaning of salvation. You nee to open your mind read the scriptures again from scratch and let the holy spirit feed your spirit whilst you divorce your mind from popular pulpit gibberish.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Noetic Interview: Questions On Humanity And The Quality Of Goodness by KunleOshob(m): 8:22am On Oct 20, 2009

Romans 13:8-10:
Love Fulfills God’s Requirements
8 Owe nothing to anyone—except for your obligation to love one another. If you love your neighbor, you will fulfill the requirements of God’s law. 9 For the commandments say, “You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not covet.” These—and other such commandments—are summed up in this one commandment: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no wrong to others, so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Noetic Interview: Questions On Humanity And The Quality Of Goodness by KunleOshob(m): 8:17am On Oct 20, 2009

noetic15:
does the bible support this assertion?

Yes it does cheesy

John 15:9-13:

9 “I have loved you even as the Father has loved me. Remain in my love. 10 When you obey my commandments, you remain in my love, just as I obey my Father’s commandments and remain in his love. 11 I have told you these things so that you will be filled with my joy. Yes, your joy will overflow! 12 This is my commandment: Love each other in the same way I have loved you. 13 There is no greater love than to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.

Christianity Etc › Re: UFO's And Christian Beliefs? by KunleOshob(m): 7:35pm On Oct 19, 2009

@deepsight
In the light of the above could you let us know your opinion on the "extra-terrestrial God theory"

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Teach That Good Unbelievers Can Go To Heaven? by KunleOshob(m): 7:04pm On Oct 19, 2009

My brother, i am not a dogmatic christian the truth is that there are perceived contradictions in the scripture that is supposed to be "inerrant" as a seeker of the truth i would like to keep an open mind and not just stick to any particular belief becos it is the generally accepted belief. i am a berean christian as such i seek to verify all truths. Forums like this are a good opportunity to learn diverse opinions on topics and as such form an informed opinion. However the way my mind is working given the perceived contradictions is either of two things:
[1] Translation errors
[2] Deliberate stretching of the truth by biblical authors due to their over zealousness in the preaching of the gospel. This stretching of the truth constantly happens in our churches today for various reasons.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Teach That Good Unbelievers Can Go To Heaven? by KunleOshob(m): 7:00pm On Oct 19, 2009

Christianity Etc › Re: UFO's And Christian Beliefs? by KunleOshob(m): 6:50pm On Oct 19, 2009

@Deepsight
You seem to have abandoned this thread now, given the correlations we have been able to draw on "UFO's and christian beliefs" i would like to know how the submissions on this thread has altered[if at all ] your perception of the subject matter.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Perfect,Self-Sustaining? by KunleOshob(m): 6:48pm On Oct 19, 2009

jagunlabi:
If you watch the last video link i gave in one of these threads of a docu that made a difference between "the gods" and the creator,the perspective is very close to mine.I found the docu and it's content very very compellin,indeed.

Could you repost the video link here? I don't think i saw it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Teach That Good Unbelievers Can Go To Heaven? by KunleOshob(m): 6:25pm On Oct 19, 2009

Deep Sight:
I verily believe that his commandments to believe in him, thus referred to obeying his commandment of Love, and nothing more. I can state this because he himself described what it entails to believe in him. HE said - "If you love me, you will obey my commandments." Thus a Mahatma Ghandi (a hindu)who goes through life spreading love and peace and brotherhood, already has "Christ" in him, much more than any person who proclaims belief in Christ, without those acts of love.

It is my suspicion that the above submission is one of the deeper truths in the teachings of christ obscured by the the church over the centuries due to dogmatism and personal agenda of church leaders.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 6:04pm On Oct 19, 2009

Other scriptural evidence against this unhealthy greed for church collections in the excuse of collecting money for "God"

Acts 17:24-25:

24 “He is the God who made the world and everything in it. Since he is Lord of heaven and earth, he doesn’t live in man-made temples[church buildings], 25 and human hands can’t serve his needs—for he has no needs. He himself gives life and breath to everything, and he satisfies every need.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 6:00pm On Oct 19, 2009

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=307798.msg4763033#msg4763033 date=1255967236]@ Ogajims,

1. All you've been saying so far are TWISTING TWISTING TWISTING, cant you just come up with a bible verse that reject the practse of tithing explicitly rather than arguing baselessly so far, becos i just promised not to do any biblical quoting for you again as it appears i know you type[/quote]@Tonye-t
Stop being dishonest you know hebrews 7:5-19 not only out laws tithing it also condenms it as a weak, useless and unprofitable practise. tongue

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Teach That Good Unbelievers Can Go To Heaven? by KunleOshob(m): 5:53pm On Oct 19, 2009

For now i would not give personal opinions or comments rather i would implore Noetic to explain these scriptures to me. he evaded them on a previous thread so i would repeat them here. His explaination of these scriptures would then elicit further comments from me.

Revelation 20:11-13:
The Final Judgment
11 And I saw a great white throne and the one sitting on it. The earth and sky fled from his presence, but they found no place to hide. 12 I saw the dead, both great and small, standing before God’s throne. And the books were opened, including the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to what they had done, as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. And all were judged according to their deeds.

Matthew 25:31-40:
The Final Judgment
31 “But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit upon his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered in his presence, and he will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will place the sheep at his right hand and the goats at his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home. 36 I was naked, and you gave me clothing. I was sick, and you cared for me. I was in prison, and you visited me.’
37 “Then these righteous ones will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 Or a stranger and show you hospitality? Or naked and give you clothing? 39 When did we ever see you sick or in prison and visit you?’
40 “And the King will say, ‘I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!’

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by KunleOshob(m): 4:32pm On Oct 19, 2009

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=307798.msg4762301#msg4762301 date=1255961158]hey pastor AIO before you start pecking and picking have you read this scriptures?

How are they to live without the support from the gospel, . . dont act hypocritical, read scriptures b4 you talk wink

And to Mr.KunleOshod,
Bro, dont you have points again, or are you dry, mr.Anti-tither cheesy

[/quote]Trust me i can never stop or slow down my campaigm against the evil and heretical preaching of compulsary mordern day tithing. However i decided to take a back sit since there are others also very well equpped to fight this scam on this forum. that apart my 'girlfriend' pilgrim.1 is back on the forum and she has a way of getting under my skin and infurating me with her scriptural gynastics and 'skillfull' manipulation of doctrine. It would actually be healthier for me to just sit back and let others point out her delusions to her rather than doing it personally. I would just continue to remember her in my prayers and hopes she repents from this false teachings b4 it is too late.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Teach That Good Unbelievers Can Go To Heaven? by KunleOshob(m): 4:20pm On Oct 19, 2009

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=339878.msg4762748#msg4762748 date=1255965127]Hey kunle,

where was it that you were trying to make me see something? i dont even know the origin of the discussion you had with noetic and feel so lost and yet you are saying you were trying to explain something to me. hmmmm. . . Kunle are you ok? undecided

[/quote]I have amended the post so stop ranting tongue

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