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Jokerman:
Are demons not working with Lucifer??
Wait, why are they called devils or Satan? Did God created them to be Satan or devils or demons? Are they not all fallen angels?

All of them were formerly loyal spirit sons of God but they allowed themselves to be lured into committing sin! 2Peter 2:4

And after God has disengaged them from the duties they had in heaven they must become submissive to the angel who has already gained access to the planet through the rebellion of Adam.

So they all had equal rights back in heaven but on earth Satan who is the ruler on planet earth is their ruler!

Jokerman:
Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Now see the chapter 👇

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Now..

1. Are the man child and Michael the same?

So the child will remain a child forever shey?

Jokerman:
You said Jesus Christ had only authority after he resurrected, but when he was Michael he had no such authority... And I gave you a scripture that Jesus had the Authority even before he was resurrected.
See Archangel Michael is the angel in charge of War. There is also archangel Gabriel,Uriel, Raphael... The El in these names mean God.

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

The Archangel Michael had authority before coming to the earth but the power for him to bound other angels hasn't been given to him until his successfully earthly mission so he can only scare them away as they already know how great he is back in heaven!

God never declared any other loyal angel's name apart from Michael and Gabriel your Uriel and Raphael are demons found in magic books not in the Bible!

Janosky:
Thanks for this question.
1. Because Jehovah God works with timeline to fulfill his purpose, Ecclesiastes 3:1,8. Revelation 12:7-9.

2. Also, because Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
The answer is in your Bible.
Psalms 110:1 "Jehovah said to my Lord (Jesus):
Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a stool for your feet".

Peter @ Acts 2:32-36, revealed that the prophecy of Psalms 110:1 was fulfilled after was raised from death to life in heaven.

Ephesians 1:20-22, at the appointed time,God his Father gave the Order for Jesus/ Michael the archangel leading other angels in battle to "make his enemies a stool for his feet" chasing them out of heaven.

1 John 3:8 "for this purpose Jesus Christ (as archangel Michael) was made manifest (in Revelation 12:7-9) to destroy the works of the devil".

To fulfill the first prophecy of the holy scriptures: Genesis 3:15= Revelation 12:7-9,1 John 3:8.

He is really disturbed!

His trinity doctrine is been dragged in the mud right in his eyes so he had to come back after declaring he wants to drop his farewell address!

Jokerman:
The same Jesus that was healing the sick, casting out devils or gave his disciples power to cast out devils or the same Jesus that shut up the raging waves or Jesus that dried up the fig tree??

Jesus was hiding and running from his enemies 🤣🤣🤣... JW man,please tell God to open your eyes with the help of the holy ghost to understand the things of God... Please

Ọmọ he was hiding from those who wanted to kill him:

So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus HID and went out of the temple. John 8:59

But after his resurrection he attacked Saul from the sky! Act 9:3-4

So why didn't he do the same to those who were trying to kill him?

Jokerman:
So why did Jesus give authority to us believers before he was resurrected?

That's the authority all faithful servants of God have as long as they're doing God's work they have the right to send away demons who are trying to disturb them.
Note that demons have no right on planet earth it was sin that granted them access to this planet otherwise Satan and his demons has no right to dispossess humans of their sanity. So servants of God has the right to send them away!

Jokerman:
See Jesus own, "Get thee behind me,Satan"

Simply means
"get out of here"
Which anyone could say to a colleague who is trying to disturb you on duty.
Note that Jesus couldn't attack anyone during his earthly ministry rather he was hiding and running away from his enemies but after his resurrection he attacked Saul from the sky.

That's what all AUTHORITY means!

Jokerman:
Lol...so when did he get this authority? Is it when he died and resurrected and went back to heaven?

After his successfully earthly mission he said:

When he had received the sour wine, Jesus said: “It has been accomplished!” and bowing his head, he gave up his spirit. John 19:30

So after his resurrection he could say:

"All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth" Matthew 28:18

Jokerman:
Can you explain why Archangel Michael couldn't cast out the accuser from heaven until the man child was taken up to heaven?

Has he been given the authority yet? Matthew 28:18
What you don't know is that Michael always come to the rescue of God's people anytime Satan attacks so he is doing the same thing when he came to the earth but after his earthly mission has been completed {John 19:30} he was resurrected into glory that's why he could say ALL powers has been given him now {Matthew 28:18} but before then all he could do is scare away Satan just as he did when other lesser angels wanted to bury Moses and Satan came to make use of his body, just as he did when a lesser angel was sent to Daniel and Satan blocked the angel from reaching Daniel, just as he did when he's human and demons were possessing his own people right in his presence. But after his resurrection he has been given the power to oust Satan and other demons from heaven yet he must wait for orders from his father who is the father of all other angels too! Psalms 110:1-2

johnw47:
Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.

CHRISTENDOM: different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're following Christ.

CHRISTIANITY: movement of Christ's followers.

DIFFERENCE!
In CHRISTIANITY all members are strictly following the teachings of a first century Jewish young man named Jesus of Nazareth known as CHRIST. So they're united in their thoughts as they have agreed on what the Bible taught regarding their founder {John 17:17} they don't hate anyone so even for their enemies they must love and pray {Luke 6:27-28} out of love they must visit their neighbours {Mark 12:31} in order to share what they believe about the future hope {Matthew 10:11-13} they must be ready to make any sacrifice for the love of their fellow believers {John 13:34-35; 15:12-13} they must not partake in worldly politics {John 17:14} because politics and racism will cause division among them and lead them into hating and killing not only pagans but members of their own religion in other places! Revelations 6:3-4

In CHRISTENDOM different religions use the Bible to support the idea of their role model they call "PASTOR" and since each person have his own choice of PASTOR there is conflicting doctrines and contradicting teachings leading them to form various sects. With that it's easy for politicians to call their pastors using him to buy over supporters during political struggles so they can't concentrate on the teachings of CHRIST whom they're claiming as their leader rather each person follows his or her own choice of teacher hence they will pick up weapons or support the killing of their fellow believers in other places yet they'll still claim they're followers of CHRIST who commanded his own disciples never to raise weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52

I hope you learn from this!

Naijaboy18:
The rest of Nigeria is enslaved to Islam or Christianity.

Religion has a little to play in nslavement rather POLITICS is the major problem.

For your information there is no tribe on this planet without their own religion before the Western World and Arabs began taking politics to them under the disguise of better religion, they forced their system of rule upon our people and the next is brainwashing as our people now feel these people are better humans than us because they introduced their own religion in written forms.

So the slavery began when the black man trade his ancestral policies and cultural values for what those people called knowledge of God whereas it's just another way of ruling over our people.
Leave all the religions in their respective positions and let us practice another policy where everyone from the president to the man sweeping the road as public servants earn the same amount and let's see the religion that will have any negative impact on our people!

johhbekeboh09:
What's the name of the translation you quoted revelation '10:13': Ther's no revelation 10:13 in KJV & NWT

Out of envy he quoted Daniel 10:13 but since they're not used to teaching anyone he labelled the verse with another name!

Jokerman:
And who told you believers don't do this?

Chai!, See how human being is deceiving himself!
Guy you better repent and have a rethink!

Who are those believers?
In which of the churches are they operating as believers?

All of us know that Christendom churches are contradicting themselves in their doctrines so which one is teaching what you can vouch for?

johnw47:
yes, by their fruits "sewer talk" you will know them you think saved christians don't have work along with faith shows how you have been blinded:
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

The same verse most religionists claiming they are believers will quote yet all they have is mere arguments. Deeperlife against RCCG, Winners against Christ Embassy, MFM against Chosen. So if you can't mention the works you are doing in your faith that makes you a liar deceiving yourself!

johnw47:
you know i don't give pearls to satan's false jw dogs and pigs:
Mat_7:6  Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine,

You don't have anything tangible to say my guy you're just blabbing!

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
Truth has been teaching the saved to avoid sewer talk
you are full of never ending rubbish out of your head

Jesus said:

"By their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16

James said:

“You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” James 2:18

So if you say our teachings is LIES i think it will be better for you to present what your TRUTH is doing among adherents that we can all see in the society?

johnw47:
you can keep preaching/teaching lies forever, it will never make them true:

If LIES can make disciples of people from all nations {Matthew 28:19-20} instill in their hearts love for enemies {Matthew 5 43-48} for neighbours {Mark 12:31} and for fellow believers {John 13:34-35} and erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in their hearts {Isaiah 2:4 compare to Matthew 26:52} and make them the topic of all others claiming religionists! Matthew 5:14-16

Then present what TRUTH has been doing! James 2:18-26

cornelboy:
This is super story 🎵

If Jesus always claim to be God's son and God always refer to Jesus as His son that's enough to tell any right thinking human that Jesus must be one out of God's spirit sons in heaven: Angels!

According to God's word all the angels are referred to as God's sons or STARS {Job 38:7} Satan is one of the chief angels so he also has his place among them {Job 1:6} Michael is the first of all that's why he's called "the Archangel" who is Jesus the bright morning STAR! Revelations 22:16

So it's clear that Jesus who calls himself the bright morning STAR is also one of the STARS: ANGELS!

Jesus said:

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit".Matthew 7:15-18

The question you should ask is:

Who are those accusing this man of diabolical powers?
Is it those outside his church or his own m members?

Something like that happened to Jesus in his days too but it was his enemies that were saying it not his own followers.
Therefore if it's members of this man's church that are saying all these while they're still worshiping with him then it means that's what he sowed in them, he infused in them the love of money and since he's the only one making the money through the religion they're trying to oust him from the position so that others may come in to eat the cake but as they can't remove him through diabolical means they're now accusing him of the same thing he implanted in their hearts. Galatians 6:7
If there's no money making involved nobody from the same church will accuse him! 1Timothy 6:9-10

Jokerman:
I'm telling you

Great!
So keep telling all your fellow religionists so that they can become zealous in preaching and teaching just as real disciples should be doing in their neighbourhood! Matthew 28:19-20

johnw47:
oh duh lost false jw mad max
archangel means chief angel of which michael is one of
Jesus/The Word of God isn't just God's chief spokesman of the angels
The Word of God is God's chief spokesman in everything you talk a lot of rot out of your head, don't you

That's where we disagree!

Archangel means foremost of all heavenly sons of God and there's no other.

It's OK continue PREACHING and TEACHING what you know in your neighbourhood as long as it's yielding positive results {Matthew 7:16-18} and all those you're helping are also preaching zealously like real disciples {Matthew 28:19 compare to James 2:18-26} there's nothing to worry about!

johnw47:
and that's when He was a man, imagine what Jesus can do in The Spirit as The Word of God,
The Word of God is Jesus name in The Spirit, not michael:
Rev 19:13  He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Archangel means the greatest of all angels and that shows he is God's chief spokesman among the angels: the word of God!

Jokerman:
Once you've seen Jesus, you've seen God.

If Tinubu sent someone to speak with your landlord but your co-tenants took Tinubu's representative for an intruder and beat him up.
According to the law who did your co-tenants beat, the representative of Tinubu or Tinubu himself?
I'm sure you will sleep comfortably in that yard after knowing about the incident nah!

Ọmọ Moses was God's representative in Egypt so whoever has seen Moses as sent by God need not see God again because whatever they want to know about God at that point in time will be delivered to them by God's representative in their midst: Moses
That's why God said to Moses:

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a God to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.Exodus 7:1

The only difference between Jesus and Moses is that one was a spirit son of God in heaven before coming to the earth (Archangel Michael) while the other is a descendant of Adam but both of them are God's representatives:

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.Deuteronomy 18:18

That's what the Almighty God about Moses and Jesus, Peter the apostle confirmed that Jesus is the PROPHET that's coming in the manner of Moses:

For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.Acts 3:22

So anyone who has seen these two prophets has seen God because they're both God's representatives serving as God in the midst of their listeners!

RealDD:
Speak for yourself bro. I am not going to hell in Jesus name

The atheist knew the real meaning of that word "HELL" that's why he said all humans are going there because it's written in the Bible:

Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in hell (grave), whither thou goest.Ecclesiastes 9:10

Finger5:
Not really the act of withdrawal that is a sin if sex is done in the right context (between married couple) but he did his own wickedly to ensure his brother doesn't have offspring in his name. It was his intention that provoked God.

You've said it all!

Badgers14:
But how come David is the man after God's heart?

He is ever willing to support THEOCRACY that's the system of government God had in mind for mankind.

Janosky:
Jehovah God did not lie.
Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 48:13= Proverbs 8:27.
Your own Bible, Proverbs 8:27 PROVEN Emusan Sifia pains WAILING on Nairaland.
"When HE (Jehovah God in verse 22) established the heavens, I (Wisdom, Jesus Christ in 1 Cor 1:20,24) was there."
Daniel 4:30 is similar to Isaiah 44:22.
Did Nebuchadnezzar say that he alone built his Palace?
Yes.
Daniel 4:30,Who was with Nebuchadnezzar when he built the palace?
Emusan sold his brain to Trinity.

Don't mind trinitarians if JEHOVAH said He alone built everything they want to conclude that Jehovah must be Jesus but when Nebuchadnezzar said the same thing they won't conclude that the Babylonian King used craftsmen to do the job! Proverbs 8:30

IamKizzbrown10:
Prayer is a form of communication with
God. It can be formal or informal, spoken or
silent. There is no right or wrong way to
pray.
Some people pray to ask for God’s help. Some
pray for guidance, strength, or healing. Others
pray to express their gratitude to God for all the
blessings in their lives. Still others pray to
simply spend time with God and to get to know
Him better.
Prayer can be a powerful tool for connecting
with God and for finding peace and hope in
difficult times. It can also help us to grow
closer to God and to become more like Him.
What If I Don’t Pray?
If you don’t pray, don’t worry. You’re not alone.
Many people including myself ,don’t pray at all
because prayer is useless to me.
There are many reasons why people don’t
pray. Some people don’t believe in God.
Others don’t know how to pray. Still others feel
like their prayers aren’t being answered.

The highlighted is true and that's because the true Creator of heaven and earth totally differs from all other minor Gods {Matthew 5:45} so if you want to pray and you just look into the sky with a clean conscience whatever you pray for He hears you {Psalms 65:2} but then Satan and his demons are everywhere and their target is to get worshipers too so they're the ones using their human agents to draw innocent people to other Gods.
So if you open your harms and pray without mentioning the name of any specific God but call on the Creator of heaven and earth He will hear you, the unique qualities of the true God are listed in the Bible! Galatians 5:22-23
Now if you in anyway come in contact with the representatives of the true God your own conscience will tell you that these people are different from representatives of all other Gods because you will notice the qualities of God in their approach so if you decide to treat them badly then you will become restless as you continue thinking about their manner of approach but Satan's agents will be spreading bad news about them {Matthew 5:11-12} and if you're honest hearted and sincere you will realize that what you're hearing about them differ from what you're seeing! Exodus 23:1-2 compare 1Thessalonians 5:21

Well after pleading God will start recording your attitude towards His messengers {Matthew 10:14-15} from that moment He will no longer regard you or your prayers because you're no longer sincere in your findings! Proverbs 28:9

It's God's messengers that will teach you what you must do to become one of God's friends so that you can be in line for eternal blessings.

So God listens to all prayers but when people have the opportunity to meet His messengers and forget sincerity with conscience then He will no longer view them as innocent!

cornelboy:
Na politics dem dé play for all those churches oh. Dem dé buy position self

That's why it's difficult for them to love their fellow believers for real as the love of money and position surpasses the love they have for truth so during politics and racism they don't hesitate to pick up weapons against one another!

Adonijah asked for what is unconstitutional in Israel!

The newly anointed King inherits whatever is in the palace that's why Absalom took his time to have s€x with all his father's wives immediately he sent his father (David) on exile {2 Samuel 16:22} of course the next thing Adonijah will think of is the throne, that's why Solomon put him to death!

Davoneskay:
Amen, thanks once again.

You're welcome!

Kayouzka:
Having children is selfish, common! look at the world we live in today isn't evident that it full of struggles yet it all futility. One thing is certain the child you bring here would definitely suffer.

You're partially right but have you considered the fact that the preaching and teaching of God's kingdom must continue until the end? Matthew 24:13-14
So if believers aren't having children to inculcate God's word in their hearts {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} how will God's work be done till the end?

Davoneskay:
I preach the gospel whenever I am opportune.

Tithing is a continuous thing TEACHING is what Jesus commanded not just PREACH {Matthew 28:19-20} so if you just choose to preach when you feel like then you can't be industrious the way Jesus commissioned the job {Matthew 25:24-30} true Christians don't just PREACH but are going back to TEACH their Bible Students that's what Jesus meant when he said:

TEACHING them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Matthew 28:20

So you're not doing God's will as you can't obey the Christ to the core! Matthew 7:21-23

However you've tried as you admitted that you only preach what you know whenever you feel like but i'm sorry that's not how Jesus commissioned the work we must continue PREACHING, TEACHING and BAPTIZING those we are TEACHING, that's how to fulfil the task!

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
TEACHING them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.Matthew 28:19-20

Thanks for your time God bless you and may you have PEACE!