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I honestly don't see the point in this guy throwing his shoe. I think the journalist got it wrong.



But on the issue of Iraq Invasion I agree with tharma.

9/11 was never the reason Iraq was invaded, it may have been a stimulus but certainly not the creator.
The neo-conservatives have always wanted to Invade Iraq. PNAC led by William Kristol (son of Irvin Kristol the supposed father of neo-conservatism), Dyck Cheney, Paul Wolfwitz etc. wrote a letter as ealy as arround 1998 to President Clinton asking him to unilaterally invade Iraq and sieze saddams weapon of mass destruction, but Clinton ignored the letter because he prefered internal regime change.

In fact there is a document called ILA (Iraq liberation act) sponsored by the Clinton administration aimed at providing funds to opposition elements in Iraq so as to effect regime change.

So ousting Saddam has always been in the agenda before 9/11. In fact even Obama have argued that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or al-qaeda, and invading it was not a smart choice as it simply emboldened Iraq's no.1 enemy in the region Iran.

Iraq was never as a result of 9/11.

However for all of George W. Bushes error, I believe the journalist was simply being foolish.

The issue of electoral malpractice in Nigeria is more fundamental than who the INEC chairman is.

Under the current circumstances and the psyche of the Nation, even Kofi Anan cant conduct a credible election in Nigeria.

I honestly think this is more of an embarrasment to the Iraqi PM than George W. Bush.

well am not necessarily blaiming Buhari's counsel, I dont also think the fact that 3 out of 7 Judges were in his favour means anything. The whole process was stage managed.

There is no proof the Supreme Court would have done anything different if the quality of Buhari's case was better. A Judge who wants to be complicit will always find technical reasons to do that.

I was only saying that even the complicit Supreme Court knows the fraud was too obvious to pronounce Yar'adua an outright victor.

muhsin:
The suprime court upholds Yar-Adua's election? Lol That hasn't come to me with an iota of surprise. Exactly what we darned well know would certainly happen. And it did. Very funny yet sad.

Did the supreme court uphold his election or dismiss the opposition's case against Yar'adua on the ground of lack of strong evidence

They are two different things.

The President does not have the people's mandate, even the complicit Supreme Court does not say he has the people's mandate . . . . its important to note that.

Yaradua's statement was purely dishonest, while the Governor's words were ill chose, he did not put his argument in context.

Yar'adua who takes 6 months to change his cabinet will take his whole term to change the constitution on this matter and will still not succeed. The President was simply being dishonest. Their is no point dropping a plan to remove immunity clause and then getting may be your AGF to lobby senators to kill it. This administration says one thing and structurally does the opposite.
They can't even pass FOI bill. Yar'adua is the first elected President to get his ministers to swear oath of secrecy and yet someone wants to take him seriously when he talks about immunity clause. Since this administration he has used the number one law office solely for the purpose of giving immunity to ex-governors who have lost their immunity.

At best I think Yar'adua is trying to purchase popular support on the cheap.

On the part of Ohakim, I think his words were illchosen. I am personally not in support of outright removal of the immunity clause. Governors and the President should be protected from trivial prosecutions from the public. It will impede their service, however I believe the Police, AGF, EFCC, ICPC should have the power to investigate and prosecute a criminal Governor in the court of law while he is still in office.

Only the President should enjoy his immunity untill he is impeached or regime comes to an end.

Yaradua's statement was purely dishonest, while the Governor's words were ill chose, he did not put his argument in context.

Yar'adua who takes 6 months to change his cabinet will take his whole term to change the constitution on this matter and will still not succeed. The President was simply being dishonest. Their is no point dropping a plan to remove immunity clause and then getting may be your AGF to lobby senators to kill it. This administration says one thing and structurally does the opposite.
They can't even pass FOI bill. Yar'adua is the first elected President to get his ministers to swear oath of secrecy and yet someone wants to take him seriously when he talks about immunity clause. Since this administration he has used the number one law office solely for the purpose of giving immunity to ex-governors who have lost their immunity.

At best I think Yar'adua is trying to purchase popular support on the cheap.

On the part of Ohakim, I think his words were illchosen. I am personally not in support of outright removal of the immunity clause. Governors and the President should be protected from trivial prosecutions from the public. It will impede their service, however I believe the Police, AGF, EFCC, ICPC should have the power to investigate and prosecute a criminal Governor in the court of law while he is still in office.

Only the President should enjoy his immunity untill he is impeached or regime comes to an end.

Idris Lebo Kutigi should spare us all the noise about Judges not recieving bribe.

I just hope the supreme court rescue us from this toture on friday.

If fleeing will keep him safe goodluck to him, I love the man so much to see him die.

The concience of a Nation is under test when a man becomes an outcast for working for the people's interest.

The reputation of this regime is completely damaged.

I am only waiting for Ogbonaya Onovo's report on the panel he was meant to chair. It will really be shameful on his part if after being humiliated by this regime, he allows himself to be dragged into this administration's cardinal sin. Ribadu has a case in court, the Police can wait for the court proceedings before taking actions.

I am also waiting to hear from that Judge that will suggest that in a Presidential system of Government, that after an individual has been promoted by the President and commander-in-chief of the Armed forces. The head of PSC has the right to reverse that promotion.

Only time will tell.

when will arewa speak out to condemn the acts and ensure that the culprits are sent to jail

Mai Suya:
Oh dear. what has the North done this time?

@poster so the action of a few disgruntuled fundamentalists translates to the general attitude of the North?

Jeez. . . four active threads devoted to northern issues. E be like say una no get am for work this evening.

It will help a lot to have prominent Northerners repudiate this acts and encourage that the hoodlums be caught

This busines of branding these boys extremists without bringing them to book and yet we see it happen time and time again is not enough.

this business of arresting internet bloggers is the lowest I have seen any govt succumb to in modern history. Those who alerted us to the gist that Yar'adua may have borrowed Mugabe's kidney in his last trip to Germany may not be wrong after all.

lol kidding, our AGF is simply a backward fool who is driven by nothing else but money.

You know when such a character is the number 1 law officer in a country, just know that such country is in trouble. This is the sort of lawlessness that breeds rebelion in east and central Africa and this AGF may drift Nigeria towards a bannana republic if someone does not act fast.


Even Terry Waya thinks our AGF is the greediest man in Abuja

I believe she only failed those who expected otherwise.

She was handpicked to do a job and she is doing it really well. The EFCC at moment is run by our criminal AGF.

My only grouse with her is that she drops the name of her grandchildren in her quest to decieve.

you know "I am a grandmother and I can not do anybody's bidding".

I think Ribadu if he decides to run needs to soften up a bit.

We know what he is capable of, he also need to show that his course is not one driven by anger but a desire to do something good for our country.

It adds no value to anybody's life on the street of Nigeria if IBB, IBORI, ATIKU etc are sentenced to life in Prisonment. However we can reduce corruption and make the country work for the common good of everyone.

We can make it a lot more difficult for new leaders to steal going forward, rather than dwelling on our misfortunes of the past.

I believe Ribadu can find the other side of him to do this.

I wish progressives in Nigeria should join forces Ribadu and Duke can come together to lead our country into the 21st century.

Mai Suya:
As much as I sympathize with him, I'm not sure I support his blatant disregard for the summons from his superiors. Oga Ribadu, berra chage before I. . .

Nigerians are so funny

This simply shows that we need to reform our police

U dont instill discipline by bullying people. 21st century army does not even work like that, let alone police.

Does Okiro really think all the police officers have no fundamental human right, I really like to know.

The idea that Ribadu takes Okiro to court, and then goes to accept purnishment from Okiro for taking him to court is such a very primitive narative.

The police needs to be mordernised.

Okiro must wait for the court to determine Ribadu's rank

lucabrasi:
I'm sorry for we nigerians, we have very short memories, the fact that ribadu did creditably well inSOME NOT ALL of his tenure in e.f.c.c and threads like these are springing up, a fela song comes to mind, in the country of the blind,na one eye man be king.

what is your solution

a continuation of the myth . . . . that corruption cant be fought

I guess we should all be hopeless and not do anything about it . . . . . a scenario the fat cats love

i did not even know the movement had already started

Join it here and encourage people of like minds to join

It is up to our generation to cease our future and lead the country into the 21st century

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=81386290064&ref=mf&-Ribadu%2F37035137872

I dont know whether he will make a good President, but I surely know he will out perform the current occupant of Aso Rock.

But going by the fact that he built the EFCC from scratch to what it is today, I believe there are traces of good leadership qualities in him.

If he runs for President, whether he will win or not . . . . . . I will certainly be willing to contribute to his course with my credit card.

I think creating a page for FACEBOOK fans of Ribadu will be a good start . . . . if that is successful, a webpage can be launched for him.

For the sake of our country I hope he has.

He needs to also order the immediate sack of Mike Aondoakaa if he must be taken seriously.

Otherwise this is simply an exercise to save face.

My choice has always been Donald Duke . . . . . . . . I followed his campaign in 2006 and could actually draw parallels on the direction Duke was heading to how Obama ran his campaign.

Unfortunately Nigeria refused to hope.

People need to realise that before their was an Obama the American society was ready for a President of his background.

1. Racism had generally become unacceptable even though there were hints of it, it was no longer popular

2. The main stream media which was traditionally conservative and right-wing became a lot more centrist and guided by common sense

3. Hollywood embraced the idea of a President of ethnic minority or female gender. You may not believe it but this affects people's psyche and their ability to judge a candidate not by his gender or colour but by what he stands for.

But unfortunately in Nigeria . . . . . .

Our idea of being politically savvy is to vote along tribal and ethnic lines. We still promote tribalism when we urge an ethnic group to come together and present a candidate to the country.

The mainstream media is Nigeria still thinks through its stomach and how they can line their pockets not what is best for our future.

Nollywood is yet to realize that . . . . . . by simulating an ideal Nigeria where democracy works, where people's votes are counted, where Presidential candidates campaign to the people based on their programme, where Presidential Candidates debate the future of the country on national TV, where Nigerians vote not along ethnic and religous lines but based on who can improve the economy, healthcare, schools . . . . . . . they can begin to render the status quo obsolete and drive a wave of attitudinal change.

I think 2006 and Donald Duke thought me that before we can have an Obama, we have to get our fundamentals right.

Till thy kingdom come, I will not agree that Ribadu was selective as EFCC boss because the premise of that argument is wrong.

No one knows who OBJ's friends are other than OBJ himself.

The idea that the selectivity argument held traction tells more about how informed we are as a Nation more than anything else. The number one opposition leader in the country who was Rtd General Buhari was never a guest of the EFCC, Ken Nnamani whose steadfastness helped defeat third term was never a guest of the EFCC.

Why because they had no question of corruption to answer. So this idea that when a thief is asked to give account of their stewardship they tell you they quarelled with the President the previous night that is why they are being persecuted is just silly.

What is even more sillier is the fact that it was Nigeria's money that was stolen and not Ribadu's. Yet Nigerians are rejoicing that Ribadu got what he deserved.

Dont tell me Mr So So has not been caught because the EFCC was not the only law enforcement agency at the time. We had the police and the ICPC too. So Ribadu can not catch everone alone.

The man did his job with distinction in my book.
Our country has a long way to go . . . . . President Yar'adua, Mike Aondoakaa, Farida Waziri and Mike Okiro should remember that power is transient.

ziddy I think we are on the same page

I believe Ribadu was very smart and did his job well

I was only lamenting how he lost out in the power calculation which is down to OBJ's bad decision on Yaradua

lucabrasi:
while i do not support ribadu's persecution in any shape or form,one thing we must not fail to realise is that ribadu broke the unwritten law by taking sides in politics, in spite of prof akunyili's many achievements,if she had taken sides openly like ribadu did during the obj time,she ll have made enemies as well who would have called for their pound of flesh now, what has made it worse for ribadu is that in his quest to please obj,he had burnt the bridges and have actually gone against the people who would have protected or pleaded his case at the presidency, if he had people like atiku hence tinubu and ac machinery pleading his case,he would have been amongst the ministers by now rather than facing persecution, i hope he has learnt his lessons that nigerian politics is murkier than the dirtiest gutter and the best recipe for survival is to keep out of it entirely and shut your mouth

Look the reason Dora is yet to get in trouble is because those who import fake drugs do not have the amount of political clout that those who Ribadu fought against has.

And by the way, the only reason Ribadu lost this fight is because of OBJ's bad judgement on what Yar'adua is all about.

Ribadu threatened the corrupt establishment and would have wiped them away if only OBJ acted on conviction and not calculation. If El-Rufai was President today and Ribadu was IG or National Security Adviser . . . . . . . . . who is Ibori and Micheal Aondoakaa

The only message I have for the AGF is that this country has seen worse dictators, Yar'adua is a toy. If Aondoakaa thinks he can drag this country into fascism and wield all the powers in the world forever he needs to think again. They dont even have maximum loyalty from the military.

well 47% of Americans thought Sarah Palin was brilliant enough to be VP

If people are that dumb in America with all their access to info, let alone Nigeria.

I will not even try to argue whether Ribadu has integrity or not . . . . . . but what I do know is that if the situation is reversed, it will only take 2 days to find materials to indict Aondoakaa because he is a big and reckless thief.

I was stunned as I did not understand that it should be Seun's job to vet the media.

And you know, I thought Micheal Aondoakaa knew anything. . . . . . . the man is so dumb.

Anybody who has passed through a higher institution should know that graduation ceremonies, are nothing more than ceremonies. What matters is the process which Ribadu has completed.

No matter what, he has gone through the course at Kuru. completed his studies, if they don't give him his certificate today, they will give him another day.

So this whole business of disrupting Ribadu's graduation is what high school mafia rivals do. Ribadu set a trap and Micheal Aondoakaa walked into it, lets wait for his "rule of law" interpretation of this one.

I wish their is a video of this episode, it needs to be posted on youtube. Let the world see a video of how backward 2008 Nigeria AGF thinks.

Was meant to be posted under the topic where Ribadu was booted out from his graduation.

Yaradua will not be President forever, that is what I know.

Micheal Aondoakaa will find himself in Jail one day, certainly.

Reading and understanding the court verdict will be a good start

People need to grow up on this nairaland.

Why is Farida Waziri inviting Ribadu to come and hand over to her. Did she take over from Ribadu or from Ibrahim Lamorde.

They are looking for all sorts of means to prevent Ribadu from graduating from NIPSS Kuru. It seems the head of the School Yakubu Sankey will not co-operate and expel Ribadu hence they want to sought other avenues to prevent his graduation.

Ribadu was simply being pre-emptive and ensure that he graduates from NIPSS. Nothing more.

I am still waiting for your 5 reasons why we should take you more seriously than the UN

Qouting anyone else who you like their view is not one of the reasons

OBJ may or may not be able to negotiate peace in Congo, but it is not too far ago that OBJ played a pivotal role in negotiating peace in Liberia. So why is your opinnion and that of Levi anymore important than that of UN which is actually supported by OBJ's record.

And by the way I dont care who Levi Obijiofor is . . . . . . . . because regardless of whatever view I hold in politics if I type them in google, I will find at least one professor who agrees with me.

But the extent to which those views should be taken more seriously than those of the UN will always remain questionable.

So then again, why should I take you more seriously than the UN . . . . . 5 reasons only!!!

I think this is goodnews to David Axelrod

If Al-Zawahiri was celebrating Obama's victory then Americans will have cause to worry.

I don't think any American politician needs Al-Qaida's endorsement.

And by the way Obama enjoys enough goodwill from the Arab World. When Obama visited Jordan, he was personally driven to the airport by King Abdullah of Jordan. Even Amedinajad found time to write Obama some good letter.

General David Patreaus and Other commaders in Pakistan-Afghanistan see so much goodwill in the region to Obama to pursue a new agenda.

Conclusively I think this is goodnews as it gives the Obama administration an opportunity to isolate Al-Qaida from Islam.