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thorpido: Spiritual things have never been established by logical things.Faith demands that what is believed is not seen to the physical eyes.The bible questions the rationality in a man having faith for what he can see.

So you are wrong saying intelligence and logical thinking is the bedrock of spiritual things.

Only because you don't know what Spirituality is.

The Bible is not a spiritual guide but a religious book, there's nothing like a spiritual guide other than your own Ori/Chi which manifests as your intelligence and ability to make rational thoughts among others. Spirituality isn't built on faith, religion is.
Get the difference

JesusisLord85: 1. The negro tribes of the former 'slavecoast' are the true Jews of the bible. Your question is therefore redundant.

2. Did the whole of Judah reject Yahshua? No. The scribed and pharisees raised up people against him. But we also know many followed after him We also know many were brought into the fold AFTER the resurrection.

3. Yes, the romans took the religion of the Jews and added their pagan traditions to it, this gave birth to roman catholicism. The protestants came many centuries later. If that is not a sign the whole thing is a scam, I don't know what could be clearer.

So: Forget world religions. Jew/Israelite is a nationality, not a religion per se. Just like us west africans, you cannot divorce religion and culture. But we know why our fathers worshipped wood and stone, among other things, we were cast out of Israel and found ourselves in west africa. And from there, many of us were carried off again into captivity in the americas.

But do not fear. The prophets have published it! The Most High shall gather his lost sheep and bring them back into the promised land, in the end times.
The edomites (oyinbo) of today will have you believe God stripped Israel of the eternal promise and is going to put them back in the land. Lol. Imagine that, the moabites, ishmaelites, ammonites and edomites keeping the laws and commandments in the end times. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Shalom

This one has lost his mind. the Bible has taken away his sanity

thorpido: You don't understand spiritual things.You can't follow logical reasoning with spiritual things.It doesn't work that way.I understand you want the logical but it doesn't mix with the spiritual.It's like saying liquid flows and solid must flow too.

The jews do not believe because they turned in disobedience to God and that makes wisdom foolishness to them.It's not about being smart.Earthly smartness does not work with God.

This is the biggest lie Christian peddle.

Intelligence and logical thinking is infact the bedrock of "spiritual things"
You don't know spiritual until it fits with your reality and not some imaginary tale you were told or you read.

What you do is RELIGIOUS THINGS not spiritual

Back to the main topic...
The Jews are the only people who witnessed Jesus, how come they reject the tales of the Romans who knew little about Jesus mainly from hear say and town rumors??

This is something that demands thought and rationality not assumptions and blind faith...blind faith is nothing but delusion.

Fulaman198: Chadic people look very Sudanic I mean tall, super dark and lanky. Kind of like the Dinkas and Nuers. In any case, that's besides the point. Let us keep this thread on topic. Are the Igbos the Proto-Bantus. I would love to hear what Igbo people think instead of all us non-Igbos.

Isn't Radiollo Igbo??

Personally am disappointed with many Igbo and how they play social promiscuity with their history.
Igbo need to really look into their history as it relates to them and not looking for the slightest opportunity to make ridiculous links with other cultures.

History is a beautiful thing, we all should strive to learn our history and persevere our identity

truthman2012: Everyone is entiled to his/her opinion, but as long as they could not provide proof their opinions do not matter.

Abraham had many sons and the probability is very high that they spread to those places after the original owners had been overthrown.

WTF is wrong with u dude??

You ask for proof that this people have always been in their land when in the same post you make an assumption without any Proof.

What child of Abraham ever ventured into Lebanon, or Syria?? Name one battle in the entire Bible that a child of Abraham overthrew this people..
"probability is very high" my foot. you know nothing about probability..if you don't know history and geography pls get lost, we not talking probability here

Go study your Bible and stop listening to pastors who want to keep deceiving you for tithes, seeds and offering

lastmessenger: Am done with you.why waste time when am sure that you will never believe me.

How can you be sure

The Bible says in Colosians 4:6 that you should answer every man

Why go against scriptures? Or u don't have answers?

truthman2012: Who says today's Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria are not descendants of Abraham just as Saudi Arabia is? Tell us whose descendants they are.

Everyone says. The Jordanians, Lebanese and Palestinian for example are mostly of Amorite, Edomite, Philistine and Phoenician ancestry. If am nt mistaken The old Phoenicia is the same location as Lebanon

Tolexander: Pre second world war, Israel(nation) wasn't existing in that geographical location. It was occupied by Palestine though there was zionism until after the war when Israel was carved out in 1948. The arab nations revolted.

During the 6 days war of Arab-Israeli War in June 1967, Israel grab some land territories from the neighbouring arab countries, Golan Height from Syria, West Bank From Jordan and Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip from Egypt. Many of these seized territories have been returned base on the UN directives.

Base on the above, we can't 'really' say Yaweh failed in his promise!

My good sir. let's examine this carefully

I assume you know middle eastern geography well

The river of Euphrates isn't jst Golan Height and the West bank. It flows directly into Syria and out.
which means the greater parts of Syria, from the West to the city of Halabiye is part of the promised land, the whole of Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan which is between the rivers of Egypt and Euphrates

See photo of the land that goes between these body of waters which Yahweh promised

cbrass: There is nothing like highpreist King, its either u r a king or an highpriest..opps sorry you just short your self in the leg

Then you don't know Yoruba history Mr. go learn some and come back

curiouses: Good one AregbaRascal. Waiting for the FG to follow suit. It's high time we recognized our own. Isese L'agba!

The federal government is a failed administration. They have not for once done anything good for the culture, traditions and spirituality of the people

Whats your answer? Has Yahweh failed in his promise??
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria

Kay17: You still lack the ability to see the future, hence you are lying to speak with absolute certainty. You walk with God, yet your knowledge is as fallow as ignorance. You don't know the number of species in the ocean, nor the God particle, nor the number of galaxies in the Universe, nor the number of Universes; yet you walk with God.

Few understand anything about the very earth they inhabit talkless of the vast universe.
Walk with God yet God didn't tell u other planets exist

lastmessenger: I know you don't believe in the bible

Is the Bible ur work??

Pls tell me what you know about God that you want to teach us about God when you have never seen or spoken to him

malvisguy212: in the old testament, when the God want to reach out to the people it's through his prophet and they start like this"the word of God came to me" what dos this mean? When adam sin, man lost communication with God,but after man ask for forgiveness, the only way God would reach out to man it is by his prophet,but the people would not listen to his prophet, some they killed others they reject,God decided to take the realm of the flash,and reconcile man back to himself,now, wither man chose to be ignorance of not,the scripture has been fulfilled,you have a choice to believe or not to believe.

the jews reject christ because they
thought the messiah will win war and
deliver the kingdom to isreal.
Acts1:6. Then they gathered around him
and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time
going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them: “It is not for you to
know the times or dates the Father has
set by his own authority. 8 But you will
receive power when the Holy Spirit
comes on you; and you will be my
witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the
earth.”


if you want to know the more about the deep things of God,GO AND STUDY ALL THE PARABLE OF JESUS CHRIST WITH A TEACHABLE SPIRIT.

You don't know your Bible.

I don't blame you, you only follow what pastor says and don't use ur brain.

Ur God revealed himself in person either by voice or in physical appearance or signs to Jews so many times
Eg. Exodus 20. Numbers 12

Youngsage: Blasphemy!!! May you know God's forgiveness, of your iniquities before it becomes too late...

Wat rubbish blasphemy. I am reporting truths that ur pastors would want to hide from you

malvisguy212: on one thread you say jesus did not exist , you say the jews reject him, I even give you bible verse the reason the jews reject him, and now you're tellin me 'jesus is a failure', what your problem with jesus? Did he do you harm?haven't you read the bible how nice Jesus is? jesus is a good man, a good man cannot be a failure.

I never said Jesus never existed. I said no man with the name "Jesus" existed at that time
Jesus is a fake name, so when you say Jesus is name above all names you are only being foolish and ignorant of what Jesus is as a Christian

U showed me a verse, I showed you a thread why Jews reject him...did u read through the thread? Or u too lazy to read??

A good man doesn't mean a successful man, btw Jesus wasn't good, a man that goes against the laws of the land is not good

axum: Idiot Somali, Oromo, are Cushitic languages that are spoken in Somalia, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Northern Kenya.

Amahara, Tigrrey are Semetic languages that are also part of the Afroasiatc languages, Somalis in Coastal towns and in Eritrea also speak Arabic.

Hausa is not spoken in Horn, but many linguistics don't count Hausa as Afroasiatc

And what many linguistics are this??

Although there is a case I read that Hausa evolved from a Nilotic language to Afroasiatic

pesty100: but moses saw something(I think glory) when he went to the mountian to collect commandment from God, and he is even said to have been the only man to see God

this example u gave is small.

I remember my days as a Christian, I first came across this passage...Numbers 12:4-10 it is actually one of the reasons I call much of the Bible crap.
"and the lord spoke suddenly to Moses, Aaron and Miriam.. and the lord came down in a pillar of cloud and stood in the door of the tabernacle and called Aaron And Miriam and they both came forth, and he said Hear my words:...with Moses will I speak mouth to mouth...and the anger of the lord was kindled against them and he departed, the cloud departed off the tabernacle..."

does this describe a Man or an invisible spirit?

alexleo: Super natural is beyond the natural.

Oya answer my own questions. Are you and atheist? If you are not then give me your own concept of the creator. Let's see if I may learn one or two things from there. Over to you. Cheers.

Sorry but more questions...what is natural? And what are the sources of supernatural and natural?

I am a Yoruba, that's my only identity.
based on my search and experience, there's no God, be it Zeus, Jehovah, Obatala etc. but there are spirits personified as Gods The creator is one of this Gods(often called the supreme God) the first cause, self-existent and the beginning of all consciousness.
The creator created from itself, and not from nothing. As such all of creation possess the consciousness (spirit) of the creator, the sum of this consciousness is the spirit that is personified as God (the supreme). We can say as humans, or as Alexleo you are in God as it is in you literally, because this spirit is everything (and not jst it's source) in every sense of the word.

However when we talk of Gods in general, Gods or gods are spirit forms of this first God, each incharge of one expect of universal existence(or more depending on how they related to each other ie. Ecstasy and Love, beauty and feminism, fire and anger, iron and war etc.)
now by spirits I mean, inorganic and unseen but movers with consciousness that manifest into the "seen". as such they have no human characteristics whatsoever, they rather provide us with our characteristics.
That is why I disagree with you when u say God feels wrath or love, but then I understand as your understanding of the unseen is not like mine.

ketoprofen: U don't even know current affairs.

I've told you simple facts

Mintayo: He is God alone! There is none beside him.
He is the God of of gods.
The King of kings.
The Lord of lords.
He is Who He says He Is.
He is the Most Powerful, Most Gracious, Most Forgiven, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate, Most fearful.
He is Omnipresent, Omniscience, omnipotent!

There's no such thing as God of Gods

temigracie: ...Yeah, thats true....
..We cant handle the rejection and the shame of being rejected.....
..Some immature guys will even tell their friends about it...

but then girls are best at this kind of amebo.

FOLYKAZE: Seriously this a new to me. But I really welcome it.

Would try to read up about Aganju. I go reply you after

Good, expecting the reply

finofaya: Possibly. What kinds of truths?

Well for one, that there's an unseen consciousness all around our world

texanomaly: Actually just believing is not enough. Faith demands action.

To be honest I've become one of the "so called" Christians of late. I know all I should be doing and am failing miserably.

The actions you speak of are all about the Bible

Being a bad Christian, doesn't make anyone a non-Christian
And as an ex-Christian I know there's little Faith in christianity, it is Hope you all exercise and call faith

malvisguy212: the jews reject christ because they thought the messiah will win war and deliver the kingdom to isreal.
Acts1:6. Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time
going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has
set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit
comes on you; and you will be my
witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea
and Samaria, and to the ends of the
earth.”

All you saying here is complete rubbish.

The Jewish Messiah is not Jesus, Jesus is a failure, he never fulfilled prophecy.

Read here for what makes the true Messiah
www.nairaland.com/1496957/jewish-messiah

ketoprofen: Of course na u go control am?
Na you build am?
Nigeria is a net importer and we have all 3 ports in one place, what do you expect?
U know the tribe that generate 70% of port revenue, dont you?
Yes, the ports brought investments and people to Lagos, a former FG capital too.
Now scram

Is it that you jst naturally daft or what??

Lagos state was never FG capital

lastmessenger: I have not seen God before.God is either male or female or both.so it does not make a difference if I use he or she.

You have not seen God, but you think you know what he Likes and dislikes, you have not seen God but you think he spoke to some desert cave men, you have not seen God but you think you know how he created the world

Wat then do you know about God to come here telling us about God

alexleo: I started this discussion without attaching it to my relgion. My take is still the bible account. You and I know that I'm a christian so what's the hypochricy there? But I wanted to discuss the creator across board but he kept pushing the question about God and the bible to me and of course I can't deny what I ve proved.

Yet I still believe some people encountered God outside relgion. I ve seen such testimonies.

it is hypocrisy to say "have a relationship with God outside religion" when christianity is the so called relationship you talking about

by God u probably mean the Christian God, cus I assume Zeus is not a God to you.
...on this ground, it's impossible to encounter Jehovah without having Christian doctrines in your head..this is what I call delusion after faith

alexleo: You played wayo here you know. .
This wasn't the original post you made earlier. You don adjust am bros. .

God or the creator(whichever one you choose to refer him) is not mortal and physical. He is super natural, a spiritl and invisible to the natural eyes. I can't tell his shape. I just used air to explain his invisible nature. Not that he is like air. Air is not supernatural, air is not a spirit being.

signal problem, I didn't know it went until later

Wat makes air not "supernatural". And What makes anything considered supernatural??

ketoprofen: the rest of Lagos developed based on the infrastructures in the said 30%.
Where are the ports located?

Wat Ports, is it ports that develop a State? Ports which FG exclusively controls with their various parastatals?? you must be crazy to even think Lagosians owe Nigerians anything by Ports

Lagos is strictly Yorubaland, all you are is a man looking for greener pastures in Oduduwa's land