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Malam Usisky,

I am re-posting the one of my reply to you on another thread here, because I realize you are more interested in your thread, i.e. this one:

I’ll first of all upfront and describe to you how I felt after reading your reply: I really felt nauseated, imaging how on earth someone who claims himself a Muslim could have uttered—or in this care written, such a words. How dreadful? Please don’t feel offended but you are really, really misguided. Only Allah, the Exalted, can re-guide you to the right path. I’ll, inshaAllah, be putting you and other erroneous Muslims in my prayers.

That aside, I actually get a lot to say; but I as usual I’ll begin by giving you some background information of my—our, i.e. Ahl Sunna, general belief and view of Noble Qur’aan, which is diametrically contrary to what you have naively stated above. That I resort to directly quote from one famous book by Shykh Naseer Al’Aql entitled The General Precepts of Ahlus- Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah. He succinctly yet aptly mentioned the following:

1 - The Qur'aan is the Speech (kalaam) of Allaah, in both wording and meaning. It was sent down and is uncreated (ghayr makhlooq). From Allaah it originated and to Him shall it return. It is an inimitable miracle, indicative of the truthfulness of what the Prophet (SAW) was sent with. Its text and meanings are preserved from corruption until the Day of judgment.

2 - Allaah the Most High Speaks whatever He wills, when He wills and how He wills. The Speech of Allaah is real (haqeeqah), with letter (harf) and voice (sawt), but we do not know about the modality and how it is (kayfiyyah), nor do we debate about it or delve into it.

3 - The view that the Speech of Allaah is only the meaning of what Allaah spoke to himself, or that the Qur'aan is a narrative (hikaayah), or an expression ('ibaarah), or a metaphor (majaaz) of Allaah's Speech, or that it is an effluent outpouring (faydh) - or other views similar to these - are all misguidance and deviation and could sometimes amount to disbelief (kufr).

4 - Whoever denies anything of the Qur'aan, or claims that parts of it have been deleted, added, or corrupted, is an unbeliever.

5 - It is obligatory to explain the Qur'aan in accordance with the well-known methodology of the Salaf. It is not permissible to explain the Qur'aan by mere opinion, since this amounts to speaking about Allaah without due knowledge. Explaining the Qur'aan using esoteric interpretations (ta`weelaatul-baatiniyyah) and its like is actually a form of kufr.

These points, I very much hope, need no more elaboration, right?

We believe that it’s Sunnah, i.e. hadith or as it’s called in the noble Qur’aan Hikmah that explains it—the Qur’aan. We can so much evidently enough realize that as nearly all Islamic practices are taught how to be performed via authenticated ahadith. Below is an ice-berg verse concretizing my assertion:

﴿هُوَ الَّذِى بَعَثَ فِى الأُمِّيِّينَ رَسُولاً مِّنْهُمْ يَتْلُو عَلَيْهِمْ ءَايَـتِهِ وَيُزَكِّيهِمْ وَيُعَلِّمُهُمُ الْكِتَـبَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَإِن كَانُواْ مِن قَبْلُ لَفِى ضَلَلٍ مُّبِينٍ ﴾

“He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger from among themselves, reciting to them His Ayat, purifying them, and teaching them the Book [i.e., the Qur’aan] and the Hikmah[ (wisdom), i.e., Sunnah]. And verily, they had been before in manifest error.” (62:02).

I once again quote you another book by another great scholar, Sheikh Salman b. Fahd al-Oadah titled: The Prophetic Commentary of the Qur’ân:

Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) explained in his Sunnah everything of the Qur’ân
that needed to be explained. The question is: Does this mean that he explained all of the Qur’ân or only part of it?

Scholars have differed on this matter. Some, like al-Suyûtî, have expressed the opinion that he had to explain very little of the Qur’ân. Their opinion is based on the hadîth where `Â’ishah supposedly said: “The Prophet (peace be upon him) did not explain anything of the Qur’ân with his opinion save for a few verses.”21 However, this hadîth is unauthentic on account of its defective chain of transmission. One of its narrators is Ja`far al-Zubayrî, a weak narrator whose hadîth cannot be relied upon.

Other scholars claim that Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) explained the Qur’ân in its entirety. They mean that he explained all of the Qur’ân that could possibly need explanation, since there are verses of the Qur’ân that require no explanation at all.

Ibn `Abbâs said: “The explanation of the Qur’ân has four aspects to it. The first aspect comprises what is known by the Arabs by virtue of their language. When it is recited to the Arabs, they understand it. Then there are the explanations that no one is excused for not knowing. This includes the explanation of the verses related to Islamic legal injunctions and beliefs that people need to know. Then there are the explanations that are known only to scholars. These are subtle meanings that most people do not grasp. Then there are matters whose explanation is known only to Allah. These are the four aspects of the explanation of the Qur’ân.”

In short, Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) explained in his Sunnah everything of the Qur’ân that needed explaining. The Sunnah is, in essence, the commentary of the Qur’ân, and it explains the Qur’ân in four ways:

1-Verbal (textual) explanation of the Qur’ân, e.g. this contains huge expatiation. And it’s self-explanatory. . .as the name implies.

2-Prophetic statements derived from meanings found in the Qur’ân, e.g. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “A worshipper is closest to his Lord when he is prostrating.”

In the Qur’ân, there is a verse that indicates this meaning. Allah says: “

3-Explanation of the context in which particular verses were revealed, e.g. purposes of revelation.

4-Explanation of the Qur’ân by way of practical example, e.g. how to prayer, pilgrimage, fast, pay zakat, etc, etc, etc

I can go on and on, bros. But am stopping from here. Wish and hope this explains things to you.

Waiting for your reply. Thanks

May Allah answer your du'a. And ours as well.

Too bad.

Are we gonna make it?  

Salam, IbrahimB

Lodge Your Complaints Here to the Mod.

Nice posts. May Allah reward you, amin.

Mr. Usisky,

How are you doing? Still waiting for you on Lagosboy's OP. Thanks

Any religion with followers like the above poster (i.e. the_truth) is not worth following. Or at least needs to be appraised thoroughly.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=373392.msg5269028#msg5269028 date=1262886087]Where he copied it does not matter. what matters is if what he posted is true or false. If it's false, tell us why.[/quote][quote author=the_truth link=topic=373392.msg5273967#msg5273967 date=1262951188]The truth is that 99.9 % of the so called muslims including you don't know the Quran. Most of you just follow what your cleric says like cows.

You call Islam a religion of peace, why is peace so elusive where the muslims are ?.

In Nigeria alone, there are militants like Boko Haram, Maitasine, Kala Kolo etc. Why is the nigerian government not doing anything about them? Why are they condoling their actions ?

I will not be surprise that the rich muslims in the north are the ones sponsoring all these militants.

I know the Quran and the Hadiths more than you can ever imagine. I don't go to any anti Islamic websites.

By their fruit, we shall know them. A good tree bears good fruit and a bad tree bears bad fruit. You don't expect a bad tree to bear good fruit.

There is no point discussing with you any further, because no matter the proofs you are given, you will deny it. Islam thrives in deying facts and veracity.

In Saudi Arabia, the Saudi govt sponsor Wahabis while pretending to be against it.[/quote]I ask you both: where does it say, in the posts, that Farouk's action is Islamic?

[quote author=the_truth link=topic=20477.msg5299734#msg5299734 date=1263306368]of course, Islam thought him to blow himself up. Every muslim is commanded to carry out that atrocity in the name of Islam. If you are liberal Muslim, then you are a bad muslim. Every muslim is a satanic terrorist. Its part of their calling as muslims. So stop denying facts and veracity.[/quote]

toba:
But he was trained by moslems Al Qaeda members and as a good muslim he obliged them to destroy lives of innocent souls

Then let us have your proofs from that religion, or else we'll regard you as liers.

OK. Wish you all the best.

And to the OP: I kinda start feeling there is an untold story about this attack. Any way, hope everything will come out in the wash ASAP.

Abu Zola:
Usisky- am kind of confuse, did you say a  Prophet emerge after Prophet Muhammad, mind you even Prophet isa will emerge as a kalifa and not a Prophet. Plz elaborate

You must have missed a lot, Abuzola. Where were you when the poor guy emerged?

I just can't locate the post but he once told us that Prophet Muhammad, may Allah exalt his mention, was (and not is) the prophet of Allah. He's now dead, and Khalifa Rashad is this time's prophet. A'uzu billah.

toba:
Too many pains. We lost many good brains to the boko haram crises Last year

Where were you during the conflict?

How did you know there were "good brains" among them? Had they been alive what could they do to you or to the country; and positively?

[quote author=the_truth link=topic=372664.msg5299919#msg5299919 date=1263307966]Islam should be eradicated. It has not contributed anything to Nigeria. It has caused us so much pain.[/quote]Then you always say Muslims are intolerant. . .

jcross22:
LEAVE THEM THEIR ACTIONS SPEAK FOR THEM :
I=Indoctrination
S=Supremacism
L=Lies
A=Anti-Semitism
M=Murder

You had me smiling.

BUT javalove has summed-up everything above: no matter how bright the sun may shine, it can never make a blind man see.

@Uplawal,

No, Sis, you have to ask of your parents' consent. Any way, are they against it? I am just curious.

jcross22:
@the_seeker, VERY SIMPLE REMEMBER THE RE-BRANDING OF UTHMAN CALIPHATE OR CAN I SAY WHAT IS THE ROLE PLAYED BY UTHMAN CALIPHATE PLAYED IN ISLAMIC WORLD, THEN WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THE VERSES EATEN BY GOAT AND THE MASS DEATH OF THE TRUE ISLAMIC MUJAHEED WHO KNEW THE KORAN FROM THE HEART OVER 400 OF THEM WERE KILLED SO WHERE DID THEY FIND KORAN OF TODAY.

1- Rebranding? I'll really like to know more of that.

2- What are those verses eaten by goat? Produce them.

3- Where did you read that Qur'an memorizers were killed? Be sincere and tell the rest of the story.

sjeezy8:
hausas sound alike so i doubt its him. If it is why didnt talk to other news staions in Nigeria and not only hausa BBC.

Why are you that doubting?

Wa'alaika Salam,

Oh my God! I had written quite a long reply but the Network was interrupted, and the reply gone.

Any way, welcome aboard, manyus. Wish you'll enjoy every second of your stay here.

To the observation you made; as explained there, you are more than free to ask any meaningful question regarding any hadeeth posted here. Doin what you suggested sincerely speaking proves difficult.

May Allah guide us to the right path, amin.

You had me smiling, auwal. The fusses over Farouk's intended action begin to surface amazing, and to some extent senseless.

BTW, two days, where have you been?

LOL, alimat 2

My bank has some network probs, thus money can't be transfered. Till next time. lol

Thanks

You ALONE.

Hmm. . .

Your fate, you say?

@toba,

Don't you get answer to my question?

Can you say how, exactly? You don't know or I might help. . .

It sounds so much funny to me.

Why do you worry yourself that much about that blacklisting issue, toba?

@OP

YES

[quote author=Aloy`Emeka link=topic=377803.msg5272315#msg5272315 date=1262929445]We should fish out his likes in Northern Nigeria and expel them to their fatherland which are Chad and Niger republic.[/quote]Where is your fatherland, Emeka? Certainly if truly 9ja isn't their fatherland yours too must have other than 9ja.

toba:
Which spirit?

Is it of any concern to you? Wonder o!

toba:
Yes it does.When those clerics&islamic oriented pple like u doesnt campaign against terrorism&start to teach pple in Islam not to revenge but commit vengeance to God,then islam will breed more terrorists for Nigeria.Especially from d North(Boko Haram)

Do you really understand my question?

Let me paraphrase it: Is there any where in Islam where Farouk's exact action is supported? If there is educate me on that. Thanks

Hi, N2A

I will very much like to have this "riddle" solved, and by you:

A church and Christian newspaper in Malaysia are suing the government after it decreed that the word "Allah" can only be used by Muslims.

In the Malay language "Allah" is used to mean any god, and Christians say they have used the term for centuries.

Opponents of the ban say it is unconstitutional and unreasonable.

It is the latest in a series of religious rows in largely Muslim Malaysia, where minority groups claim their rights are being eroded.

A spokesman for the Herald, the newspaper of the Catholic Church in Malaysia, said a legal suit was filed after they received repeated official warnings that the newspaper could have its licence revoked if it continued to use the word.

"We are of the view that we have the right to use the word 'Allah'," said editor Rev Lawrence Andrew.

'Unlawful'

The Sabah Evangelical Church of Borneo has also taken legal action after a government ministry moved to ban the import of religious children's books containing the word.

In a statement given to Reuters news agency, the church said the translation of the bible in which the word Allah appears has been used by Christians since the earliest days of the church.

There has been no official government comment but parliamentary opposition leader Lim Kit Siang said the decision to ban the word for non-Muslims on security grounds was "unlawful".

[b]"The term 'Allah' was used to refer to God by Arabic-speaking Christians before Arabic-speaking Muslims existed," he said.

[/b]Religious issues are highly sensitive in Malaysia, which has a 60% Muslim population.

Religious freedom is guaranteed in the law but minority groups have accused the Muslim Malay majority of trying to increase the role of Islam in the country


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/asia-pacific/7163391.stm

Are they true or not? And what reason(s) can you back-up your response. Thanks

@Poster,

Churches seem to be more successful because there are many of them or what? The beauty of building (church) or its number; or plethora  of  followers of a religion, etc does not make that religion to be true. I actually see no connection, or anything from that "observation" that could shake someone's belief about his faith and start asking nearly silly questions like this one.

Stay calm and focussed; don't just be that succumbed. Its a pure bluff.

Please forgive me if I am harsh. You can enlighten me on the point I miss. Thanks

Salam,

Well, the best comment I get to is to make a clarion call to my Muslim brothers and sisters to heed to the OP content. Islam denounces any sort of Farouk's behavior. It's only some misguided Muslims who wrongly think that has a place in Islam. In really it gets none.

May Allah, the Exalted, guide us to the right path, amin.