₦airaland Forum

Culled from the gaurdian newspaper
Monday, February 19, 2007 From Alifa Daniel, Asst. Political Editor, Abuja

PEOPLES Democratic Party (PDP) senators yesterday entered a second meeting with President Olusegun Obasanjo in 72 hours to push "for the return of the tickets" to aggrieved lawmakers.

The Guardian also learnt last night that some lawmakers have begun circulating a document to get the signature of their colleagues to make October 1, 2007 the date for handover of power to an elected president instead of May 29.

Other crucial matters on the state of the nation and the dwindling chances of the party were expected to be revisited after last Friday's meeting ended on an inconclusive note.

Senators led by Senate President Ken Nnamani were said to have frowned at the alleged favouritism showed some political office holders and aspirants whose names "mysteriously" disappeared from the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) list of "indicted" politicians.

Two names, that of a state governor from the South-East and deputy governorship candidate, were said to have been named as those who should have faced the Administrative Panel of Enquiry which submitted its report last week.

A senator, who was not at Friday's meeting, and who also boycotted last night's parley, said he was sure no one would bring up the issue of October 1 as handover date, but confirmed that "some rascals in the House of Representatives were passing around papers soliciting signatures last week, saying May 29 is not sacrosanct."

Nnamani and other senators were said to have pointed out last Friday that the chances of the PDP were getting slimmer with the high turnover of disgruntled members allegedly short-changed by the party.

One said last night: "It is about survival, so there is going to be a lot of horse-trading at the meeting we are going for."

It was learnt that last night's meeting was to get the input of the PDP's National Chairman, Ahmadu Ali and the head of its Board of Trustees, Chief Tony Anenih, who were out of town and the President wanted them to be around for fine-tuning of "mutually beneficial areas."

Senators who spoke on the alleged plot to move the handover date were sure it would not succeed because the Constitution had to be amended, but others noted that with the game of survival on, anything "could be cooked up by colleagues."

where are all the recovered money? in OBJ's pocket, where are all the recorvered houses ?were the houses given to the homeless people?NO instead they were  shared between OBJ and his friends. where is Abacha's returned loot? in OBJ's bank account.its just a merry go round i wonder when it will ever end. if some one steals another person will collect it and steal it again so i don't know who is fooling who here.

Gbenga Obasanjo(shutmouth) is that you?

is OBJ a better person than atiku? NO he is'nt . he is not a fool to have ran into a trap(UK) he wont be extradited he will be giving a mansion to live in, roman abromovic is wanted in russia for fraud and tax evasion but he has been given refuge in the UK.the former thailand president was over thrown in a military coup for corruption and he went striaght to the UK. noting will happen to Athief Abubakar if he looses at the court tommorow. he sure has friends there and they will definately protect him.

Atheifu Abubakar has ran out of the country

[quote author=Iyke-D link=topic=38135.msg900261#msg900261 date=1171905796]@mazaje,


Maybe we visited two different Nigerias - I visited in 1998 and re-visited again last year, and YES, a
lot has changed. I visited towns in Delta and was shocked at the level of slow but gradual transformation
taking place. I was even shocked by how well maintained and functional the Lagos airport was - relatively.
I know the country is still besieged by water and power problems, among others, but to pretend that nothing
has changed between 1999 and now is just being [b]dishonest [/b]at best.[/quote]TELL ME WHAT YOU SAW THAT HAS IMPROVED?

the roads are still as bad as ever, no water,the hospitals are still as bad as ever , unemployment has never been this bad,petroluem prices have never been this high its still the same suffering and smiling ,nothing has happened to the educational system its still the same.no security at all,nigerians have never experienced this amount of bank robbery,road robbery and failure in security system. salaries are still unpaid,i just saw meet a military man who told me he has been here in abuja for over a week now, sleeping on the streets just because he wants to collect his pension.

Am talking about changes and you are talking about lagos airport what has the airport got to do with the average nigerian? if u don't know last year when i went to nigeria the conveyor belt was'nt working we had to wait for over 4 hours before we got our luggages so i don't know what airport you are talking about. am talking about changes that affect the day to day life of the average nigerian and u are talking about airport na wah for you ohhhh. the people of the niger delta didnt know what militancy was until now.Nothing has changed in the Delta as u are claiming people are still poor as ever,no road no food no water no nothing its still the same as in 1998 for the average citizens not for the politicians(because they have definately seen an over whelming improvment) am talking about the average nigerian here not the political class. nothing has changed for them povery has not been alleviated in any way and the infastructures have not been built in any way too.though they are claiming to have recorded an economic growth its yet to be felt by the average nigerian.  8 years is enough for any responsible goverment to fix NEPA and rehabilitate our refinaries at least because they wil have an impact on the lives on the average nigerian but its not done.

most of the people on this forum keep talking about atiku not OBJ as if atiku was the person that stole the $170billion this administration got. we all know atiku will not win but the person that failed the nation is OBJ,if atiku had been a loyal VP and had not gone against the tenure elongation(which was not in the interest of the nation but his personal gain) he would have been the glorified VP and we wouldnt have been talking about him now .i just got into naija and things are still the same nothing has changed from 1999 till date everything is still the same,no roads, no light since yesterday(am using a generator at the moment) no security,no employment graduates all over the place,poverty on the increase,people are just dying any how no value for human life nothing.infact nothing is working and we all sit in diaspora and blame atiku as if he is the one that ate all the money.we all know that most of the Pro OBJ people on this forum are all the children and relatives of OBJ  trying to pose as ordinary nigerians. we all know you and there is nothing u guys have to tell us, your father(OBJ )is a useless failure no wonder he can not even manage is family with so many wives and children stupid old,outdated and backward thinking baboon he should retire back to his otta farm and be with his cousins(pigs ,cows and chickens).

Afterall when Baba was begging the LEGISLATHIEVES for ammendment of some sections of the constitution

baba wanted the legislathieves to extend his tenure but living upto their names they disappointed him.

They now have an opportunity to elect clean candidates who will serve them rather than their pockets.

who are the clean candidates? is it Aloa Akala that was reportedly condemmed by the EFCC boss as a criminal or is it Andy Uba that is already the appointed governor of Anambara state? is it Nasiru Mantu the corrupt deputy senate president?what about Jonathan Zwingina that was exposed by the FCT minister over bribery allegation before he will be endorsed as minister. who are does that are not corrupt? is it  the corrupt OBJ's daughter with the help of gov Gbega Daniel that stole so much money form Ogun state and almost had some one killed because she feels he is very formidable and might win election if she allows him to contest or is it Goodluck jonathan who's wife was involved in a million dollar scandal with the EFCC shortly after becoming the first lady of bayelsa state.is it the hand picked members of  the people destroy people's party that are going to be imposed on the people that are not corrupt despite being selected in a very corrupt and questionable manner? i know you are laughing at your self for making that statement because you know that its a big joke.

how can you say people have an opportunity to elect clean candidates who will serve them rather than their pockets when the (thief) Bode George is the campaing director of the presidential candidate of the PDP . how can you be fighting corruption when tony anhnih is on the presidentail campaing train? my people lets open our eyes to double standard our roads would have been better if tony anehih had used the over 300billion given to him on them he didnt and he is a free man and we are accepting what the PDP is doing, its pure stupidity and it doesnt make any sense. did chris ngige or the guy contesting against OBJ's daughter have acces to that kind of money? why are their names on the list?double standard is what is killing us in this country.

The same old story.
That a certain Mr A is corrupt does not make a corrupt Mr.B innocent. That defence is unacceptable anywhere in the world except in Nigeria

as far as Mr A is corrupt and Mr B is guilty then we will never move forward, ok agreed all the enemies of OBJ are out of the way will that end the corruption in nigeria when OBJ's friends are on rampage stealing and killing without anybody doing anything to them? NO it will only make the friends of OBJ steal more, they will now steal what the others were supposed to have stolen so its going to be the same merry go round. how many people have lost their lives because of Adedibu and chris Uba? why were they not prosecuted for causing chaos and destruction?OBJ's disqualification of these candidates is not in the interest of the nation but for personal gains and we will never accept it. Atiku and others are theives but Alao Akala,Gbenga Daniel and Nasiru Mantu are theives too so who is wrong and who is right here until we all rise and say no to all these double standard we will NEVER move forward we will take a STEP FORWARD AND TEN STEPS BACKWARDS. i rest my case

did the constitution of nigeria allow him to use the efcc as a weapon to fight his enemies? does OBJ believe in nigeria' s constitution? if he does he wont remove governors unconstitutionaly. the constitution said u are free until proven guilty by a competent court of law but OBJ is saying other wise .its not about constitution or anything its about competence and OBJ lacks it totally.

why didnt the EFCC indict OBJ? every body knows he has stolen billions from nigeria and the facts are there, why didnt the EFCC indict Anenih for stealing billions of naira? why is Bode George a free man? what about Nasiru Mantu? why is Andy Uba not indicted?billions have been spent on NEPA yet there is still no adequate supply of power why didnt the EFCC investigate that?what about all the contracts that were given out in rehabilitating the refinaries that never saw the light of the day? why is the EFCC not investigating that too, what about the billions of naira that was used for the 3rd term project?why wasnt it investigated ?we all know that if Atiku had not opposed 3rd term agenda he would have still been glorified just as the likes of bode george,tony anenih,andy uba and the rest of them. OBJ's battle against corupption is not in the interest of nigerians,he is just fighting his enemies which we all know.OBJ has no right to say who is corrupt and who isnt because as we all know he is the most corrupt of all.transperancy international still maintains that most of nigerians corruption takes place in the presidency which OBJ is the head

Why should OBJ and his friends steal billions of naira and prosecute others for stealing millions? If OBJ wants to fight corruption he should be corrupt free else he shouldnt because he is not better than all the people he is fighting, why should OBJ come out in public and say that his boy(Gbenga Daniel) has commited pardonable theft and Chris Ngege should be stoped from contesting? I just don't get this. OBJ openly said that the EFCC should vist the former minister (Mimiko) because he refused to follow his advice and not contest the gubernotorial elections. why is the name of the guy that is contesting against OBJ's daughter on the list of indicted people even though reports have stated he has never held any public office before. what kind of madnes is that?this was the same guy that was attacked and shot in the head for contesting against OBJ's daughter. we will never accept double standard.OBJ is a mad man that has no interest of nigerians in his mind we all know it and we will never accept his fight against corruption because it is purely on a personal basis which is not in the interest of the nation.OBJ being very very corrupt has no right to tell us who is corrupt and who isnt.

its really not purely a case of power but the people in power are using it as a tool to oppress the poor just as the white people that brought the idea of religion used it to get control of the africans. here in europe and america people are not into religion at all and every thing is going on well, their God is money but in africa its all about waiting on God people fail to do what is right and keep on waiting for a devine intervention that will never come. here no body waits upon anything people just do what they have to do and give in their best not waiting on some thing to come and help them when all the ability lies in them.In nigeria the system is terriblely bad and you just have to believe in some thing else the level of destruction will be unimaginable.

why should we believe a government that has been lying for 8 years non stop? i don't know who to believe here but what i know is that the suituation in the Niger delta is not very far from what was reported on CNN. even if they whole show was staged the FG will be lying as usual to deny the fact about what is happening over there cos it is no different from what was shown. what is happening in that region i believe is worse than what was shown on television by CNN. rather than blaming the CNN for showing the whole world there inadequatecies they FG should keep shut and wait for May to hand over power to another regime which i pray will try to help we nigerians because this government is a total failure.

thought u were the one that said the sunnews papers is not a newspaper to rely on? why are u giving us a link to their news outlet? na wah for u ohhh

people are just into religion in nigeria because u really need to belive in 'something' else every body will be dead by now, cos as it is with all the religion and religion adherants and what not nigeria is the place where crime,death,desturuction and all forms of evil these religions are against holds way. i am living a very non religious society here in europe and the people are far more honest and open minded than the very religious nigerians that are busy decieving and destroying them selves all in the name of religion and madness. i have been around europe too and the free thinking/very little religious people i see all over the place to me are far better people compared to the very religious average nigerian that will go to the church or mosque all day and night and end up stealing,killing,or destroying his fellow neigbhour. infact thats just the way of life out there(nigeria). i remember the time the useless OBJ came out on air and said that God told him to rule and some people believed him because of the too much belief in religion not fairness. it just does'nt make any sense to me and the people in general but because we just dont want to open our eyes and do what is right we prefer to hang on to religion to our own detriment.

8 years of backwardness,visionless and purporseless leadership. the mad animal should retire and go and be with his animal relatives (cows and chickens)in otta.

why is Ibrahim Mantu not banned? this is a man that was publicly disgraced by the present minister of the FCT, he was accused by the minister of telling him to pay a bribe of 50million naira b4 he would be endorsed as a minister by the senate we all knew what happened then. if OBj will come out openly and say that Gov Gbenga Daniel should be forgiven for his theft and corruption why shouldnt others be forgiven too.we all knew that OBJ's daughter sent assasins to kill the guy she was contesting against but she wasnt banned, why is that so? this is never the way to fight corruption. it's either u do it well or u dont do it at all, a thief(OBJ) has no right to call others thieves period.

IBB stands for international baban barawo. he is a great theif and we dont like him at all.people like him have no right to talk about corruption in nigeria

the stupid OBJ should just go we dont want him, lets see it the next PDP appointed president will come and help us out cos as it is OBJ has wasted our time. lets just hope he hands over to a good person cos his chapter has long been closed in every body's books

OBJ is a mad man

goodluck jonathan looks like one of those MEND rebels 

o boi ye!!!! which kin life be this? i no fit shout any more. this hapennings don dey pass man power but when people come out and talk about it in the news the government is quick to deny and say its all subversion.

McKren:
All this na gra-gra, as them waste Saddam Hussein, Iraq no still dey try to move on?
Them go conclude his case waste am nothing they happen. Naija will still move on.

That na very true talk, him go make noise tire nothing him fit do.

this is madness EFCC has just published the list of OBJ's sacrificial lambs and the list of OBJ's arch enemies. this list has little or nothing to do with fighting corruption in nigeria. i will say it over and over again OBJ has no right to fight corruption reason being that he is more corrupt that all the people he is accusing of corruption

 "  Start counting your fingers, May 29th is just  aroud the corner!! Baba will definitely answer some questions.  "

says who? now that they have made way for him to be the most powerful man in the people destroy people's party after his tenure as president how will he answer some questions. we all know that all the 50 PDP candidates that were filled are either sacrificed or are not in OBJ's good book , remember the party selection called primaries didnt go down well in most states some of the candidates had to be changed and some are still going to be changed . i believe most of the PDP guys whose names appear on the list were already penciled down for replacement so this is just the right opportunity for the action to be executed

na wa ohhhhhh

OBJ is a mad dog

Also spared is Governor Olusegun Agagu of Ondo State, one of Obasanjo’s anointed, who is running for a second term on the PDP platform. Yet, Agagu had been indicted by a judicial panel of enquiry headed by Justice Obiora Nwazota for fraud and embezzlement of about $3.6m at the defunct Nigeria Airways. The panel investigated the Airways from 1983-1999 and recommended the Agagu be made to refund to govt the 3.6 million dollars. Governor Peter Odili of Rivers State too was let off the hook in

It is instructive that while the EFCC Chairman, Nuhu Ribadu, had openly described the PDP gubernatorial candidate for Oyo State, Adebayo Alao-Akala as corrupt and unworthy of leadership, his name is conspicuously missing on this list

OBJ has no right to fight corruption in Nigeria cos he is the most corrupt of all,he is more cprrupt than all the people on the list so i wonder who he is fooling. we all know that this is just a charade we can't be fooled ,he is just sacrificing some friends so that he will get at his greastest enemy Atiku(another thief) which we all know.

donnymikky are u on OBJ's payrol or are u one of his so many sons

tlops:
He said that the gubernatorial candidate of the Labour Party in Ondo State, Dr. Olusegun Mimiko, would soon be visited by the EFCC. According to him, Mimiko messed up while he served as the Minister for Housing and Urban Development.

The President said that Mimiko ignored his plea not to run for the governorship seat in the April election.¨

Na wa ohhh which kin life be this? because a person has refused to back down as a gubernutorail candidate the EFCC will come visiting. this thing has now turned into madness and stupidity, mimiko messed up while he served as minister but Andy Uba didnt mess up when he served as presidentail adviser even when he was caught smuggling money into the US. kai i no fit shout again am tired of our open display of madness,ignorance,closed mindedness and backward thinking all in the name of politics.The efcc is not good for this nation as for now since it will only be used to create trouble and get at the political enemies of the president.

true talk donnymikky

what we are saying here is this,
there is no way adedibu should be parading himself as a formidable political god father while alams is in prison,why is anenih free and dariye on the run? why is bode george a free man and fayose a criminal, why are andy uban and cris uba not inprison? why the impunity and foul play. OBJ is a thief and has no right to call others thieves simple.just as BigB1 said imagine a scenario where atiku has his own efcc to go against OBJ, then we will really know the devil he really is