₦airaland Forum

cbrass: You are very wrong, pls stop peddling lies for Godsake!! Ooni will always remain a high priest that he has always been and it will remain like that. Or what is the meaning of the word Ooni to you, you people know the truth but will always run away from it. The standadised and must popular and recognised language is the Oyo language and culture from which all other yoruba regions drew theirs, why aint we speaking Ife language today doesn't this tell you something here

What lies High priest Wat high priest function is the Ooni even performing?? although some say Ooni has only one day off from rituals and prayers, I don't see the Ooni office being that of a priest??
Let's even say it's a priest? So what? Ife has always had king priests from it's earliest known history.

Again with this language?? This shows that you don't know history and what you stated before is wack, you keep bringing up language as if we all don't know why Oyo language is wide spread.
It's simply because of the oyo empire which took much parts of Modern western Nigerian extending to Togo and Benin...like English language spread to the British colonies in Africa

The coming Christian missionaries also further pushed the oyo language which is the root of the so called "standard Yoruba"

But then what has this got to do with Alaafin and Ooni??

all other Yoruba regions didn't draw their culture or language from Oyo?? Other regions have what they stand for, their own language or dialect which got nothing to do with Oyo
There are many people in my Village who can't speak "Yoruba" they speak Ekiti which an Oyo man would never understand

pazienza: There is nowhere in Nigeria known as Odualand, what we have are states.Only states are recognized by the constitution.

A Nigerian can live in any Nigerian state, irrespective of what a person from a backward state thinks.

So, like you were asked before, why did you leave your poverty stricken Osun state, for Lagos,an FG built state, aka a no man's land?

You are a big idiotic and uneducated individual

FG never built Lagos state, Lagos state was built by the grace of Olokun

FG has no running project in Lagos state
FG isn't of the same party as LASG
in the whole Lagos only ikoyi, Victoria island and Lagos Island were Nigeria's capital...this is only about 30% of the entire state as it is today

Go get some education you fool

stinggy: Don't twist history pls, there wasn't Oyo at the time. He went back to Ife to inherit his father's throne but left disappointed to establish Oyo as the first Alaafin

Lol where did u hear this?

Because as I know, Obalufon was king of ife when Oranmiyan left Oyo to take back the throne of his fathers. This made Obalufon run to Ekiti region.
Why would Oranmiyan be disappointed

unless you can show me how am wrong and you right.

tintingz: False..

arrange marriage and child bride is a costume in africa, infact the rate of the practice is high.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage

maybe in ur part of Africa. Where I come from I have never heard of arrange marriage with children

alexleo: Air is invisible yet we feel it and also see
the impact. Electric current is invisible yet
we see its effect on our appliances. When
u also touch a live wire u feel the shock
of the current. God (you can call him
source of creation if you like) is invisible
yet we see his creative work. Those of us
who have had encounter with him feels
his presence within us. Nothing states
that what you have not experienced or
encountered does not exist.
I am talking about the source of creation.
For such a source that creation came
from, it has characteristics of which
creativity is one of them. If the source can
be creative why should you rule out the
fact that there are other attributes
attached to the source? Does it take
nothing to be creative?
For a source through which creatures
with emotions etc came out from, you
can't just rule out things just like that.
You are looking at the source as a man.
And as a being In your exact appearance.
That's not what I'm looking at.

Quick question...is God more wind than
human??
Since by your explanation, he seems to share
more with air than men

@apatheist yes Sango is the same as Amadioha if you understand both concepts

alexleo: Commune with him with an unbiased mind.
He is invisible. He is everywhere. You don't
even need to attach him to any religion. Just
talk to him as the creator and tell him you
want to feel his presence in your life. If you
are sincere, you will witness him.
Many atheists that converted to christianity
started out with him as the creator. They had
several encounter with him under no
religion. It was after some time that they got
their convictions and joined christianity.

selling his religion in the guise of "you don't have to follow religion"

You keep talking of having a relationship with God outside religion when your entire God ideas are based on religion
Such hypocrisy

finofaya: Yeah I get you. Concept or idea, I doubt God is more than either.

well to a degree as you.must have.realized that Various tales about "Gods" represent some truths in our reality

tintingz: at what age do you think our African fathers marry our mothers in the past?

don't forget the arranged marriage system.

20-30 years old

Arranged marriage Prove this

texanomaly: I didn't ask what culture says the law is "supposed" to be. I asked what the law actually is.

you don't understand

Nigeria has no define law
We are a people of many different cultures, hence customary law exists
I believe acting upon your culture is legal on that ground

Zeinymira: Mtcheew.
It no use going in circle with you since u refused to use your head for what it is meant for.
6 years old of more than 1400 years ago is the same with today present 6 year old ba? Ok o I hear you
Society that will not accept child marriage won't accept it and we are not denying that.
There's no verse in the Quran that says you should marry a child. Gypsies in Europe marry as early as 9 buh no one is talking because it is their culture.
Don't quote me again!!

It seems you are naturally daft or jst been stupefied by Islam

6yrs old remains 6yrs old..doesn't matter what age or era. Everybody knows 6yrs old is a young child whether 3000yrs ago or now

The fact that Arabs have no problem marrying 6 year olds doesn't mean an African man should do the same in the name of "Islam is ok with it"
Yoruba traditions like many in Africa(if not all) is against child marriage. Only fools who have turned themselves to Arab slaves engage in this

Simple as that, your Islamic blindness has shut ur reasoning

macof: Foly let's discuss the nature of Aganju, Sango's father.
Aganju presides over wat exactly? I've seen santeria articles saying he is Orisha of volcanoes and deserted places but I think being Sango's father it would have more to do with the Sun

Have u ever heard from a Babalawo anything on Aganju?

From wikipedia

Aganjú is aforce that, like the sun that is his symbol, is essential for growth, as well as a cultivator of civilizations.
Aganjú is noted for his legendary strength and his ability to bring about drastic change.
Aganju is heavily associated with Shango, with some stating that he is Shango's father

according to what I have read, Aganju is the force in Hot places and the unknown/unexplored eg. Deserts, Volcanoes
He is responsible for the mysteries of the unknown and burning desires/emotions i.e anger, hatred, curiosity etc.

@folykaze.

Orungan represents Solar Air, i.e Oxygen (emitted from the Sun's heliosphere) which literally intermingle with hydrogen across the atmosphere to produce Water on earth.
If Aganju is Shango's father as well as Orungan than he should be related to the Solar energy which possess thermal energy that charges up in the atmosphere as one major component of lightening. Today this same thermal energy is converted artificially to produce electricity

Helium is a gas of unusual high temperature, it is responsible for the heat we get from the Sun.
and Thermal energy is the energy of a single body by virtue of temperature.

All these has made me see a side of Aganju I never realized

Bastage: You do know that Jesus is a very common name in Latin America where this ship was headed?
It has nothing to do with the name of Christ.

Ironically one of the Portugese ships that Hawkins plundered for slaves was called the Madre De Deus (The Mother of God).

Mother of God...that's ur Mary dude

All surrounds ur Christian principles

Christianity and Islam were crucial advocates of the slave trade

texanomaly: You said culture. Does the law say the same thing?

Culture is supposed to be the bedrock of the law

Zeinymira: Did you miss the part where I wrote "Islam does not force you or me to marry at that age?
See,it all boils down to your society.
No one is picking Arab culture or whatever
Its not an Islamic teaching to say you must do this!
The people during the time of d Prophet(S..W) did not complain,that means it was their norms. We don't know what six year old look like then.

See how blind you are to reason.
Trying to twist simple things.

6years old is 6yrs old, there's nothing like "what they look like then"

Arabs are known for paedophilia, it's a shame on a non-Arab to copy Arabs to the extent of engaging in child marriage which is a sin where I come from

chy101: I went to bust some of the mysteries of the 'sophisticated' people in Nigeria. I don't live in the SW either!

That settles it.

So shut up and mind your alaigbo business

chy101: I personally went to the place..I was shocked when I saw that it was mainly yolobass that live in that area..

You went there looking for accommodation

chy101: Ibadam is a complete slum and rural that deserves to be demolished to pave way for decent development..

how can one demolish a city?? Dude you lack sense

chy101: I took the below pix in Lagos where mostly yolobass live. Most Igbos that live in Lagos are mostly residing within the highbrow areas of the city..

that's Oko-Oba
the image you posted is the site of a local timber factory, it's nt residential

chy101: Shut up your poo..

There are no Igbos in yolobarland except Lagos which is a no man's land and FG enclave..

The reason you cannot find Igbos in yolobarland is that Igbos do not live in mud house because rural areas as ibadan, abeokuta, oshogbo etc were all built 100% with red earth mud and rustuc zinc..

Igbos are everywhere, both rugged Towns and nice cities all around Yorubaland

Even in Lagos, you find Igbo most in the Ghetto areas in places like Ajegunle where many Yoruba can't even reside

gbanikiti: Because its not the largest city. But an ancient city with badagry, benin et al

Wat does this mean?
you talk like one with little intelligence.

gbanikiti: There's Lagos city in Lagos state. Lagos island is a city.

And Ibadan is bigger than Lagos island

Cairo is the only city bigger than Ibadan in the whole Africa

Zeinymira: How could he do this?
Every society has its norms.
Every culture has its norms.
If the norm of today society is that a woman should marry at 18,tomorrow it might be 2o even 30.
Does that mean that those who married someone 18 years old many years back are paedophille?
It depends on the norms
Islam does not force you or me to marry at that age.
It has to do with our society.
In some part of Europe,the gypsies marry as early as 6,9,13,they even have their first baby at 12 but no one is talking!!!
U can google.
Some 9 year old looks like 20year old in some other countries.
We are not interested in this arguement.

Buh am sure this won't stop you guys from asking this kwesion all over again

True one should respect people's culture but it's utter stupidity and slavery for an African coming from a culture that frowns against child marriage to pick up Arab culture and traditions like that.

Benin City is a reserve of rich traditions and high reverence for the traditional monarch (Oba of Benin), who once led a powerful Empire.
One of such traditions is the habit of
addressing the Oba of Benin by various
appellations instead of his actual names as sign of deep respect and awe. It is no wonder, therefore, that the Oba of Benin
is known by several appellations.

Such appellations are:
Ovbi' Umogun Oza
The Child of the Oba whose mother hailed from Oza

Ovbi' Ekpen N' Owa
The son of the home leopard

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila

Ikeji Orisa
Second in command to the gods

Agbaghe, N'Ovbi Olokun
Olokun's son, the cynosure of all mortals

Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).

Ovbi' Ada, Ovbi' Eben
The child of the owner of the Ada =
scimitar and Eben = royal sword, Edo
symbol of sovereignty.

Ovbi'Ekenekene ma deyo
The son of beauty that never fades.

Ovbi'Ekuaho N'Olo, Ovbi'Ekuabo N'Olo
The son of the rocky arm, the brave and
powerful

Ovbie Ikpinhianbo kpuru no Gb'oduma
The son of the short fingered man that
was still able to kill a lion

Nohien utete no gh'ughe s'omwan
The king on a hill, who sees more than
everybody

Ovbi'Oghonwan nei bun aro
The son of the fearless, who looks
without twinkling his eyes

Ovbi'ode, ode n'ohan ren mu' ete
The son of the warrior whose enemies
got frightened at the announcement of
the approach

Uku Akpolokpolo
The mighty that rules

Ovbi' Adolo no dolo uwa dolo utomwen/b]
The son of the wise judge and peace
maker who combined wisdom and
wealth with long life
[b]
Ovbi' oven owie no gbaisi
The son of the morning sun that covers
everywhere

Ovbi' Akpogunla, ogie no y'igho b'owa
The child of the womb of Akpogunla - the
warrior who fought big wars and built a
house of cowries


Oba n'osa
A king that is god

Ovbi' otolo n'olomi; Ologberonmwon nei rie iruen, ebo, ayemwinre eminiminimini
The son of the water controller, the son
of beauty itself, the starter of things and
the person whose reign saw people with
many tongues


These appellation are in cognissance of
the greatness of the Omo n'oba ne edo,
the Oba of Benin.

Why's no one taking about Avatar Ruko and Avatar Kioshi

Kioshi was badass in her days

Ubenedictus: hmmm...

It is a thread on intolerance, aren't those funny divisions pointers to intolerance?

back when I was still a Christian, I was indifferent about all the Christian groups.

So I guess everybody isn't intolerant to the different denominations

finofaya: I don't know if you can even misunderstand something like that. I mean, its a mirage in the first place. Its not an actual thing. I think that's one of the reasons why everybody has a different idea of it.

I know wat I mean when I say God is just a concept.
An idea, you can say

People usually misunderstand the concept of God.

That's the problem

malvisguy212: John1:14.International Standard Version. The Word became flesh and lived among
us. We gazed on his glory, the kind of
glory that belongs to the Father's unique
Son, who is full of grace and truth.

Do the Jews know about this??

are they aware of Jesus being the first of all creation...no no...being the word that created ?

You know Jesus lived among them not your ancestors

chrisviral: You have a problem! A very big one!

Do you deny ur god Yahweh instructing men to rape women??