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Christianity Etc › Re: It's OK To Question Your Beliefs by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:29pm On Jun 20, 2022
Maynmann:
You didn’t understand enough. There’s no truth in a Yahweh worshipper, talk less of Jehovah worshipper, yaldaboath.

YES!
it has stopped people from eating certain foods and drinking certain water.
Food and water is good, but some foods and water are also bad for the health. If they don’t ask questions how will they know?
Common sense nowhuh
What’s regarded edible 1st century, has undergo investigations in 21st century and it is no longer consider edible.
Some FOOD leads to pimples, if you are allergic to that food will you eat it even though it’s “food”
Your last question simplified everything:

So if i'm not allergic to what i consume do you think it's compulsory i change it?

The answer is NO! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: It's OK To Question Your Beliefs by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:14pm On Jun 20, 2022
Maynmann:
That’s because you are not reading.
Asking questions leds to further benefits and not just stagnant like we live in 1st century.
I perfectly understood what you're saying it's you that's trying to dodge the truth.

Has the questions stopped people from eating, drinking, breathing, putting on clothes or mating?

NO!

People only look for better ways of doing things and whenever they find better options they switch over. Religion is part of human life right from time immemorial so have you found a better way to worship the Creator?
If you have found a better way please present it so we may look critically into it, in the absence of that you don't have any point! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: It's OK To Question Your Beliefs by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:08pm On Jun 20, 2022
Maynmann:
The question has stop people from eating wrongly, now they know what calories they should eat, people that are allergic to some foods will avoid it, foods that leads to Cancer they avoid it, food that athletes should eat and not Of course it has led to even more questions, what’s consider good in the 1st century, is not consifer good now in 21st century.
Think
Food makes life food sweet for fat people but it will later lead to obesity and related diseases.
Ọmọ you're still buttressing my point! cheesy

Humans have become selective in so many things they does carelessly in times past and that's exactly what some have done regarding religion, they have questioned their worthless religion and switch over to a better performing group.
So since people still eat food, drink water, put on clothes and mate with the opposite sex there's no reason to stop religion completely!

Thanks for buttressing my point! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: It's OK To Question Your Beliefs by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:52pm On Jun 20, 2022
Maynmann:
Not all food benefits
Not all water benefits
Some oxygen have been polluted.
Not all clothes honors one dignity.
Mating with opposite sex can you give untreatable disease.
If we don’t question a thing, we would still be living in archaic age.


And we don’t bring breathe in just “oxygen”
We breathe in Air which oxygen is just a part of it.
It’s because they asked questions we were able to know this.
Has the questions stop people from eating, drinking, breathing, putting on clothes or mating?
You just buttress my point!
Questioning become necessary when things aren't working out BENEFITS. From time immemorial mankind haven't find a permanent substitute for food, water, air, clothing and mating.
So nobody says your questioning is bad but you can't tell people to stop doing what makes life sweet simply because you're still probing it you can only compel people to switch over to a better option! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:43pm On Jun 20, 2022
bobestman:
You are right some how. But this is not time to pet people. You tell them what you know and leave them to what they believe. If you know me very well I don't have time to argue much with people. Whenever I come here and like any thread, I say what I have to say and if people mention me, we might argue a little and I will later leave. I dont belong to any religion to force ppl to follow me into. I teach ppl to discover God for themselves and serve him in truth and spirit not in Churches or religion. What God demands is secret worship not public cos he is a secret entitiy(spirit). This is why the Messiah told ppl to go into their houses and shut their doors when they pray.
Your own way of doing things and i said we are on the same page because after i've delivered my message there's no reason forcing my opinion on anyone i take my leave but i strongly believe in oneness in thought and that can only be possible when there is agreement in religion. So if you believe God doesn't have any religion that's your PERSONAL opinion i'm a strong advocate of the organization with one line of thought! John 17:22 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: It's OK To Question Your Beliefs by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:25pm On Jun 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Questioning comes to mind only when things aren't working fine, but when things are going according to order there's no tangible reason to question what you have! smiley
No sane human questions what is working out BENEFITS to the best of our reasoning so it's only when things aren't working out BENEFITS that we need to question it's source.
We breathe in oxygen, drink water, eat food, mate with the opposite sex, put on clothes and so many other things. No sane human questions any of these things because it's orderly and working out great BENEFITS.
So when is questioning necessary?
Surely it's when things aren't working fine! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:19pm On Jun 20, 2022
bobestman:
It's a free world. As many of you come here and share what you know about your various religions or try to fight for them, me that don't do religion also let you know that many things in your religions are not the truth. Even God the creator gave you non. You follow whatever religion you see your parents follow. There are many religion but the truth lies within and need no religion to manifest itself. All religions know truth in parts but the errors therin is huge.
You are free to follow whichever religion you want. Am not against God, his Son or Word. All these existed but the thieves came why you all slept and added their words which has led to a great delusion many don't know. I do my part to let you all know what is hidden from you and go my way. Whatever one chooses to believe is not my concern. What will happen will happen
What you think is wrong is what you're seeing while each person sticks to what they think is right, so if you're not against God all you can do is point out what you think is wrong and let each person use their own judgement to figure out what they will do.

Ọmọ somehow you and i are on the same page! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: It's OK To Question Your Beliefs by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:07pm On Jun 20, 2022
sonmvayina:
Lol...mumu you..
Are you are robot?
Many people don't have hands but you have, why don't you cut it off since others don't have? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: It's OK To Question Your Beliefs by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:57pm On Jun 20, 2022
Questioning comes to mind only when things aren't working fine, but when things are going according to order there's no tangible reason to question what you have! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:52pm On Jun 20, 2022
bobestman:
All Religions are Cultists. They bind you with yokes that are difficult for you to break. They are companies and organisations that give you rules for you to follow to be a part of them

A certain of them will tell you that they are the only ones doing what their Jesus said and the others are all liars.
Another will say don't watch TVs, palm your heads, wear troussers and ear rings
Another will say kill them if they accuse your prophet

Who taught all of you all these? All these are what the Messiah call traditions of men. Neither the Father nor the son gave any of you religions. They gave you a way and their word. If you meditate on that word daily as written it will illuminate your spirit man, you will hear from your creator, you will have a father and son relationship with Him. You need no one to tell you this is the way, come to my church or do this way...he will lead you from withing. That's how it was in the first age and even today but many have lost that touch cos they keep depending on religions and their mogs.

All your Religion are Cults. Connect to your creator from within. Your body is the temple of God
Thank you jàre, but do you think people have the right to choose whatever they want no matter how foolish it may sound to you? 1Corinthians 2:14 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:42am On Jun 20, 2022
bobestman:
JWs are confirmed Cultists and Racists. Same with all your Religions. You all are in great delusion but will never accept untill the time to expose all your religions.
At times i laugh really hard when one religion is pointing accusing finger towards another calling it a CULT.
But if i may as please what evil exactly are these so called "CULTS" causing in the society? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07am On Jun 20, 2022
immaculatesense:
Dear MaxinDHouse
I understand every single passage of every scriptures...even the ones that were not cannonized I dedicate my self to reading them to know why they were not and to learn from it...I discovered the distortion in some of them and I learn also from those part of them that were not distorted...I learn without interference or premeditated knowledge or bais...I know the scriptures through and through (all praises to God) because I was objective in my learning...I compare scriptures with scriptures like the berean church...I do not do Dem say Dem say...I do my research...u mistake the Omoluabi because u didn't research but maybe a brother or elder used it as an analogy and u bought into it just like dat but it seems to appeal to a believe or make sense...but its a LIE...now u know...but unfortunately the same goes for many things u av believe because u heard it from a person or people u respect and think they can't be wrong...u made no or little research with a mind of acceptance already...

You know I always advice u cos I was once like u but in a Pentecostal (still in Pentecostal though but no denomination shapens my knowledge)...but u av potentials but like I always tell u...u restricting urself to a confinement...
Good luck in the process of realizing and rediscovering urself and potentials just like I did some years back...u will be at peace with God and new true knowledge u found in his word and spirit alone...
Note,I am not a trinitarian but I am a Pentecostal...what an irony ehn...that's wat I mean by not being denominationally bais but be objective in learning the truth even if it negate wat u av accepted or ur sect before...
Peace
No wahala, keep whatever you think you know! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23am On Jun 20, 2022
udoh2k:
This instruction of Paul to Timothy was a "medical advice". It was not a call to drunkenness or consumation of strong drink. Even some present day medicines contain some kind of alcohol ,perhaps responsible for diziness. It's purely medicinal when precribed...outside that...it is drug abuse, self medication.
As long as each person wants to choose what he likes there will always be confusion in the Christendom churches. Luke 11:23

There is no where God forbid alcoholic drinks for all His worshipers rather He only warn us not to overdo it. Some may argue that since God warned us not to get drunk it's better to avoid drinking completely, this advice is good but it should be left to each individual to decide not a collective thing.
The secret behind this is due to IDOLATRY, the demons disguising as angels of light do differ in their likes and dislikes and the only way to IDENTIFY each demon is the rules they set for all it's worshipers collectively.
Jesus of Nazareth taught his disciples that if an eye (something so precious) should stand as obstacle to you cut it out, Jesus went on to say the same with limb! Mark 9:43-47

If misconstrued it may happen that half of our body parts will be removed so what did Jesus mean with this statement?

Each of us has one weakness or another that we need to work on in order to maintain our focus on God's Kingdom so each person has to figure out where he needs to work on.
What really baffles me is that most people just conclude without carefully meditating on what Jesus meant. Jesus said some of his disciples will not marry so that they can focus more on God's Kingdom {Matt 19:10-12} notice that his followers suggested that marriage should be cancelled but Jesus said it's optional not compulsory.
So where did God forbid alcoholic drinks?
Jesus himself eat all kinds of food and drinks whatever he's served that's why critics could say he's a glutton (eats too much) and drunkard (drinks anything drinkable) {Luke 7:31-34} but it's their own rules they want Jesus to obey not God's law because God told his worshipers to drink whatever they like including alcoholic drinks! Deuteronomy 14:26

Thanks!
Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does It Take To Receive The Holyspirit After Salvation? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:05am On Jun 20, 2022
God is a spirit! John 4:24
There are different spirits {1Corin 8:5} and the evidence to know this is the activities of Worshipers, each spirit have what it takes to be a bonafide member of it's group of worshipers.
So before you can be certain that you're with the right spirit you need to know what is expected of those worshiping the spirit you're targeting.
When Jesus said what you're quoting today his disciples already knew that their God has earlier promised something of that nature! Joel 2:28-30
So by the time honest hearted and sincere Jews in Jerusalem that once told Pontius Pilate to kill Jesus of Nazareth {Matt 27:25} later witnessed what their God promised among Jesus' disciples they felt really bitter and regretted all what they did to Jesus of Nazareth. Act 2:37

So if you're interested in becoming a true Christian you need to know what true Christianity must produce {Matt 7:16-18} otherwise you may end up dealing with deceptive spirits thinking you're with Jesus! Matt 7:21-23

May you have PEACE!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:45am On Jun 20, 2022
Janosky:
"Beside God" is very correct.
Bosom connotes closeness. For instance, bosom friend.
Is your bosom friend living inside you?
Luke 16:22-23,is Lazarus living inside Abraham?
Una want to change holy scripture to suit Trinity GIBBERISH.
Wrong !
Correct rendition of Phil 2:6
Although he (Jesus) was in the form of God"
-Bill Mounce Greek interlinear Bible.

"The word was with the God" at his Father's side,not living inside the God.
Your Bible says "the Word" referencing a Being, hence the use of definite article "the" attached to "Word" as in the Word,a person.
John 17:17 (God's command, instructions etc.& John 1:1, the word, a person,entity. pls note the difference.
Is Jesus Christ at Deuteronomy 6:6-8?
No.
No.
John 10:33,1 Corinthians 8:4-5,Acts 12:22-23, John 1:1,Acts 28:6,(in screenshots) several scriptures evidences PROVEN the correct rendition of John 1:1 must follow.
Faulty claim based on inaccurate translation of Phillippian 2:6.
Oga, this comment doesn't stand up to scrutiny from the holy scripture.
Shalom.
He's one of those give and take churchy type that always want to exchange what they think they know with what others know, even when he can see clearly that you know much better all he's saying is "let's agree that we can worship anywhere we like and we continue as fellow believers even when our thoughts don't agree"

For now he's trying to prove to himself that i'm wrong since i told him frankly that if he's not with the same organization we're not on the same page!

Me i don't have any time to waste arguing with him, if he's not ready to learn let him look for his type where they will continue to make exchange with what their pastors taught them! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahushuah Is The First Creature And The Person From Whom All Things Was Created. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:18am On Jun 20, 2022
Mikee19:
You've come face to face with what it means to be a jw. U r either part of them or u burn at armageddon cheesy
Armageddon is a spiritual war against atheists so it's not physical, the atheists may die just as Egyptians/Assyrians died overnight {Exodus 12:30; 2Kings 19:35} or through other means but one thing is certain their destruction will not affect other earthly things like trees and animals! Genesis 8:21-22

Only faithful members of JWs will be spared all others are atheists from the viewpoint of our own God! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:10pm On Jun 19, 2022
immaculatesense:
Lol...u need to change everything about u...u first need to unlearn the heresies and start learning...
U goofed in all ur three points and I will point them out to u...
1)you mentioned Giants for symbol of the sons of the angels(u wrongly infer as sons of God)...if the Giants were sons of sons of God like u said...and u said they av bn wiped off by the flood and even the sand they use to recreate themselves was wiped of like u claim...here is the question...
Who were the giant sons of Emites and Anakites...Read Deuteronomy 2:10
[10](A race of giants called the Emites had once lived in the area of Ar. They were as strong and numerous and tall as the Anakites, another race of giants.

Did the angels remould themselves again after they av bn chained and their element wiped off like u said...did they come back to give birth to these new set of rare gaints or is it another set of angel who fell again after those ones? Think and answer

2) This ur number two and three reply ehn...u no dey fear God?...chai...so,Noah was selective in his preaching according to u and still those ones he selected did not hear? Nawa for u ooo

3) Lol...I can't just laughing...u brought my language Yoruba into this again?...Omoluabi is Omo ti Noah bi (children Noah gave birth to) according to u...Jesus...was Noah Oduduwa or was Noah in the story line of the Yoruboid creation myth?...Jesus...u no dey fear...I am Yoruba...see what Omoluabi means...Jesus Christ...ahhh... MaxinDHouse...Jesu
Ọmọ you refused to learn so keep whatever you think you know i've given you more than enough.
You don't believe the Bible you will know that all humans came from the same bloodline through Noah's generation.
Well giants were born to other humans but those during Noah's time aren't humans 100% so my guy keep what you think you know! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27pm On Jun 19, 2022
udoh2k:
I don't know what's your meaning of trinity.

But I have seen in the Bible where:

The Word of God is called God. Capital G.
The Spirit of God is called God. Capital G.
And God Himself is called God. Capital G.

And yet only one God.

Meaning the Word of His mouth is a living 'Being'.

The Spirit in Him is a living 'Being'.

See 1John5:7
By their FRUITS you will know them! Matthew 7:16

What's the fruit of TRINITY worship in the human society? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25pm On Jun 19, 2022
immaculatesense:
(1) Why was Noah and his family spared?

(2)Didn't he also carry the blood of those demons?

(3)If he does,are we not all carry their blood?
Guy i've told you that you and i aren't on the same page so if you have any question just go ahead and ask, if not hold onto whatever you want i'm not a worshiper of your God.

Your three questions:

(1) Noah and his family didn't become violent like other humans.
Due to the way the giant sons of angels were causing trouble everywhere most people also became violent to combat the violent giants but instead of joining them Noah became a preacher {2Peter 2:5} so God looked down from heaven and Noah and his family were approved for salvation!

(2) No the giants were born by fallen angels but there were male humans too like Noah married with their own children they're the ones Noah preached to not the fallen angels or their violent giant children!

(3) He was 100% human that's why all his descendants were humans.
Let me give you a gist:
Have you heard of Ọmọlúàbí before?
Well the Yorùbá people learned from history that after the destruction of evil people only Lúà (Noah) and his descendants were virtuous that's why they always refer to virtuous people as "Ọmọ tí Lúà bí"

Just calm down and learn! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:57pm On Jun 19, 2022
jafaru196:
you are half wrong,Jesus did not beg God the father,he is the one who sent him.the God heads work in unison,one cannot say another thing .
Argue with what the Bible says i'm through with you! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49pm On Jun 19, 2022
udoh2k:
Of course the Word of God is God. His Spirit is God. Both his Word and His Spirit can operate seperately, but same God. That's why he is God...it goes beyond natural understanding.
Trinitarian delusion at work! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Creates People? Jesus Or The Father by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47pm On Jun 19, 2022
Hope2014:
I am curious.any bible scholar
God created Jesus alone that's why he is called the only begotten Son of God {John 3:16} afterwards God empowered Jesus to create all other things {Colossians 1:15-16} as a spirit person who is used to the spirit realms Jesus had no problem is the spirit realms but when it comes to the creation of EARTH Jesus needs 100% guidance from his father that's why the Bible book of Genesis related how life got here step by step:

First of all Jesus created the earth but what he created wasn't perfect {Genesis 1:2} so God supported him by using His Holy Spirit to guide His Son then orders were coming from God:

And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light. Genesis 2:3

First there must be a constant supply of physical light to work on the project of creating the earth.

After that God saw that the light was good, and God began to divide the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day. Genesis 1:4-5

God inspected it and named both light and darkness separately.

Some may argue that God was just talking and everything was falling into place but for you to know that someone was acting on God's orders the Bible says:

Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth. Genesis 1:26

Now from this verse it's evident that God was ordering a Master craftsman who was acting on God's orders! Proverbs 8:30

That's the same person who came to the earth as Jesus of Nazareth no wonder Paul under inspiration could say about Jesus:

He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn (first creature) of all creation! Colossians 1:15

May you have PEACE! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: IS This True. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:25pm On Jun 19, 2022
Hope2014:
Sure. But you and DTruthSpeaker accept it is the grace of God that saves
I'm not on the same page with him please deal with us separately!
The undeserved kindness (grace) of God simply means all Adam's descendants are doomed {Psalms 49:6-9} and there's no way out of the condition Adam put us {Romans 5:12} but out His infinite mercy God decided to extend His loyal love to Adam's descendants (children of the rebel) that's what GRACE or UNDERSERVED KINDNESS means! Romans 5:8 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yahushua The Messiah Can't Be Michael The Arch Angel. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:19pm On Jun 19, 2022
Jokerman:
Read what you wrote.
You better repent over your claims of calling the Lord Jesus an angel. OK.
Guy Jesus was formerly an angel in heaven before coming to the earth if you disagree no wahala go and preach what you know to whoever is willing to learn from you! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16pm On Jun 19, 2022
baajetu:
so the son is more merciful than the father ?
NO he learned from his father {John 14:31} but after the rebellion in the garden of Eden it's the son who pleaded in our behalf because humans are the most precious to Jesus after God used him to create all other things! Proverbs 8:22-31 compare to John 1:1

That's why God vowed in His anger that His wrath will be upon whoever ignore or disobey Jesus of Nazareth! John 3:16-18

May you have PEACE! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08pm On Jun 19, 2022
immaculatesense:
Lol...u didn't answer all the fact questions I presented...do angel reproduce? Do the devil still available access to the throne of God?
See the etymology of the Hebrew word "sons of God on Wikipedia...the oldest believe from the earliest Hebrew historians who said they are righteous people rather than angel before the later ones that started the debate it to be angels rather than righteous people...

Even in Judaism that predate Christianity interpretes sons of God as righteous people of God
See
Guy i've told you that i'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we don't do all those stuffs of yours where you give what you have and take from your fellow Churchgoers.
We PREACH and TEACH those who are willing to learn so if you're not ready to learn we will take our leave and you can continue exchanging your stuff with your fellow Churchgoers!

Before Noah's time angels don't know humans are enjoying something they (angels) can enjoy that's why Satan went to heaven and told them to look into what is called SEX. They were moved so they abandoned their abode {Jude 6} and came down to make use of the dust of the ground which God used to form Adam. They formed beautiful bodies that's irresistible for female humans and since they're highly intelligent with the ability to earn whatever it takes to pay ladies all were running after them. Genesis 6:2

For your information that's how Satan dragged one third of the angels in heaven to join him in rebelling against God {Revelations 12:4} and most people do wonder why God had to use flood to destroy Noah's generation? Well it's because God doesn't want the angels to make further use of the original soil He use to form Adam anymore so the flood washed them away and that's why we have deserts on the planet otherwise the whole earth supposed to be habitable for humans with green vegetations everywhere! Genesis 1:27-28

That's the origin of demons God never created any angel to become a demon they left their proper dwelling places during Noah's time and God disowned them! 1Peter 3:19-20

So when the true God said there's no God anywhere else apart from Him {Exodus 20:2-3} it's because all other nations were worshiping demons there's no God beside the Holy One of Israel. That's why He sent Moses and said "i have made you God" because before the messenger of the true God all those demons will become powerless! Exodus 8:18-19

I hope you have learned a lot but if you're still anticipating the usual give and take stuff with your fellow Churchgoers abeg count me out.

Iron do sharpen iron {Proverbs 27:17} it's only applicable in the gathering of the worshipers of my own God so if you're not with us there's practically nothing sacred we can learn from you! 2Corinthians 6:14

May you have PEACE! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: IS This True. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28pm On Jun 19, 2022
Hope2014:
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Romans 9:15‭-‬21 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/rom.9.15-21.KJV
God only allows those who choose to be evil so that others coming behind them may learn from what happened to them afterwards! 1Corinthians 10:11

If God has predestined everything can people learn from the mistakes of others? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:43pm On Jun 19, 2022
Joshuam1:
Well the writer was John the beloved a disciple of Christ. Then you can't understand John 1:1-2
Sebi you understand, shey? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:40pm On Jun 19, 2022
immaculatesense:
Dear MaxinDHouse
Another misinterpretation of the Genesis and Job's "sons of God"...they don't mean angels...
I don't really av time now but a quick one...
According to Genesis...if the sons of God are angels does that mean they were men with genital who has semen and can reproduce?...are there female angels and is there continuous reproductive activities going on in heaven?..that will negate Jesus statement in Matthew 22:29-30
[29]Jesus replied, “Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God.
[30]For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven.

And in Job's sons of God cannot also mean the angels because the Bible made us to know that the devil came amongst them...does that mean that even after many years of the fall of the devil up to the time of Job...the devil still available access to the throne of God?...
That will be against Revelation 12:8-9
[8]And the dragon lost the battle, and he and his angels were forced out of heaven.
[9]This great dragon—the ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, the one deceiving the whole world—was thrown down to the earth with all his angels.

The sons of God was a term used to qualify the righteous group people at the time.

Genesis sons of God was for the family of Seth before they mingled with the daughters of Cain because of the civilization and beauty at the time...

Job's sons of God was for the likes of Job and his friends amongst others who always offer sacrifices before God always...but at a point in time while the devil was moving to and fro on the earth...he came to encounter these set of people who are righteous...that was wen the Lord was now boasting of particularly Job whose righteousness weighs beyond others..

Even Adam was referred to as son of God in Luke 3:38
[38]Kenan was the son of Enosh.Enosh was the son of Seth.Seth was the son of Adam.Adam was the son of God.

So...this sons of God and angel kinda tin is not it at all...
Guy you just like stories!

Angels are the sons of God only born again Christians later became "Sons of God" {John :11-12} because they will also become like angels in heaven! Matthew 22:30

@ Genesis 6 angels came down materialised bodies for themselves and started mating with female humans. Daughters of men belongs to humans for marriage but angels aren't supposed to mate with humans that's why the ladies bear unusual babies (giants) for them.

So calm down and learn, humans are supposed to marry humans there's nothing strange if humans marry humans but it's due to the fact that the ones talked about there aren't humans that's why the Bible says "the sons of God married the daughters of men" smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: IS This True. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:23pm On Jun 19, 2022
Hope2014:
Psalm 58:3-4"The wicked are estranged from the womb:
they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Their poison is like the poison of a serpent:
they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;"
It seems Lucifer was created to be Satan. It was not his choice to be Satan but according to creator.
God never created anyone to be evil but those who choose to be evil always do so right from their infancy. All the children born to humans have the freewill but the evil ones don't care about righteousness even when their attitude affects them badly (though they don't care how it affects others) yet no matter the consequences of their deeds all they just feel like doing is get away with their evil deeds and continue some other time.
That's why Jesus called such people children of the devil {John 8:44} they behave the same way like Satan.
The most high God has the right to do whatever He wants but can you believe that even with His mightiness God do have a rethink whenever He is CORRECTED?

Take for instance God Almighty sent angels to go and destroy Sodom and Gomorrah but at the words of Abraham (God's friend) He (God) succumb to Abraham's advice! Genesis 18:16-33

Again God got so annoyed that He decided to destroy the Israelites and make Moses and his yet unborn generations His own people.
Moses reminded God what He promised Abraham and His name which means "He causes to become" Moses told God "if you angrily destroy these people and failed to take them to the promise land, what happens to your name?"
Instantly God Almighty REGRETTED His action and changed His mind on the matter. Exodus 32:7-14

But Satan and people like him will never regret their evil deeds so it's what they willingly chose not God's fault Sir! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:08pm On Jun 19, 2022
Joshuam1:
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Not part of the scriptures but presumptuously added by trinitarians in their translation! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:06pm On Jun 19, 2022
immaculatesense:
Dear MaxinDHouse
I just saw this now...let me ask u
Is it ALL angels dat do see God
Yes or No answer
YES! All spirit sons of God do behold His face but some are constantly standing right before him always! Luke 1:19 smiley

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