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the only time efcc should be allowed to investigate churches should be when there is a specific report indicating that activities of this particular church violates the criminal code. a blanket probe on ALL churches should not be allowed for any reason.

What do you think about christians participating in politics. especially in the Nigerian context.

And what about Rev. Chris Okotie? What happens to his church while he is serving as president? Don't you think the calling of a pastor is higher than that of a king?

All state governors get dem wahala. even tinubu of lagos. if na only becos of the legalisation of thugs [area boys, agbero]. young, able bodied men stand on our roads collecting money dem no do nothing to earn. Add to this the obvious choice of Lagos as the dirtiest metropolis in the world. its even dirtier than mumbai, india.

Hugoboi:
This is talk for another day !@!!

Oh boy! this is talk for now now!!

grouppoint
i am begining to understand what you mean, though it really hasn't sunk in. there is actually a difference between God knowing what we will do and His determining what we will do. i think it is His determining what we will do that infringes on our free will. and i guess his omniscience ONLY knows not determines our actions. That swhat i deducted from this statement you made: "Even if you change your mind 12 times along the way, God still knows your eventuall choice. (I did not say that God still determines your choice for you).". am i onthe same track you're on?

na only camp on ibadan expressway? they also have sunday services [the one in festac town dey block road], weddings with white wedding gowns and cakes, night vigils, and so on. YOU ONLY IMITATE AUTHENTIC STUFF

HURRAY TO MIZIEYA!!! - THE DEVILS SPOKES PERSON.
AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU WILL BE TOO BIG EVEN FOR SATAN TO ACCOMODATE.
YOU WILL BE GIVEN A MATCHSTICK BY HIM TO GO START YOUR VERY OWN HELLFIRE - THAT IS IF YOU DONT REPENT

is it me or is all of this a little confusing?

@Grouppoint: please can you just in as few sentences a possible explain where our freewill and Gods Omniscience converge?

hey enigma
exegesis? me?? was just trying to explain what i thot was true.
Now to your comment; look at your verse 1: "God stands in the assembly of God"; you see the initial problem with this version even despite the insertion of "of representatives
i agree with ur comment on vs 1, but it really doesnt affect my point
You say the judges will only die because they judged wrongfully; will the judges not have "died" even if they had judged rightly?
yes they would have died but not like mere men. see the NIV.
Does the fact that people are described as "children of the Most High", on its own, mean they are gods?
from my understanding of the verse the same people were called "gods" AND "children of the most high"
Finally, the word translated as "gods' there is "Elohim"; it might interest you to know that even the devil, satan, is called "Elohim" in the Bible: in what sense then is satan/the devil a "god" or indeed God
yes you are absolutely right, but then again 2 Corinthians 4:4 calls the devil the god of this world.

finally looking through john 10, i find nothing to indicate what you said in your first post.

thanks.

Hugoboi!!!
Atlantis? Re-Incarnation?? PROOOFFF?

TayoD:
There was indeed a pre-adamic world, and the evidence is available in the Bible. Personally, I believe the beings we know as demons today were the inhabitants of the earth in that period. I think I can point out evidences that point to this conclusion from the scriptures.

lets hear you TayoD. as in scriptural backing. By "inhabitants of the earth" did u mean fallen angels?

enigma, i beg to disagree. lets look at psalm 82 again. [by the way i use the amplified].

Vs 1- GOD STANDS in the assembly [of the representatives] of God; in the midst of the magistrates or judges He gives judgment [as] among the gods true the gods talked about are the judges or representatives of God.

vs 6 - I said, You are gods [since you judge on My behalf, as My representatives]; indeed, all of you are children of the Most High.(A) as can be seen the gods are children of the most high

vs - 7 But you shall die as men and fall as one of the princes. they will only die because they judged wrongfully. see vs 2-5.

vs 6 categorically states that the gods are children of the most high.

most people who have authenticated tb joshua on this thread have done so based on the miracles. everybody talks about "the miracles of God." what about "the God of Miracles"? i have listened to him a few times on tv and honestly i no pick anything from the man. his teaching all seem rehearsed. this is my own personal opinion sha o! as some said " my spirit no just agree wit the man spirit". for me the Word is the most important factor. remember " He exalts his word above his name."

simple question: was there a world before Genesis 1? if not please answer these questions.
1. there is no record of the creation of water in genesis 1. so when was it created?
2. what did God mean when He asked man to re-plenish the earth? remember replenish means to fill up something that has been depleted.
3. when God banished lucifer from heaven which earth did he fall to? was it the one that already contained adam and eve?

whats d fuss about tribes? i am yoruba. my wife is from edo state. my mum is ijaw. her mum is Ghanaian. i grew up in delta state. dated a few ibo girls when i was single. and believe me whatever problems u can get from someone of a different tribe u can get from someone from ur own backyard. it just depends on how much u know the person. end of story.

this is the most stupid thread i've ever come accross. firdaus4us just looks for opportunity to create discord (funny, he usually succeeds). we all know the reason yeshua is called jesus in english, isa in arabic and pronounced Hesus in spanish. same reason why john , jean ,johann, jan, sean, juan and johanu are actually the same name. joseph, yusuf, jose, yosef and youssuou same name. same reason why alexander, alexandre, alejandro and allessandro all refer to the same macedonian emperor. football fans know that Juventus is actually pronounced 'yuventus', ajax as 'ayax'. its just a language thing. and if anyone thinks it affects our relationship with our God, the person should have his head examined. you can go check , MY GOD UNDERSTANDS EVERY LANGUAGE.

the category is longest dance party. whether they slept or not the party continued abi? naija carry go!!! the most important thing to me is that they determined to do somthing good and they did it. very un-nigerian.

i'm the most blessed man alive cos i'm married to d most wonderful woman in the world.

this is the question i keep asking catholics that say they dont worship these statues "why do u need these statues? would God not answer your prayers if u just close ur eyes and pray to Him?" and why do u need saints to help u pray to God? would God not hear u if u talk to him your self? and mary? what is really her essence? if for example the president asks me to come to him and ask him anything, i wont ask his mother for help, would i?

what if God is Omniscience in the sense that He knows all possible choices anybody can make at any given time and all the possible consequences of these choices? viewed from this point i dont see a conflict between Gods Omniscience and our free will.

there is a huge market o, did u know that nigeria has by far the lowest per capita usage of LPG in the west african sub region? did u know that gas flaring will be stopped in nigeria next year? and that the oil companies are trying to figure out what to do with the enormous quantity of gas that will be made available from next year? there's big biz about to start in LPG very soon. i'm trying to figure out a way to catch in on it. you should too

i like prison break a lot, but 24? Oh my God!!! even my mother wakes up 3am to watch. cant beat the suspense. imagine all that can happen in just 24 hours. makes u wonder

o boy gist me, whats happening? dem no escape abi?

I am a fan of the hit tv serial 24 featuring kiefer sutherland as jack bauer. i love season 2 becos i think the storyline is the tightest so far with more twists and turns and a climax with more suspense than any tv series has a right to have. whats your opinion? please let me know.

godfather trilogy, al pacino: the best actor oscars only recognised once
brave heart, now, thats a story
the insider, pacino again, russel crowe, i love intrigues
face/off, the kind of movie that'll makes violence beautifull
tremors, doubt if y'all ever saw it
oceans 11, insideman, swordfish,italian job and all good robbery movies
devils advocate, okay i love al pacino
phone booth, give the scripwriter a kiss for me
the recruit, ok no more pacino movies

and lets not forget 24 (esp season 2) and prison break

correct me if i'm wrong but there seems to be some sadness in the countenance of deeper life people. like they are afraid to actually live. "he came to give us life, abundantly" i am a christian too, but i don believe just becos a lady wears earings and perms her hair, then she is no more a christian.

amen , tayoD

enugu, i agree wit u all da way, if i waz juw0n wit the replies given by mfm members to this post, i for no near the church lai lai, i know quite a lot of mfm guys whos faith i can vouch for [ as much as anyone can vouch for any ones faith], but i have a friend whose muslim sibling said he will never be a christian because the mfm church close to his house are always praying 'die by fire. die by fire' every nite vigil