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blank: Stop confusing people. How do you know it was a natural conception? Using the fact that she could not walk is so dumb and makes you sound like an illiterate. The baby is implanted in the womb as a fertilized egg so naturally, the woman will be pregnant and show "the baby bump". No one is disputing that God did a great thing cos it is not easy but the complete story will not hurt anyone.

Please what is the complete story ? Did this couple in their testimony said it was IVF or were they seen by any one on this forum in the hospital or with their doctor taking the IVF option or could it be that the doctor who did the procedure is on Nairaland or could it be that we are just presuming that it was the IVF option since 'we know' that God 'can't' do it except via the IVF OPTION ?
Sholasys might be ignorant of how IVF works and that does not warrant any one of us to call her/him names ! Besides,who said this pastor isn't telling the complete story ? Is there any thing too big for our GOD ?
God help us all

sholasys: I wouldn't have commented but i will not read this sh!!t and allowed it to rub God's Glory. This is my church and the Man is my provincial pastor. And note that, its not because he is my pastor that i am saying this but bc its the truth. Its never an IVF OK, It is natural conceive and she delivered naturally. We all saw the pregnancy from the baby bump to delivery. It get to a point she could not walk bc she was very heavy, couple with her age. Its God's wonder.. Some people lack spiritual understanding of God's wonder works. I pray it will never be too late. They are Redeemers and our theme for this year is Signs and wonder. That is where they got that name from and its really a sign & wonder and miracle after 23yr (pls not 25yr) of marriage. I have her pic when she was about to deliver last yr and when her Husband was celebrating His 50year birthday.Unless i have her permission i willnot upload that pic but here is the child dedication ceremony picture.The 3 children at the podium in those women's hand (i will only upload one ) our GOD is ABLE Read:Ephesians 3:20
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No matter what you say here,those who have so grieved the holly spirit will not comprehend becos they just can't,having blasphemed against the holly spirit.
Blasphemy against the holy spirit is wen you attribute the work of the holy spirit to the devil !
May God help us

[quote author=Okija_juju]You saw my text and didnt see that retarded biitches message abi?!

May Amadioha have mercy on your soul. [/quote]Who and what is amadioha ?
God help us both

[quote author=Okija_juju]And so what?!

If I no fit born, then the shame is on your God for creating a defective being. Secondly, whatever happened to adoption?!

Anyways, I share this curse of yours with your entire Family. May all your wishes for me also be spread amongst your entire family in Jesus Name!! AMEN!

Infact, may this generation of your family be the last in Jesus Name!! AMEN!!

May your family tree never bear any more branches in Jesus Name.. AMEN!!!

May all the women in your family be barren and may all the men be sterile in Jesus name!! AMEN!!!

Thank you!! [/quote]You use the name of Jesus as if you have a relationship with HIM !
May God help u
God bless us

'I cook wen i like' May mean there is a cook/chef in the house and she (Joke) occasionally goes in there to cook some kind of special meal for oga Olu !
I don't do Laundry does not mean 'i can't do laundry'it may just mean that the house helps take the clothes to the laundry or do it themselves ! Must it be madam that will wash my clothes ? Anyone can do the washing and drying just let me have something clean to put on whenever !
May God continue to bless their union !
God bless us all

oyb: rossik, sincere nigerian, billyonaire and co never show face. they must be searching desperately for a spin to put on this

lets see what the laptops will come up with this time

a president issuing pardons to child r-apists

mo-ron at the top. this is what happens when you hire people who are little more than yes men

a poorly thought out attempt to appear liberal

aso rock drunkard

You say all these to an authority over you ?
Pray for him instead,that is if you are a christian !
May God help us all
God bless us

Originalsly: Hmmm....James 4:1-3....this Adeboye guy can really turn the Bible upside down.Maybe he and his followers should read James 5:1-3....1.Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you 2. Your riches are corrupted and your garments are moth-eaten 3. Your gold and silver are cankered, and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have reaped treasure together for the last days.

Just for you to criticize the man of GOD and God's word you quoted James 5:1-3 and you failed to take it to vs six where James made us understand the type of rich men he was referring to !-The wicked rich man ''Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.[a] 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.''-James 5:4-6
The above isn't talking about the rich but the wicked rich man !
God help us

[quote author=Okija_juju]The house of the lord [b]in Nigeria is a den of Thieves and robbers.. [/b][/quote]The house of the lord right from the days of Jesus has always been that way and not a Nigerian thing !
Thank God for Jesus and his Judgement that will start from HIS house !
''For it is time for judgment to begin with God's household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?''-1 Peter 4:18
God help us

harryem: Let's learn 2 live 2geda n in peace plzzz. I wnt a peaceful co-existence

It will be difficult !
God help us

Ameena balarabe: u're fool..

[quote author= muslim are not terrorist. .islam is religion of peace

See your quotes above,how do we reconcile both ? You say you are peaceful yet you call people out for a brawl !
God help us

[quote author=Flyin' Saucer]WTF abt d RED tin up there? Threats! threats!! threat!!! Well, I thank my irreligious GAWD for delivering me from religion. Now, I am free indeed.[/quote]Say no to religion !
Accept Jesus as ur lord and personal savior.
Study the life of Jesus anywhere then you will see if HE died for you or not !
Jesus is lord and HE cares for ur soul!
God bless u

COOLDUN: Very good, what about the people who kill and destroy the properties of their fellow humans in the name of fighting for the creator?

Now,speaking on the side or as a Christian,it goes a long way to show you that these folks who kill and destroy the properties of their fellow humans are not and can't be Christians unless they change from their ways,accept Christ in totality and follow his teachings in deeds !
God help us

raynold: you are just a f...ooool trying to cover up what you guys do...abeg any priest rape your son, molest your son or do anything to your son? Catholic is the most respected church or religious practice in the world pure #fact... I really would love to see a terrorist group with the name "Christian sec" in it...fact is you guys are to violent

From your text,you sound more violent than the accused ! If you must correct,do it with love. These muslims are humans created by God.Jesus died for them as well.All you need do is to preach the peace 'your Christ'taught you and not to use hate words on them. How do you now win this muslim over to Christ if you continue to use such words on him ? See below the admonition of christ:
''But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;-Mathew 5:44
God bless us

freecocoa: What religion do you practice please?

I am not a religious person ! By HIS grace i'm a christian.
God blss us

freecocoa: Abegi leave the mumu, I've lived amongst these people and trust me, majority of them are just nothing to write home about.

They think say na to pray 5 times a day be say you be better person, my mum used to say "check under the babanriga of one alhaji, na small girl you go see under"

All who insult and use abusive words on their fellow humans know not GOD ALMIGHTY THE CREATOR OF HEAVENS AND EARTH !-''Christians & Muslims alike''
God help us

goldylock: Excuse me! I didn't call Islam any name. Please point where I called islam names. I merely stated plain facts. Even if you think my comments on Nairaland won't help atleast am not keeping quiet about there pains like some of you are doing here using propaganda just to protect islam. I don't pray people will keep quiet about your pains but what goes around comes around be brave when Karma catches up with you people.

If you are a christian pray pray pray for them all !
Now for correction,do it with love !
God bless us

All who insult and use abusive words on their fellow humans know not GOD ALMIGHTY THE CREATOR OF HEAVENS AND EARTH !-''Christians & Muslims alike''
God help us

ItsModella: Exactly. As a Christian, I don't see why I should say nice things about Islam or Muslims when they're destroying Christian homes. Why should I pretend like all is well when all is not?

If truly you are a christian,see below what the Christ you follow is saying to you :
''But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;-Mathew 5:44
God bless us

dabigwalls: I don't believe that because I tithe I will not suffer or because I tithe, I will have Heaven on earth. My purpose and goal, is to (as hard as it is) serve God in spirit and in truth. Other things may or may not come, I don't care.

Tithing can not take any man to heaven ! If you Tithe and believe you can not suffer,it depends on you and ur believe ! If you don't tithe and believe that you can't suffer,it depends on you. If you Tithe and feel that you can still suffer,it depends on you.
We don't get what we pray for but what we believe !
If you serve God and don't care for the things of this world,you can still make heaven,afterall Lazarus the poor man made heaven. Some want to go to heaven like Isaac,Abraham and Job the richest man in the whole of the East !
God help us all

dabigwalls: I absolutely agree with the lessons and I must say that it is always a blessing to read God's word and understand it. I will like to however ask, why is Christianity these days always bandied as an investment. For instance in this message, there is a quick introduction of the inherent blessings that follow obedience of God's word as shared. But I will like to ask why we must always expect when we give. Can't we just give selflessly like Mary did with her Alabaster, like the Widow gave to Elisha the Prophet or like our Lord Jesus Christ gave of His life for no personal gains?

I don't believe that because I tithe I will not suffer or because I tithe, I will have Heaven on earth. My purpose and goal, is to (as hard as it is) serve God in spirit and in truth. Other things may or may not come, I don't care.

It depends on what you want bro ! The word of God is a complete package,it depends on what you want ! Christ is there to give to us but if you choose not to receive what he is offering,then i will just say it's ur choice ! He gave us life that that we may have it abundantly but if i choose not to receive it,then it depends on me ! No one is saying trials won't come as a Christians but we should know wen we are been tried and wen we are been tempted. One is there to build us(trial)where as the other is there to bring us down and mock us (temptation) ! The word of God isn't about suffering but we have been admonished by Christ to endure difficult times(persecution for following Christ) if they come for kingdom sake ! Christ never asked us to go looking for hard/difficult times where as HE has made available the abundance of good times.
Christ died for you and I that HE may receive us unto HIMSELF !He gave us HIS life that HE may receive from us-repentance !Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit.-1 Peter 3 :18
The woman with an Alabaster Jar of perfume equally gave ! The sinful woman(NOT MARY ! Luke 7:37) who wet Jesus'feet with her tears needed to be forgiven of her sins and she could identify the powers and personality of Jesus.She applied the heavenly wisdom and received a gift in return as expected ! ''Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown.But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.”
Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”-Luke 7:47-48 This woman knew she was a sinner and that Jesus could cleanse her of her sins. The grace of God came upon her and she got her deliverance-forgiveness.
The shunemite woman ! She gave also to God by giving to the man of God ! She understood that Elisha was a Holy man (2nd Kings 4:She cared for the man and respected God true her care for the prophet. She gave becos she has got something to give ! But her giving to the man of God has been orchestrated by God to care for HIS son the prophet and to further give back to her(Shuenamite woman) on the long run !-2nd Kings 4:14-17 She was given a son by God through the man of God !
May God help us to see the positive points in every word of God & not try to infuse negativity to discredit men of GOD and the word of GOD !
May God help us all

[quote author=lanre_front]@m.k.o2005,

When I say some people try to help out God, I was mostly referring to Nairalanders and some peole have talked to, and my comment about Pastors "not knowing how to balance the word of God" with other appropriate portions of the Bible, I wasn't specifically referring to Papa Adeboye.[/quote]@lanre,i saw ur post.You were right on point but i was just thinking if you meant the pastor on the issue at hand should hav quoted some other scriptures to balance the point he was driving at.
May the Almighty God bless u for that love piece of urs.And may we both not be found wanting when the trumpet shall sound. God bless us all.
God help us

[quot The problem is most Pastors don't know how to teach the word of God and balance it out with the appropriate other parts of the Bible.[/quote]From the pastor's teaching,it's better to abstain than struggle with moderation ! He said little sip today might lead to uncontrollable gush tomorrow. He said it is better to have an alter for God than to set up a bar in ur house ! He said wives who defend their alcoholic husbands isn't doing them any good !He said if you do not have an alter for God at home,convert ur 'bar room' to an altar for God ! He quoted proverb 23:33 regarding how the eyes of the drunk will behold strange women.He said drunkenness drives away the holy spirit from the fellow and the 'spirit of alcohol' take over.He said wen you get filled with the holy spirit then there will be no space for the other spirit(alcoholic influence).He said those who take alcohol will most likely find intimate sins attractive.This pastor used one or two quotes from the bible and he is speaking to Christians who at least will listen and not the world at large(some unbelievers) who does not even want to hear anyone mention God beside them.I do not expect this pastor to quote all the scripture in the bible just to dissuade people from getting drunk.Those who have ears let them hear ! Those who have eyes let them see and those who have mouth/tongue let them bridle their tongues for what comes out of it might defile us !
This pastor has never said alcohol in itself is sinful but drunkenness, despite the fact that he does not support anyone of his church members to be deceived or led astray by alcohol !After all,if i don't drink i can't get drunk !
May God help us all as Christians and save those yet to be saved !
God bless us

Goshen360: Question:
Will Wine or Alcohol be also part of what GOES INTO YOUR MOUTH and yet you are NOT considered defiled or uncleaned by Jesus Christ

Since what goes into us can't defile us,how come the bible said we shouldn't be gluttons ? We should have just been allowed to eat and eat and eat since what goes into a man can not defile him !
God help us to see the spirit behind the letters of the bible !
God help us

frosbel and 'pastor' kun,do you study the bible for the sake of having a relationship with God or do you read the bible just to attack churches and pastors ? If the later is the case,then it isn't Christianity but some other kind of religion ! You should allow the holy spirit to take charge of your lives and you both should deal with the things of God with subtlety ! Refrain from using insulting words on people even if you think they are gods of men ! May God help u both to see reasons why you should to heed to my advice !
God help us

frosbel: any one who has elevated himself to the position of GOD in the lives of men is at risk of eternal damnation.

Hi frosbel,how are you today ? Hope you slept well last night into this morning ! May the almighty God continue to keep you and bless you in Jesus name... Amen.
God help us

Encoredme: I wish more intending couples will keep to this more. It's difficult to do so in a day and age where there's too much celebration of sex and looseness, an overhyping of coolness...smh
Btw, what's d place of the female partner cooking for the dude during courtship? At least he should have a clue what are culinary skills are like.

Courtship without sex is not courtship !Both of them(courtship & sex) move hand in hand !
God help us

kajoula: Good write-up, but....Make dem know oooo,
If ur relationship doesn't lead to marriage,its not the end of the world.
Dating is not the only bussines a woman can/will do.........I don talk my own ooo

If ur courtship doesn't lead to marriage,it might be the end of the world-suicide
God help us

Ngenge: Ask God nd d married to advise u. No kiss,no hug 4 conscience sake

If you court,it takes the grace of God for you not to be cursed !
God help us

[quote author=huni_naija]Courtship is of the devil, resist, flee and let the devil be ashamed!

Say no to Courthship! I don talk my own oo [/quote]Courtship is one of the major causes of heart breaks,delayed marriages and the increasing rate of divorce !
God help us

Kirinwa: You should consider the background in which Op posted.We're talking from a Christian perspective.Stop deceiving yourself.It will be a miracle if what you posted doesn't end in heart break,fornication and disaster.

Thank you bro !
God help us

babazz: Pst. Chris Ojigbani and his relationship lectures! Oga please let's be real, most of these things are not applicable in real life situations (you don't write things on paper in a relationship, you write them in your heart). We hear stories of couples killing each other everyday @ slight provocation, so many cases of divorce, etc, all these happen because 'for the sake of marriage' people pretend to each other until they get into the marriage proper! When they achieve this, just time will tell and you will know the true color of your partner.

My advise: take your time to know your partner and your inlaws to be very well before marriage! Knowledge of your partner's culture and traditions is also very important (na africa we dey) Times have changed!

If u like court for 20yrs or know one thousand things about urselves before marriage,that is not what makes marriage !
God help us

24-Pray for discernment concerning your courtship and the potential for marriage !
Once prayer comes into it,i tell us we will no longer need to court before marriage rather we will court in marriage as we will continue to learn until death !
God help us