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Mintayo: I knw nw...jus as it has given d ppl in d northern Nigeria;jus lyk it is given dem in iraq,iran,pakistan,egypt,sudan,kenya,saudi arabia etc right...i doubt if u knw wt peace is! Peaceful enough dt dey(muslims) r movin to non-muslim countries,leavin der war torn countries?wt peace hs it given 2d children of Stephen house in abk whose parents where killed by som ppl shoutin Allahu akbar?

That's why your christian brothers are running to abu dahabi and other islamic countries to work.

Who started the first world war ? Muslims ? Who started the second world war ? Muslims ? Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ? Muslims ?? Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? Muslims ?? Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America ? Muslims ?? Who killed more than 50 millions of Indians in south America ? Muslims ??Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and was thrown in Atlantic ocean ? Muslims?? America is greatest terrorist in the world.

buahahah...only an ignorant person l believ dt!soi shld join Islam bcus it is d fastest growing religion?
A religion which has no salvation plan 4me? No redemption plan,no reconciliation??A religion which says i wld go 2hell 1st den later paradise if allah pleases? A religion which says black ppl l go to hell?
A religion whose founder said himself dt he doesnt knw where he will end up,whether hell or paradise? A religion soaked and synonymous to terrorisma religion whose ideology is FORCE N KILLINGS
Cancer is a deadly disease n it spread n kills fast too sou knw i v always blive dt bfore until a muslim converts from iran told me odawise which i found out 2b true[b]der r millions of non-muslims in islamic countries(who lies dt dey r muslims 2 prevent persecution n harrasment).muslim cn easily c convert 2 islam bt more muslims who leave islam r invisibl 2 muslims bcus dey mostly leave islam secretly,so dt dey wnt b killed as apostate,q 4:89.[/b]so lyk i said continue 2 delude ur self..islam actually dying&top islamic scholas ard d world knw dis!

Blah Blah,no sense.Where's your proof? Islam has no salvation plan,yet many people keep embracing it.Seriously,you've no proof,don't die in your ignorance,it's only when angel of death comes to you,that you will realise that Jesus(pbuh) was only a messenger and has no share in divinity,and by then it will be too late to accept the religion of the creator.

weda u belive it or nt,Jesus died and He arose!y wld u believ,mohammed is long dead&rotten,he cnt appear 2 anyone ofcourse,an helples muderer...lols.
Lyk i said bfore,Jesus appear 2 whomever He choses,somethin mohammed or allah cnt do...Glory 2 God,IF D OP TELLS U AW JESUS LUK LYK,WILL U BELIEVE HIM

Let the op tell us,can God die? Jesus died and rose again,and he is God? Who was controlling the world then?I swear you have no proof.

.you knw,in my search for d truth, i found out that d epistle of pauls and d gospel was carefully removed by mohammed bcus those epistles are written to christains and they exposes mohammed lies,they r proofs of his fabricated lies,dey put a pamanent judgement on d quran-no wonder,just like satan,muslims hates paul,its anoda reason y i cnt accept islam-d religion of satan himself!

What's he saying now? Fool,was muhammed(pbuh) before paul or paul was after muhammed(pbuh)? Can't you think? What's prophet muhammed(pbuh)'s problem with paul? You are really sick.Nobody is forcing to accept,but you will regret later.

will u believ d Op? I doubt if u knw who a liar is?thank God dt it wasnt only him dt has an encountr wit Jesus!cn som1 v an encounter wit a dead mohammeddis shows aw REAL christainity is!

Are you the op? The op has ran away,he can't withstand the truth,he fled.He never answer the simple questions.

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i am nt a christain bcus my parents r christain-dt wld v been a terrible mistake;when it is time for Jesus to judge d world,my parents l nt answer 4 me,everyman 4 himself,it wld b a mistak 4 any1 2b a christain cus his/ha parents her christains.Christainity is a personal encounta,conviction,xperience.(wit Jesus).
ironically do u knw y som ppl cnt leave islam?so many ppl r afraid of persecution,a friend of mine said 2me 1 day dt if HE LEAVES ISLAM,HIS PARENTS WILL KILL HIM(dis&many more shows 2me dt islam is a satanic BONDAGE,a CAGE), i haerd of somone else who changed to islam&his parents disown Him-withdraw him from private school and send him packing!i read a book abt a pakistani woman who ran to new york after she converted bcus d muslims cleric wanted to kill her...islam is satan bondage,islam is terror,islam is darkness,it is satan's religion! It can only take Jesus 4som1 2b release!

Cocoon,and your parents were beheaded when they accepted christianity If your story is true?Keep saying rubbish.

Islam has nothing to offer,no LIFE,either here on earth or after earth!

John 10:10-Jesus said, '
Satan came to kill,to steal and to destroy! (does that sounds familiar)
and He continues-
But I(Jesus) came to give you LIFE and give you abundantly!
Halleluyah...i have life in Jesus!

I pray you Find him and that Jesus will reveal Himself to you!

Shalom.

You will realise Islam has many to offer when you are put in your grave.....Peace

@Brother Isiri and brother tintingz,just leave mintayo alone to wander blindly in his error.All what he posted is rubbish,brother tintingz I think you have known mintayo for sometimes now,he will never admit he is wrong,same with his friend(alexis).They have been brainwashed to the extent that they can reason again,don't waste your precious time with him.....Peace

Mintayo: There is no big deal actually...ppl change to whatever they like...where i am here, a lady too just converted to christainity,so?

So congrats to u-i hope dt islam satisfy u and give u d peace u desire!

Islam will surely give him the peace of mind,that's the best.The fastest growing religion in the world is ISLAM.A statistics was released by an american magazine in 1992 and it gives the rate by which religion throughout the world has increased through the span of 30years,1950-1980.The statistics put ISLAM as number one with an increase of 237%,christianity only grow by 34%.The fastest growing religion in europe,america,africa and all over the world is ISLAM.Join the religion of peace

But let me tell u what u,lanre and d likes dnt knw-there thousands of ppl who converts to christainity without Jesus appearing to dem!
Jesus appears to whomever He wishes and for HIS own purpose-at His own time!
My parents were muslims&they converted to christainity-Jesus didnt appear to dem. They had an experience,an encounter, a conviction(which i believ u didnt v,cus if u do,u wnt leave christainity).
when Jesus appear to ppl-it is for His own purpose and on a rare circumstances

Funny,I have heard different people having different encounters with different Jesus.I read someone's encounter and Jesus he claimed he saw had holes in his hands(maybe the holes of the alleged crucifixion)lolz.
Different funny stories,almost half of christians always had a dream having encounters with Jesus,a journey to hell.I read another book titled 3 hours interview in hell,he also gave another account.Let's the op tells us how Jesus looks like,maybe we can recognize him If he appears to us.

Paul had an encounter with Jesus on His way to damascus as he wanted to go and persecute christains!
Like d Op too,Jesus appeared to him in mecca(a supposed muslim holy land-dt is for a reason).
I knw a muslim lecturer teaching islamic studies in a northern university whom Jesus appear to in His office!

Jesus appear to ppl as HE wishes(since He is d Lord). He doesn't need to appear to u bfore u cn change to christainity,He decides to appear to anyone He desires! I bet u dnt knw aw many ppl that converts to christainity in crusades,camps etc,Jesus didnt appear to them-but His Spirit(d Holy Spirit) convicts dem!
When i became a christain too,Jesus didnt appear to me,but He lives in my heart-in me,also with everyone who has accepted Him as their Lord and saviour!
Also,the Bible is more than enough to reveal Jesus to you-from Genesis to Revelations-Jesus was revealed!
Thank God for His Spirit who teaches us into all TRUTH!

1 John 2:19.
They went out from us,but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt would have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. (belong to us)

You,the op and apostle paul are liars.You took after paul
your mentor.The op never answered any questions posed to him about his encounter with alleged Jesus.

Pls can i ask you some questions and i will indulge you to answer them sincerely
- how did u become a christain?
-where u born again as a christain?

Shalom.

How can someone become a christian? Through preaching or you are following your parents blindly,either of the two.Some people do convert to christianity because of the following reasons.
1)Poverty,it's only christians that you organize a crusade and promised its audience food and free transport.So someone that hasn't eat a good meal that day will just hurry there,leaving his religion.
2)Trial by Allah;When Allah test people with certain trials,they wouldn't have patience to bear it patiently,then christian crusaders will come telling him that Jesus had died for his sins,all his problems are solved,funny people.Only Allah solves problems.If you accepted Islam,nobody will tell you that you won't encounter problems again,Allah will surely test you to ascertain your faith.As Allah said in the glorious Quran in surah Al-ankabout 29;2-''Do people think that they will be left alone because they say;We believe,and will not be tested?''
The more trials you have,and how you bear them the more closer you come to Allah,and the more his favours and mercy He shall shower on you in this world and the hereafter.
3)Deceit;Performing miracles in crusades whereas they can't perform such in hospitals.Many people are blind and cripple,they won't heal those ones.They will just stage a crusade and heal fake cripples and blind,making fool on their audience.....Peace

Isiri: Am also a xtian and convert to islam so wat d big deal. No white or arab man appear to me I accept islam based on wat I learn here

That's great brother.You don't need anybody to appear to you.The op and his friends are just liars.Guidance comes directly from Allah to one's heart.....Peace

Mintayo: atleast u nw knw that good deeds cnt take you to heaven!
very typical of u...maybe you shld read it from verses 33,huh?
And then compare with Romans 10:8-12

Seriously,you've got problems.Jesus said every man will give accounts of their deeds on the day of judgement and you said good deeds can't take you to heaven again,shame on you.

cherry-picking the Bible again!
Anyway we are talking about 'd name of allah here'.

Why not read d whole of d story instead!
From d above u just shown that Jesus is God

I am not cherry-picking,I am mango-picking the bible.So God can't do nothing of himself? Jesus said I can of myself do nothing and he's God? You have really been brainwashed by your pastors,some of you christians are just like robots.

what cheat codes? Pls tell me!
I have shown you where Jesus gave us the authority to pray, heal and do miracle in His name, but u ignore that!

If you ask Jesus for help when he was alive,when on earth,he will grant it to you.But asking for help from the unseen should be for God alone,the creator and cherisher of mankind.A brother just converted to Islam and told us how he also healed the blind and let the lame walked,but all those blind and lame he healed were fake,not original ones.It was staged to make fool out the people and deceive the public.

so many misconception and misinterpretations!

Why don't you give us the interpretations and clear the misconceptions?

I am done with this thread but i will let you again-that no good deeds can take you to heaven!

In my search for d truth,i have seen d technique satan is using to decieve ppl-that doing good will get you to heaven!

-Budhist beleiv in their god too and they believ in doing good too!
-same thing with hindu and so many false religion too!
They will say that there is a god and mankind must do good to v eternal life!
-moralist also believ in doing good!

you are now taking after the op,don't run away na.For good deeds to be accepted,they are two conditions needed.
1)It must be totally for the sake of the one and only one true God(Allah),the creator and sustainer of mankind,not to show-off nor to gain praise and fame.
2)It must be in accordance to the ways and teachings of the last and final messenger prophet muhammed(pbuh).

But what abt d sinful man? What plans do these gods have for d sinful man? How do they intend to wash away man's sinful nature?- this is d basis of Redemption and reconciliation to God through Christ Jesus!
This issue is a serious matter that doing good alone cannot provide any solution to it!

You have limited God to the extent that God cannot forgive by sacrificing someone for the sins of others.What about those before Jesus,are they going to he'll because Jesus didn't die for their sins?

I pray that God will give u and d rest understanding and that He will open ur eyes to the TRUTH!

John 8:32.
And you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.

Shalom.

Brother,where's the truth? The truth is here in Islam-peace acquired by submitting one's will to the creator Allah(swt).Better don't die in your falsehood.....Peace

Mintayo: i wnt answer you on this one,since you knw d Bible very well,u can check it up and show me where Noah said 'he is the way,the truth and the life'!
Or you can show me any prophet that said that! Or did mohammed said that?
John 14:6-7.
6. Jesus said unto him, I am the way,the truth and the life: no man come unto the Father, but by me.
7. If ye had known me,ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know Him, and have seen Him.

I was banned for repeating the same answer to you,brother tintingz has answered your questions.

John 3:5
Jesus answered, verily, verily,I say unto thee,Except a man be born again,HE CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD!

Good deeds will not save you,it is only faith in Jesus christ that will save you...
some athiest do 'good' than you,it doesnt mean that they are saved!

How can you Christians take deeds as irrelevant after becoming one when Jesus says in Matthew 12:36; "But I say unto you that every idle word that men shall speak,they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment.For by the words thou shalt be justified,and by the words thou shalt be condemned"?

are u serious? So why didnt mohammed raise any dead in allah's name?
Jesus didn't raise any dead in allah's name; so stop that lie! Or do u want me to show u d no of pple He raised?
Luke 10:19.
Jesus said to His disciples:
Behold I give you power(authority)...

John 14:14.(NLT) Jesus said...
Yes,ask me for anything in my name,and I will do it!
(you cn read-up mark 16:15-18, if u are sincere anyways).
After Jesus left,His apostles healed the sick,raised the dead IN THE NAME OF JESUS not allah

Gospel of matthew 12;28-''And I casts out devils with the spirit of God''.
Gospel of John 5;30-''I can of myself do nothing''.

really? Where you there with them? You planned it together right?
You knw, i attended Reinherd Bonnkey's crusade to and so many pple were healed from their disease,crippled work,blind saw and so many ppl converted ;all in JESUS' NAME !

Seriously,the sister is still dumb after attending the seminar,and She strongly believed in Christ.We know all those cheat codes they are using
.

I will leave u with this
John 3:16-17.
For God so loved the world,that He gave His ONLY BEGOTTEN son,that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE.
17. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; THAT THE WORLD THROUGH HIM MIGHT BE SAVED.

peace.

You Christians say that people go to Heaven ONLY THROUGH
JESUS, yet Paul says in 1 CORINTHIANS 7:8-16 that the unbelieving
husband is acceptable to God because he is united with his wife
and vice versa,and their pagan children are also acceptable to
God.So people can go to heaven without believing in Jesus
according to this.
How come the Bible says that ALL Israel is saved although
they don’t believe in Jesus? Doesn’t that contradict the claim in the
Bible that the only way to heaven is through Jesus?.....Peace

Ayomivic: @ lanrexlan, i have questions to ask you concerning the Hadith Abu-Hurarai you quoted or requoted on this thread.

1 Can one deceive Allah?

In the Abu-Huraria hadith you quoted we were told of how last man in hell deceived God that God should turn his face away from the wind of fire that dried him and the stream of fire that burnt him and he made a pledge and convenant not to aske of any favor again if his wish is granted but when his wish was granted he went on to demand and demand until he enter paradise without fufiled his pledges and covenants. Do you think God who is all knowing , God who will hold men guilty for all promises they made and fail could allow that?

Brother,nobody can deceive Allah.The last paragraph told how unsatisfying man is,man is never satisfied.Allah knows the man will keep asking for help.In an hadith qudsi,on the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him),from among the things he reports from his Lord (mighty and sublime be He),is that he said: “A servant [of Allah’s] committed a sin and said:O Allah,forgive me my sin.And He (glorified and exalted be He)said:My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them.Then he sinned again and said:O Lord, forgive me my sin.And He (glorified and exalted be He) said:My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them.Then he sinned again and said:O Lord, forgive me my sin.And He (glorified and exalted be He) said:My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for sins. Do what you wish, for I have forgiven you.It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari).So Allah knows man can't be satisfied,it's narrated in another hadith where Allah said;Today,my mercy prevailed over my wrath.Another hadith where it is said Allah created mercy into 100parts,kept 99 with him and sent 1 to his creatures.So,It shows how merciful Allah is.

2 Is Allah two or how many Allah do Muslims have?
Because In the same hadith when the last man in hell made the last request that Allah should let him enter paradise with another promise not to ask any favor again.then Allah made one statement he said 'MAY ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON YOU SON OF ADAM'

Which Allah is this allah refering to that may have mercy on son of Adam? You know one Allah was removing people from hell to paradise.it was this allah that say may allah have mercy on son of Adam .if he refers to himself, he would not use 'MAY' but 'I' hope you get it?

I got you bro,there's only one Allah.Allah said in the glorious Quran in surah ikhlas 112;1-4-''Say;He is Allah,one and only.Allah the absolute,the eternal.He begets not nor was he begotten and there is none comparable to him''.So,Allah is referring to himself as Allah.

3 How did Muhammed know how God will judged on the judgement day? I think from that hadith, you had made us understand that all Christian, jew and idol worshiper will go to hell but only muslims will go to paradise.

It was revealed to him,the hadith I quoted is part of the collection of hadith known as QUDSI.These hadiths are called sacred hadiths,they are forty in number.These hadiths aren't the sayings of the prophet(pbuh)directly because it was revealed to him in his dreams.

4. According to that hadith, does that mean that any muslims who observed salat regularlly with salat's mark on their fore head will go to paradise no matter their wrong deed and wickedness on earth?
pls answer these questions

The hadith told us that people will pass on the sirat(bridge)after being laid across hell.Some will pass across successfully without having any scraps,some will suffer some scraps because of their bad deeds,maybe a minute while some will fall into into hell.Those that fell into hell will be punished in hell for their bad deeds they earned while on earth,but because they used to offer SOLAT and the traces is there,after the punishment for their bad doings,their brothers that has passed across without falling into hell will plead with Allah on their behalf,and Allah will order the angels to take them out and purify them by throwing them in a river near paradise and they will grow on its banks,hope that answers your questions brother.........Peace

truthman2012: The two of you: ayenny02 and lanrexclan think you are making sense. People would have discovered you are not.

The sensible and educated ones among you like tbaba, ghazzal, maclatunji etc cannot say the nonsense you are saying because of their integrity.

But you can just say anything, you just have to defend you religion even if you have to say nonsense. You are deceiving yourselves.

Lolz,we are now saying nonsense because we dismantled your claims.Let tbaba or maclantunji comes here to see our claims,maybe we are making sense or not.....Peace

Mintayo: prophets are life,way and truth to people they are sent to...did u c that in ur quran? Is that what allah tot u?

Welcome my friend.Do you know something? During the lifetime of Noah(pbuh),he was the way,truth and life to his people.Nobody will get to heaven except through the teachings of Noah(pbuh).All the people that obeyed Noah(pbuh)was saved in the ark,others that disobeyed him(those ones that rejected Noah(pbuh)as the way,truth and life to God) perish.The same applies to every prophet of God,they are life,way and truth to the nation they are sent to.Jesus said in Gospel of Matthew 15;24-''And he answered,I was not sent except to the house of the lost sheep of Israel''.

i know it pains you to c him leave islam and
you dnt v to believ him and again u cnt understand; it is a mystery!

seriously,you amused me.Why should it pain me? Allah said in the glorious Quran in surah Fatir 35;18-''And no bearer of burdens shall bear another's burden''.So why should it pain me? It's for his own good,to him belong his deeds,to me belong my deeds,

And i am nt surprised, afterall,i v nt heard that someone was raised to life 'in mohammed's name' or allah's name'!- IT CANT HAPPEN!

Jesus raised the dead in Allah's name(surah Al-imran 3;49).My advice to all your pastors raising the dead,they should kindly visit mortuary to raise those people that are dead,they will have more followers in that way.

No life in mohammed- a long dead soul who cant help himself bt pray to allah to forgive him for d 'wrongs' he has done!
Who doesn't knw where He was gonna end,whether heaven or hell--do u think such a man is worth believeing or following?

I pity you.Jesus(pbuh) also prayed to God,so no big deal.Hope you know the Lord's prayer?

Jesus is Life,He is the way,the truth and the life-He is the way to God! He is d way to heaven not paradise!

To the lost sheep of israel.

Like i said somebody rising from d dead in d name of Jesus is not new to us bcus there is power in His name!

He love you and He is waiting for you!

Jesus said in Gospel of John 5;30-''I can of myself do nothing''.All those healings and raising from the dead are planned work.I knew someone who is deaf and dumb and he attended bonkay's revival,man it's still the same,no difference.If you wanna heal,go to hospitals and perform miracles,we won't need doctors again,people will just embrace christianity directly.......Peace

benalvino: Ur question makes no sense... There is no if God is three... There is only one God. All the miracles you know that happens... People coming back from dead, sea splitting and many more yet you think God doesn't have a plan? Bible made it clear that God manifest in flesh.

There's only one God.It makes a lot of sense,if God manifest in flesh then that means Jesus is God right? The question is If Jesus is God in flesh,he always pray to his father God in heaven,then God wasn't incomplete when on earth,and an incomplete God also in heaven?.....Peace

highyo: 1john 2:22 who is a liar,a liar is the one who said Jesus is not the son of God. He is a liar and an antichrist,which you heard he was coming. For he has not believe in God and his son

Jesus is the word of God
John 1-5
The Word of Life

1 In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 From the very beginning the Word was with God.

3 Through him God made all things; not one thing in all creation was made without him.

4 The Word was the source of life, and this life brought light to people.

5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has never put it out.

10 The Word was in the world, and though God made the world through him, yet the world did not recognize him.


14 The Word became a human being and, full of grace and truth, lived among us. We saw his glory, the glory which he received as the Father's only Son.

The word is Jesus.
You don't need any other explaination on this

You Christians claim that Jesus was God as you quote in John 1:1"In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God,and the Word was God".This is John speaking and not Jesus.Also,the Greek word for the first occurrence of God is HOTHEOS which means "the God" or "God" with a capital "G",while the Greek word for its second occurrence is "TONTHEOS",which means "a god " or "god" with a small "g". Isn’t this dishonesty and inconsistency on the part of those christian scholars translating the Greek Bible? ? Isn’t such quotation in John 1:1 recognized by every Christian scholar of the Bible to have been written by a Jew named Philo Alexandria way before Jesus and John?Wasn’t the word "god" or "TONTHEOS" also used to refer to others as well as in II Corinthians 4:4 "(and the Devil is) the god of this world" and in Exodus 7:1 "See,I have made thee (Moses ) a god to Pharaoh"? Brother,the WORD that was with God is something known as CREATIVE POWER.Only God creates from nothing,he only possesses this power.If Jesus(pbuh) possesses this power,he should have created wine out of nothing
.And if Jesus is God,he shouldn't have rebuked the man that called him GOOD in matthew 19;16-17 but objected being called Good,he said only God is Good.Finally, the word became flesh means the plan and purpose of GOD from the foundation of the world, was now made manifest in the flesh.

@mintayo, don't let yours look like those that were trying to help the ark of convenant not to fall and end up dying trying to help God.

Pls I appreciate all your contribution but try to be careful not to sin willing soul for God
Since you've said yours and yet they fail to comprehend, then leave the rest for God

We can't comprehend baseless points.....Peace

nlMediator: The trinity is NOT pagan. It is the Word of God. Many pagan cultures have ideas that are contained in the Word of God. Does not invalidate God's Word. It just shows that many ideas from God circulated before the Jews wrote them down.

I must say however that the concept of Trinity is hard to comprehend by the natural mind. When you study or even read the Bible with the Holy Spirit giving you revelation, it's so easy to see the Trinity in many portions of the Bible. God takes it for granted when He's dealing with His children who have revelation, but knows it is complicated for those outside.

Simple questions for you bro.
If God is one and three simultaneously, then none of the three could be the complete God.Granting that such was the case,then when Jesus was on earth, he wasn’t a complete God,nor was the "father in Heaven" a whole God.Doesn’t that contradict what Jesus always said about His God and our God in heaven,his Lord and our Lord?Does that also mean that there was no complete god then,between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed resurrection?
If God is one and three at a time,then who was the God in heaven when Jesus was on earth? Wouldn’t this contradict his many references to a God in Heaven that sent him?
If God is three and one at the same time, who was the God in Heaven within three days between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed resurrection?.....Peace

shdemidemi: My bother, when God said 'let us make man in our image and likeness', please answer straight who was he talking to?

Brother,God was referring to himself.We have eloHIM,'IM' in hebrew language is a plural of respect,not the plural of quantity.

The bible says the 'in the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the word was God' and 'the word became flesh and dwelt with us'...who is the word that became flesh?

Christians claim that Jesus was God as they quote in John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God,and the Word was God".This is John speaking and not Jesus.Also,the Greek word for the first occurrence of God is HOTHEOS which means "the God" or "God" with a capital "G",while the Greek word for its second occurrence is "TONTHEOS",which means "a god " or "god" with a small "g".Isn’t this dishonesty and inconsistency on the part of those christian scholars translating the Greek Bible to english?Isn’t such quotation in John 1:1 recognized by every Christian scholar of the Bible to have been written by a Jew named Philo Alexandria way before Jesus and John?Wasn’t the word "god" or "TONTHEOS" also used to refer to others as well as in II Corinthians 4:4 "(and the Devil is) the god of this world"and in Exodus 7:1 "See,I have made thee (Moses ) a god to Pharaoh"?.....Peace

truthman2012: You guys post COUNTERFEITS and besides, I cannot flow with your low level of reasonings. Instead of making your points, you resort to war of words - Boko Haram spirit. If you people are allowed into heaven with islamic spirit, you will bomb heaven.

The thread is so clear and the readers already know what they need to know

Lolz,we are just telling you where you made mistakes.Readers that can digest lies abi?.

Let me leave you with this:
Pickthall 3:55
(And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those WHO FOLLOW thee ABOVE those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me (i.e Heaven) ye will (all) return, and I judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ.

While Allah promised Jesus and His followers (Christians) heaven as can be seen in 3:55, He promised Muhammad and his followers (muslims) HELLFIRE as in Pickthall 19:71- 72.

Behold! Allah said:"O Jesus!I will take thee and raise thee to
Myself and clear thee(of the falsehoods)of those who blaspheme;
I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject
Faith,to the Day of Resurrection;then shall ye all return unto Me,
and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute(surah Al-IMRAN 3;55).
Ooh,Let me explain the verse to you.Jesus(pbuh) is the only prophet whom some of his followers claimed Jesus claimed divinity;i.e. He's God or son of God.Those ones(who blaspheme Jesus by attributing false things)are those who reject faith and they disbelieve in him.Those that followed him are those with him during his lifetime,they were his real followers(monotheist-they believed and worshipped none but one true God).As Allah said in the glorious Quran in surah Al-imran 3;52-''Then when Jesus came to know of their disbelief,he said;Who will be my helpers in Allah's cause? The disciples said;We are helpers of Allah,we believe in Allah and bear witness that we are muslims(submit to Allah)''.
That's what Allah meant by saying making those that followed him(his disciples and the people that are monotheist during his time-unitarians)above those that disbelieved in him and associated falsehood to him(Trinitarians and those that called Jesus God or son of God).We muslims aren't those that disbelieve in Jesus,we don't associate falsehood to him.We believe in everything Allah told us about him in the Quran;born miraculously,give life to the dead by Allah's permission,heal those born leper and blind by Allah's permission,was a slave and prophet of Allah and so on.
So Brother,the verse is a warning to the people that disbelieve in Jesus by calling him God or son of God,not muslims.....Peace

truthman2012: @ lanrexlan

May God forgive you for denying the truth and trying to confuse the innocent muslims who should cry to Jesus for salvation

Who's denying the truth? I am explaining the simple thing you can't comprehend easily to you.

The first hadith said the muslims will be called from HELLFIRE identifying them with the mark of prostrations. It says it is only the mark of prostrations that will not be consumed by Fire and they will COME OUT OF FIRE as mere skeletons to cross the bridge to Paradise.

Do you even read the hadith at all? The hadith said when muslims both the pious ones and mischievous ones passed across the bridge,the pious ones will pass across successful without falling but those that are hypocrites and mischievous will fall into hell.After the intercession of the prophets,the pious believers will then plead with Allah on behalf of the mischievous ones.Then Allah will command the angels to go hell and take out from those mischievous muslims those who have faith equal to an ant,they will take them out by recognizing them by traces of the prostration.Then
those with faith equal to a mustard seed and so on.Talking about the mischievous muslims coming out of the fire,nowhere does it says all muslims are in hell,a bridge will be laid across hell and everybody will pass over including all the prophets,they aren't coming from hell.

Muhammad will be the first to cross. All other muslims will be shouting 'Save us, Save us'. It is a pity nobody can be saved from Hell

Shame on you,simple english you can't comprehend.

Do you call those people with the mark of prostrations in HELLFIRE Christians? Do Christians have mark of prostrations?

Those are the mischievous muslims whose bad deeds made them to fall into hell.They will be recognized by traces of their prostration

You just went and cooked something to counter the truth. May God forgive you. Your integrity on NL is at stake as a poster. Nobody will take you seriously again

You are the one that your integrity on NL is at stake,simple thing you can't understand.Just prepared your lies
,mr liar.

Quran 19:72
But We shall save those who guarded againt evil and We shall LEAVE the wrongdoers THEREIN (humbled) to their kneels.

This quranic verse testifies to the hadith by saying the JUST will be saved (taken out) from the HELLFIRE they are inside and the EVILDOERS will be LEFT THEREIN (inside it)

.You don't understand the Quran,the believers will be saved from falling into hell when passing over the bridge.They will be saved from hell,you decided to add your own words 'Taken out',that's not in the Quran.Allah said in the glorious Quran in surah Al-Anbiyaa 21;97-103

97)Then will the True Promise draw nigh (of fulfillment):then behold! the eyes of the Unbelievers will fixedly stare in horror: "Ah! woe to us!we were indeed heedless of this; nay we truly did wrong!
98)Verily you,(Unbelievers) and the (false) gods that you worship besides Allah,are (but)fuel for Hell!To it will you(surely)come!
99)If these had been gods they would not have got there!But each one will abide therein.
100)There,sobbing will be their lot nor will they there hear(aught else).
101)Those for whom the Good (Record) from Us has gone before, will be removed far therefrom.
102)Not the slightest sound will they hear of Hell:what their souls desired, in that will they dwell.
103)The Great Terror will bring them no grief:but the angels will meet them (with mutual greetings): "This is your Day― (the Day) that ye were promised."Let's hope you can comprehend.

This clearly means ALL muslims are inside HELLFIRE including Muhammad and on the Day of Resurrection, the just will be taken out and the evildoers will be left inside it. So clear. It is only a DULLARD that will dispute this

Where did you see all muslims will be inside hell? Keep adding your words.

If the hadith is wrong, is Allah too wrong in the Surah 19:72 that I explained above?

Allah had decreed that ALL muslims will go to HELLFIRE and nobody can change His decree.

Funny man,and all christians to paradise right? You ignored the hadith I quoted about the christians falling into hell......Peace

Seriously,you've got problems.See the full hadith
Narated By Abu Huraira:The people said,"O Allah's Apostle!Shall
we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied,"Do you
have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy)
night?"They replied,"No,O Allah's Apostle!" He said,"Do you
have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?"
They replied in the negative.He said, "You will see Allah (your
Lord)in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection,people will be
gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to
worship.So some of them will follow the sun,some will follow
the moon,and some will follow other deities;and only this nation
(Muslims)will be left with its hypocrites.Allah will come to them
and say,'I am Your Lord.They will say, 'We shall stay in this
place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come,we
will recognize Him.Then Allah will come to them again and say,'I
am your Lord.'They will say, 'You are our Lord.Allah will call
them,and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I
(Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it
with my followers.Nobody except the Apostles will then be able
to speak and they will be saying then,'O Allah! Save us. O Allah
Save us.'
There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell.Have you
seen the thorns of Sa'dan?"The people said,"Yes." He said, These
hookswill be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah
knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people
according to their deeds;some of them will fall and stay in Hell
forever;others will receive punishment(torn into small pieces)and
will get out of Hell,till when Allah intends mercy on whomeverHe
likes amongst the people of Hell,He will order the angels to take
out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone.The angels
will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of
prostrations,for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away
those traces.So they will come out of the Fire,it will eat away
from the whole of the human body except the marks of the
prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere
skeletons.The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a
result they will grow lik the seeds growing on the bank of
flowing water.Then when Allah had finished from the Judgments
amongst his creations,one man will be left between Hell and
Paradise and he will be the last man from the people of Hell to
enter paradise.He will be facing Hell, and will say, 'O Allah!Turn
my face from the fire as its wind has dried me and its steam has
burnt me.' Allah will ask him, "Will you ask for anything more in
case this favor is granted to you?'He will say, No by Your
(Honor) Power!And he will give to his Lord (Allah) what he will of
the pledges and the covenants.Allah will then turn his face from
the Fire.When he will face Paradise and will see its charm,he will
remain quiet as long as Allah will. He then will say, 'O my Lord! Let
me go tothe gate of Paradise.' Allah will ask him,'Didn't you give
pledges and make covenants (to the effect)that you would not ask
for anythingmore than what you requested at first?'He will say,
'O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched, amongst Your
creatures.Allah will say, 'If this request is granted,will you then
ask for anything else?' He will say,'No! By Your Power! I shall not
ask for anything else.Then he will give to his Lord what He will of
the pledges and the covenants.Allah will then let him go to the
gate of Paradise. On reaching then and seeing its life,charm, and
pleasure,he will remain quiet as long as Allah wills and then will
say,'O my Lord !Let me enter Paradise.' Allah will say,May Allah
be merciful unto you,O son of Adam! How treacherous you are!
Haven't you made covenants and given pledges that you will not
ask for anything more that what you have been given?He will
say,'O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst
Your creatures.So Allah will laugh and allow him to enter
Paradise and will ask him to request as much as he likes.He will
do so till all his desires have been fulfilled. Then Allah will say,
Request more of such and such things.Allah will remind him and
when allhis desires and wishes; have been fulfilled, Allah will say
"All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides." Abu Said
Al-Khudri,said to Abu Huraira, 'Allah's Apostle said,"Allah said,
'That is for you and ten times more like it.Abu Huraira said,"I do
not remember from Allah's Apostle except (his saying), 'All this is
granted to you and a similar amount besides.Abu Sahd said,I
heard him saying,That is for you and ten times more the like of
it.

kingron: Well..i was once a muslim also,nd am happy to be a convert, christ is real nd he wud always be real. after dying as a muslim on a cold night nd coming back to life with d help of a pastor who prayed 4me (was told) i know christ is d way!!! it's really not hard to see that Jesus is d way,d truth nd d light.

Haha,I am laughing out loud,you died and came back? You people are even funny,almost all christians will die and come back or will visit hell with christ.Better tell the reason why you converted,maybe Allah tried you with a trial to test your faith and you can't bear it patiently,then you ran away.My advise to your pastor,he should visit hospitals and mortuary to raise people from the dead in order to accept christ.@all prophets are life,way and truth to people they are sent to.....Peace

Surah Maryam 19;66-73.
66)Man says:"What! when I am dead, hall I then be raised up alive?"
67)But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of
nothing?
68)So by thy Lord,without doubt,We shall gather them together,
and (also) the Evil Ones (with them);then shall We bring them
forth on their knees round about Hell;
69)Then shall We certainly drag out from every sect all those who
were worst in obstinate rebellion against(Allah)Most Gracious.
70)And certainly We know best those who are most worthy of being
burned therein.
71)Not one of you but will pass over it:this is,with thy Lord,a
Decree which must be accomplished.
72)But We shall save those who guarded against evil,and We shall
leave the wrongdoers therein,(humbled)to their knees.
73)When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them,the Unbelievers say
to those who believe,Which of the two sides is best in point of
position?Which makes the best show in council?"
Those verses above are very clear,I just don't know the problem you've got.Allah said will pass over it[/b]not [b]will come out of it.The hadith you quoted said the believers after they have been saved by Allah(passing over the bridge),they will plead with Allah on behalf of their brothers who fell into hell.That's what it meant by taking out of hell people that recognized by traces of their prostration.
Brother,after death the next thing is LIFE IN BARZAKAH.Life in the grave,this world is a test for the hereafter,you will get a part of your good and bad deeds on earth,a part in the gave and the utmost reward is on the day of Judgement.That's the final recompense,....Peace

Mr man,see the full context of the hadith
Narrated Abu Sa’eed Al-Khudree:We said,“O Allaah’s Messenger!
Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?”He said,“Do
you have any difficulty in seeing the sun and the moon when the
sky is clear?”We said,“No.”He said,“So you will have no
difficulty in seeing your Lord on that Day as you have no difficulty
in seeing the sun and the moon (in a clear sky).The prophet(pbuh)ﻠﻢthen said,“Somebody will then announce,‘Let
every nation follow what they used to worship.So the people of
the Cross will go with their Cross, and the idolaters (will go) with
their idols, and the worshipers of every god (false deities) (will go)
with their god, till there remain those who used to worship Allaah
from the righteous pious ones and the mischievous evil ones,and
some of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians).Then
Hell will be presented before them as if it were a mirage.Then it
will be said to the Jews,‘What did you use to worship?’ They will
reply,‘We used to worship ‘Uzayr (Ezra), the son of Allah.It will
be said to them,You are liars,for Allah has neither a wife nor a
son.What do you want (now)?’They will reply, ‘We want You to
provide us with water.Then it will be said to them ‘Drink,’ and
they will fall down in Hell (instead). Then it will be said to the
Christians,What did you use to worship?They will reply,We
used to worship Al-Maseeh (the Messiah, i.e. Jesus),the son of
Allaah.It will be said,You are liars, for Allaah has neither a wife
nor a son. What do you want (now)?They will say,We want
You to provide us with water.It will be said to them,Drink,and
they will fall down in Hell (instead),till there remain only those
who used to worship Allaah(Alone), the righteous pious ones and
the mischievous evil ones.It will be said to them,‘What keeps
you here when all the people have gone?They will say,‘We left
them (in the world) when we were in greater need of them than
we are today, we heard the call of one proclaiming:Let every
nation follow what they used to worship,and now we are
waiting for our Lord.Then the All-Mighty will come to them in a
shape other than the one which they saw the first time,and He
will say,‘I am your Lord,and they will say, ‘You are our Lord.’
And none will speak to Him then but the Prophets,and then it will
be said to them,Do you know any sign by which you can
recognize Him?They will say,‘The Shin,’ and so Allaah will then
uncover His Shin, whereupon every believer will prostrate before
Him,and there will remain those who used to prostrate before
Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.One of
such will try to prostrate but his back (bones)will become a single
(vertebra) bone (like one piece of a wood and they will not be able
to prostrate).Then the bridge will be brought and laid across Hell.”
We,the Companions of the Prophetﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ said,
“O Allaah’s Messenger! What is the bridge?”He said,“It is a
slippery (bridge) on which there are clamps and (hooks like)a
thorny seed that is wide at one side and narrow at the other and
has thorns with bent ends.Such a thorny seed is found in Najd
and is called As-Sa’daan.Some of the believers will cross the
bridge as quickly as the wink of an eye, some others as quick as
lightning,a strong wind, fast horses or she-camels.So some will
be safe without any harm;some will be safe after receiving some
scratches;and some will fall down into Hell (Fire).The last person
will cross as if being dragged (over the bridge).The Prophetﻰﺍﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ said,“You (Muslims)cannot be more pressing in
claiming from me a right that has been clearly proved to be yours
than the believers in interceding with All-Mighty for their (Muslim)
brothers on that Day,when they see themselves safe. They will
say,‘O Allaah! (Save) our brothers (for they)used to offer prayer
with us,observe Saum (fasting) with us,and also do good deeds
with us.Allaahﺗﻌﺎﻟﻰ will say, ‘Go and take out (of Hell) anyone in
whose heart you find Faith equal to the weight of one (gold)
Deenaar.Allaah will forbid the Fire to burn the faces of those
sinners.They will go to them and find some of them in Hell (Fire)
up to their feet, and some up to the middle of their legs.So they
will take out those whom they will recognize and then they will
return,and Allaah will say (to them),‘Go and take out (of Hell)
anyone in whose heart you find Faith equal to the weight of half
Deenaar.’ They will take out whomsoever they will recognize and
return,and then Allaah will say,‘Go and take out (of Hell) anyone
in whose heart you find Faith equal to the weight of an atom (or a
small ant).’ And so they will take out all those whom they will
recognize.
This is the full hadith,explanations coming on it and on those verses you quoted.....Peace

cleanvessel: ayenny02 & lanrexlan

The fight for your religion should stop. Your soul is more important than your religion

What do you mean,are you christian or an atheist?

There are so many things in the Quran that make a spiritually minded people to doubt it as being the word of the true God.

Muhammad did a lot of things that if a man does same today, even you people will shout.

Allah made some statements that the true God will not make

Are you here with proofs or here to criticize?Produce your proofs If you are truthful.

Then the Quran is a third party information, even though you people say it is from Allah. Muhammad dictated the revelations to the scribes to write down. What is the certainty that what Allah told him, which he dictated was the ones written down by the scribes.

Human memory is not perfect. There is no certainty that he remembered everything Allah told him, since it took some years before he appointed scribes to put them in writing. If what he remember was more or it was less, it would give a different meaning from Allah's intentions

Allah said in the glorious Quran in surah Al-baqarah 2;23-''And If you are in doubt about what we have revealed from time to time to our slave,then bring a surah(chapter)like thereof and call your helpers and witnesses besides Allah If you are truthful''.

Finally, no matter how beautiful, authoritative and authentic you people say the Quran is, what it promises its faithful is HELLFIRE. And that shows Quran is not the word of the true God and Islam does not grant SALVATION. All muslims are in Helfire and once in hell is forever in hell.

Surah Al-Asr 103;1-3-''Verily by time,mankind is in manifest loss.Except those that believe(articles of faith),those that do righteous deeds and call people towards the truth,and call people towards patience''.
You have no proof,just came here to write rubbish.....Peace

Mintayo: answering ur question will not change anything...it will only add to ur ignorance! Pls give me d names of the historians? Or are they ur uncle?

Lolz,see funny dude.You had a degree in ignorance and its related studies.The Bible's books and gospels were:Written by mysterious men.Written by an unknown number of men. Written in unknown places.Written in unknown dates.Paul never even met Jesus Christ in person while the latter was on earth.It is falsely claimed that Jesus appeared to Paul while Paul was on his way to Damascus after the "crucifixion" (Acts 9:2-4. Note: Paul's name used to be Saul.Yet, Paul admittedly wasn't even sure whether the Holy Spirit was inspirning him or not). None of the disciples,even in the false writings attributed to them, ever claimed that their writings were inspired or Divine. Not only that, but we even ironically see that:Luke for instance,wrote his "gospel" for the sake of another person and not GOD Almighty.For example
,The Gospel of Matthew:The unknown author,whom we shall continue to call Matthew for the sake of convenience,drew no only up the Gospel according to Mark but upon a large body of material(principally, sayings of Jesus)not found in Mk that corresponds, sometimes exactly, to material found also in the Gospel according to Luke.(The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1008)As for the place where the gospel was composed,a plausible suggestion is that it was Antioch,the capital of the Roman province of Syria. (The New American Bible,ISBN:978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1009)So we clearly see,both the author or authors and the place of composition of the "Gospel of Matthew" are unknown.For that of luke;Although the book is anonymous,apart from the ancient heading "According to Mark" in manuscripts, it has traditionally been assigned to John Mark,in whose mother's house (at Jerusalem) Christians assembled. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1064)" "Although there is no direct internal evidence of authorship,it was the unanimous testimony of the early church that this Gospel was written by John Mark. (From the NIV Bible Commentary [1], page 1488)" We certainly do not know whether Mark was the author or not!The quote clearly states"no direct internal evidence of authorship''.Also,the so-called unanimous testimony of the early church.

And your quran was compiled by who? allah(in a language dt is confusing?)? Or d illiterate mohammed? his followers?

The glorious Quran was revealed over a period of 23years and has been memorized by millions of people since it was revealed.Cocoon,do you expect Allah to reveal the quran in yoruba language?

go through dis thread,u will c dt d verses have been produced times without number...or r u playing d blind-game again?

Mr liar,you haven't produce a verse where Jesus Himself said I am God or where he said worship me,his own unequivocal statement.

you knw v always been ignoring ayenni cus no wisdom is found in d guy at all!
Have u heard of d 'beautitudes?' d first preaching of Jesus-

'blessed are the pure in heart...

Those ppl called blessed there are they d father or mother of Jesus bcu dey r called blessed?

Do u see why i ignore him? Even my four-year old cousin knw dt the pharisee were refering to God!

Lolz,and you have wisdom abi? It's because brother ayenny has exposed all those lies and fabrications in your bible.Comparing you and brother ayenny is like comparing a dead man and a living man.I told you the other time that you need a RAM and memory card in order to process information faster.

what abt ur brothers who are killing for ur god? R dey nt brainwashed too?

Adolf hitler killed 6millions Jews,was he a muslim? George washington is greater terrorist in the world,was he a muslim? Islam ruled spain for 800 years,and the christians crusades came and killed almost every muslim in spain,that anyone can't give the ADHAN(call to prayer)openly,what about that?

i dnt expect u to believ nw afterall ur allah is only capable of writtn on a 'rock'!

See you,a child was born in lagos with the glorious Quran,name of Allah appeared of a meat in ibadan,a tree found in ruko facing the qiblah directly found in sydney,name of Allah appeared on a fish,name of Allah appeared in a tomato.I can go on and on to give the wonders and miracles of Allah found throughout the world.Allah keeps on showing you his signs,yet those that won't believe will never believe.Why don't we see Jesus is God or Jesus is the savior and Lord on a rock,or I AM on a rock?

And again u dnt knw anything abt vision and revelations and mohammed was a mortal man nw,long dead,so aw cn he appear to anybody
If the op tells u d colour of Jesus and what He was wearing,will u still believ him?

Let the op answer the simple questions posed to him.I don't blame both of you,you took after your mentor apostle paul the deceiver.Paul said in Romans 3;7-''For If the truth of God has increased through my lies to his glory,why am I also judged as a sinner?'' He gave you the opportunity to use falsehood to propagate your religion.Better don't die in your ignorance.

Jesus died for d whole world,including mohammed and u,u still v a chance of accepting Him!
He loves you!

I have already accepted Christ,he was no more than a human being and a messenger of God.Anything beyond that is invalid.....Peace

Mintayo: your opinion does not matter,after all u r nt d writer of d Bible-stop equating Jesus with mohammed who was a slave and servant of ur god allah! Jesus was and is neither-He came to d world as a son of God and He is God-and u cant change that!

Funny Dude,you ignored my questions.No need wasting my time with you,who's the author of the bible? Compilation of words of historians.

can u see dt u r a liar and it is only a liar like urself will take you serious? Why nt finish d matthew above instead of lying that Jesus said nothing
Vs 64 says that:
Jesus said unto him, thou hast said:....

Produce a verse from the complete bible where Jesus himself said I am God or where he said worship me.You keep ignoring it.
Jesus never called himself son of God,brother ayenny explained the meaning of [b]SON OF THE BLESSED ONE[/b]to you,but your eyes are blind you can't see,your brain can't reason at all.



u mean ur moon god allah?

Can't u see d guy has left falsehood to the TRUTH?
Jesus did what ur mohammed can't do; He has revealed Himself to d Op-and i bet ur mohammed or allah cnt do that-afterall,he has no SALVATION plan for u guys!

If u truthfully ask Him-Jesus will do d same for u too-He will reveal Himself to u too!

He is waiting!

Lolz,I wonder how people believed that erroneous and stupid story of the op,that story was nothing but fabricated lies.The op was asked simple questions,he can't reply.Not your faults,you have been brainwashed big time I swear......Peace

Paris_Love: In addition to that, it seems the reason why muslim women wear hijab is not spiritual, nor is it piety. Covering the hair/face cannot be considered an act of modesty because muslim men are not required to cover theirs. What's stopping women or homosexuals from lusting after them?

And don't tell me they're to lower gaze because that would invalidate the use of hijab since nobody would be gazing at anybody. It wouldn't stop women and gays from lusting after them either.

The Hijab was first prescribed for men.Allah said in the glorious Quran in surah Al-Nur 24;30-''Tell the believing men to lower their gaze(from looking at forbidden things)and protect their private parts(from illegal sexual acts).That's purer for them.Verily,Allah is all-acquainted with what they do''.
Prophet muhammed(pbuh) said when a man looks at a women and a lustful thought comes into his mind,he should lower his gaze,but If he looks at her unintentionally,then the first look is permitted,but he shouldn't look at her the second time in order to look at her beauty which is forbidden.

Sister,Hijab is not a scarf or head tie.Then for women,surah Al-Nur 24;31-''And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be
modest,and to display of their adornment only that which
is apparent,and to draw their veils over their bosoms,and
not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands
or fathers or husbands' fathers,or their sons or their
husbands' sons,or their brothers or their brothers' sons or
sisters' sons,or their women,or their slaves,or male
attendants who lack vigour,or children who know naught
of women's unclothedness.And let them not stamp their feet
so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment.And turn
unto Allah together,O believers,in order that ye may
succeed''.
The criterias for wearing Hijab in islam are six.They are;
1)For males,they must cover their body from the shoulders up to the ankles;For females,the entire body should be cover,the only part that can be seen is the face and hands up to the wrists.Some scholars said the face too should be covered,but it's not fard(compulsory)but mustahab(highly recommended).
2)The clothes must not be too tight that it will reveal the figure.
3)It must not be too glamorous that it will attracts opposite sex.
4)It must not be transparent that people can see through it.
5)It should not resemble the opposite sex.
6)It must not resemble that of disbelievers.
And Hijab doesn't deal with dressing alone,it also deal with how you talk,how you interact with people of your sex and opposite sex,how you walk etc.It deals completely with modesty.....Peace

[quote author=Mintayo]

You have said it all my dear...this people read the Bible so much that i doubt whether they read d quran at all...well i can'tblame them; you have to go to the truth to know the truth...alleluyah!

So for a man that can refute a single claim,both of you should be fooling around in your error until the hour came upon you suddenly.

There is no point arguing with them because it is the same question they ask everyday!

You haven't answer a simple question

They don't believ that Jesus is God and a saviour because that places Him higher than mohammed! But they dnt knw that Jesus will judge d whole world including mohammed!

Stop beating around the bush,produce a verse from the bible where Jesus himself said I am God or where he said worship me.Christ doesn't mean saviour,it was derived from the word MESSIAH which means anointed translated to CHRISTOS in greek.Many places in the bible used the word MESSIAH

They dont believe that Jesus is the saviour because it is a slap on allah who is so limited!

Lolz,see funny dude.You are the one limiting God,thinking he is a man like you that begets offsprings anyhow.It doesn't befit the majesty of creator of heavens and the earth and all between them to have offsprings.We are all his creatures whom he created.

They don't believe that Jesus died and ressurected because mohammed died and was never risen; also its beyond their thinking!

Question,when Jesus comes back in the second coming,is he going to die or come with an airplane to take all christians for rapture,just curious.

But they believ does not matter, Jesus is Lord over all,their nothing anybody can do about it!

I even,I am the Lord, and beside me there is no saviour." (Isaiah 43:11)
"Look unto me,and be ye saved, all the end of the earth: for I am God, and there is non else." (Isaiah 45:22)God talking,not Jesus

I pray that the Lord will open their eyes of understanding and d veils d devil is using to cover their faces will be open in Jesus' name!

You need the prayer,they have really brainwashed you with falsehood and trinity syndrome.....Peace

truthman2012: All your quotations is still the quran testifying to itself. You should not expect it to say otherwise. Do you expect it to accept the accusations against it.

It was the same Satan who played the roles of Allah, Gabriel and Satan, all for DECEPTION.

Any spirit or man who denies the true status of Jesus is a LIAR and DECEIVER (1 John 2:22-23).

The contents of the Bible were not said in opposition to islam or Muhammad because islam had not come. The Bible was referring to the Pharisees and Saducees who were playing the roles muslims are playing today.

When Satan lost grip in using the Pharisees and Saducees because of the expanssion of Christianity, he came up with another strategy by introducing islam. Muslims and Pharisees and Saducees are one and the same in belief and faith.

Brother,read Isaiah 29;12-''And the book is delivered to the one that is not learned,saying read this,I pray thee and he said I'm not learned''.
Who's the unlearned and what's the book?

If you believe the quran is from satan(nausoubilah),then you must the bible is from satan also.

You said anyone that denies Jesus true status is a liar and deceiver,then his apostles are deceivers and liars.
Acts of Apostles 2;22-''O men of Israel,hear this words;Jesus of nazareth,A MAN approved of God amongst you through miracles and wonders which God did through him in you midst,and you bear witness.''
A MAN approved of God,meaning a prophet not son of God nor God nor God in Human flesh.

Gospel of John 5;30-''I can of myself do nothing,as I hear I judge and my judgement is righteous,for I seek not my own will but the will of my father you sent''.
Jesus can't do nothing by himself,all the miracles is performed is through God.....Peace

truthman2012: It is natural to be afraid when a person sees what is strange. That was what happened to Mary and Zacharia. But Gabriel told Mary ''Fear not''(Luke 1:30). He also told Zacharia ''Fear not'' (Luke 1:13). No report of torture or torment.

But when the satanic Gabriel appeared to Muhammad, no words of peace or encouragement. He just picked him and started punishing him for no offence. Can't you see the difference between the two Gabriel? I'm sure you have seen but only pretending.

Allah/Gabriel started his revelations with FALSEHOOD and VIOLENCE. How could he say 'Read' when he did not come with any document? Read what? Lying spirit (Satan). If it is 'Recite', what has he said to Muhammad that he expected him to recite? Quran/Islam has a false foundation. You cannot build TRUTH on FALSE foundation.

Wait a minute: ''Who taught with pen''. What does that mean? How did Allah/Gabriel teach Muhammad with 'pen' (writing) and yet he remained an illiterate till death? The quran is full of lies. Allah likes writing so much and yet he chose an illiterate as his prophet. He writes on rock, tree, under the bridge, anywhere and on anything. Deceiver.

You cannot fulfil the Law in the power of the Flesh as muslims are trying to do:

Covering the faces of the women so that men will not see them to prevent fornication. But men dress like them and go into them.

Washing of body parts to appear neat before praying when the inside (heart) is full of dirt (Mat. 23:25). You can fight, abuse, kill but just observe your duty to Allah. The muslims are the Pharisees, hypocrites of today.

If the practice of the law (as muslims are doing) is enough, Jesus would not have come because the Pharisees and the Saducees were already doing that. Despite all their efforts in observing the law Jesus still called them hypocrites.

Finally, my advice to you is to accept Jesus and come out of a religion introduced by Satan. Hell is real.

Brother,how can satan inspired prophet muhammed(pbuh)? When the accusation you made against the prophet was made to him by the pagans of Makkah during the revelation of the glorious Quran,that prophet muhammed(pbuh) received revelations from satan,then Allah revealed the following verses.

In Surah Al-Waqiah 56;79-80''A book none can touch but the purified ones(The Angels).A revelation from the Lord of alamin(mankind,jinn and all that exists)''.

Surah Al-Isra 17;88-''Say;If mankind and jinn were together to produce the like of this Quran,they could not produce the like thereof,even If they helped one another''.
Surah Al-BAQARAH 2;23-And If you(Arab pagans,Jews and Christians) are in doubt concerning which We have sent down(Quran)to our slave(Muhammed(pbuh)),then bring a surah(chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses(supporters and helpers) besides Allah,if you are truthful''.

If the Quran is from satan(nausoubillah),then he(satan) will be telling his followers to seek refuge from the most gracious Allah when reading the Quran,and not to follow his footsteps abi?.Allah said in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-maidah 5;90-''O you believe! Intoxicants and gambling,using arrows for seeking luck or decision are abominations of satan's handiwork.So avoid strictly that abominations in order that you may be successful''.
Allah told muslims in many verses of the glorious Quran that we shouldn't follow the footsteps of the accursed one,satan.Verily,he is a plain enemy to humans.Allah posed many challenges to humanity that If the Quran is from any other person other than ALLAH,then should produce a book or a verse somewhat similar to the Quran.For the past 1,400years,nobody has ever to produce the like of the Quran......Peace

highyo: That Jesus which you are rejecting now, you will beg him for mercy if you end up where your mohammed end up.
Mohammed don't have any chance to repent again, but you still have it when you are still breathing, but after you leave the earth, no more opportunity for you o.
But as for me and my family, we will never stop serving Jesus the authour and finisher of our faith

But for you, you will never end up in heLl in Jesus name

As the lord liveth Jesus will deliver your soul from serving satan amen

Why not what if what these people are saying is true? Ok I will pray to the lord of Abraham Isaac and jacob to review the truth to me, or the creator of heaven and earth, let me know the truth. Don't pray to Allah, he will keep lying to you. Pray to God the creator of heaven and earth. He is not a liar, he is a living God and he will answer you for sure.

This brother is very funny,who's serving satan? In what verse of the bible does Jesus Christ(pbuh)himself say I'm God or where he said worship and serve me?
Jesus(pbuh)bowed and worship the only true God,and here you are serving Christ.Jesus no nothing about christianity,it was invented paul.Jesus will deny you,accept the monotheism which Jesus preached,and not to worship him.....Peace

highyo: If you decide to accept christ as your lord, you will be called into the family of God. And be address as children of God. But the only begotten son of God is Jesus christ. Only through Jesus you can be given a chance of being a child of God

He is the only living God. Do not listen to what people will say to you. Have you Ever seen and muslim converted to christain being abandone by Christ? Even despite the fact that people tried to kill them. I will give you a site to wach many muslim testimonies get converted to christains, if you need it I will give to you

One of the pastor that his message touched my life most was once a muslim. Pastor Abraham, the man who died and came back.

Don't say can only you be right and million of muslims be wrong?

Noah only was right and the whole world was wrong, so without Jesus, God is ready to destroy the million muslim in hell if they died without christ

Brother,Jesus isn't the only begotten son of God according to the bible.Read psalms 2;7,it says-''Thou(O David)art my son,this day I(God)has begotten thee''
David is also a begotten son of God,the bible has got two first borns of God,then what position is Jesus according to the bible?
Exodus 4;22-''Thus said thy Lord,israel is my son,even my FIRST BORN''.
Jeremiah 31;9-''and ephraim is my FIRST BORN''.
Brother,the fastest growing religion in the world is ISLAM.Leave that falsehood you are in,Jesus(pbuh) will deny you on the day of Judgement.....Peace

deSika: you say

now am going to ask you these questions. do a me a favor and answer

1. do muslims call Jesus a prophet
yes or no
2. this Jesus that muslims say is a prophet is he also the christ
yes or no
3. how can Jesus be the christ and also be called a prophet by muslims

He's a prophet,christ is a title given to Jesus(pbuh).Messiah in hebrew and it's translated to christos in greek.Messiah means ''ANOINTED''.Every prophet has a title given to him,Abraham(pbuh) was also known as Khaleelulah meaning friend of Allah,and he's still a messenger and prophet of God.Prophet muhammed(pbuh) was also known as Habililah and other names given to him,The same applies to all prophets,they have a title given to them,but that doesn't change the fact that they are prophets of ALLAH.......Peace

deSika: as expected yu ignored my earlier post. then tell me who are you decieving. your supposed prophecy about Mohammed is from the bible. atleast the bible should have mentioned somewhere that arabs are brethren to the jews.

you should have said that the brethren of the jews are the indians. did they not all come from one Adam. also they are not mentioned in the bible as brethren to the jews in the bible just as arabs are not mentoned as brethren in the bible. so they also fall in the same category.

u dont add interprerations to the bible. you may do that to the quran but not to the bible. you interprete from what you read.

welcome onboard to the world of truth.
......deSika ......showing truth in a commonsense way

Brother,replying you as like a waste of my time.I think you saw clearly how I showed you how arabs were brethren to Jews,but you ignored it.Asking for where they were mentioned exactly.The prophecy in John 1;25 stated clearly that Christ has already been asked about,so ''THE PROPHET'' cannot be Christ again,he is another person entirely,you came up with nullifying all other Jewish prophets leaving Jesus behind,in a statement that makes no meaning.If I were to go with your explanations,then Jesus should be nullified as ''THE PROPHET'' because he has already been mentioned.I gave you many similarities between muhammed(pbuh) and moses(pbuh) in deuteronomy 18;18-19,you said nothing about it.So,why wasting my precious time with you? The indians you mentioned has nothing to do with the prophecy because Abraham(pbuh)had two sons,Isaac(pbuh)-a Jew and Ismael(pbuh)-an Arab,both are brothers,where does indians come in? No need arguing further,see you next time......Peace