IAmStrange: can u kindly point them out? like which one?
This khaleel whatever he calls himself... I infer that he is a Salafi since he claims to follow the ways of the Prophet only which is the definition of a Salafi according to you
I want to see how you will tell me that I am misinterpreting him like you told me last time when he is clearly insufferable and intolerant
Khaleell001: Why was it not celebrated in Saudi Arabia? In Makkah or Madina? The birth place of the prophet and the place Islam thrived? Why? Since you claim it was celebrated all over the world?
Most of you think we Muslims are dummies like you who just accept everything a pastor says without scrutinizing it. My religion always tell me to ask for proofs when anyone makes a claim and if there is no proof,it means that claim is a lie and a deception.
I said it was celebrated all over the world. I didnt say it was celebrated in any specific country except Nigeria so youve shown your stark illiteracy once again.
By the way since when is Saudi Arabia the pacesetter for Islam? When most Muslims dont even like or agree with them?
Why were women restricted from driving until recently if Saudi Arabia is such a pinnacle? How come whenever somebody brings that up, you people quickly dismiss them as non-indicative of the Islamic world yet suddenly youre here defending them now that it suits you?
I repeat that you are just a Muslim by mouth. Waka
Khaleell001: Do you even know what sunni Muslims believe?
I am by God's grace a practicing Sunni Muslim and no sunni Muslim who truly follows the sunnah (the prophetic tradition)will celebrate that concoction.
It's known in the Islamic theological schools of thought as a bid'ah(a religious innovation) because it does not have any evidence in our religion and it is utterly discouraged in Islām.
Ikhras! Do you even know what Christians believe? If you were a practising Muslim you wouldnt go about insulting and provoking people over nothing.
Youre only a Muslim by mouth and monicker so just keep quiet and stop disgracing Islam with your foolish utterances.
Mummymahdi: Oga read well never in history Sunni celebrate mawlud. No any Sunni that shares Sufism nor practice it for division Yes that's it
Better go and read well yourself! Smh!
Sunni Muslims observe the Prophet Muhammed's (also known as Mohammed or Muhammad) birthday on the 12th day of the Islamic month of Rabi' al-awwal, while Shi'a Muslims mark it on the 17th of this month. Muhammed is believed to be the last prophet.
I have personally seen SUNNI MUSLIMS celebrating MAWLID and we live in a country that DECLARES IT A NATIONAL HOLIDAY so just come out of my mentions if you dont want to be serious.
And Tasawwuf orders exist in both Sunni and Shia Islam
IAmStrange: Of course Nabiyy Eesa (peace be upon him) will never frown
Whatever u say doesn't define Imes. Imes is far from unreasonable in Shaa Allaah. Reason and wisdom is actually one of his traits with which God will bless him so that he can use them to carry out his mission
Lol. No comment.
Do you just have a bunch of hadeeth saved in your phone or what
sunni Muslims don't celebrate eid Mawlid, it is the sufis who do.
They sufis concocted eid Mawlid without any command or instruction from God just to copy you Christians the same you celebrate paganism in the name of Jesus.
You are not telling the truth; Sunni Muslims celebrate mawlid all over the world. And Sufism occurs in both Sunni and Shia Islam so you dont have any point.
All the other ones you are saying are irrelevant; since you have a division in who celebrates MAWLID in ISLAM you have no right to start pointing the finger about who does or who doesnt celebrate CHRISTMAS in CHRISTIANITY .
Khaleell001: This is ignorance at full display. This isn't tolerance. She ought to start seeking for forgiveness for this act.
If Deeper life, Jehovah witnesses, Deeper life, seventh day Adventist who are all Christian Church do not show support with the Christmas celebration why would a Muslims who understands eesa(Jesus) alayhis salaam who Christians claim was born on the 25th of December without any biblical support or evidence and yet this overzealous lady is celebrating a lie.
All these churches mentioned above believe Christmas is paganistic yet one phony Muslims who I doubt knows about Islam was to form "tolerance."
In fact, tolerance is not about showing support for lies,it is knowing our differences and respecting that difference without trying to lord over the other.
You are just not serious at all! We know he was not born on 25 December. We are just using the day.
Sunni and Shia Muslims can never celebrate mawlid innabi on the same day or even agree on the significance of the day so where do you get off talking about Christians
You can felicitate with somebody without necessarily believing in their religion so you have absolutely no point!
Anybody who wants to know what a real Muslim and not BIGOTS like we have in this thread talks like should watch this!
matrixme: Very commendable efforts. Only that she should remove that annoying golden shine shine something from the tree and go and burn it. I really hate that thing.
You hate tinsel Why! Thats the best part of the decoration
lefulefu2: hahaha no ooo iyam not suspecting u o .anyway when someone is based abroad and he or she has insensitive lazy relations then u might be forced to engage in things that are criminal.if u have rleations who have things working for them back home and they are gainfully employed then u lucky cos the pressure on u will be less.when i was in benin some guys will be waiting for their elder bro overseas to send to them month ending and when the elder bro will send the money they will collect it and use it to drink beer and spend the remainder on their numerous girlfriends plus prostitutes.some relations no get concience.
And then we end up reading on front page about how the person slumped and died of exhaustion smh!
People should just be careful oo...if you know you cant say no then just off your phone make those useless non-entities no kill you mtchew
If they want money why dont they join you there? You get 2 heads? smh
nameoh: yes there ws an insider as i said in my earlier post. even where they said she claimed the landlord evicted her, should have been investigted. such lies dont hold waters, if not everyone in uk who wants a council house will just lie with such. if she had used a fake name that will be the first thing the newspaper will say.
Defenderalert: Being better off as a kid doesn't guarantee a responsible life in adulthood I say again its you who needs to broaden your horizon.
It doesnt guarantee it but makes it easier. At times people dont do irresponsible things because they want to but because they see it as necessary.
At least the man wont say that he regrets doing it because it afforded his children the lifestyle they are enjoying today. I guess he would say "I did it so that they wouldnt need to".
faithfull18: Seems a lot of people didn't read the part where she said she didn't have issues with him going by Jan 2nd.
The only issue I think she was complaining about was him always spending Christmas and New year celebrations with his extended family and not his immediate family.
I am sure she doesn't also have issues with him going any other time of the year.
Yeah, most people didnt see that part.
At the same time she should have taken her time to explain the situation in the OP very well so that people could get where she was coming from and advise her appropriately. What she wrote originally just made her sound like a monster which is why everybody blasted her.
Her complaints were reasonable anyway; if care is not taken the children will leave the house having never spent Christmas with their father.
The husband is just emotional because of the strain of his dad being chronically ill so he just jumps to obey whatever message they send him without thinking of the effect on his immediate family. I can understand both of them sha. Its tough on all the family when somebody is sick.
LOGOBELT: He is a responsible man, yet hosts irresponsible show right
You might be right, I might be hoping to get senses in few years to come… But its obvious, you have no hope at all, as your sense is very much disappointed in you right now, and as made conclusion and decided to vacate the nonchalant head of yours, which as refused to work with the brain, with no hope of returning….
This makes you more senseless than I am, and am scared you might not acquire that senses in few years to come.
I pity your head right now, imagining it working without THE BRAIN.
Hian! Na your type fit give somebody YAB for Christmas smh
SIRTee15: So if it's that easy to get a council flat... Why so much homelessness in uk..... Or is there a different reason for their homelessness....
Im not saying its easy, I am just laughing at that guys analysis that the lady must be a harlot just because they gave her a house as if hes not aware that such countries have a welfare system in place to provide shelter for people
You have to qualify your "why is there so much homelessness in uk". So much with respect to what?
I guess it should be their government policy that would answer your question. Did you observe plenty of homeless people there or what
jagojunior: don't add to her story in your attempt to prove a point.
Going back to the origin of her crisis will help her in solving her problem.
It's not your fault but you must identify and deal with your excesses, then join forces with your husband to curb the excesses of his sisters. As it is right now, you can't join forces with hubby cos he's not open to you.
nameoh: Do you think it is that easy for citizens to get council flat near london ? Not forgeting with NRTPF.NRTPF means not entitiled to public fund and council house is one of them, also benefits. The control was broken by not verifying her status which is supposed to be the first step. The only way she would have been posible will be if she has vunerable child.
Yes, the first control was broken when they failed to confirm her status ergo eligibility for those benefits. I think she must have used somebody elses name or somebody on the inside waived the requirement because the emphasis of the article is that she was already a homeowner and not that shes an unsettled immigrant or whatever its called.
Not easy but more possible if you have an insider who can influence the allocations for you and bump you up the waiting list. If they know a property that has recently been vacated you just need them to submit your name/push for you. Plus she has 3 kids, I wonder how old they are
And thats if she even used her real name to claim all that stuff. They said she "fraudulently" obtained a mortgage. How can you get a mortgage without identity documents? She was probably doing some contract work somewhere using somebody else's documentation.
planetx: Anyone dreaming of coming to the UK to sleep in a toilet is an irredeemably foolish person. England is a dump filled with poverty and homelessness.
Lol is that the part of that guys post that worried you?
Not that he couldnt conceive that a homeless person could be given shelter without being an embassy worker or a prost!tute?
nameoh: But how was it easy to give someone on NRTPF a council house even when citizens find it difficult to get
She lied to the council that she had been evicted by her landlord and I dont think they bothered to check her status until that person complained
Their issue was that she was claiming benefits when she had a house already but not that she wasnt entitled to those benefits in the first place. That detail emerged later. Funny huh
Theyre even still contemplating her status sef...thats not even the one paining them
nameoh: This fraud should not have happen in the first instance. The council should not have given her a house becos her visa states NO RECOURSE TO PUBLIC FUND. Am sure they identified the mistake and started diging further into her entire uk profile. That is why she was the first to be convinted of such offence Am sure an insider helped her get the council house.
The article said her udala got burst because one of her tenants went to complain about her to the council