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Persia assisted the Babylonian Jews to resettle into Palestine led by Nehemiah. Cyrus was the Persian King. They were able to settle but Rome rose and subdued the whole area including Israel/Palestine. It was because of the Roman occupation of Israel that the Jews needed a messiah son of David To rescue them from Roman rule. Many political messiahs rose and were crushed by Rome. The Romans did not allow a particular one of the messiahs to be buried because his followers will start a rumour that he has resurrected. They therefore left the body to rot in a gully. The need for a nationalist hero to save the Jews from Rome is the foundation of Christianity, though Jesus unlike other messiahs did not rise in arms against Rome as did others before and after him until Israel was sacked around AD 70 by Rome. After then the Jesus story was tinged by Grecian, Egyptian and European theology to form modern Christianity.

In 2011, Steve Jobs who was one of the prominent US citizens watching Enoch Adeboye's drama in Nigeria died and he wrote a will which included me. I don't know how many millions or billions of dollars he left for me. He however gave the consenting power to Enoch Adeboye who immediately issued a prophecy saying the riches of some unbelievers will be transferred to the believers. As at that time in 2011, I still was attending his church. Steve Jobs was the unbeliever owner of the fortune while I was the believer. Things escalated quickly by March 2012 when I was sent to the psychiatry and I could no longer be called 'believer' again. Because of that, Enoch Adeboye did not consent to the will up till today. My business was upended and I was obstructed severally at the places I worked Meanwhile the President George W Bush Presidential Library was publishing my works and hinging me up as a member of the academia. This is twelve years since Steve Jobs willed me money and for that twelve years, Enoch Adeboye has sat on it. He was given the consenting right because he accused the CIA of setting him up to attack me with edited videos. Ok, take the Steve Jobs' will and use it to ask for forgiveness from Akin Lawanson. He has not been able to do that for twelve years.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid that is a biased claim from your person. Jesus Christ came as a redeemer for the people of Israel and Israel alone. If the God is God of Israel and Jesus Christ made clear that He too came to Israel alone, how can He be considered a heretic Jew Israelite?

He described himself to Jews as greater than Moses, David and etc and quoted scriptures to back up the claim. He also claimed to be peers with God. You can not make such claims and be left alone in Israel. Yes he saw himself as nationalist Jew. A messiah. There were many other nationalist Jews that believed that they were sent by God to save Israel from Roman domination. Even after death, their followers would claim they have risen from the dead. Therefore a particular one was slain by the Romans and beheaded but the Roman authorities did not allow the body to be buried. They left it to rot in a gully so that there will be no claim of resurrection etc.

Anita Oyakhilome: Beware of fake men of God.
When people talk about winning souls these days, I feel absolutely concerned for the so-called souls. It looks to me like a lion on a breakfast mission, in search for his hunt; he hides behind the grass for an unwise lamb that would wander away from the herd in search of fresh grass. This will be an easy catch and good feast for the lion’s plate.

When I hear these people talk about winning souls, I feel sorry for the souls who have no idea of what they are getting into. It sometimes sounds to me like blood-thirsty people desperate to count the number of innocent, ignorant people who will give their blood to be sucked. These souls are classified, as the needy, can undoubtedly be gullible in their search for solutions and wanting to identify or belong to a community.

These souls are caught when they are most vulnerable maybe they have lost a loved one, in a bad relationship with their parents or family, in need of healing or desperate for a change. At this point they will give anything and do anything without a second thought.

When caught by the wrong hands, they will start running in a wheel. Initially, the souls will be treated with some measure of care, so they do not detach. This will be short lived to prepare them to be trained as unconscious servants. Once the attachment is built, they would start attending endless meetings till they begin to be unavailable for their loved ones and disassociate from their families over time.

These souls will eventually give their energy away and with time they begin to feel tired, unhappy, sick, financially drained and depleted. Unknown to them, this new community and friends may be superficial. The souls might observe that sweet and bitter method of sucking their blood has gradually robbed them of their self worth. They might realize they have given their energy to somebody else and they are now hanging in the spider’s web.

They are tied up with daily and weekly responsibilities but if you look closely, their main leader is seating in a place of convenience by handling brief monthly meetings (not weekly) or occasional gatherings.

When I hear about souls, I have sympathy for those who give their blood to be sucked. They are simply prey to be used as objects in some people’s game. Incidentally, some of these souls have become wiser in seeking the opportunity to reap the reaper in his own game, like the buffalo who challenges the tiger.

From Faith to Science in a new dimension

There was an Indian Hindu I met online who complained bitterly on how Islam and Christianity are utterly determined to wipe out all traditional human cultures and their theologies off Earth surface. He opined that trying to convert people should be banned while every school of thought on God or theology focus on managing the people they already have so that Earth's cultures can remain in place. His view is commendable only that he categorized all theologies as peers and that is wrong. We have more than seven thousand cultures and languages on Earth and they are all peers. They have different names for God and all of them.have something pertaining to theology that they can bring to the table. Christianity and Islam are the odd ones out whose practice needs government regulation seriously. The propagation of those theologies (I call them religion) should be banned in the public fora.
Yet you can not stop someone from eating but someone can definitely be stopped from selling food. As it is with food, it is also with theology. A sound theology devoid of unsavoury and irrational claims about God is science in a new dimension. We all need it.

The time has come for all of us to take pride in our people, in who we WERE before Christianity and capitalism screwed up the world. All of us, regardless of skin color, have ancestry. Whether you're a Celt like I am, or a Cherokee, a Viking, a Greek, a Yoruba, an Igbo, a Xhosa, a Japanese...your people WERE something before the capitalists and Christlings came along to define us all by how much we could help the rich get richer. This is not "white pride," as classifying and oppressing people by skin color is a mercantilist Christling "innovation," and Africans have just as much right to pride in their heritage. We Celts and other European-derived peoples in the working class have *much* more in common with Africans than we ever will with the top 0.1%!

I encourage everyone reading this to reject Christianity, capitalism and mercantilism. Oh, there's nothing wrong with free markets, to a point, so long as they serve human needs. But people, Americans especially, have no pride in ourselves or our heritage anymore. I am a Celt. I am not a "consumer" or "worker" or other artificial industrial entity made up to "justify" parasitic economics. We must act in the interest of our own people, and put them first. If a political or economic system serves that end, then it should be tolerated. As soon as it ceases to (and capitalism ceased serving our peoples' interests long ago) it should be torn down.

I encourage discussion of this, but will not tolerate corporate shillery, sucking up to the elite, or other forms of antisocial pusillanimity on my FB page.

Benjamin Stockton.

trutharena:
If you no blind, you will see that Ogun and Oyo are the next highest state after Lagos and they make up the top 3 states in the whole Nigeria.

Lol that simply mean that more Yoruba are getting into universities and more Yoruba will be getting into the public sectors.

Stop shamelessly hiding under Lagos number. Talk to your governors to see why Igbos keep deserting the South East like maybe it is a war torn region.

There is no Yoruba man who does not have a friend or relative in the UK.

cosmatika:
Sowore is a fool.
He's not in the race to win, but to pull other ppl down.
Him and his fellow cashivist Deji Adeyanju are only interested in pulling Obi down.
The idiot is angry that the revolution sweeping across the country is not centred around him.
Ode

But you can not compare someone whose source of income is known to Peter Obi worth millions of dollars but can not explain how he came about the money according to reports. It is really dangerous to have such a person as President

Ogbe Okanran

Akokoro elubo ni nse odo
Gbankoko gbankoko

A difa fun Labogunde
Ni ojo ti nfi omije oju sogbere ire gbogbo.
Won ni o rubo
Lo ba ru bo
Ase Labogunde loba kan!
Ase Labogunde ni o Joye!
Labogunde ba joba Ewi LAdo!.
Awon eniyan o mo pe Labogunde Le joba!.
Ni nwa njo ni nwa yo!
Ni nyin awon Awo re
Awon Awo re nyin Ifa
Ifa nyin Olodumare
O ni bee ni awon Awo oun wi!.
Akokoro elubo ni nse odo gbankoko gbankoko
A difa fun Labogunde
Ti won o mu joba lode Ewi ni Ado
Enikan o gbo
Enikan o mo
A o mo pe Labogunde Le joba!
Enikañ o gbo Enikan o mo
A o mo pe Labogunde Le joba lode Ewi lado!.


Ogbe Okanran

Small pieces of elubo (yam flour) is what makes the mortar sound gbankoko gbankoko

This was Ifa's message for Labogunde on the day he wept for the lack of blessings in his life

He was advised to sacrifice
He listened to the ritual items and complied.
No one knew it was Labogunde's turn to be King!.
No one knew Labogunde would ascend the throne!.
Labogunde became the Ewi of Ado!
People did not know Labogunde would be the King!

He was dancing and rejoicing!
He praised his Awos
The Awos praised Ifa and Ifa praised Olodumare.
He said 'My Awos predicted it exactly!'.
Small pieces of elubo is what makes the mortar sound gbankoko gbankoko!
Was the Ifa cast for Labogunde
Who would be made the Ewi of Ado
No one heard
No one knew
We never knew Labogunde could become King!.
No one knew no one heard
No one knew Labogunde could become the Ewi of Ado!.

Ogbe Okanran

Akokoro elubo ni nse odo
Gbankoko gbankoko

A difa fun Labogunde
Ni ojo ti nfi omije oju sogbere ire gbogbo.
Won ni o rubo
Lo ba ru bo
Ase Labogunde loba kan!
Ase Labogunde ni o Joye!
Labogunde ba joba Ewi LAdo!.
Awon eniyan o mo pe Labogunde Le joba!.
Ni nwa njo ni nwa yo!
Ni nyin awon Awo re
Awon Awo re nyin Ifa
Ifa nyin Olodumare
O ni bee ni awon Awo oun wi!.
Akokoro elubo ni nse odo gbankoko gbankoko
A difa fun Labogunde
Ti won o mu joba lode Ewi ni Ado
Enikan o gbo
Enikan o mo
A o mo pe Labogunde Le joba!
Enikañ o gbo Enikan o mo
A o mo pe Labogunde Le joba lode Ewi lado!.

Ofun ika
The size of your arable land will ultimately determine the population of your taxpayers in a uniformly organized world
This was the IFA divination cast for the nations of the earth when they were crying for more citizens.
They were advised to sacrifice.
They listened to the ritual items and complied.
Not very long after that
Come and meet us in the midst of all blessings as all Awos are met sitted at the feet of Obarisa
Ase

State and Business Management
Inaugural Thesis.

What a Chief executive officer needs is common sense. Not skills but common sense. To multiply the revenue and reduce the expenses of a corporation he or she is heading is the summary of a Chief Executive Officer's job description. The job is similar to that of the President of a nation or leader of the government of a nation. The main difference is that the President of a nation is to seek mainly or primarily the welfare of the citizens and also seek profits for the nation's investments as a tangential duty while for the Chief executive officer of a business venture the primary task is to seek profits for the investors while the welfare of the workers is also paramount but more tangential than securing profits for those whose financial resources are under his or her care as CEO.
It is therefore easy to see that no CEO should be paid higher than the leader of government business within the same economic space because the state is also a big corporation that must balance its books, pay its debts, invest and see to the interest of the stakeholders just like any other corporation.
I have encountered many CEOs without common sense and inspite of this deficiency they may expect to earn non dividend income higher than the President of their nations and also may want to enjoy more of other non financial benefits. This should not be encouraged in any nation. No worker is holding a more important position in any country than the position of the President or the leader of government business in that country and as a rule, no worker at whatever post within the territory of a nation should earn a higher wage or gain more benefits than the leader of government business. This is very important so as not to rock the boat of the state. Any income that adds up to become higher than the President's income should come from investments and not from wages or benefits. The corporate space should be structured in such a way that any business, no matter how large the capital investment outlay, will be able to return at least five percent on the investment to investors per annum. A small business can grow by any percentage per annum. I have done five hundred percent per annum before but as the volume of capital invested is increasing, the management expenses is also increasing but with management expertise and good leadership, assorted stake holdership, visionary leadership and etc, bigger is always better.



Corporations and their sharp practices

Cooperative societies can lend money against assets as they do against savings but they can not advance money to corporations already owing far more than their tangible assets can cover. Many corporations in Nigeria as a result of the lean resources of the shareholders are owing definitely more than the tangible assets of those corporations can pay off if auctioned and this is the reason why the public trading of company stock must be abolished.
Public corporations borrow money using projected revenue as collateral and only governments should be able to do that and governments can do that only because all assets on ground within a nation's territory belongs to the government by default. This is so because all assets on ground are sources of revenue for a serious and efficient government while for a government yet to find its feet, assets inside its territory are potential revenue sources till that government starts to do things right.
The same can not be said of public corporations borrowing against revenue, market share or potential market share. A public corporation doing that is borrowing against the heads of the masses. Such a corporation is using the economy or the masses as cash cows to be milked of cash. Such a corporation is enslaving the market or the masses. They do not own the masses but plan to enslave them. Corporations doing this are security risks for any nation they are operating in because they can sabotage a government of the people that is intent on stopping or curtailing such sharp practices. Many corporations in Nigeria with huge market share are involved in these sharp practices.

Stock market crash.
Nobody should be afraid of any stock market crash. We should rather be happy that public corporations will rest at their true value if the public trading of company stock is abolished. It is better to know what your investment is worth exactly and expect returns accordingly.
Whatever is the value of your investment, the fact that the managers will be constrained to make it yield a certain minimum percentage in returns per annum is far better and more important than any other fact. The minimum percentage an investment should yield for the investor should not be lower than the lowest bank interest rate in the country and the higher the yield the better the ratings and commendation for the Chief executive officer managing the investment.
It is like the Ifa cast for them in Ogbomosho when they were apprehensive about impending war. Odi Ogbe aka Idingbe. The priest explained to them that feathers make a hen fluffy and without feathers the true weight of a hen would be known or realized. So it is with the market capitalization of publicly listed companies and the true value of the tangible assets of such companies.
The true value of the tangible assets of a corporation is the important detail that should be of concern to an investor and if this value is yielding co measurate returns, the investor will be happy.
Value of tangible assets is better than market capitalization which is driven by hype. Both market capitalization and value of tangible assets bring the same returns without an iota of doubt but sudden variations in market capitalization can lead to a heart attack and to the premature death of an investor while true value assures stability. Anything that can grow one hundred percent in a few hours while not being a mushroom is a danger for any economy and should as a rule be avoided. This is the second reason the public trading of shares should be abolished. It is hazardous.


Commercial banking
The vast majority of commercial banking in a country like Nigeria is done by cooperative societies. I am not sure of all parts of Nigeria but I am certain that is the case in Yoruba land. The cooperative societies lend money against savings at subprime rates. If bank rates is twenty five percent, a typical cooperative society might charge eighteen percent flat. The vast majority of the informal sector borrow from cooperative societies and even members with assets can be able to borrow against the assets at the same subprime rate if he or she is part of the high ranking leaders of the cooperative society. Even corporations in the organized private sector all have staff cooperative societies and they are the first point of call for credit for their members.

How do licensed banks make money in Nigeria?.

Their main source of income is obviously from forex racketeering because of the lacuna created by the dual exchange rate regime which the World bank has severally urged the Nigerian government to end. They have always being urging the Nigerian government to not be shady and let the national currency always rest at its true value since they are the institution devaluing it by themselves by excessive new money printing. If you withdraw ten billion naira from circulation today, the value of the naira will rise sharply and the opposite will also create the opposite effect. Cash available in circulation will be only some thousands of Naira per head. Not more than that.

The forex racketeering going on in a country like Nigeria is worse than the equivalent of bank heists of millions of naira occurring every day in every branch of every bank in the country.

Ofun Osa- The comfort zone

1.The comfort zone is where dreams go to die.

2.A person never once beaten by rain nor the sun will definitely be beaten by poverty.

This was the Ifa divination cast for Akin Lawanson when he was in the midst of enemies while struggling to get through to his dream wife Barbara Bush.
He was surrounded and was being tormented by bullies, witches, jesters, envious and evil people who were determined to see his downfall.

He was advised to offer sacrifice to survive.
He listened to the ritual items and complied.

Not at all a long time after that, you will meet us in a state of triumphant victory like Ogun which is the state of all Awos seated at the feet of Obarisa.
ASE.


Ofun Osa- Itan Akin Lawanson

1.Ti okan ba bale ju aseyori yio soro


2.Eni ti oorun o pa TI ojo ko pa, ise ni yio pa
A difa fun Akin Lawanson
Ni igba ti nbe ni aarin awon aje, Eni ibi, Ika, ojowu abbl ni igba to nsare a TI kan Barbara Bush gege bi Aya ti awon ota nwa isubu re.

Won ni ko rubo
O gbebo o rubo
Ko pe rara ona ko jin
E wa ba WA la jase Ogun
Ajase Ogun laa ba Awo lese Obarisa.
ASE.

It is an Ofun Osa story when the end result will be blessings but the present situation is affliction.
The first line is a quote I read that Mark Zuckerberg made, possibly in reference to my anger at how he treated me like trash by trampling on me while I was floored by a mammoth organisation like the RCCG for writing on how the world would become a better place. I have sent a letter to Amnesty International to help pursue a claim of ten billion dollars cash against him or two hundred percent of that in Facebook stock which I will hand over to the CIA since he knew he was trampling on the CIA the finger that feeds him and the authourity that made him.
But what can we do?, where will we be without opposition?. Life would be a mess!. Without friction which is opposition to movement, there can be no fruitful motion. Affliction, opposition, resistance, antagonism, are vital for progress so far it does not bring along with it evil or bad.
Every good thing is always opposed before it is supported. An academic thesis must be scrutinized and defended before it can be adjudged okay for publication and etc. Good as the industrial revolution is, it attracted academic non violent opposition. I read a book where an Irish farmer of the nineteenth century complained bitterly about the way machines are taking over the jobs of human beings wondering aloud what will happen to nineteen men if one small machine is doing the work of twenty men?. He noted that it is surely something to worry about as people will be denied their traditional sources of income. The observation is academically valid and is yet to be addressed up till today. Unemployment therefore was the Ofun Osa cast for the non communist nation that embraced the industrial revolution.
A communist nation would of course find respectable jobs for all humans and enough income on which tax is paid. That would be Ofun meji cast for the communist nation that embraced the same industrial revolution etc etc.

Witches, bullies and all evil doers are creatures of Olodumare and are necessary evils that must be vanquished with none spared as an example to others that the only form of opposition, antagonism and resistance that is acceptable by the society is the academic one. It still would be Ofun Osa, but the Godly type.

OSE OLUBADAN

When Ibadan was to be founded the people wanted a city that will be great, prosperous, most successful among its peers and one that will play a significant role, they wanted to know the destiny, the ceremony is the equivalent for a city of the esentaiye done a few days after birth for a newborn. As an example, Ijesa is said to be birthed by Iwori warawara, Ere Ijesa by Iwori Ayoka and etc. So were all Yoruba settlements birthed. The founders of Ibadan therefore summoned the Awo and assembled themselves then after elaborate prayers and other preliminaries, they cast the Ifa and Ose meji appeared. They erupted in joy and celebration. After offering the sacrifice, they started singing and dancing and the Awos chanted

Idandan ni Atupa ile
A difa fun won lode ilu nla
Ni ibi won ngbe bi Olu omo
Ebo ni won ni ki won o se
Won gbebo won rubo
Ero Po Ero Ofa!
E wa gbomo Olu gesin gongo!

Idandan is the lamp of the Earth
This was the Ifa message for Ilu nla the great city (City of Ibadan).
The city where illustrious sons are birthed.
They were asked to sacrifice
They listened to the ritual items and complied.
Onlooking people of Po and Ofa!
Up Up Up the Prince on the Royal stallion!.

When Ogbe meji is cast for you, the universe is in support of what you want if you offer the sacrifice
but who knows what you want?
You might want mediocrity!. If ose meji is cast for you, then you are constrained to be dominant regarding your query. Ose meji is very significant. I might say and be right that Aare Ona Kakanfo Kurunmi did not succeed only because he was headquartered in Ijaiye and was at logger heads with Ibadan the city of Ose meji. The Action Group succeeded because they were headquartered in Ibadan the city of Ose meji. Ibadan is currently the best city in Nigeria where everything is complete, well known to the world and as cheap to live in as any other smaller city and bigger by spread than any other. No other current city was birthed by Ose meji. Only ancient cities that are now lost. I believe Ibadan would have won the Yoruba civil war of the nineteenth century, if not that the people were tired of war and the Aare ona Kakanfo Latosisa had already died of old age at the warfront in Igbajo but outside that the odds were in favour of Ibadan and that should be expected because the city was birthed by Ose meji.

Iwori Ijesa- Iwori Irosun, Iwori warawara

Esikanrin moba Iwo
Oro mogbe Ijesa
Okan soso isoro
Ni kii je ki aye oloro o baje
Oun loro bi
O so loro
Gbogbo e gbogbo e
Loro loro
A difa fun Aluko do do do
Tii se omo olododo ikefun
Won ni ko sebo si laiku Ara
O gbebo O rubo
Nje bi nba seyi o
Ng o tun semi si
Omo isoro I ku soro
ASE Ase Edumare.

Esikanrin I have landed. Iwo
Wealth is my portion. Ijesa.
Just a major adversity
Is what prevents the life of a wealthy man from being ruined or being average.
Wealth birthed him (the Ijesa)
And named him Wealth
Everything about him is wealth, wealth, wealth

This was the Ifa message for Aluko do do do, the son of the Righteous man of Ikefun.
He was advised to sacrifice.
He listened to the ritual items and complied
After completing this task
I will kick off more
The son of the rite master will not be swept away by the rituals.

Iwori Irosun. This is one of the odus of the Ijesa. If anything is better than or is as good as the Iwori meji, that would be the Iwori irosun. Increase in Iwori. Iwori meji is the natural PhD. What then is the Iwori Irosun?. It signifies an intense increase in Iwori and if there is anything a human being needs more than other things. That would be the power of imagination. Iwori meji. Iwori Irosun is an acute increase in this power. The Ijesa nation has the ODU as one of its founding odu.
The Ijesa are noted for academics. No other group in Africa have more PhD per Capita than the Ijesa. That is Iwori meji in Action.
No other group in Nigeria have people as in individuals with more patented technology. It is Iwori Ijesa.
No other group have more successful business men per Capita. You need Iwori Ijesa to achieve that.
The first Nigerian founded business to be properly listed on the stock exchange was founded by Dr Lawrence Omole of Ilesa. He made his money in Ilesa and became world famous without venturing out of Ilesa. I think he is the only Nigerian to ever be awarded a honorary Doctor of letters by Oxford University. It is Iwori Ijesa.
When we were undergraduates during one of our ITs for the faculty, a lecturer told us of a special Engineering discipline of which only 22 Nigerians are qualified with 18 of them being Ijesas or a ratio like that Iwori Ijesa. Iwori warawara.
At a point all of the universities of UI, OAU and Unilag the major ones in the West were all headed by Ijesas at the same time Iwori warawara.
Above all the 370 billion dollars being planned for me by the CIA and all the people assembled to save me is the cap of it all. Iwori warawara. Excessive academics can only lead to prosperity. Iwori Irosun. Iwori Ijesa. Iwori warawara.

Olu317:
Your personal opinion. patrilineal descendants can not reject maternal link to the throne because after some generation , they do marry aback. This does not mean, it doesn't exist.It does as a matter of fact.

This is the reason, it was easy to use praise name to identify people in Yorùbá land. If not because of certain challenges, Atiba of Ọyọ́ will never had been a king in Ọyọ́. And from Atiba till today,Ọyọ́ of Orànmiyàn descendants have changed ifá means of choosing crown king to Ọyọ́mésí pattern.

Ayway, certain changes may occur outside iléifẹ but tradition ought be obeyed to a large extent. And I exposure to Yorùbá ancient valuable tradition will not be lost outrightly.

Identical twins are not the same. Two brothers are not the same. Yoruba nations are not the same. They can do whatever they like on their own land. Without them, Ife will not be relevant. Ife is not the one to tell them what to do. They all have distinct characteristics peculiar to them. Ijesa by any means is not similar to Ife. They are separate states. There were female Owas in Ijesa and their children are still royalty. They are of course patrilineal but institutional descendants of Oduduwa. Even so called sons will have among them a good number of biological bastards. So institutional is the valid descent and patrilineal does not matter. Matrilineal line is forgotten by the Yoruba once it can no longer be traced but patrilineal is institutional. All members of same agbo Ile are from the same male ancestor even if you have no idea of the relationship but matrilineal is soon forgotten except you identify with your mother's compound and relocate there. In most cases, they will still know you are not from their paternal line but I don't think it matters.

Olu317:
Your personal opinion. patrilineal descendants can not reject maternal link to the throne because after some generation , they do marry aback. This does not mean, it doesn't exist.It does as a matter of fact.

This is the reason, it was easy to use praise name to identify people in Yorùbá land. If not because of certain challenges, Atiba of Ọyọ́ will never had been a king in Ọyọ́. And from Atiba till today,Ọyọ́ of Orànmiyàn descendants have changed ifá means of choosing crown king to Ọyọ́mésí pattern.

Ayway, certain changes may occur outside iléifẹ but tradition ought be obeyed to a large extent. And I exposure to Yorùbá ancient valuable tradition will not be lost outrightly.

Identical twins are not the same. Two brothers are not the same. Yoruba nations are not the same. They can do whatever they like on their own land. Without them, Ife will not be relevant. Ife is not the one to tell them what to do. They all have distinct characteristics peculiar to them. Ijesa by any means is not similar to Ife. They are separate states. There were female Owas in Ijesa and their children are still royalty. They are of course patrilineal but institutional descendants of Oduduwa. Even so called sons will have among them a good number of biological bastards. So institutional is the valid descent and patrilineal does not matter.

Olu317:
My brother, veil covering started with Ooni and not Ọlọ́yọ́. The name Aláafin started as a title in 1837.

Yes, Olú-Ọyọ́ was a powerful kingdom which later turned to Empire much later in 16th century without a veil. The crown with the bead roundabout it made it much of veil with covering of the mouth aswell.

While, that is out of it, Oduduwa reigned after the unification of the three ancestors families were submerged under him. Before his time, it was a rotational government among the lords of the distinctive pioneer families of the thirteen settlements .

So,a lot information have been wrongly passed by people who are associated with Ileifẹ but without venturing into the original fact in Iléifẹ. There is no doubt that all people in Iléifẹ are not patrilineal descendants of his but a lot are maternally linked to Him.

The same can be said about Oranfẹ descendants and otherLords which actually support the hybrids nature of Yorùbá Race.


Without mincing fact, it is important as researchers that we need do more to attain the truthful nature on Yorùbá unique Racial complexion.

Somebody accepted as a father figure does not need to be the patrilineal ancestor of everybody but he is most probably related to everybody since he lived a long time ago. Whether patrilineal or matrilineal we are all descendants of the founder of the present dynasty. No child really is above the other, male or female and many princes are institutional and not patrilineal. Someone whose ancestor was a female king that birthed his grandfather who also was a King is a valid prince despite that he is far removed from the patrilineal line. Institutional is more important. Forget line of descent. That is not important.

Just yesterday, I wrote in my book that it is not likely that Oranmiyan was the one being referred to as Ajoji Godogbo in the odi meji story of the Ifa corpus because they should have mentioned him by name and also because if he were the one more Kings should have reigned in Benin than have reigned since 51 kings have reigned in Ife and 47 in Ijesa and a similar number in Oyo, how come Benin is much lower?. I find the answer a few minutes ago on the site below saying Sasore was made King in Benin which means he probably was the one in the Odi meji story which must have happened centuries after the time of Oranmiyan. It does not negate the Oranmiyan account of course but it points to the fact that Sasore was the Ajoji Godogbo's name. He was not Oranmiyan and in actual fact, history says Oranmiyan left Benin in anger an event which led to the city being renamed Ife Ubinu. The Ife of vexation. The claim is that he left his son back there named Owomika, (I can't handle it) which was changed to Eweka later but if Eweka is actually the first Oba of Benin and Oranmiyan was a direct son of Oduduwa then Eweka can not be the direct son of Oranmiyan which brings the possibility that the so called Eweka is actually Sasore that lived centuries after the time of Oranmiyan. The topic needs more research.

Odi meji- Itan Ajoji Godogbo

Mo de ire mo rin ire
Irin asiko ni mo morin
Asese ko oun Oro Nike
Ni mo wole were bi omo Olohun
Emi kii se omo olohun
Irin asiko ni mo morin
A difa fun Ajoji godogbo
Ti yio wole were ni ojo ti won pin Ogun Oba Bini
Ajoji Godogbo Fe se awo re ode Bini
O ba mu eji Kun eta o gba oko Awo lo.
Won ni Ajo yio Dara fun sugbon ko rubo.
Igba to rubo tan o wa kori SI Ode Bini.
Igba to de Bini o se akoko iku Oba won.
Ajoji Godogbo ba ni nje ko ye ki oun Agba Awo o lo ki won ba Yi.
Igba ti o de be o ba won nse ohun Oro oba won lowo.
Apa kan ohun Oro naa.
Ajoji ni won ko fun
Bi ajoji se ro ohun Oro na tan Ile lo kori si.
O wa sopa saran o mu tinure jade
O wa nyin awon Awo re, awon Awo re nyin Ifa, Ifa nyin Olodumare.
O yanu koto Orin Awo lo bo si lenu.
Ese ti yio naa Ijo fa.
O ni mo de ire mo rin ire irin asiko ni mo mo Rin. Asese ko ohun Oro Nile mo wole were bi omo olohun.
Emi kii se omo olohun
Irin asiko ni mo no rin
A difa fun ajoji Godogbo
Ti yio wole were ni ojo ti won npin ogun Oba bini.

Ta lo ma ba WA tun ile Yi SE?.
Ajoji Godogbo
Oun lo ma ba wa tun Le Yi SE
Ajoji Godogbo
ASE!.

Odi meji- The story of the handsome stranger. How the Benin dynasty was founded.

My arrival is with fortune
My gait is with fortune
I arrived exactly on time
As they were packing the ritual items.
I entered briskly like the owner's son
I am not the son of the owner.
I was only fortunate to arrive on time.

This was the Ifa cast for Ajoji Godogbo (The handsome stranger).
Who would enter briskly
On the day the Benin King would be chosen.
Ajoji Godogbo wanted to go to Benin to meet with Awos.
He therefore added two to three cowry shells and approached his Awo.
They said the trip would be good for him but he should sacrifice.
When he concluded the sacrifice, he set forth towards Benin
His arrival in Benin coincided with the death of their king.
He said to himself 'Am I not as a senior Awo supposed to go and greet them?'.
When he reached the palace, he met them preparing the ritual items for the King.
A part of the ritual items were handed over to Ajoji Godogbo
After accepting the ritual items
He headed back home.
He danced joyfully.
He praised his Awos, his Awos praised Ifa and Ifa praised Olodumare.
He opened his mouth and it was filled with Ifa songs
He stretched his legs and danced!
He said 'My arrival is with fortune. My gait is with fortune.
I arrived exactly on time.
As they were packing the ritual items. I entered briskly like the owner's son.
I am not the son of the owner.
I was only fortunate to arrive on time.

This was the Ifa cast for Ajoji Godogbo.
Who would enter briskly on the day the Benin King would be chosen.

Who will build this nation for us?.
Ajoji Godogbo the handsome stranger.
He will build this nation for us.
Ajoji Godogbo.
ASE Edumare.


ODI means the blockade or where the buck stops. A reference point. The head. An important position with an important duty and etc. It appeared for an Awo leaving Ife to go to Benin to meet with other Awos, before departing he enquired how the trip will be only for Odi meji to appear. He offered the prescribed sacrifice and departed for Benin where he ended up being made the King. Ostensibly because of his princely appearance. This person may be Oranmiyan but one would wonder why he was not mentioned by name. There is therefore a good chance he was not Oranmiyan but Oranmiyan is credited by both the Ife and Benin palaces as the founder of the Benin dynasty. There is also not enough royal successions to the Benin throne to account for Oranmiyan who is said to be a direct son of Oduduwa. A direct son of Oduduwa being the first Oba of Benin should place the total number of Obas since then at well over 40 but that is not the case. It may therefore be that Oranmiyan was not a direct son of Oduduwa or he is altogether not the Ajoji Godogbo of this story.
However no Ifa story is a lie. The worst it can be is to be a philosophy but a story like this actually happened and it is obviously not a philosophy.



https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361546509_analysis_of_Ese-Leg_and_Its_Significance_in_Determining_Human_Personhood_in_the_Yoruba_Thought_System_with_Reference_to_Irete_Meji_Eji_Elemere

Olu317:
No, such calculations is flawful as some researchers have done in the past. What do you think, Obálùfọn Ogbógbódirín means ? How many years did Obálùfọn Ogbógbódirín lived on earth since your calculations is based on 51 personalities on the throne ?

Whatever it means, he did not reign for up to 100 years. In Oyo they claim one Alaafin ruled for centuries but I will say the reign would have been that of many people without the people knowing due to the fact that the Alaafin was always behind a veil of beads and could be replaced without the knowledge of the generality of the people. No indication that any human being can live up to 200 years at least not in the past few thousand years. Ife also claim to have had 90 kings before Oduduwa arrived. If you say the earlier ones of that set lived longer, I might be inclined to agree it can be possible.

Olu317:
Which New Oduua ?
The only man identified as odua is a descendant of Oogún and not father to son but a later male descendant. He was young,and the one that was the pioneer unifying king. No female Ooni identified as oduduwa though he had daughters. One of Odua's daughter gave birth to Ajibosin, of Ora nfẹ descendants etc. interbreeding has always being the order of the day. So, if you need fact concur to my advise that you should visit iléifẹ to clear your doubt

Not only the regurgitation of facts is important in history. Mathematics is also important. The Oduduwa that established the current dynasty lived 51 kings ago max and there were some kings that died the same day they were inaugurated. Give them thirty years each and you have 1550 years ago out of 10068 years that Ife Ooyelagbo was established. Therefore the current dynasty did not originate from the beginning. Even Kemitic Egypt was established thousands of years after the establishment of Ife Ooyelagbo. Therefore your calculation is wrong.

Olu317:
To be candid, I am reactionary because information you find on google are not always factual. This doesn't mean, good information aren't on google, so do not misunderstood me.

Albeit if you have to go along the pantheon,then I can assure you there lot of hidden information just because of secrecy of Yorùbá understanding of society which has done us badly.

So, the oduduwa you think, is feminine was a creativity of samuel Ajayi crowther who tilted the information given to him more from ọyọ́'s court falsified history and the wrong Ado Odò version.

Interestingly at iléifẹ, every family know their strength and limit. While Oduduwa fought against Obatala( the human ones though fought against each other).He was accepted and crowned.Ajibosin was Paternally of Obátalá and was Oduduwa's daughter's son. Where is the false Oduduwa female at Iléifẹ ? Ask Owu people who AJibosin was!

Infact Obámeri was killed for this war because he supported Oduduwa, which Oduduwa eventually won as a male warrior. This was what culminated to the establishment of the unification dynasty under the pioneer Ogún descendants identified as Odù tíó dá ìwà, the young able character man who descended from Orà hill.

From the oral and factual point with regalias as symbols which each family house at iléifẹ distinctively separates each household from the other that existed till tomorrow . If so, how can you talk about the feminism of a male king?

The Atiba Ọyọ́ linked family which Samuel Ajayi crowther hinged his all and all information on is even a mother side to the throne. This is the basis for your arguement,which is flawful.

Infact, this doesn't mean, there are no core father side to the throne till forever of Ọrànmiyàn descendants. But they are just being sidelined due to dismantled system brought about by Western world.

And why should we be surprised when minute Ọlọ́yọ́ descendants of female lineage call his ancestor son as a slave in Iléifẹ? I am no surprised.

If you want fact, go visit people at iléifẹ and stop overemphasising pseudo Wikipedia's information on the history of Yorùbá cum Odùà dynasty.

If you ask the google or majority of people who the founder of Iléifẹ is ? Most often it is Obátala but the founder of Iléifẹ was Orúnmilà while the oldest deified personality in Yorùbá land is Orà in Iléifẹ.

For further information on it consult each family house at iléifẹ to know that most post or facebook or google do not represent the reality of Yorùbá Race.

Cheers

Until I have evidence to the contrary I believe the new Oduduwa became Olofin without any incident of struggle though naturally many will not fully support him. This is because there was a prophecy and they were already waiting for him. Not different much from what happened in Benin. Once I get evidence to the contrary I will discard the conclusion. I will further posit that the ceremonies of plays showing Obatala and Odudua followers duelling predates the new Oduduwa and was in place 10068 years ago. The odun Olojo was in place that far back with the same depiction of struggle between Oduduwa and Obatala but I am hopeful to be out debated with logic and facts. Then nobody said Ooni is a slave but the mother of the first Ooni was a bond woman. Mother of Aare Afonja was a bond woman as well and he contested for the Alaafin. What they say is that the Ooni is junior to them in rank but senior by traditional duty of record keeping. They are all valid princes of Oduduwa institutionally

Olu317:
Lol. Odudua never worshipped under Awori. He was a king that fused three foundational kingdoms that later turned thirteen pre and during Oduduà era.

So, update with facts and not assumption! Can you inform when Awori was founded and by who ? Will you ever reference Awori without Òógúnfúnmínírè ? The same foundational prince Òógúnfúnmínírè who was ancestrally Oduduwa male descendant. Get yourfact right

The Adé Aare itself was worn by the man identified as Òogún "Oduduà" and belong to his dynasty . His descendants both male and female are the ones that married into former dynasty andotherrelatedYoruba groups and beyond to form the Necleus families Yorùbá have. So equip yourself with fact and not fiction.

Even when the man died, the Adé Aare still remain within the purview of the family that owns it despite other families had worn it.

You are always more reactionary than academic in your analysis. I have noticed that.

What you need to understand is that Oduduwa is a primordial deity in the Yoruba pantheon as basic as Ogun or Oya, Osun and etc and it's attribute is perfection in character. Ogun is innovation, Osun is increase, Oya is sudden change like ruling the stock exchange as someone said, Obatala is government, Orunmila is wisdom etc etc. Then Olodumare himself is Oduduwa if perchance you can defend all your actions then like Olodimare you are Oduduwa. Obatala is Oduduwa, Orunmila is Oduduwa etc. You can be so named at birth or given to you as an alias. Obatala, Oduduwa were both portrayed as women in the corpus. Ogun is always male and Oya is referred to as the female version or the closest to Ogun that a female can be. Obatala and Oduduwa can be approached either as male or female but the basic Odu the first Odu is female. Odu is always female and never male. It was ODU that was given the Eye to become Iyami Osoranga and she was the only female that initially accompanied the irunmales to Earth according to Osa meji where she got the Eye from Olodumare.
So till now some people still approach Oduduwa as a female and go to the extent of having unrestricted sex in her temple during special festivals according to an account I read that I can not find online anymore.

Then succession in Yoruba land is institutional. It is always rotational among ruling families who are founded by the sons of the founder of the dynasty. The ones in Ile Ife presently were founded by the first Ooni who was born of a bond woman owned by Oduduwa. The ruling families in Ile Ife are descended from that son who was a baby when his older brothers were already grandfathers. His title was changed to Ooni from Olofin to reflect that he is not their father but he was left to take care of rituals, songs, history etc. I hope you understand now?. Among the ruling families in any Yoruba city, a princess can become the monarch not impossible, also possible for a son of a princess to become the monarch but he belongs to the house of his mother or do you think he will be allowed on the throne if he is claiming to be from another lineage?. If you are claiming the title belonging to your mother's family then you will identify with that family while remembering the history of your father but your reign belongs to your mother's family and you will be greeted as such. All monarchies are related to the new Oduduwa but not all are directly patrilineal descendants of the man. The Awujale, Olowu are descended from Oduduwa but not patrilineally, their monarchies stretched back centuries before Oduduwa. In Ile Ife there are royal families derived from princess but they are institutionally Oduduwa princes. Same in Ijesa but in Benin all are patrilineal. Ijesa and Ife have had female kings that had sons. I myself have evidence of descent from Oduduwa but not patrilineal. All Yoruba are connected to the Oduduwa one way or the other.

There are still Orunmila descended dynasties in Yoruba land Ajero, Alara, Olowo and many others are by their titles descendants of Orunmila. In Ijesa are many beaded crowns that preceded the formation of Ijesa, they are all most probably descendants of Orunmila or even earlier than Orunmila. Owalare Elerinmo and some others. In Ile Ife itself many chiefs like Obalufe, Obaloran, Obadio etc must be descendants of Orunmila or earlier because Orunmila is maybe 5000 years ago. Nobody is saying Oduduwa is not the father. Anybody can be the father and everybody recognize the current Ife but history for the sake of posterity should be presented properly. There 8s however nothing wrong with differing accounts. Let everybody keep their accounts but in the past the Oyo empire was to Ile Ife what the USA now is to Ireland or the UK even moreso because Ife was totally under protection. According to Ijesa account Ife was once under the protection of Ijesa.
https://journeyingtothegoddess./2012/12/27/goddess-odudua/

Olu317:
Who told Oduduwa was a female personality? Show such in Ifá stanzas that A crown wearing Adé Arẹ is a female entity or Save me this information of yours.

Irè o o

Oduduwa worshipped among the Awori is female. Obatala is rendered as female and mother of Esu and etc. ODU itself connotes feminity. The Ofun meji story of Oduduwa mentioned that it was Odu that made the sacrifice and after the sacrifice was renamed Oduduwa. Is there any doubt that Odu is female?. The Odu in the Osa meji that was given the power of the Iya mi eleye was female. Wasn't she?. And it was Odu that was renamed Oduduwa

Olu317:
Monarchy system in Yoruba land do not have different origin per see. The model use in Yoruba kingdoms are fashioned after the ancestral lineage at iléifẹ. So, I strongly hold unto this belief system. Obáship system with little modification.

Egypt as it was had different groups lived inside her at the time in the past but the Oduduwà name factoring didn't exist except other names being answered by clans among Yorùbas.

Besides, Oduduwà has two different personalities;the oduduwà(Ìwà),the one who cannot die,ruler of the world that descended from Ọrún and the other one who died and was the pioneer unifying king of the land occupied by thirteen communities in the ancient Iléifẹ. He was of the descendants of Ògún the Aarẹ Crown owner.......

Everybody in Yoruba land is related and if you see the corpse of a Yoruba person anywhere in the world, it can be determined to be a Yoruba person. However anybody can become Oba and a large number of beaded crowns in Yoruba land are not patrilineally descended from the new dynasty that was established 51 kings ago in Ile Ife. The person that established the dynasty was given an Ifa name. Oduduwa is an Ifa name while Lamurudu is not. No Yoruba person was ever named Lamurudu which is Nimrod a Sumerian.
No one needs to be told that Oduduwa was originally female. ODU demotes feminity and the Ofun meji story where Ogbaragada was divined for Oduduwa where he was mentioned as the creator of all IWA whose conduct will never be questioned is still feminine since the source of creation concept has to be feminine but there have been male Oduduwas. Awujale, Olowu, Oluwo, and many others are not descended patrilineally from Oduduwa and even many kings are only institutionally descended from him being from a line of a Princess. However the man is the founder of the current dynasty what Williams the conqueror is to England

Maynnmann:
False, show me where you pulling this from? Hope it’s not from your ass?

It is in the Ifa corpus. In Ofun meji
We start where we end
Was the Ifa divination for the new born who knew nothing at the beginning of his life. He was advised to be honest and do the right thing always and he would be supported by Olodumare
He listened to the ritual items and complied.

At the end of his life the newborn who knew nothing had become the old man who knew much and he lived his life supported by his Ori and by Olodumarw and upon his death he returned to Orun to become one of the innumerable irunmales that would again be reincarnated as the newborn who knows nothing.

Thus is how we continue the cycle of reincarnation until we reach the state of Apeere the state of perfection

ASE

Anywhere you live on Earth with running water, constant power, security, source of income is not better than any other place. Here in Ilesa are a number of Europeans who are happy and fulfilled. If They Get their acts together in a place like London and reduce the bloated cost of living to something realistic then hundreds of thousands of Britons will take up civil service jobs in Nigeria since wages in the UK will be similar to a place like Ilesa

Good topic. It is however obvious that anywhere you find yourself you are obliged to leave the place at least a bit better than you met it. Isn't it?. You were therefore born to make the world a better place

Maynnmann:
False.
Olodumare is aloof and doesn’t concern himself with earth and humans, it wasn’t his idea to create humans or earth, it was obatala and orunmila idea. He passed the duty on earth to Orishas.
Destiny means something has been predestined before you were born. How then can i have created it?
God is a title not a person, the Israelite god is called Yahweh while yoruba god is called Olodumare.

Where you getting your info from?

You yourself before being incarnated you were an irunmale like Olodumare but your status would be lower. However the main difference between you and Olodumare is that you are being incarnated while Olodumare will never be. Olodumare in council know the end from the beginning while you are free to make your own plans in-between which changes nothing from Olodumare's overall plan. Can the conduct of one errant or hardworking staff change the overall result that the management of a corporation will get?