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ANTIlSLAM:
Is like you get comprehensive problem, I said Church can means building and gathering of the Children of God whom you tagged as politicians but you insisted that Church CAN'T means a building. it's just funny as you're now associating yourself with the church you condemned

ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, Can you tell this house the reason why your occultist religion, JWs loves satanic symbols?

ANTIlSLAM:
Even the angel of the church in Laodicea is one of the people abi may God heal you

According to Jesus and Paul CHURCH means people not buildings Sir! Philemon 1:2

If you're arguing with me about what Jesus taught you will continue to give yourself a lot of headache because we be your Papa for scriptural matter!

MrBrownJay1:
you mean the same old convenant that jesus stated:

Luke 16:17
It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.
Matthew 5:18-19
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

you either stand by the words of your prophet or you dont....but dont just take what fits your selfish agenda, like a religious hypocrite!

BTW when you are done learning from the above, check the below about xtians wearing garment of 2 different materials:

Leviticus 19:19
“Observe my statutes.
“You are not to let your cattle breed with a different species.
“You are not to sow your fields with two different kinds of seeds.
“You are not to wear clothing made from two different kinds of material.

Deuteronomy 22:11
“Don’t wear material made from wool and linen mixed together.

Jesus was addressing the Jews regarding the Old Covenant that was supposed to lead them to him {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} but after His last breath that Covenant became obsolete that's why he told the Jews:

"This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits" Matthew 21:43

No Christian is expected to continue with that Covenant or it's laws so when the Christian congregation began operation they sent messages to all Christians throughout the world of their time saying:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

None of those old laws before Christ matters anymore to Christians so Paul wrote a letter to our brothers in Galatia to tell them that we are no longer under those old covenant laws! Galatians 3:23-25

As Christians our laws begins from what Jesus taught his disciples not what the Jews believe before then, and what the Apostles established.

Remember Jesus said whatever they bound or loosen on earth the heavens has granted it {Matthew 16:19} so we are following them not Mosaic laws Sir!

Courz:
Hey Mad MaxInDHouse! A kingdom hall has been sold when you read the link below and watch the video there. Watchtower is losing members everywhere and selling kingdom halls.
Guess who Watchtower sold the Kingdom Hall to? New Age Religion. Same religion that teaches Angel Numbers. Angel Magic. That Watchtower practices. So much for dedicating a kingdom hall to Jehovah.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/wyzl87/kingdom_halls_are_being_sold/
Readers, just Google Watchtower selling Kingdom halls. You will see Kingdom halls in different places being sold. Watchtower's chariot is moving at a fast pace. Praise Jah!

Clown using one moniker to post then using the other to like.

Nah SUPERSTORY from Templee333 we dey here for go and open your own shop!

ANTIlSLAM:
Sebi you see this or your eye is faulty?

In the Bible book of Revelation Jesus was addressing the CHURCHES {Revelations 3:14} not buildings but assemblies of people Sir!

MrBrownJay1:
when you are done with the above, tell me what you understand from the below bible verse:

Leviticus 19:27
“You are not to cut your hair in ritualistic patterns[a] on your head or deface the edges of your beard.

The God of Israel made this rule because men back then were engaging in homosexuality and it's only when a man has no beard that he becomes attractive to his fellowman.

But today Christians know better than those Israelites who never had the privilege of listening to the most wonderful counselor of all time: Jesus Christ of Nazareth! Matthew 11:11

Sorry Sir you're quoting the obsolete laws which comes along with the Old Covenant that's no longer in use today! Jeremiah 31:31-34

Thanks Sir!

ANTIlSLAM:
Shey your eye is faulty as usual nii?
Matthew 16:18
18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, Can you tell this house the reason why your occultist religion, JWs loves satanic symbols?
Oya answer nau

So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up! Ephesians 4:11-12

What makes up the materials used in building the church of Christ?

Apostles
Prophets
Evangelists
Pastors
Teachers

So was Jesus talking about a literal building?

Wilgrea7:
A lot of books talk about the origin of life. Just about every religious book throughout history talked about the supposed origin of life.
If a story cannot be objectively proven, it remains nothing more than a mere story. In your case, a myth.

That's the same way we have fake money and legal tender in circulation but when it comes to multiple TRANSACTIONS the fake money lose its worth while the legal tender remains valid. So if you think all books are equal in worth tell us what those books said about the origin of life and how it correlates with our day to day life!

Wilgrea7:
1. Refer to point above
2. I've told you.. the bible makes a claim to creation. Nothing more. The burden of proof lies on the people making the claim
3. What do you mean by expiration date as stated in the book?

Did your parents made claims that you have great grandparents? Did you meet all of them?
So why do you believe if not that things keeps working out as they told you?

Wilgrea7:
And that is supposed to be proof for what exactly?
Thanks.

That supposed to be a proof that what we read in the Bible is TRUE if only humans are the CREATORS of everything else we see on this planet apart from nature!

One thing most critics of the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses don't know is that while you're trying to say anything about this organization try to focus on what really is unacceptable in any human society because Apostle Paul after mentioning all the qualities found in the FRUIT of the spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} which Jesus said will be only sign honest hearted and sincere individuals will be given to IDENTIFY his true disciples {Matthew 7:16-18} Paul concluded in his comment by saying:

""against this there is no law" Galatians 5:23b

So instead of thinking about what made you leave any religious group focus on what they're practicing that's a menace to the human race in general.

Remember that Jesus said:

"you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’ The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these" Mark 12:30-31

Love for God can't be noticed by everyone but your love for neighbours will show that you really worth living because you will be a blessing in your neighbourhood!

OJODEL10:
What does the bible say about makeup and the use jelweries?
please with biblical reference(s)
Psalm 119-9 How can a young person stay on the path of purity?
By living according to your word.
10 I seek you with all my heart;
do not let me stray from your commands.
11 I have hidden your word in my heart
that I might not sin against you.

After God created this planet He made humans the dominators as we were made in His image {Genesis 1:26-28} we are to SUBDUE this planet by going out to discover all the hidden treasures God put on it and make the best use of these things. Psalms 115:16

So when talking about make-ups it's the things women use to enhance their beauty because they were created as a compliment of man {Genesis 2:18} that's why a man is incomplete without his BEAUTIFUL half by his side! Genesis 2:23-24

The woman knows that she's worthless without the man so she continues to adorn herself with all kinds of beauty products to keep looking gorgeous in the eyes of her man.

As for jewelries it's part of the things God made for the women to enhance their beauty {Genesis 24:22} God Himself used precious stones to describe how His place is in the heavens!

But the woman is not to loose her senses by putting on any of these with the motive of demeaning her rightful owner (husband) because he is her crown. That's where most women are getting it all wrong as they put on pride instead of humbly submitting to their husbands! Titus 2:5

The truth of the matter is that women don't submit to their own gender unless men are involved. Take for instance, when women are alone in one place without a single male they won't think of their looks but once men are around even if the men are just their slaves you will see the women in action as if they have all the beauty.

So there's no sin in either makeup or jewelries holy women of ancient times like Rebecca and Esther put on all this things but they were submissive to their own husbands!

Wilgrea7:
I don't know how else to explain this to you.
Your book makes a claim to creation. A claim, and proof are not the same thing. There's a little bit of evidence needed to move from one to the other.

The evidence is clear!

Do you have any book that talks about the origin of life?

If the Bible says a CREATOR is the cause of life on this planet who made all these creatures and man in His likeness, and everyone can see that despite our expiration date as stated in the book man has continued to CREATE many things on this planet.

What other evidence do you need as you can see man and all his achievements whereas all other creatures have remained the same way no improvement?

Ọmọ ATHEISM is blurring your senses o!

Courz:
Who invited me? Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Did you read the Opening post correctly? Intelligent officer of the whole world. You JWs were never invited. You were warned to stay away and since then you derailed the thread and I decided to use you JWs as Case study. There was a bait. You fell for it and now people can see who you are. Your derailment is kinda like a blessing in disguise because it formed part of the story anyways.

That's why i first show those calling me that the OP said dedicated JWs aren't invited: but due to the persistence and sincerity of zoer i ignored the LYING OP to address those who wants to know the TRUTH and it was indeed a success!

oteneaaron:
I was asking you.
You first used the term "SUPERSTORY" and I am asking what you are trying to insinuate.
What do you - MaxInDHouse mean by referring the experience Templee333 has shared so far as "SUPERSTORY"?

According to that TV Show it's about series Sir and the OP is an Àjàlá travel missionary going from one religion to another:

His experience with Olumba ~

https://www.nairaland.com/7253447/experience-olumba-obu-ooo

His experience with Eckankar ~

https://www.nairaland.com/7267762/experience-eckankar-religion

His experience with Jehovah's Witnesses ~

https://www.nairaland.com/7296359/experience-jehovahs-witnesses-organization

But what really baffles me here is how he didn't start from his first experience because according to him he was born a JW so going by that he supposed to start from the beginning of his Àjàlá travel journey!

So if he's into STORIES of his journey through different religions is the whole thing not a SUPERSTORY?

ANTIlSLAM:
You're only looking for an escaping route. I told you that temple, synagogue and church as used in some some Bible verse means building but the demonic spirit that's tormenting your life won't let you grab that

You're now associating yourself with we the Church goer and politicians you've been condemning from the ages past is that not indecision at its peak ? May Jehovah heal you

ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, Can you tell this house the reason why your occultist religion, JWs loves satanic symbols?

Just one quotation where the word CHURCH is referred to as building ló bá tán!

Maynman:
Theist, how many theos are you worshipping?
How many languages can your theos speak?

Are your kids salvation also dependent on these baldheads?

So in a nutshell all your òrìsàs are speechless shey! Psalms 115:4-8

Ọmọ go and drink something to cool your head!

oteneaaron:
@bolded
Are you in any way trying to insinuate that Templee333 is lying?
Because it is only lies that anyone can refer to as "SUPERSTORY"

Don't worry let followers of this thread listen attentively so they can form an opinion on what the SUPERSTORY is all about!

Courz:
Exhibit. He turned around and pointed fingers after derailing the thread.

I acted on the calling of interested persons:

TenQ:
My legs crossed.
Waiting for MaxIntheHouse , Janosky

zoer:
MaxinDhouse will come for you if only he won't derail the topic

Who invited you Sir?

Maynman:
One Condemned and doomed yaldaboath worshipper.

Your salvation relies on baldheads, can you see how unfortunate you have become?

Will your kids salvation also rely on these baldheads?come on.

Talk about your own god let us hear at least something about your god!

Courz:
Templee333, please continue.

Now you're talking!

Chai even Templee333 is confused now as Mr Courz (oteneaaron) has taken over the whole SUPERSTORY thread!

ANTIlSLAM:
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, Can you tell this house the reason why your occultist religion, JWs loves satanic symbols?

I won't tolerate all this your jakpa tactics

Keep crying in your delusion!

You said Jesus called a building "CHURCH" just to argue blindly shey?

I'm sorry for you!

Wilgrea7:
What's your proof that your God gave man the assignment to invent technology? I need objective proof, not vague and generic bible passages.If your bible passage can point to any specific discovery far before they were invented...
For example, God saying “Oh ye man, build a device that runs on land, with 4 large black wheels, 2 seats in front and 3 at the back, and an engine to propel it" .. that would make sense. But of course, we never see anything like that. Just vague passages that can be interpreted to fit just about every single thing.
Exhibit A
Wow... Just... Wow

The book said God created man in His own image and gave him the assignment to subdue the planet!

According to the book God created so many things that's working till today so if He made in His own image and assigned him to discover the earth you don't know that He's indirectly telling them "you are gods so go on making things with what you have discovered on your planet home" Psalms 115:16
Well to grasp certain things you need the uncommon sense not just the common Sir!

Two delusional goats!

One without any god the other claiming he knows Christ both looking for someone to agree with them as one when they're both facing opposite directions.

Is this not insanity?

ANTIlSLAM:
YES! YES!! YES!!!

Matthew 16:18

18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.



I'm here to impact knowledge on you
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO.


Bobo, this question need your attention. Can you tell this house the reason why your occultist religion, JWs loves satanic symbols?

Na wah o!
So you kukuma committ suicide shey?

I'm sorry for you!

Courz:
Readers, he says I am derailing the thread. You can see he knows not what to say. Let's take a recap on the events since this thread started.

Templee333 said JWs, stay away from this thread or else your weak faith in your Cult will vanish! What then happened? A JW showed up. Him.

Templee333 starts his story. I joined in because I also have similar experience and have been adding more which has benefited readers so far. The thread is getting interesting. Op is still posting his story. Some questions were asked and we were answering. What happened?

JWs showed up again. The thread was derailed. What did I do? I said okay just so that there are not many pages of wasted words without purpose, I decided that the derailment becomes something beneficial for readers by providing you analysis of how JWs reason which is still part of the story. Since then, JWs have derailed.

Now, here he is asking for the Op to proceed. But he started the derailment. Readers, are you getting me now?

Thanks Mad MaxInDHouse!

A soul has turned back from following your lies due to our intervention!
This was what this guy said when he first sighted this thread:

zoer:
MaxinDhouse will come for you if only he won't derail the topic

But after few discussion he asked:

zoer:
Is there a better replacement for JW?

Of course there is no better performing group so he has learned something on this thread!

JWs is that mountain spoken of in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3 Jesus emphasized on this group when he said:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain" Matthew 5:14

So it's left to him to decide what he's going to do with what he has seen on this thread whether he will allow your stories to wash away {Matthew 13:3-9} that one million dollars question from his heart or continue in his quest just like the Samaritan woman who asked Jesus:

“Sir, I see that you are a prophet. Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain, but you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where people must worship" John 4:19-20

You often refer to me as "boy" but do you notice the correlation between how that lady in the Bible began addressing Jesus after knowing his worth?

Well that man (i don't know his age) began addressing me respectfully as "SIr"

So just as Jesus said the gates of hades can't stop God's prospective sheep, they will be found no matter what you do!

MindHacker9009:
Who makes the decisions you follow in your organisation, you or someone else? As it is someone else that makes the decisions for you to follow and type here then you are not using your thought process. The founder of your organisation at just 20 used his own thought process when he drifted into skepticism from what he had been taught in his former organization, but you just accept and type all that someone else tells you without using your own thought process.

Nobody was born with any knowledge Sir we learn from seeing and hearing, and it's out of what we have seen and heard that we form our own personal opinion about God.

So if we want to talk about God (Supreme Being) then we need to consider the worshipers because something must bring them together and that's the information gotten through sight and hearing.
There's no real God without worshipers the matter of founders of a religion comes to question if the religion is not meeting up with the requirements stated in the world's most popular book (Bible) in this book the God who claims to be it's Author said:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4

So if any group of humans could form an organization through gathering people from all the nations of the world to achieve the above then it couldn't have been any human that did such a wonderful job but the true God Himself who spoke about this event.

This i processed with my own brain!

truthmans2012:
When it comes to religion, believers can die for what they believe in.

Jesus believed in salvation of man through him, and would not go back even in the face of death. His disciples died for what they believed in. What am saying is that in a matter of religion, people are ready to die for the course of their belief. The difference is that the Christians are ready to die for their belief, but the Muslims are ready to kill for their belief.

The Bible says " faith comes by hearing ". What you hear or read has a great influence on your life. Christian and Muslim faith are completely determined by what they hear, read or taught.

But how would an adherent read or taught these and not become a terrorist?

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

How would you claim Islam is a religion of peace, when the Quran recommends fighting? If Muhammad had been going around with a message of peace, there would have been no need for fighting. Nobody would initiate a fight against a man of peace.

How is fighting good for anybody? No wonder the Quran said " but you dislike it" Don't tell me the fighting is in self-defence, nobody would dislike
fighting to defend himself. But the people disliked fighting because there was no need for it. It is expected that a normal human-being would dislike fighting, especially if it is not to defend himself but there are people whose reasoning is faulty, instead of disliking fighting, they like it. If humans are sensible enough to dislike fighting, how would God encourage it if not to turn the whole world upside down.

Quran (9:41) Pickthall translation
"Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."
But the muslims say "jihad" is not war but struggling " Do you use weapons to struggle?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
How do you expect peaceful co-existence with non-Muslims with this verse? This is the reason I believe the world will continue to see terrorism as long as the quran remains in existence.

NO you're wrong Sir!

Politics is the root cause of terrorism not any religion. From the beginning the first terrorist attack that claimed the life of a man on this planet took place shortly after Adam and Eve were driven out of the garden of Eden.

Eve gave birth to a son and thought it's this child that will destroy Satan who deceived her {Genesis 3:15} so she named this child Cain the thought in her heart was revealed {Genesis 4:1} so when both her first and second son offered sacrifices to the God who has stopped talking to both Adam and Eve and It was Abel's worship that God approved Cain became troubled.
WHY?
If God has condemned their parents then salvation must come through their children but now that God approves Abel's worship Cain reasoned that it simply means Abel will become the promised RULER as prophesied {Genesis 3:15} so he killed Abel!

Lesson learned: Cain didn't kill Abel simply because of worship NO rather he did so to prevent Abel from becoming the promised RULER.

So ever since then terrorism has continued to exist on this planet due to POLITICS as one nation wages war against another to gain power over them. Even if we were not alive during the first and second world wars we can see today that Russia and Ukraine aren't fighting because of RELIGION rather it's due to POLITICS.

Politicians use all forms of tools to gain control:
Money, Eloquence, Beauty, Weapons, Threats, Intimidation and lastly religion because with religion they can get cheap soldiers to fight for them after brainwashing them making them think they're fighting for God.

Sadly the founder of Islam wasn't inspired so he couldn't figure out that politics is the devil's tool to rule over the world {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so he encouraged his followers to fight in support of their nations unknowingly to him that there can't be LOVE and PEACE among his followers if racism is allowed in their midst! John 13:34-35 compare to Matthew 12:46-50

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


cannot stop lying lost false jw mad max

the all knowing and all powerful JEHOVAH is my God
Jesus the man/flesh is the Son of Father God, gee you dum, aren't you

and such a liar, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

O
It's OK oya ask your friend Maynman to talk about his own god after all you've been talking about your own!

ANTIlSLAM:
According to your colonial masters in USA, is your occultist hall a Church?
Jesus Christ went into the temple (the building) of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple

Chai see confusion o!

Just a YES or NO:

Jesus spoke about CHURCH in the Bible book of Revelation not TEMPLE.

No sane individual calls a gathering of people "Temple" because according to the Bible a temple means a building.

So did Jesus agree with you that CHURCH is a building?

Just a YES or NO will do Sir!

Courz:
Check out his opening. It is a song. When this particular JW is facing a fact I am showing him, he starts singing as a response. One time we were replying ourselves. When he didn't know what to say, he started singing, Ooh La La La, Let's go dancing. Another time, I asked him a question based on what Watchtower said, he started singing Kizz Daniel Buga song.

Readers, are you getting me now? Can you see how the JWs have proved me and Templee333 right by their responses? I hope you learnt something.

Thanks Mad MaxInDHouse.

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni you're DERAILING this thread, please let the followers hear more stories from the OP!

Maynman:
Tell us about your baldheads that your salvation depends on watchtower.
Without them you are doomed, even Jesus Christ or is angel michael can’t save you.

Talk about your own god!

Abi you no get your own god?
Please don't tell me your god is speechless o! Psalms 115:4-8

MindHacker9009:
If you can use your own thought process you'll know that there is nowhere in the Bible where it is written that GOD has an organization. Organizations are man made and you base all thought process on a man made organization

From what is stored in my own brains i grasped that the title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and for anyone or spirit to be a real God there must be an ORGANIZED people worshiping such a deity, they will have the same line of thought after agreeing on the type of God they're worshiping. John 17:22
So the word ORGANIZATION is appropriate for an organized people from different races that has come together to worship one God! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

ANTIlSLAM:
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, this is another definition of Church from Macmillan dictionary

According to Jesus of Nazareth is church a building?