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sonmvayina:
You did not disprove my point.

You went straight to attacking me...

What kind of human being are you?
The worst kind....I guess

Just as you also attack others instead of polite approach!

sonmvayina:
I don't worship anything
I just obey divine commandments and laws set out by the creator of heaven and earth.
And you don't...

Ọ̀DẸ̀ if you're not worshiping anything then in what way are you related to the Jewish God?

sonmvayina:
Lol..if God commanded them to be stones...
Who has the power to change it?

So are Jews still stoning people to death today?

Ken4Christ:
You choose the part you want to believe and close your eyes to the other truths.

The scripture cannot contradict itself.

The beast and the false Prophet are thrown in after Jesus defeats them in Revelation 19:20;

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. THESE BOTH WERE CAST ALIVE INTO A LAKE OF FIRE burning with brimstone.

After 1,000 years of Jesus Reign, Satan is also cast in there. And the scripture says that the beast and the false Prophet are still there;

Revelation 20:10 And the DEVIL THAT DECEIVED THEM WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

You see your lies. The scripture says that the beast and the false Prophet are still there after over 1,000 years because they were thrown in before Jesus Millennium Reign. And Satan was thrown in after the Millennium Reign of Christ.

You see why I say that Jehovah Witness is an anti Christ organization. The Bible says one thing. They say a different thing. And gullible souls like you swallow them hook line and sinker.

The lake of fire means SECOND DEATH there is hope for whoever goes to Hell (Grave) and that is resurrection {Job 14:13-15} which all dead servants of God from Abel to John the baptist will get but as for unrepentant evildoers they will not be remembered for resurrection. Psalms 9:17
So unlike the FIRST DEATH that affects both good and bad people their own portion will be in the lake of fire which means SECOND DEATH or DEATH without a hope of resurrection!
That's what it means not that they will continue to be alive somewhere, God never promised the wicked eternal life rather it's a gift for only the righteous! Romans 6:23

cornelboy:
And you think they didn't know yours is submitted to your sex Lord prophet?
I'm not a JW in case you don't know.
I'm studying with them currently though.

Jesus is the Christ God's only begotten Son!

There are more to that phrase but unless one join Jesus' real disciples he can't understand why Jesus' disciples agreed that he is the Christ.
There are thousands of religions in the world and a of them do talk about virtuous deeds after all that's what people need to remind themselves when they deliberate on the issue of the supreme being.
Jesus is the only person who laid the foundation of faith that can produce all the qualities found in God's attributes {Galatians 5:22-23} that is why he could confidently say his own true disciples will be different from all the false religions claiming worshipers of God due to their FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-18
Satan knew this is the absolute TRUTH so in order to complicate issues for interested persons Satan created over 40,000 sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming denominations of just one religion: Christianity.

Now this is what makes the JWs stand out as a unique group: while all so called ministries only gather people to tell them the usual thing of "do good to people" the JWs keep working on the teachings of Jesus and today the group has achieved what God's word says at Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3

In that Bible verse God promised that in the last days after His true message has been completed people from all races will make use of it and they will achieve what is written in that book well only JWs did through their zealously preaching and industrious teaching from house to house and door to door!

Ken4Christ:
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels

And this shall be your portion since you refuse to believe the truth of God's word.

Funny enough FIRE in the Bible symbolises complete destruction or as Jesus himself puts it second death! Revelations 20:14

Romans 12:10

How can we cultivate tender affection for our brothers and sisters today? When we get to know fellow believers better, we may find it easier to understand them and to develop tender affection for them. Age and background need not be a barrier. Remember, Jonathan was about 30 years older than David; yet he developed a close friendship with him. Could you take an interest in someone who is older​—or younger—​than you? By doing so, you can show that you “have love for the whole association of brothers.” (1 Pet. 2:17) Does having tender affection for fellow believers mean that we will feel equally close to everyone in the congregation? No, that would not be realistic. It is not necessarily wrong to be drawn more to some than to others because of having similar interests. Jesus referred to all his apostles as “friends,” but he had a special affection for John. (John 13:23; 15:15; 20:2) However, Jesus did not show favoritism to John.​—Mark 10:35-40.

Tamaratonye1:
SCIENTISTS CREATE MATTER FROM NOTHING IN GROUNDBREAKING EXPERIMENT

And all scientists unanimously agreed that there is no God, shey?

Funny atheist!

Tithe is part of the Mosaic laws for the Israelites under the Old Covenant but it's not for Christians!

bobestman:
How did your organisation interpret it? Anyone can interpret that. Why ask for interpretation? What you bolded and the question you are asking don't even correlate. Maybe you have another thing in mind or you don't understand me

It was for someone else not you since you're not even sure whether the book is inspired!

So by the end of the day all your questions has been answered even though you choose to be pigheaded towards the practical application as it's logical.
We're not stopping you from worshiping your own god just know that if you're not one of us you can't possibly worship our God.
Thanks for your time!

tctrills:
I actually know how to apply his counsel so thank you. But then you are beating around the bush. You claimed Matthew 5-7 was for prospective Christians. Then I ask you if verse 41 which speaks about going the extra mile, is it also for prospective Christians or the real disciples? We both understand why the question makes you uncomfortable.
Your religious beliefs are not sustainable. You always end up countering yourself. It's funny that despite your imperfect beliefs you keep boasting about it and claim you apply it when in the real sense of it, you are only applying your human logic and it has constantly failed you in our discuss.
You guys are generally good people like most Christians but you have a very conflicting doctrine.
A few days ago Matthew 5.41 was your main recourse in an argument but today, Matthew 5-7 is not for JW rather, it's for prospective Christians.
This is what most religions do to men. It confuses and conflicts them.

Gromilla010:
torment who??!
mugu...you are tormenting yourself...and I won't give you a breathing space since your only consolation is in this faceless forum.
You are More like a programmed robot with virus. your god promised you earth for what? ...so because he promised you earth that is why you are defending the fallible bible....you are very foolish

Any further questions?

KnownUnknown:
That’s an understatement. How can you quarrel with a fictional character? Also keep in mind that he didn’t stay dead in the story. No descriptions of him in the Bible yet he is popularly depicted in a certain manner that doesn’t even make sense. The amount of bullshit in this world is breathtaking sometimes.

Upon all the bullshit there has never been a group that has successfully gathered people in millions throughout the earth and erased the use of weapons in their hearts {Isaiah 2:2-4} apart from just one organization: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

And guess whose teachings they used to accomplish this seemingly impossible task?

The counsel of Jesus Christ {John 13:34-35} the most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} yet you're here saying he never lived, don't you think it's high time you visit the psychiatrist?

KnownUnknown:
Did you write this response while devoid of empathy for other people?
Imagine the executioners digging a hole, they hogtie you and they place you in the hole neck deep with only your head exposed. They commence to throwing rocks at your exposed head. Do you really think it’s moral to stone people?!

When that constitution was read to all the Israelites they agreed so nobody forced it on them and if any of them feel he can't live by it such a person only need to leave that country since majority agreed.
Execution has been in the history of wrongdoers from time immemorial so you're just playing hide and seek!

cornelboy:
Lol. You forgot he commanded adulterers among his chosen people Israel to be stoned to death
while Jesus spared and forgave a woman caught in adultery.

I would say the NT is way better than the OT if I were to compare them.

Don't waste your time and data on sonmvayina because he will continue to dodge the truth, his former landlord is one of those faithless Jews and he has brainwashed him so sonmvayina doesn't want to hear anything about Jesus no matter how beneficial but the stupid thing about him is how he often quote Jesus to back his delusion!

bobestman:
No one can stop anyone recieving judgement. Someone recieving judgement in hell can't come out and go and recieve judgement on the last day again.

Please interpret the below scripture!

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and HELL delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelations 20:13 (holy Bible)

Gromilla010:
then why are you defending the fallible bible if your permanent abode is on earth?
if earth is your permanent abode then you are more foolish than most so called pathetic foolish Christians who are pretending to be good to go to their so called non-existent imaginary heaven... foolishness at its highest peak

You're just bitter for nothing, i will continue to torment you here!
God's word promised me earth not heaven so if you want to address me talk about earth not heaven!

sonmvayina:
Your jesus is an idol .

Don't you get it?

Your PERSONAL opinion just as you're also an idol worshiper to me!

tctrills:
Matthew 5.41 is not for disciples, it's for prospectives have you forgotten.

Prospective disciples as i confidently told you and only those who are willing to live by it stays with him throughout his ministry.

Just as you and i can read it today but i'm the one telling you the practical application whereas you too are claiming Jesus is your Lord yet you don't even care to know how to apply that counseling but i can apply it because i stayed with his anointed brothers who taught me the practical application of what their brother said!

Gromilla010:
you will always be a slave even in your grave...and the painful thing is that there is no imaginary heaven for you ...it's a pity.

There you go again as you got it wrong!

I'm not going to heaven because earth is my permanent abode! Psalms 115:16

LilMissFavvy:
Hmm, she said "someone".

I thought some people say holy ghost is a person!

sonmvayina:
I don't see you doing that ..
Take your own advice .

Naaaaaaaaaaa my own Jesus commanded me to PREACH as in TALK to people so you're the one who said time will judge i wonder why you're not allowing time to judge instead of coming to quote people!

LilMissFavvy:
I believe you are joking

Perhaps it's some of their holy ghost that's been talking to him so he too can become one of them (a ghost)

sonmvayina:
Only time will judge ..

So keep shut and continue waiting!

sonmvayina:
If I say the new testament is confusing theology that belongs to the bin...

They will say I have come..

The new testament theology is bull shit, there is nothing divine in it. It has got nothing to do with the creator of heaven and earth whose mercy endures forever...

OK nah!

Ken4Christ:
Did you study English in school? If you did, maybe your teacher did not teach you well. One word can mean different things depending on the context it is used.

So the word soul also mean a person or a being. If we say, four souls died in an auto crash, we mean four persons died.

There is also the part of a man that is called a soul that is immortal. This is the soul I am talking about.

This is why the scripture talks about our spirit, soul and body.

In many passages, it separates the soul from the body.

You really have a lot to learn. Just open up your heart.

You can check the dictionary and see the different meaning of soul.

You have failed woefully!
God's word said the soul will die!
So stop deceiving yourself!

If you want to know the difference between body and soul you only need to ask and you will receive! Matthew 7:7

cornelboy:
Questions ken4christ cannot answer;

Revelation 20:14 KJV
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death..

1. Is lake of fire the same as hell fire?
1a. If they are the same, why would hell be cast into the lake of fire (another hell)?

1b. If they are different, why would people first burn in hell, be resurrected, judged and get cast into another form of hell (lake of fire)?

1bi. Why not judge them first before burning them in fire?

Revelation 20:13
[13]And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

2a. Which part of them is burn in hell after death?

2b. Which part of them is resurrected for judgement according to revelation 20:13

2c. Which part would be casted into the lake of fire? Rev 20:14

3. Are Death and hell some being than could feel pain when casted into the lake of fire?

You wicked o!
So you want this boy to get brain tumor shey?

sonmvayina:
I have been liberated from mental slavery..and don't have cult leaders dictate to me what I should believe..

Exactly what all JWs are enjoying too!
We have been liberated from mental slavery and cult leaders!

Gromilla010:
if he has enemy then he shouldn't be referred to as the supreme he is just like the normal mermaid we have in our villages people go and worship.

If they alienated themselves then their are living their predestined life as the supreme God wants them too...so your god is an accomplice

No he created them as demons because if he never did he would have created them devoid of evil... therefore your god is evil.

He gave all fair chances that he had to send people to kill the amalakites he created...I doubt he even created them.

NO fair chance because he has prepared a hell for you.

Your PERSONAL opinion and as for Hell it simply means Grave!

tctrills:
You have not answered, was he teaching them prospective commandments or the laws of his kingdom?

The laws of his kingdom so only few Jews responded while others were asking questions having nothing to do the topic of discussion.

tctrills:
Yes I understand the bible talks about eating milk for the new members but that is not the question. Do you teach your prospective members, the laws of the kingdom of God or something different? I understand you can't teach them everything then but when they become your members, are they to drop what you previously taught and follow new laws?

We PREACH to them the Good News of the kingdom of our King {Matthew 10:7} and when anyone is prepared to work for our King we baptize them and it's time to TEACH them the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of Good News! Matthew 28:19-20

tctrills:
I read every scripture you posted. Please sir address your Covid controversy.

It's the authorities not just anybody that officially declared a lockdown {Romans 13:1-2} so we go extra mile to prove we are ready to comply! Matthew 5:41

TheRealOwner:
Mere men speaking for a being they have neither seen, heard or communicate with
Keep arguing over words written thousands of years ago. That's certainly how to better your lives

Life on this planet keep getting worse everyday it's time to talk about our Creator who can fix it all for us!

Gromilla010:
so your god get enemy?

YES!

So why create those enemy's or allow them to multiply or procreate if he truly hates them?

They alienated themselves He never created them to be His enemies! Deuteronomy 32:5

mumu..he detest demons then why did he create them?

Thanks for the compliment! He never created them as demons they choose to be so.

Why not kill those fallen angels completely when they rebelled against him?

He gives all fair chances perhaps they can find happiness in their rebelliousness but they never did.

If he is all powerful why not kill his enemies and stop them from multiplying and procreating?

Fair chance!