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fellis: Eyah. Poor logic boy that lost his sweethart.
Kpele o.
Find an atheist like yourself next time so that you will not lose her to religious sanctions.

lol.....this all happened last year. It's over. The problem is that muslims like you will continue such bigotry and many young muslim young girls will either lose their lives, their family or break their hearts.

fellis: Oh, so that's what you meant.
I thought you were saying that thinking the man is the head of the house has gotten many muslim women honor killed.

As for young girls getting killed for having non-muslim partners, that is very unfortunate.
As far as I know, it has no place in Islam, just the handwork of overzealous extremists.

It is always "extremists" until you lose someone close to you.

OLAADEGBU: I hope your heart hasn't fossilised yet?

Do you understand the irony of the picture? Dinosaurs debunk genesis!


www.nairaland.com/attachments/718264_20050516_gifae6c72593116c5cc890c75a5fafdf4bd

ea7: Stupid question with a link riddled with fallacies and idiocy in general.
@logicboy, I am a bit curious, do you dislike modern Europeans?

That would make me racist.

I like everyone; Arab, Jews, White, Asian, European etc.


What I hate more than racism is my fellow black people (especially Nigerians) acting like slaves to a religion that enslaved their forefathers

bukatyne: i did n i addressed it starting from the gentiles stuff. Jesus was not afraid of a rebellion but He didn't come to reign in an earthly kingdom but an heavenly one. He said repeatedly that His Kingdom was not of this world that was y He told those believers who were slaves to obey their masters n their masters should treat them fairly. He even paid His taxes n christians re told to pay import duty, obey their govt, avoid riots etc!

May your children be slaves and be told to obey their masters since you think that is a good thing!

fellis: ^^^You didn't want the opinions of others on the thread?
You should have mentioned that then so I would not have wasted my time typing.
And how has thinking like this gotten anyone honor killed?

Havent young girls been killed for having non-muslim partners?

So, without Jesus, blacks are cursed?

fellis: ^^^You didn't want the opinions of others on the thread?
You should have mentioned that then so I would not have wasted my time typing.

Okay, I am sorry. The last thing I needed for you was to give some justification on the bigotry I recieved.

Maybe I'm too emotional

Adeniyi A.:
to all those who condemn by proxy, dos wt satanic title of Pull him Down PhD, check ur life ao many lives av u +vely touched,ar u progressing. look! IF U WANT TO BE AN ACHIEVER,U MUST EMBRACE AN ACHIEVER.chikena! . TB Joshua is an achiever, tell me wat u av achieved. wat ppl dont understand they condemn,wat they understand they destroy...

TB Joshua is an achiever! He has achieved a PhD in tithe fraud!

Mr_Anony: Thanks frosbel, I have argued exactly these same things myself I was actually in the process of making a proper statement to post on the issue of God. I must confess it may not be quite as referenced as yours but I'll try all the same.

Wait for them, The militant atheists led by one illogical "logicboy" who likes to call himself a "superior atheist" and will resort to insults when he can't make a point (oh I see he has already been here) , they are coming. instead of trying to tackle the issues set before them, they will start beating around the bush and making unrelated arguments.

It amuses me how someone can devote his life to debates over something that doesn't exist to him.

Kai, see my life! Wetin I do you?

Bros, no vex!

OLAADEGBU: Do you now recognise that you have disobeyed God's commands? If so would you now like to receive Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross as payment for your sins and then submit your life to Him and receive the free gift of eternal life?



I will do so as soon as I have the opportunity to contribute.

I was joking. Havent I told you that I am a hardcore atheist?

fellis: Is this the 'more emotional thread'? Lol. Here I am.



Are you telling the truth about that story? No offence, just wondering.

Yes, very true story

fellis: Men, back then at least, were the ones who fended for the family and provided food, shelter, clothing and all that for their wives and children. For this reason, the prohibition of women having intimate relations with slaves and bearing children as a result, makes sense, since the child that would come out of such a relationship would be the child of a slave. A slave that has no right, that is controlled by another human being and has no belonging to their name, seeing as how they themselves belong to other people. The slave is not fit to marry a free born woman and start a family with her because as the man, he is the head of the family and has to take decisions regarding them. Whatever decision he has to take regarding that woman or his children is ultimately subject to anything his owner says. Even the money he would need to spend on the family has to come from the owner, so the owner of the slave after everything, turns out to be the real head of the slave's family and the one providing for that family.
A man, sleeping with his female slaves and having children with her is different because he owns the slave, he is the head of the family he is starting with the slave and in providing for her and ids, doesn't have to answer to anyone.
Hope I expressed this point clearly enough for you to understand, if you don't understand, please ask me questions.

Secondly, men are allowed to marry non-muslims, women are not.
Again, the issue of the man being the head of the house plays a part here. If a Muslim woman marries a non-muslim man. He might decide one day to forcefully convert her to his own religion, and assuming the woman refuses to join him in that religion, he could employ oppressive means to compel her, like withdrawing whatever financial support he was providing or failing to carry out his roles,one way or another.
And women, many of them, though not all of them, are emotional and could suffer great unhappiness if the marriage takes such a turn.
So there you go.
Ask questions for clarifications.

What do you take me for? A young muslim guy coming to you for advice? I'm a grown man and your brainwashing will not work. Why are you supporting this bigotry? Thinking like this has gotten many young women honour killed!

A woman has the freedom to marry who she wants to marry

LagosShia: she needs to repent.and hopefully she would do that far away from you.

repent from what? drinking wine?

LagosShia, many muslims drink alcohol. You cant control a grown man's desires. If muhammad could have a non-muslim partner, I dont see why I shouldnt have a muslim partner

ijawkid: I didn't expect my explanation to make sense to you...........

Ur an atheist remember??

U and logic boy both hate God and d bible.......

So u can keep wallowing in ur slavery theory and mayb go to d grave with it............


I'm defending pauls statement and that is it....


Thru out history it is even Gods people who have always been d slaves .........


If any1 has to complain it shuld be servants of God not atheists............


[b]If d catholics and d other whites brought about slave trade that's there business [/b]not Jesus's

Notice the two bold contradictory statements

Elmos: The source is foreign affair ministry,for I know the foreign affair ministry might not readily released the statistics for your perusal, nevertheless you could do this yourself or by proxy. Do you know anyone who work at the Lagos Airport(MMA)? If you do ask them the number of visitors that come into Nigeria on weekly bases for the purpose of visiting SYNAGOGUE. You may undertake the findings yourself, go to the Airport and conduct your questioning and ask to see which day of the week do they come, and whatsoever you see and that you gather you help you in forming your opinion about the statistics I posted earlier.

No proof

Not surprised.

shymmex: Olodo!

Read your comments and connect the dots yourself..

You're a grown man..

lol...... .....keep lying to yourself

LagosShia: what happened with your girlfriend is not my business.i am only interested to know that she adheres to her religious beliefs and not even your satanic influence to make her stray from Islam could make her stay with you and abandon her religion and family.

whether i am a man or a woman has nothing to do with participating in this forum.i am a human being.if it was a muslim that asked whether someone is male or female,you'd accuse him of sexism.

If I wanted to convert her, I would have. She already did not even believe somethings in the Koran. She also drank alcohol once in a while (not because of me). Furthermore, I doubt that she would ever love a muslim man.


Please, tell me what is satanic about me? Please? Or is it your religious bigotry talking?


As for my question, you said something that reminded me of a muslim woman I knew and so, I am just asking if you're a man or woman. It's odd that you're hiding it. It's your choice not to answer.

fellis: Logicboy, you seem like a nice fella to have around. I like the fact that you take arguments lightly enough to joke while having them. What's your Myers Briggs personality type?

Visit my more emotional thread;

https://www.nairaland.com/952935/religious-bigotry

fellis: Logicboy, you seem like a nice fella to have around. I like the fact that you take arguments lightly enough to joke while having them. What's your Myers Briggs personality type?

cant rememeber, I did that test long time ago.

shymmex: Read your posts again, and connect the dots.. I don't do free lectures.

You got caught lying. 419

adetunrayo: u simply need to pray against it. it's d devil at work. fast and pray and see how Jesus would send them parking.Never mind those thinking it's physical.

Sharaap.


You people and your fake faith healing.

The guy has sleeping problems and should meet someone medical who can advise him on changing his sleep routines or habits.

Elmos: By the statistics from Nigeria embassies abroad, the number of visa applicant that desire to visit Nigeria purposely to visit SYNAGOGUE top 1000 per week, and of all the applicants 70% were successful, which translate to about 700 getting Nigeria visa to visit SYNAGOGUE, by simple computation, Nigerian Government generates about $10,000. 00 per week because of synagogue, and each of the successful applicants would at least spend another $100 while in Nigeria. We all Know no tourist attraction in Nigeria that attracts such number on weekly bases week-in week-out. Therefore it is right to say SYNAGOGUE generates income for Nigeria as a tourist attraction.

I would love to see proof of that. Where the link dey? TB Joshua's fans like to pull fake statistics

shymmex: And is Israel a Christian country?

This guy is not making sense.

Where did I say that Isreal is a christian country?

shymmex: How do people like you pass exams?

Did you read the opening post?

If you did, you would have seen this: [size=14pt]"Tb Joshua ministry recieve visitors all over the world as pigrims more than Isreal." [/size]

If Israel can make billions of dollars annually from pilgrims, why can't Nigeria do the same?

That statement is a lie. Unless your church can handle 3.45 million tourists every year, TB Joshua does not receive pilgrims more than Isreal.

Furthermore, Nigeria can not do the same because dont have low cost flight options, good roads or constant electricity. Nigeria is not a tourist destination.

Stop inflating TB Joshua's foriegn visitors because you see some white people in the videos or church

Canisma: I can imagine haters of T.B Joshua hitting their heads very very hard on a brick wall.
Infact, i can see one of them rushing towards a very hot active transformer for a sweet last hug.
Faster boy! Be fast make NEPA no take light. Hehehehehehehe
.
The more you hate this man, the more he grows.
Infact, with the amount of congregation that he commands, i believe that he has more money than the Oyedepos, but he spends them all in HELPING THE LESS PRIVILEGED, PAYING SCHOOL FEES FOR THOUSANDS OF INDIGENT CHILDREN ALL OVER THE WORLD, and the rest...
He is doing this when others are buying private jets and building universities for commercial reasons.
A look at the book of acts would confirm to you that he is a REAL MAN OF GOD.

Yes, christianity tells you to kill haters and not pray for them.

As for building of schools and private jets, majority of the people who contribute to the church enjoy nothing out of it.


When you talk about helping the less priviledged, while it is good, there is a problem with how it is done. These pastors make money from offerings and tithes and then, use most of it to live extravagant lives. They then use small portion to do charity so that they look good.

If these pastors are genuine, they would rather tell their congregation to engage in charity rather than the corrupt redistribution of wealth.

shymmex: You're an idi/ot!!!

How does Israel make money from pilgrims??

And how do countries make money from tourists?

Why are so many Nigerians ret/arded??

Is it poverty, or do they slam ya heads on the floor after birth?

Ode, when or how does Nigeria become a tourist destination because of Church? Are we a christian nation?

frosbel[b:
]




"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." (Lev. 20:13, ESV)


Moral - No Expiration because it is based on God's character. "You shall be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy," (Lev. 19:2)
1.Do not steal or lie (Exodus 20:15,16; Lev. 19:12; Deut. 5:19-20)
2.Do not oppress your neighbor (Lev. 19:13)
3.No idolatry (Exodus 20:4-6; Lev. 26:1-13; Deut. 5:8-10; 13:1-18 )
4.Do not commit murder (Deut. 5:17)
5.Don't sacrifice children to Molech (Lev. 20:1-5)
6.Don't commit adultery, incest, bestiality, homosexuality, etc. (Exodus 20:14; Lev. 20:9-21; Deut. 5:18 )
7.You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Lev. 19:18 )

The civil aspect of the law is no longer in effect because these laws were intended for a theocratic system; that is, a system where God's morals were enforced by the government. But the ancient governmental system is not in effect. Furthermore, the agent purity laws were in place to keep the Messianic line pure so that Jesus would be born, die on the cross, be resurrected, and provide redemption to God's people. Now that the Messiah has arrived and accomplished his sacrificial work, the harshness of the Old Testament law is not necessary.

So, we're not to execute homosexuals anymore than we are to execute adulterers. However, their sins should never be promoted in society.


By CARM.

Nonsense, you say that the moral law has not expired and that Homosexuals should not be killed, however, you put the same verse in Leveticus that says that homosexuals should be killed under the moral laws.

Gay marriage does not affect you. If you dont like it, then dont marry a gay person. Why vote against it?

shymmex: Nigeria needs to invest in this church - since it hosts more pilgrims than Israel...

This church is another opportunity to diversify the Nigerian economy.

419 + ignorance!


How does a christian channel/church diversify the economy? You need to go to a psychiatric hospital

LagosShia: obviously,your girlfriend is a muslim who cares about her beliefs and she cannot break her blood relationship with her family because the suitor is a hopeless nutjob atheist who is a bigot and blinded by hatred.may be if you'd show her all your posts on nairaland,that would have made your break-up easier.

i must congratulate your girlfriend for her courage.now it is time for her to repent and seek forgiveness for the actions she could have done when she was with you.

Wow, see how you make yourself look stupid by assuming things? Religion does this to you. I broke it off with my girlfriend and not the other way around. If she was a religious bigot, she would not have been with me in the first place.


BTW, you keep avoiding my question; are you a man or a woman?

Mustay: You seem to be interested with unnecessary arguments and perhaps, 'superiority of opinions'. Those who understand will (supposing they are matured enough) understand. Some people on the forum have hands that are faster in typing than the brain in processing and relaying information on this forum.

I also don't need to show myself as Mr. Goody Goody sweet or warreva on an internet forum. It's the same way I marvel at the correlation of the boredom of a section with paradise/hell. Wow!!! Dis Nairaland sef.


PS Because of what I see on this forum, I'd need to a dd a caveat that the first sentence was only for you so don't think I've started personalising issues.
Thank you.

Okay, sorry. Maybe, I'm too emotional.....men have that time of the month too

Enigma: First Atheist Church of True Science: http://www.factschurch.com/


Church of Atheism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-jMLaGPlBQ


And of course the US Supreme Court has confirmed that (evangelical) atheism is a religion.

https://www.nairaland.com/765094/heard-there-different-kinds-atheism/2#9227593

https://www.nairaland.com/546562/atheism-religion/9#9232422

Please, watch your video again to see what the atheists said about the stupid church of atheism

"The Establishment Clause is the first of several pronouncements in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, stating,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

lilkech: they took from us . . . GOOD

didnt we take from them also ? and do you also want us to calculate who took the most from the other ?

Yes, let us calculate. What is the cost of a human life? Compensation for bereavement (negligent death) is £10,000. 12 million slaves from Africa

£120 trillion.

lilkech: na wah o

this particular thread concerns God and you are the one blowing horns up and down that you do not know or believe (aka. You are ignorant of) the same bible which the SLAVE MASTERS gave your fore-fathers.

I was a catholic for 20 years. To claim that I am ignorant of the bible is a huge lie.

lilkech: if not for those same 'SLAVE MASTERS', what business would your fore-fathers have had with the rest of the world ?

Japan, china, import . . . etc, if not for the same slave masters would your generation have got any clue what the above words mean ?

Erm, who knows? Arabs were also slave trading in the north before European christians came with their slavery.

I dont remember Saudi Arabia colonised or China being a colony of Britain- they tried but failed in China. Why would Nigeria fail just because they werent colonized. Granted, there wouldnt have been "Nigeria" but maybe a small country called Niger-Delta with all the oil and Northerners suffering with no resources.

lilkech: WHO SEND YOU MESSAGE ? why the comparism ?

Err, to highlight the problem in Nigeria not present in UK?