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sonmvayina:
If you where sensible enough you would have just continue with your heritage why did you switch to the Christian scriptures if it has no basis from the old testament..
You are still the one making a wrong choice..

I submitted to laws that makes sense to me just as you've always talked about what makes sense to you in this 21st century!

sonmvayina:
I am a teacher..
You cannot come to a public forum to sprew lies and thrash and you think intelligent people will not notice.
I did and I am pointing them out for others to see so as to make an informed decision...
I know how hard it can be given the years of indoctrination and child abuse..

Teachers only engage people who want to learn from them Sir that's why our own Jesus taught us to go and meet people in their homes, knock on their door, greet them, introduce ourselves and our message before laying the foundation for TEACHING.
It makes no practical sense coming to a forum where adults like you converge only to start insulting them for not agreeing with your opinion!

sonmvayina:
Look mate..
I don't believe any mumbo jumbo new testament bull crap..

Good, so keep what you believe to yourself after all nobody sent you here to preach like Jesus who sent his own disciples out to preach and teach in all their neighbourhood!

Ken4Christ:
Continue continue continue. Satan is celebrating. You are a son of perdition.

Just as you're also a son of perdition to me!

bobestman:
I speak of spiritual knowledge or divine knowledge. It takes a divine knowledge to understand a divine entity. God is a spirit and those who claim to worship him must do so in Spirit and Truth.

I have seen an insane on the street mimicking that so because Jesus said something and you mimicked doesn't mean you have anything upstairs what proves you're sane is the FRUIT as in PRACTICAL BENEFITS of what you're saying {Matthew 7:16-18} in the absence of that you're no good than the madman in our street!

Wilgrea7:
If the majority of people in Nigeria today decided that JWs were a criminal organization and deserve to be exterminated by hanging, would that make them right? Would you agree with them?.. or do you just choose hypocrisy when it suits you

(1) If the majority DECIDED.
(2) If it's passed into law.
But i want to continue being a JW then i have to leave that place, remember you're not living in the jungle with deadly predators because you want PEACE so apply the same logic here haba don't you atheists believe in logic again?

tctrills:
Let's not make it an issue. Call me whatever you guys call people like me

An atheist!

LordReed:
We have showed you before there are other pacifist groups some even older than your cult.

And who know these so called pacifist groups in your village?
If i follow you to your village today i will eat, drink even go for recreation with JWs because Jesus is working with his group {Matthew 28:20} making sure that throughout the earth members of his group are touching lives.
This is not about some groups confined to a race!

tctrills:
Ok, call me names if that makes you happy. Let's not let that come in the way of discussion.

I'm only telling you what you really are, there are people out there claiming atheists which means it's not an insult but a befitting name for people who don't share the same believe with anyone!

tctrills:
I am not sure you understand what we are talking about. Why did you see a lie and what box do you mean? Please come back to the topic. It seems you are chatting with someone else and confusing him with me.

There are people whom the first century Christians avoid {Romans 16:17} they don't greet nor eat with such people {2John 10-11} and it's simply because such people left their group! 1John 2:19

That's exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing today!

bobestman:
The deluded ones know themselves. They are Cultist who claim to be doing God's work but never know that God don't look at works but knowledge of who He is
Seeing they don't see. Hearing they don't hear. Neither did they understand the scriptures
They are not led by the spirit of God cos they don't believe if their is any at all. They say they are sons but are not led by the spirit of God. How then can you be called sons?
True sheep are those who hear the voice of their maker. They don't hear. They don't believe anyone who says he hears from God or see visions.
They claim they are disciples of the Messiah but have no power to do any miracle or any extraordinary thing. They forgot that the Messiah gave his ppl power to do great things.
They say they are the witnesses but have no power to do what the Witnesses will do
They say they preach but have no power or gift given to those called to witness. Didn't the disciples recieve the holy spirit before they went out to witness? Hahaha Witnesses without power

All they are good at is stealing bible references and claim that they are the one fulfilling it. What a bunch of ignorant folks

Such Church are called a dead Church. They lack power and knowledge of the word and who God truly is. Such groups are counselled to go and get salv and anoint their eyes and ears so they could see and hear from the one they call God. They do the bidding of their gb and claim to work for God. May their eyes recieve light. May they see and hear from their maker.

There's no knowledge in what you can't put to visible WORKS! James 2:18-26

Mad people also have knowledge but do you know why they're insane?
Well it's because all their knowledge can't be put to any PRACTICAL use!

tctrills:
The same way you relate with any human being.

Must you lie now that you can't find a way out of the box?
Well those are the people they agreed not to greet or dine with! Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11

tctrills:
I would try to respect you and not call you names

You're an atheist no doubt about that, i don't need your respect tell me the truth!

tctrills:
You should use your dictionary more sir. You clearly don't know the meaning of simply words.

Dictionary will only tell you atheism mean lack of believe in GOD but then what is GOD?
Well GOD is the universal title used for the SUPREME BEING, you and i are human being so the only way to prove we believe in the existence of one who is supreme is agreement on the same line of thought as established by the one who is supreme. John 17:22
So if both of us disagree but you presented a group of people that you agreed with on right and wrong then you surely believe in the supreme being on whose principle you agreed with the group.
I also need to do the same afterwards we now compare the positive results (fruit) of your group with mine! Matthew 7:16-18

But once you don't believe in group then it means you have no one to agree with on standards which makes you your own god: atheist!

Broveens42:
Lol... Please leave my friend max.
Max is a Very funny dude but very easy to argue against....
Lol...promised Earth but defending invisible characters.... hahahaha

Because the invisible is performing excellently!

tctrills:
Did the bible not say that God gave his son and we are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ?

This is what makes you an atheist!
As long as you can't present any group of people with whom you agree completely on the issue of faith then you're just a disguised atheist!

Wilgrea7:
None of the mumbo jumbo you've written here explains why these actions should be accepted as right.
In Islamic fundamentalist countries.. they believe apostates should be punished for leaving the religion. Does that make it right?

Democracy is the government of the people by the people and for the people, not so?

Therefore it's constitutionally right as long as the majority in that place agree with the law, mind you the law is the people and the people is the law so if you don't want to abide by what the majority in a community says and the government (authority) has passed the move into law you have to leave their land for them.

tctrills:
Visiting someone is not always an indication of love.
The Apostles were talking about disfellowshipping. They are no longer part of the congregation.
I still advise you to be civilized and not call names. Every organization can be criticized.

So when they DISFELLOWSHIP a person can you tell this forum how they relate with such a person?

tctrills:
I could call you an atheist because you don't agree with my own religious perspective but then we would both be calling each other names and we would both look stupid. So I decide to respect you even though I totally disagree with you.

I have proof that you're an atheist, you can't present any group of people with whom you agree to have the same line of thought and that is what atheism is all about as each person has formed his or her own standard no agreement with anyone.
As for believers they TRUST (BELIEVE) in the same line of thought so if you don't have something of that nature you're an atheist!

sonmvayina:
You dey mistake me with another person
Me wey no believe jesus go come believe hellfire?
How I wan pass do am..
I only talked about reincarnation..no hell fire threat..

So you want to lie that you've never threaten me with HellFire before on this forum, shey?

KnownUnknown:
Lol, such nonsense.

Just as what you're saying makes no practical sense, how can you be complaining about what your neighbour believe yet you can't present any unique kind of faith?

sonmvayina:
You are the one who is disobeying it..
Not me..

This is what you typed:

sonmvayina:
The truth has to be established first..
So you don't kill an innocent person..
And somebody has to make a complaint..

Meaning this law is no longer in force even in the land where it was first established so how do you expect me in Nigeria to keep what the original nation to whom it was given aren't keeping any more?

bobestman:
Take your drugs bro so you don't quote the wrong person again

Keep crying over your delusion!

sonmvayina:
Who made it old?
God Covenant with the Jews is for ever..
God never said the Messiah was coming to change it..
God even told them that anybody who comes to do that is not from him and should be killed..
So did you miss that.?
That is how I know jesus has got nothing to do with god ..

So how come the laws of your god is no longer in operation nah?

sonmvayina:
I guess the indoctrination is deeply rooted.
So it is just you fighting against the truth. And sudden realization that you have wasted your whole life believing in a lie
Rather than confront it, you see it as an attack..

Ọmọ you've been attacking people here joh!

Aren't you the same person who began cursing me with HellFire the other day simply because i disagree with you?

Perhaps you've forgotten all that, there's no need insulting, abusing or cursing people because they can never ever agree with you on what they can't see.

That's why i asked you to present a group of people practicing what your God say so that through observation others can see how your god makes sense but instead you will start talking about cult yet you're looking for people that will agree with you to become what if not the same as cult?

KnownUnknown:
An “Atheist” I’m not.

The title "GOD" connotes "SUPREME BEING" so if you can't present any group of people with whom you agree completely regarding right and wrong that makes you a doubter of the existence of someone who is supreme so you're an atheist.
And whatever makes you complain about what your fellowman believe when you don't have any unique form of believe which is preferable to present then you're an insane because only insanes complain without finding a solution!

tctrills:

So if Nigerian government teaches prospective immigrants the Nigerian law and the one coming agreed to abide with such laws the laws will change after they've become citizens shey? This is the most intelligent thing you have said so far in this discussion. When Jesus told the prospective Christians to love all men, the law did not change for his disciples he expected the same. You are to love all men and not only your brothers. Even your ex-members should be loved.
I hope you get it now.

If we don't love everyone then why do you think we go visiting them in their homes?
As for those who have turned their backs on the tenets that binds us together as brothers Jesus said they're unfit to be our associates {Luke 9:62} so we must avoid having anything to do with them {Romans 16:17; 1John 2:19; 2John 10-11} i wonder why you will not tell us how to apply what the Apostles meant by those words!

tctrills:
You this boy and name calling.
Can we just discuss without calling each other names? can you respect that? I understand why you began the name calling but its not necessary. Just because we don't agree does not make me an atheist.

Oh i forgot you don't know that once you're criticizing JWs you're an atheist to me because the only difference between believers and atheist is compliance to the same line of thought so if you can't present any group with which you agreed totally with their teachings there's no difference between you and those who claims there's no supreme being.

Jesus said that those who believe in the supreme being will all have the same line of thought as One {John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} so my friend you're an atheist!

sonmvayina:
Attack??
Or I educate them that Jesus is not real.
That he was created by the Roman Catholic church.
That he is not the Messiah Gods prophet prophesied about...
So, how does that amount to attack?

OK so you don't know that stylishly insulting and cursing people who disagree with you is a form of attack shey?

Ken4Christ:
Interpret Revelation 19:20 and Revelation 20:10. If you don't, I know you are a coward and very wicked. You just love to twist the Scriptures and turn people away from the truth of God's word.

And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who worship its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulfur. Revelations 19:20

The world's political system (wild beast) was captured and all religions supporting it with their so called visions and prophecies to make people trust them and worship the national anthem making pledges to nationalism instead of God's Kingdom will continue to be in existence until Jesus comes to destroy them all so that their operations will end for good!

And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Revelations 20:10

After Jesus' thousand years reign Satan who was rendered inactive will be released for the last time to mislead survivors that have lasted for a thousand years without false prophets not political entities we know today yet many will still fall for Satan's deception but then Jesus will destroy both Satan and all those that follow him for good. And we will forever continue to remember all the things they did while they were allowed!

KnownUnknown:
You insulting anyone is akin to the dirty mad people I used to see in Lagos insulting the sane. Lol

OK you don't insult shey?
Funny atheists!

sonmvayina:
Have I ever..?
Point it out

Walahi talahi now i know you have brain tumor!

You that you're always going from thread to thread to attack people for believing in Jesus!

bobestman:
You should have taken your Malaria drugs maybe you would have known who to quote exactly.

Keep crying over your delusion!

sonmvayina:
The truth has to be established first..

So you don't kill an innocent person..

And somebody has to make a complaint..

Established where?
Among the same Jews that God gave those laws?

Ọmọ the truth is that the Messiah has come so Jews who stubbornly reject him can now see that such laws has become obsolete never to be uphold again in any modern society where democracy is the order of the day.

So even though you're still doubting Jesus this should help you to know that the old covenant is no longer in force because Jesus the mediator of the New Covenant has come and played his part!

tctrills:
Oga please be humble. If you cannot answer a question just say you cant. You have not told me why Matthew 5-7 is only for prospective Christians yet your organization based its covid19 policy from a verse in Matthew 5

Funny atheist!
So if Nigerian government teaches prospective immigrants the Nigerian law and the one coming agreed to abide with such laws the laws will change after they've become citizens shey?

You're just trying to prove stubborn because i know that you've gotten the sense but you just don't want to agree with the fact that JWs are practicing exactly what Jesus taught!

I told you that Jesus used the sermon on the mount to lay the foundation of the basic tenets of God's Kingdom so that whoever is OK with this new rules is welcome among Jesus' disciples, therefore once they're now his disciples it's the same rule they will continue with, is that not what he later commanded them to go and teach the Jews around Judea? Matthew 10:1-13

Whoever decides to turn down this counsel will surely have serious issues on the day of judgement! Matthew 10:14-15

So stick to what you think you know!