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JeSoul: ^dude you're not a rookie anymore. If you don't get a notice from the mods, then its the spambot.

JeSoul: Does someone not know the way to the islam section anymore?

Logic Mind: if you love her and she can endure it, then go public. Let it be known by everbody in your community. Inform newspapers and police that you are afraid for your wife's safety because of religious bigots. Do T.V shows and tell everybody what her family says.

Belive me, it is very difficult to harm someone who is in the public eye no matter how deep the hatred goes.
That is why salman rushdie is alive today. it has become in the muslim interest that nothing happens to him.

frosbel: Appears this post was too intellectual for some people to even try and as Muslims say refute  the technicalities of truth contained therein.

bukatyne: the old testament operated under the old law/covenant and we have things like stoning of people, slavery etc but all that was abolished in the NT. HOWEVER, some gentiles had slaves, it was part of their customs so there must be laws to regulate slavery. it would cause serious confusion and social disorder if al masters were told to release their slaves or if al slaves were told to rebel because al the slave owners might not be christians. it is just like saying that because the law talks of punishin rape then it encouraged rape. as for d popes, u should know that Jesus is our ultimate mirror of christian living. popes can make mistakes b'cos they re human. if my pastor steals, does it mean that God support stealing? take care

Mustay: Derailing is something you know but I wouldn't be 'disturbing' a thread where I'm not a 'member'/'believer'/follower of. If am not a Carpenter, why should I be writing 'claims' and unnecessary posts on a thread carpenters are rubbing minds. Don't try to be an expert where you're not. Converse intelligently and try to see reason why certain people behave on certain ways (understand others' perspectives). It's very annoying when some people are trying to learn and because you just have this 'precious' hate, you keep diverting their attention and insult them. Respect is key.

And btw, Seun is Seun Osewa.

Logic Mind: Sometimes troubles are best avoided if your other half remains in stuppidity.
I also got abuses when I wanted to marry another race. My family said no, her family said no. We just told them that we weren't seeking their approbation but that we were only informing them.
You see, it depends on your girl. If she is strong, then all things are possible. If she would allow bearded old men to tell her how to live her life and who to fvck, that's her choice.

musKeeto: Seconded...

vedaxcool: Does this make sense to u " I will kill because u believe in God"

vedaxcool: and always understand your problem, go read about state atheism, in communist Russia there was an incident of an atheist killing a muslim woman, and this was simply due to the fact that the woman believed in God, this point was reiterated by the state prosecuetor who said hadn't been for religion the woman would have been alive. And brain check communism is an atheistic philosophy rooted in denying God existence and asserting only the material exist, when I am chanced I will lucnh a thread that speaks of evil atheism. And atheist doinhg evil is usually without restraint, u would noticed millions died in the hands of Stalin etc . The jokes always on u, u can't do evil because you are an atheist? Realy are u for real, look at your atheist leaders like Nieztche who claimed no such thing like morality and gave himself free license to jump from bed to bed living in debauchery, which will later lead to syphilis and madness, or imagine the fact that an atheist feels because there is no morality he has no one to answer to he tells lies, cheat and does all things because of this, won't we be right to say the man did this because he didn't believe in God? Anyway read on state atheism then u might want to see why atheism could do evil! Cheers

ijawkid: So christians were d masters and never d slaves

Ur saying ""it is very possible that d early christians had slaves"" shows that u urself isn't sure of ur claim........

Read this scriptures and tell me if they sound contradictory to pauls words u've been quoting since time immemorial just to prove ur slavery issue....

1 corinthians 7:21-23.....

Paul was saying that christians should stop being slaves of men.....

How do u compare that scripture to ur "" literal slaves obey ur master"" theory?


Slavery encompassed a lot of things.....

I gave u an employer/employee relationship but u would run away from it.....

Those bible admonisions from paul is what christians hold on to to be honest @ there work places.......
Obeying there bosses and employers...

Even when things aren't going on right christians are encouraged to endure,not to fight back or steal from there masters(employers)

Read also this scripture titus 2:9 $ 10
And colossians 3:22 $ 23

Early christians were either self employed or they worked for persons....

Paul himself was a slave so to speak........



Its either ur d boss or some1 is ur boss.......

One way or d other we are all slaves.....

But ofcus God is our grand master..........

Whom ever u serve ur a slave to that person....

That's why paul could again say @ galatians 5:13 that christians shuld slave for one another

Don't always envision d slavery d isrealites passed thru under d hands of d egyptians as d only definition for slavery or one being a slave........



It encompasses a lot..............

Titus 2:9-10
New International Version (NIV)
9 Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, 10 and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive.

1 Corinthians 7:21-23
New International Version (NIV)
21 [b]Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—[/b]although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.

fellis: This is a rhetorical question isn't it?

Muslim Woman and Non-Muslim Man

Under no conditions is a Muslim woman permitted to marry anyone but a Muslim man. The same verse cited above (2:221) mentions, "Nor marry your girls to unbelievers until they believe. A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever...." No exception is given for women to marry Jews and Christians, so the law stands that she may only marry a believing (Muslim) man. As head of the household, the husband provides leadership for the family. A Muslim woman does not follow the leadership of someone who does not share her faith and values.
http://islam.about.com/od/marriage/a/interfaithmarriage.htm

ijawkid: Ok let's be pragmatic......

Hw many of d early christians owned slaves and how many were slaves??$

I have always told u that ur a slave too........
But u always deny it...

Because In ur brain whenever u hear slave/master its always transatlantic slave trade........

Logicboy ur obsession with slavery is just too much....


Its like u really wanna be a slave


Lool

Mustay: As far as I know and being the first moderator there, Seun was not coerced or threatened to create that section. If someone else who says he/she is a Muslim threatened Seun, that I can't verify (and that's left for the owner to disclose) but am writing based on the interactions I had then with Seun as the object of that section. It's not everyone that wants to 'fight a supremacy war' or the sorts. Its purpose was for 'enlightenment' but like I wrote earlier, some people have different reasons for being online. If other faiths want their particular section, I see no problem with that but the problem is where/when mischievious people are always keen on derailing the section even when the 'reason' for the section is CLEAR. It's like writing about D' banj consistently in the Sports section.

fellis: ^ There was only one email, only one threat by only one person. At least that was what Seun said in that thread. And no, the person was not asking for a seperate section. He was asking Seun to do sth abt the way non-muslims throw insults at Muslims and everything they consider holy.
Seun started a new section cos he thought that would be a way to stop it.

ijawkid: Ya misunderstanding and mis-interpretation of pauls word is what has kept u deluded....................


I have explained several times what paul meant but u wouldn't listen to realy understand d import of his words......

What did paul mean when he mention slaves be obedient to ur masters

Was he talking about christians taking slaves for themselves or that christians shuld take part in slave trade?

LagosShia: even if you love pointing out the bad things muslims do (as there are bad believers everywhere as there are bad atheists),do not try to make it look as if it is the religion that made them bad;because our religion only teaches us goodness and tolerance and how to defend ourselves against oppressors even if the oppressor claims to be muslim like Yazid.

because our religion only teaches us goodness and tolerance and how to defend ourselves against oppressors even if the oppressor claims to be muslim like Yazid

fellis: ^Mustay said that there were no threats by Muslims for a new section he didn't say there wasn't any threat at all. Stop accusing him of lying.
No, seriously, how old are you? Because I never said I support anyone threatening Seun and here you are saying you want to make me see 'my position'.

vedaxcool: Its so funny that seeing (ill)logic boy debuking a "coincidence" lol , more funny the stuff is so simple yet till this very sec, he cannot even perform the challenge:



another simple test again was a major fail:



he probably would define atheist as being logicboy lol! this sort of people indeed are best described by:



was it Pathygoras i taught it was Aristotle or wait Eistein made a time machine that he used in traveling back in time walahi this people have never made sound argument since i started posting on nl smh X 2

vedaxcool: Funny atheist always mention the "bad" things muslims do but never mention the good things they do, neither do they mention the evils athiest do in the name of atheism . . . well so much for "funny"

crackhouse: i am not surprised at ur comment. Even devil also have a way of using the bible against the children of God. I only pity the devil that's operating in u. I just pray u confess at the point of ur death or before u leave this world.

Mustay: Additionally, there were not any THREATS by Muslims for a separate thread. When Muslims wanna have discussions that requires the understanding of a Muslim, Mr. Davidylan appeared then to be someone who had an issue with that and kept posting 'counters' on every thread. To each his own.

fellis: logicboy how old are you?

Mustay: One of the reasons for the Islam for Muslims section was as the name implies, for muslims to discuss and interact on matters that concern them (as muslims).

I don't bother visiting a lot of sections 'cos of the 'terms of debate' a la arguments and curses. Unfortunately, just like Nigerians in real life, most are interested in showing how their religion is better than the other and never seeing any g in the word 'good' in other's beliefs. Everyone has different objectives and methods of how to 'enlighten and learn' on the internet but well, the setback of the net is that any Tomiwa, Dickson and Haruna can post anything behind a pc.

ijawkid: U can say what u wanna say bro....

Time will tell.......

Life goes on....

I'll refer u back to this post when it starts happening....

As for me I follow Jesus who would never pick up arms to fight or go to war irrespective of the reason......


I am neutral like Jesus and his disciples who didn't engage in any killings or warfare......

Time will tell who are true christians and how they differ from atheists in so many ways......

ijawkid: U can say what u wanna say bro....

Time will tell.......

Life goes on....

I'll refer u back to this post when it starts happening....

As for me I follow Jesus who would never pick up arms to fight or go to war irrespective of the reason......


I am neutral like Jesus and his disciples who didn't engage in any killings or warfare......

Time will tell who are true christians and how they differ from atheists in so many ways......

ijawkid: Like I told u peace is relative.....

So wait b4 u start praising ur crazy atheist nations......


We are watching....

I'll remind u when they all start getin mad.....


U wanna exonorate atheists and put all d blame on religion.......??

Sometin must be wrong with ur head.......


I'll remind u of this discussion in times to come

U wanna tell me all d nuclear war heads been produced and weapons of mass destruction been produced were made by religion...............

benatex: when one dies,the nxt tin is judgement.it's either heaven or hell.In rare cases,some r given 2nd chances to go bak and preach d gospel